
New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has called it quits. As you may recall, the long-time critic of Grand Theft Auto who once singled-out the game's use of prostitution was recently
singled-out for his own use of prostitution. In a two-minute speech delivered at his office after what must have been an exciting motorcade ride from his home, the Governor has thrown in the towel, explaining that everyone must take responsibility for their conduct. I'm wondering if that includes children negatively influenced by violent video games? Right, let's not go crazy now.
Eliot, We Hardly Spitz Ye: The 2-Minute Resignation [Gawker]
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freespeech
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
meh, in a couple of weeks he'll be forgotten and we'll be on to the next big news story, uhhmmm, GTA IV slammed for real life situations!!!!!!!! You know where I'm going with this.....
freespeech
torched
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Looks like I was right!
[www.iht.com]
torched
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
no woman is worth $5K an hour.
HurricaneDave
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Oh, the irony.
But anyways, did you see the hooker he was banging?
Totally worth it. :P
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
Adzz
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Of topic much?
Adzz
TheRunningboard7
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I think most of us are missing the real issue: His wife is pretty hot. I cannot fathom the man who would cheat on that lady.
TheRunningboard7
Jesse in Japan
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
The prostitutes in GTA certainly don't cost 4,300 dollars.
Jesse in Japan
Zunnoab
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
This isn't a partisan issue this guy is a nutcase.
Zunnoab
bornonce
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Now you know why he objected to GTA, in which you can kill hookers.
Although I am not sure that you can categorize a $3000 an hour call-girl as a common street hooker. I personally have no problems with his infidelity, which is a private matter between him and his wife, but he willingly and knowingly violated both State and Federal statues, which are impeachable offenses. He is one on a long line of hypocrites who stand for moral behavior and family values, and then tries to covertly cover his tracks. I have no sympathy for him, , and hope that he is treated just like the "johns" that he went out of his way to persecute.
bornonce
krunkjuice
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: It's hard to take someone who is willing to sit there next to her cheating husband seriously like she's not there for political reasons. If she were an actual "woman with strength and integrity' she wouldn't be standing behind him looking stupid.
krunkjuice
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: I suppose one last bit before I head out of work. Skadden is not just another law firm. They are the largest and most profitable law firm in the world, and being one of the top lawyers in their M&A department is no small feat--they pretty much invented the practice. If she was really power/status hungry, all she had to do was stick around for a few more years and make partner--then she could have schmoozed as much as she wanted to with politicians, corporate heads, and "movers and shakers". It's a tangential point, but one that suggests that she might have had other motives.
Like I said--a little research goes much farther than projecting your own assumptions and moral codes on to a total stranger.
JustThisGuy
okenny :)
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Perfect lesson to children as to why they should stand for nothing.... because when you stand for something and fail, you will be destroyed. If you stand for nothing and fail, you will be cheered on for overcoming adversity and turning your life around. Case in point: Brittney Spears can clean up at any time now and be seen as a courageous person who survived drugs and alcohol.
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I'm not supporting what this guy did, I'm just calling to attention how evil you all are :D
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I myself am a pervert fanboy M$ whore so praise me tomorrow because I plan to fail tonight ;)
okenny :)
Neo-Senku
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Trowble (XBL/PSN):
Truer words were never spoken. I mean Monica Lewinski Got famous for suckin off the president. In an election year where people were more focused on things involving politicians than usual, she'll be remember especially if they don't let Spitzer off the hook.
Neo-Senku
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@torched: Funny this is how she's going to start her career. It seems to be all the rage now. All it takes is a little bit o' controversy nowadays. I wonder if this will help or hurt her music career and/or lifestyle.
I need to get into some media sparked controversy. ASAP.
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
torched
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Neo-Senku: 5'5" 105lbs. Quite a frame if you ask me. No doubt she will be picked up by playboy in 5...4...3...2...
torched
Neo-Senku
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@torched:
At least It was a pretty looking hooker, don't know if I'd pay 4000+ for her.
Neo-Senku
torched
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
The hooker's pictures: [www.thesmokinggun.com]
Her myspace page:
[www.myspace.com]
torched
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Ha! I just saw on the news Spitzer spent up to $80 thousand and to top that off he was having unprotected sex! Also, the name of the prostitution company is Emperors Club VIP. Charges haven't been pressed against him yet, but there are people saying losing his job is bad enough. I say lock him up and take away the key. It's illegal here in New York and no one should be able to go above the law.
