@awesomerobot: Twas a joke about hyperbole.

Erwin

@tincow: Apparently you didn't see my buddy's dad (non-gamer) try to play Halo 3. It was like watching a retarded chicken trying to hump a door knob.

He went out and bought a Wii. Bowling suits him just fine.

Smadubaku

Eh, saying casual games are less complex is almost a delusion. I'm not sure I'd say Halo 3 is more complex than Peggle, for example. :)

Of course large sweeping RPGs and complex sim/strategy games like Civilization 3/4 are more complex than Peggle...but are most FPS/Hardcore-Action games? Not really as far as I can tell. Enemies in most FPS games, for example, aren't that much different than Orange Pegs.

tincow

@Shteve: Casual vs. Hardcore. The war continues. One of the problems with this "war" is that the community itself has no solid go to definition.

While yours deals with the amount of time played my personal definitions have to do with how knowledgeable one is with gaming. I think what separates "casuals" and "hardcores" is their input and care of the gaming community in general.

Example: I knew a bunch of dumb jocks and stupid stoners that did nothing but play Halo. They put in hours and hours of Halo time but I'll always refer to them as casual gamers. They make no active participation in the community or care about things like net neutrality or have any kind of technological knowledge or interest for that matter.

Note: I'm not generalizing jocks or stoners. I used adjectives to describe them, not to define them. I know there are jocks that are tech savvy and I loves me some reefer any day.

AsWater

@Erwin: twas a joke about the screenshot spoiling the ending.

awesomerobot

@awesomerobot: 12 hours? Are you playing with 10 decks or what?

Erwin

Popcap needs to do a Peggle remake - re-envisioned as an FPS. Casual games are like gateway drugs, I hope. Maybe then my girlfriend will play Halo...

rkr215

This casual gamer mislabeling pisses me off. Read Jim Sterling's article on Dtoid, it mirrors my sentiment exactly:

[www.destructoid.com]

redgopher

@ThisCharmingMan: Casual, hardcore, bathroom........

MJDeviant

I, for one, notion that we dissolve these casual/hardcore boundaries. There are people that play different kinds of games on a regular or irregular basis. I shudder to think of all the new sub genres of gamers 10 years from now, when Nintendo comes up with some new original idea that has grandparents and toddlers gaming at the same time.

ThisCharmingMan

Casual gamers play casual games because they don't have any not-casual games to play, sure, my mom has solitair on her laptop, She doesn't exactly have a copy of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. loaded on there, maybe if you randomly installed games onto a casual gamers computer, they might be like, hey.. maybe i should try this. (i'm not telling you to load stalker onto your moms laptop, BAD IDEA)

K-Squad! (Badass Edition)

@Witzbold: At first it was just beating it. Then it was beating my times. Next it's beating babies and throwing sticks in the spokes of motorcycles on the highway.......

MJDeviant

One awesome thing about casual gamers is their lack of fanboyism.

Roto13

I can hear it now; Child walks into school with gun and shoots down 11 classmates - dismembers body into Zuma shapes.

Jack Thompson links child killing and violence to grotesque shapes used in casual gaming.

SchoolBusDriver

Thanks for spoiling solitaire for me, jerk - I was already 12 hours in!

awesomerobot

People who can play and beat minesweeper will always scare me 100 times more than folks who think its funny to make heads aesplode in FPSes.

Witzbold

By the way, my minesweeper scores are 4 secs (luck), 48 secs, and 147 secs.

MJDeviant

Minesweeper dude, minesweeper. What better game to play while you wait for renders or your boss walks out of the room for a sec.

MJDeviant

@smitty1123:

Pretty interesting description, I kinda get pissed when people try to debate about a game being "hardcore" or "casual" because my definition tends more in the amount of time you spend playing games, not the type of games you play !

Shteve

That's populace the noun, rather than populous the adjective, but I will accept it as subconscious Peter Molyneux reference.

humorbot

I can totally agree with this. I mean, casual always leads to more extreme doesn't it? It's that way with almost anything.

For instance, I have a friend I just met a college this year and he had a PS2 and played all the basic stuff. However, one day he saw me playing Chrono Trigger on my Super Nintendo and wanted to try it. So I got him an emulator and the rom and guess what? He beat it before I did! Same kind of story with my girlfriend who started out on Animal Crossing, but now plays Zelda and has logged over 100 hours on Final Fantasy Tactics.

jackal27

Solitare pwns COD4 anyday.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

I usually play "Hardcore" games... but lately I have realized I play so much Lumines casually that it may be more hours than I've put into the majority of my console games.

Lumines 2 I got used for $13AUD and it's proved a sound investment.

Astrofox

Gamer: one who plays games
Casual: irregular; occasional
Casual gamer: one who irregularly or occasionally plays games

So, how is it surprising that the game type doesn't matter or that people who only do something occasionally would want to do it for free?

smitty1123

Im can be both casual and hardcore i own many types of games but i rather be a hardcore, Zelda and FF and now Xenogears fan ;)

DarkLuigi

I could watch those bouncing cards forever... or at least until I get bored.

Erwin

Meh. I play about 20-30 hrs of games a week (8-10 hrs on weekends) and I consider myself a casual gamer. I only play the games that interest me.

Black_Ops_19

@gusiskirby: Solitaire 2 : Spades of War?

Astrofox

i could play solitare for hours, if i didn't have other things to do

thejakeman: probably disagrees with you

Casual gamers need to try something a little more hardcore.

gusiskirby