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: you were so busy looking at subtexts you ignored the actual text.
Again and for the last time, I said exactly what I mean. Mrs. Spitzer and her zeal for her husband to hang on to power show me where her head/heart is at, and that is power. She was a great lawyer at some law firm whoopie, but she was not fameous. She was not a socialite, she wasn't in bed with the movers and shakers of the city of NY, the state of NY, and politicians in DC. Staying with Spitzer brings her that, and since it has come out that she was desparately trying to get him to hold off on resigning his position, its doesn't take much to conclude she only wants him because of the status he can bring her. That would apply to a man if the situation was reversed as well.
HurricaneDave
gcZanmato
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I can't help but find this quite humorous. After all of the crap politicians give us, something like this happens. I hate to say it but I hope it happens again to some of the other nay-sayers.
gcZanmato
GodzillaVsJapan
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Self ownage at its finest
GodzillaVsJapan
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Rioracer916: Oy, these comments get me riled up.
No, she's smart because she was one of the highest-paid lawyers at a white-shoe firm. She's skilled because she obtained this position through her own hard work.
The two met while Spitzer was still in law school, several years before his first political assignment under the Manhattan DA. While her current actions are debatable, she certainly did not engage in a "political" marriage, and--because of the time frame--one could reasonably argue that she did not marry Spitzer purely to attain power/status.
Is this so hard to believe? Yes folks, a woman can succeed on her own, and sometimes a successful woman marries for reasons other than power! GASP! Yes, I know. The world is a topsy-turvy place.
Christ.
JustThisGuy
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: All right: last one, because--as a student of semiotics--I can't let this one particular point go unchallenged. To wit: there's subtext to everything. That's why it's subtext. I'm not going to delve into the mechanics behind connotative subjectivity, but it's not beyond the bounds of reason to state that making assumptions about Mrs. Spitzer translates into making assumptions about gender, especially when certain facts dictate otherwise.
To put it more clearly: a few folks (I'm willing to bet all male) wrote that she might be standing by her husband for reasons of finance and/or status, when she certainly does not need to. This isn't hidden knowledge; a real simple google search would have revealed that she had a very successful career as a lawyer at a white-shoe firm. It could be hypothesized that they jumped to their respective conclusions because she's a woman, and the thought that she might be completely self-sufficient--and thus not reliant on her husband for support--never entered their minds.
Your "social-climber" accusation has a bit of sexism to it as well, as you're implying (whether intentionally or not) that there can be no other reason--when in fact, there are many possible reasons. Even if her end-goal is nothing more than the accumulation of "status" (a contentious word with no clear definition), you're implying that the only way she can attain it is through marriage instead of through her own initiative.
You do not define humanity--what you would necessarily do in one situation does not mean anyone else would. Just because she's not acting in the way you would act does not automatically mean that she's a power-hungry bint--you're projecting your own assumptions onto a person you don't know, and labeling them to fit your particular criteria for behavior. People are complex, and they take inexplicable actions during times of crisis. That said, I should state that your viewpoint might have more weight with me if you were a career-minded woman.
In any case, if you really feel like hashing out the finer points of subtext and meaning, feel free to leave me a PM. I'm done here; as I said earlier, video game blog, politics, lion-tamer, elephant, tutu, foolishness, etc. etc. And I do feel quite foolish at the moment.
JustThisGuy
Rioracer916
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy:
Obviously she had the skills to do well on her own. She married that man, didn't she?
She's smart because she knows what she wants and knows how to get it. It's too bad their "political" marriage fell apart like a house of cards.
Sometimes it's smart to ride the coat tails of those who are on the up and up. That's life my friend.
Rioracer916
Strangelove
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Oh, Arturo, Prince of Irony ...
Strangelove
Rioracer916
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave:
I...have to...agree.
Ulitmately it was the U.S. that waged war with Iraq. The other countries that tagged along, such as the U.K. did not have a gun to their head, they went willingly. So the only people who truly have a right to be angry are the AMERICANS who were against the war from day one (like me) or the ones who were naive enough to genuinely be deceived by the administration's lies. We're the ones who will have to spend the next lifetime at a minimum paying for this debacle.
That said, Spitzer is disgusting human being for spending tax payer money on the same filth he vowed to fight against tooth and nail. The personal shame of letting down your family is a hard pill to take. But I think his wife had some idea that he wasn't exactly on the straight and narrow. I think she's more upset that their family is being publically humiliated and the gravy train is drying up. You'd be surprised how many marriages are purely "political" in this country.
I thought we elected public servants in this country, not warlords.
Rioracer916
Lightthrower
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Bwahaha he can't even say that without reading from a piece of paper, what a tool.
Lightthrower
jimbone
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: I completely agree! No woman ever needs to be reliant on a man. In my world, it's all about partnership. I rely on my wife sometimes and for some things - she does the same with me.
Nice use of language BTW. Excellent prose my good man!
jimbone
Korbei
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I wonder how many GTA players in the world actually condone prostitution let alone partake in it...
Korbei
That Girl Hates You
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I love Hippocrates...
That Girl Hates You
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy:
There was no subtext to anything that was said about Mrs. Spitzer. Only you took it to that level. I can only think you are overly sensitive, if you think people talking about Mrs. Spitzer translate into talking about a whole gender.
HurricaneDave
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@jimbone: Your point is taken, and I should settle down.
However, I would like to point out that my vitriolic little screed was not strictly about Mrs. Spitzer; it's about women in general, and the assumption that a woman would continue to stand by her husband for strictly mercenary reasons. I took great offense that the two original posters would assume as such, when a little research would reveal that Mrs. Spitzer certainly does not need her husband's monetary support. Just because she's a woman doesn't mean that she's powerless and reliant on her "man," as I'm sure you'd agree.
Once again, your point is valid and heeded. I just get a little touchy when gender issues--even when they are, at best, subtextual implications--pop up.
JustThisGuy
stickfodder
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
With him leaving that means this means New York Will have its first black governor ever
stickfodder
Nihon no Purin
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
guys, guys. can't we all just enjoy this moment of schadenfreude in harmony?
Nihon no Purin
battra92
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: Bats, I'm not taking umbrage at the fact that you don't feel sorry for her. I'm offended because you entertained the thought that she might be purely motivated by financial matters, when some simple reseasrch would reveal that she really has no reason to be. Not all women are gold-diggers, you know.
Oh, okay. I misread your reply. No, I never thought she was going to end up in the poor house and I have no doubt she could support herself and kids just fine. I guess I was more thinking along the lines of the social title and what not. I mean, I really have no idea what kind of person she is but then no one here really does.
But anyway, I heard this really good game came out for the Wii this week so I'm gonna go play that and let the Spitzers and the Feds work out their problems.
battra92
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: I don't have a low opinon of women, I have a low opinion of her. It really doesn't matter if she was successful in business, that doesn't move her up to the highest social circles, a lot of people are rich in NYC. But she was rich married to the Atty. Gen of NY, who was on a fast track to become governor and was even talked about as a future presidential candidate. You can't buy status, but you sure can marry it, and her actions show that she is a social climber.
If my wife cheated on me with a giggolo and I found out I would be pissed off and distance myself from her. If my wife cheated on me with a giggolo and I found out that she did it with no protection I would be livid and would not start the divorce proceedings. It has nothing to do with being a woman, its about what type of person you are.
@jayntampa:
The US is a world power but we are not going to attack another country because they will not fight a war with us and everyone knows that. Again how does the US going to Iraq and Afghanistan effect citizens outside of those countries?
As for Iraqis and their happiness,
[www.timesonline.co.uk] the reports I read say differently
Regarding Spitzer, everything that man did was motivated to increase his political standing at all cost and if that happend to help people, sometimes it did for the most part it didn't, so be it.
HurricaneDave
Spoony Bard
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@jayntampa: Agreed. There's always 2 ways of looking at it.
While I am a proponent of "your personal life is your personal life", if that meshes with policy you've enacted, then it doesn't fly.
Spoony Bard
jimbone
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: Settle down Beavis.
As chivalrous as your personal defense of Mrs. Spitzer is, there is absolutely no need to try and stifle commentary by telling people to STFU. They can vent their opinion, speculation, or theory if they want - and you can post your rebuttal to it.
Anyone who knows or wants to research it can find out that Spitzers wife is smart as a whip and has been professionally successful. Whether she knew her husband was a scumbag people can debate over the coming weeks. But this is the interwebs, and people are allowed to wonder what the hell she is doing standing by someone who just delivered to her the ultimate embarrassment.
In my opinion - which BTW you can't silence - I think YOU are being a bit of a jackass. No one needs to belittle Mrs. Spitzer. In my eyes, and the eyes of many other people, she's doing a hell of a job belittling herself by standing next to and supporting her douche husband.
And if people want to comment on it, they can. And if you want to defend her, that's great too. At the end of the day it helps distract us from work and makes kotaku some money.
Of course not of this changes the fact that Elliot is a P. Ness and this couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I hope they prosecute him.
jimbone
boopadoo
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I feel a little bad for the guy. While other politicians do similar (or worse) offenses than this, Spitzer was caught in an ironic situation which always results in the immediate black hole, while the others are free to continue their...mistakes.
You'd hope everyone in power would step down when they use poor judgement, ironic or not, so his action is somewhat refreshing.
He's still a douchebag.
boopadoo
jayntampa
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: You're really not well informed, are you? Why do countries cry about the actions we take ... how about, because our actions directly influence the whole planet -- yeah, that's what happens when you're the remaining super-power. When our economy screws up, people all around the world suffer ... when we invade a country, people suffer.
By the way, before you make ridiculous statements like, "why don't you ask the Iraqis who were living there when Saddaam was in power if it is a better place to live now that the US is there" -- maybe you should ask an Iraqi. Not surpsingly, people have -- they say it is WORSE with the US forces there: [www.angus-reid.com] - while other polls have showed other results, none have ever showed a majority (50%+) feeling that life is now better in Iraq.
Spitzer did some awesome stuff to protect people that don't have the power or resources to protect themselves. That's laudable.
However, he's also a hypocrite, which is deplorable.
jayntampa
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@battra92: @HurricaneDave: Neither of you are feminists, are you? And I'm getting the feeling that both of you like to partition folks into neat little groups that you can categorize and sub-categorize for easy reference.
Bats, I'm not taking umbrage at the fact that you don't feel sorry for her. I'm offended because you entertained the thought that she might be purely motivated by financial matters, when some simple reseasrch would reveal that she really has no reason to be. Not all women are gold-diggers, you know.
And, well, Dave: you're just a jackass with piss-poor grammar and a bad case of tunnel vision. There are a myriad of reasons why she might push her husband to stay in office, but "social climbing" is low on the totem pole, as she has the skill and ability to do quite well on her own. Your low opinion on women is horrifying.
JustThisGuy
battra92
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: I don't feel sorry for her and that's not a crime. If I were in her shoes I'd either leave or if I wanted to save the marriage I'd want to get out of the public eye as quickly and quietly as possible. I would not be pushing for hist staying in office as many reports say she was.
battra92
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@JustThisGuy: What kind of women who after finding out her husband has been cheating on her for 10 years, having unprotected sex with prostitudes, would tell there husband don't resign yet, we might still be able to hold on to the office? The answer is easy, a woman who married to socially climb, that is who.
HurricaneDave
ajay42
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
oye ^^^ "you're"
ajay42
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: You really should care what he has read, because he's on point. He's not implying that suicide bombers are not "radical Islamists"; he's saying that the radical Islam agenda is primarily motivated by political concerns, and not by some deep-rooted and inexplicable hatred of Western values. The reading he mentions supports that view (which should be rather obvious, by and by), as folks like Khomeini are directly responsible for propagating and perpetuating current extreme Islamic philosophies.
That said, we're discussing politics on a video game blog. It's a bit like a lion-tamer trying to put a tutu on an elephant--everyone involved looks rather foolish (and yes, I'm including myself). Strictly speaking, I'm a little surprised that the powers-that-be at KHQ decided to post this particular bit of news; its relevance is tangential at best, and just plain scandal-mongering at worst.
JustThisGuy
ajay42
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@BSAKat: That's pretty inflammatory. I went to public school!
@HurricaneDave: "I really do not care what you have read. I did not insult all of Islam, but to deny that most suicide bombers are not radical islamist would be to deny that the sky is blue."
LOL. Show me where I or anyone else said that. Its the question of what motivates radical Islamism. But I get it your not big on reading, the outside world or enforcing the law on the wealthy. Got it.
ajay42
RPGr
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: Your just spouting crap now. Other countries are doing something as well. They are paying tax dollars for aid, others donate troops.
History has shown when you fight a war, no matter how weak the opposition or strong your own troops are, you don't fight on two fronts at the same time if it can be avoided!
Don't say it does not affect the world. US policy does affect everyone else especially a "pre-emptive" war.
RPGr
BSAKat
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@ajay42:
I'm guessing Hurricane Dave went to public school. His grammar is terrible!
(How's that for inflammatory?)
BSAKat
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@battra92: @jackal888: Please don't belittle Mrs. Silda Spitzer by implying she is nothing more than a mercenary. She's an intensely intelligent woman who most likely made more money in a single year during her time at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom than either of you would ever see during your lifetime.
When her husband decided to pursue politics, she quit a very lucrative career as counsel for Chase Manhattan's interational legal group to spend more time with her children and her various philanthropic endeavors. To be frank, money is the last thing she needs to worry about, as she is quite capable of securing her own income; in fact, I'd be willing to bet that she would have made more money than her husband if she decided to continue her job.
Simply (and perhaps bluntly) put: STFU and don't talk about shit you know nothing about, jackasses.
JustThisGuy
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Dude27: Again unless you live in Iraq or Afghanistan, you did not have to do anything. You are all soverign nations, so against don't blame your country's actions on the US, man up and demand from your own government instead of taking the easy way out.
Also quit with the conspiracy theory crap of war for oil when it was not about oil. Its getting tired as the Bush lied people died crap. Come with some solid stuff. Where is your proof that the war is about oil. I have proof that other countries didn't want to do anything about Iraq because of oil.
Also Bush isn't a mess, your own leadership is, stop electing people to be your nation's leader if they can't lead.
@ajay42: I really do not care what you have read. I did not insult all of Islam, but to deny that most suicide bombers are not radical islamist would be to deny that the sky is blue.
HurricaneDave
Ginetta
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
.....and by his 'campaigning for justice' against big businesses, he absolutely destroyed many people's retirement funds when the stocks of their respective employers flat-lined flat lined because of ALLEGED actions by one or two employees. This guy deserves what he gets. He strong-armed settlements with the threat of corporate indictments, which would kill a company, even if it were to win in court. I hope he gets no leniency. Sweep the leg Johnny, no mercy.
Ginetta
ajay42
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
"As for why there are suicide bombers, it probably has something to do with radical Islam hating all Western culture, not just America."
I'm guessing I'm probably one of the only posters on here who has read Khomeini, Shariati, etc. in the original so I'll just go ahead and point out that you're just wrong on this front. Islamist actions and concerns have always been primarily politically motivated.
Ummm... ok. There doesn't seem to be a lot of point in continuing this. Maybe I can turn it back into a videogames discussion. I'm guessing HurricaneDave is a 360 owner...
;)
ajay42
battra92
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd:I really wanna know...
... why is his wife still standing next to him?
Well news has come out that his wife was the one pleading with him NOT to quit. Der Wille zur Macht I suppose, either that or she's thinking financial matters.
A lot of people are speculating that she may have known and accepted or approved of it and was the look was more of "I can't believe this has gotten out." or even the thought of court battles, lawsuits, loss of income and loss of living at their standard of living, anything.
Elliot may even be in the striped suits at some point so there's that to consider.
Another theory is she may have been doing it so that their kids don't hate their father. I guess we'll never know.
battra92
Dude27
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave:
You are right, I'm not american... BUT my wife and friends are. And about the laius about "mind your own business, stranger", fact is that UNFORTUNATELY for all the other nations, US policy DO have world consequencies, so YES, I feel concerned when your great morron in chief and his mafia decide that they want all the global ressources for themselves and launch bloody wars on big lies with the only goal to enrich themselves on the back of all the american people and consequantly on US, the rest of the world.
When will you clean your own mess and remove this shame from power?
Dude27
torvalds
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: Seriously, thank you for speaking up. I share the same thoughts as you on this.
torvalds
Strider-No.9
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I couldn't care less if he had hookers for $4200 an hour, the fact that he is married makes it all very wrong.
Strider-No.9
SSJPabs
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
This was politically motivated. Spitzer did wrong stuff, and should properly resign, but they were digging for dirt because he's a Dem.
SSJPabs
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@ajay42: Most people in NY are crazy liberals who associate successful businesses and corporations with evil. Tell me what was just about his taking on AIG with outdated laws made before the establishment of the SEC? How about threating people who spoke in the press about him that he would come after them. How about using his power to attack political opposition. The majority of Spitzer's actions were not "For the People" as the papers loved to say, it was for himself.
as for others caring or getting glee about the US, so what. I don't give a damn how they feel about the US most non-liberals and I hate america americans don't care how others feel about the actions our country takes that does not affect them. So why do foreigners always want to chime in and tell us how they feel about what we are doing, it does not affect you. If you don't like your country following the US lead, get mad at your own damn government and elect leaders who won't blindly follow the US. Take responsibility for you own nation.
As for why there are suicide bombers, it probably has something to do with radical Islam hating all Western culture, not just America.
@pandasonic: What does the US owning Iraq have to do with the tea in China? I already stated my cases on the issue. You don't see Americans always crying about some randome European head of state and crying about their actions, we have our own government and we take action to remedy problems we don't like. So why do foreigners always bitch and cry about the actions we take. Seriously. As for us getting involved in the Iraq, why don't you ask the Iraqis who were living there when Saddaam was in power if it is a better place to live now that the US is there. Why don't you ask the Afghanis if they are happy with their lives now compared to how it was when the Taliban was in power.
HurricaneDave
meltyman
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Dude27:
but dont u know, its US politics, sex = very very bad, anything else = depends on who you are. hell, look at whats happening in Detroit with their mayor
meltyman
meltyman
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@majortom1981:
This is probably silly but the new governor would have represented the holy trifecta of politics if he had been a woman. Because then, ny state would have a minority female disabled governor and you dont see that every day
and RE: Spitzer. He ruined the companies that were breaking the law, and their employees got caught in the crossfire, what else was he supposed to do, let the companies still break the law because it would someone's feelings?
meltyman
relic1980
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Dude27: This American-born person agrees with this message.
relic1980
Zanch
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Hah, serves that cocksucker right. I love how he campaigned so strongly about prostitution and got caught soliciting it. I think his wife oughtta divorce him and take all she can.
Zanch
Jasper_
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
A few years back, the NJ governor, McGreevey, resigned because he cheated on his wife with a man!
Jasper_
doubtful
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd:
I've always wondered this same thing, too, but we certainly don't know the dynamics of their relationship. Perhaps she's known all along.
It does seem like there is a manual out there though, like "Handbook for the Recently Cheated On: Politician's Wife Edition," and they always follow it step-by-step.
Just once, I want to see one of them lose it on camera and beat the living crap out of the cheater.
doubtful
pandasonic
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: The part where you state Spitzer had it coming is something I agree with you. The part where you told Dude27 to go shove it, I don't. While he may be a foreigner it still pretty much concerns him. Last time I checked, the US didn't own Iraq prior to the war. Also, the US is part of OUR world so everyone can and should be f*cking concerned, especially since the US likes to get involved in everyone else's "problems" (which it usually makes worse).
pandasonic
ajay42
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@zombiefrank: "You sound like some generic border guard from a bad sci-fi movie."
Ha! Exaclty. Or even from good ones: I think we should make school children watch Starship Troopers and Brazil so they can learn to seperate jingoism and commercialism from reason.
ajay42
ajay42
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave: "Spitzer used his authority to ruin the lives of countless people to become governor of the state."
And thats why he got a 70% landslide... Most New Yorkers (in fact, the VAST majority) were more than happy to finally see someone take on Wall Street after years of believing it was above the law. My only regret is that the guy had to go and be a jack ass and fuck himself over right and proper. Yeah, he broke the law, he has to go, it doesn't make the GREAT work he did fighting coporate corruption and state corruption and special interest influence any less important. Here's hoping Patterson can pick up the pieces well, from what I've read he seems like a decent guy.
Also: "Second, the war on Iraq really does not involve you. The US launched our own offensive and we made no other country join."
You get that this is the precise attitude that young people around the world are willing to blow themselves up to dethrone us right? Just like you are gleefully taking in this Spitzer fiasco (and yeah, I got to smile a bit at the GTA hypocrisy as well) others get pretty giddy about taking the big bad war-launching, resource hungry USA down a notch. It might due us all some good to take those stupid "foreigners" a bit more seriously.
ajay42
ErskinPig
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
He must have played the game just to be sure that he knew what he was talking about. At that point, of course, it was too late - he had been corrupted. The poor, poor man. :(
ErskinPig
zombiefrank
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@HurricaneDave:
Dude27 is entitled to his opinion.
"Don't talk about things you know nothing about foreigner".
You sound like some generic border guard from a bad sci-fi movie.
So Spitzer may have done some wrong to make it into office, but that is politics. Too bad for Joe Bruno if that is who you are talking about, because you are rather vague in who he has screwed over.
"Aside from that he hired multiple prostituted and to top it off engaged in unprotected sex with them, while transporting them across state lines"
He is talented if he was able to have sex while transporting multiple prostitutes across state line.
So what if he had unprotected sex,unfortunately that is his business. I do agree however, that he broke federal trafficking laws by hiring said prostitutes and that is why he should be penalized.
But back to Dude27, yeah our current president is full of the Shits.
zombiefrank
dv8godd
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@zoesch: Maybe I'm just taking it a different way.
If it was her husband's one-time fall to temptation, that would be standing by her family.
But when I look at it, I see a guy who over recent years has spent more on prostitutes than most of his constituents make in those several years. If it were me, I'd be supporting the "rest" of my family by putting his shit on the sidewalk outside the house and setting a better example for my three teenage daughters to not let the same thing happen to them.
But, that's just me. ;)
dv8godd
tslothrop
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Spoony Bard: Gotcha.
I'm a Larry David fan, thought I'd missed something!
tslothrop
brooza
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Maybe he played GTA and it corrupted him...
brooza
Fulgurator
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Sniper_Zegai:
Ha ha ha ha!
Oh, Wait...:
Fulgurator
Sniper_Zegai
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Spitz or Swallows?
Sniper_Zegai
lifeinthefridge
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Dude27:
I whole heartedly agree
lifeinthefridge
zombiefrank
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
oh no he was against GTA.....Im just upset that he had potential to be a great democratic state leader and instead he destroyed himself. How this ties into a video game blog is pretty trivial but regardless it is still dissapointing to us New Yorkers.
zombiefrank
darktorns
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
i mean we all know politicians are all liars and hypocrite. Just like the meaning of politicians = blood suckers, they only tell you what you want to hear.
Now tell me if GTA made him go get some prostitutes
darktorns
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Dude27: Don't talk about things you know nothing about foreigner.
Spitzer used his authority to ruin the lives of countless people to become governor of the state. He used his power to threaten people for favors, punish those who publicly spoke against him, and to put his friends in jobs.
Aside from that he hired multiple prostituted and to top it off engaged in unprotected sex with them, while transporting them across state lines. Now news comes out of the man probably having illegal campaign financing, not to mention more charges that should come out because of this. He is resigning because he is a crook and a public downfall of this magnitude could not happen to a more deserving person.
Second, the war on Iraq really does not involve you. The US launched our own offensive and we made no other country join. Now I take it you are not an American, so Bush owes nothing to you. Blame your own country's government if you feel there was a screw up, take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming America.
HurricaneDave
kw4k
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@hondo: maximum risky!
on topic: maximum risky!
kw4k
Typo Positive
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@majortom1981: And yes, David Paterson is a great man, from what I know, I'm interested to see what he will do as Governor.
@hondo: She's wearing a bikini. I checked it for you.
Typo Positive
zoesch
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd: Normally it goes to show that she is supportive of her family, of her fallen man which eventually will land him/her a few decent votes if they decide to run.
Most likely backstage he is berating the hell out of the little prick.
zoesch
Bernard McGraw
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Teehee.
Bernard McGraw
Dude27
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
hypocrisy at its apogee....
This guy quit because he got a blow job (and because he did what he said was wrong to do)... so what, big deal...
In the meantime, you have this guy who is president of the USA who lied to the american people and to the world with a fake report to launch an illegal war and who have now more blood in his hand than a bunch of cruel dictators (4000 GI and 600 000 iraquis without even counting the casualties in Afghanistan)... Do this guy resigned? NOOOOOOOO, the greedy bloody bastard stays in power even with less than 20% of popularity and a disastrous financial crisis to come when he will quit his office.
See my point... no? so go get some big glasses.
Dude27
Spoony Bard
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@hondo: No one's nekkid.
Spoony Bard
Spoony Bard
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@tslothrop: I am a dumbass. Yes, I meant Larry Craig. WHOOPS!
@Typo Positive: You had me rolling on the floor. I LOVE CYE.
Spoony Bard
EvoAnubis
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I'm shocked that he didn't blame his own transgressions on GTA.
EvoAnubis
Tull
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
So he got caught with his pants down. Hell, Bubba Clinton beat him by a chubby chick easy. If he wasn't so against GTA or violent games I think most people here would be on his side.
Tull
Typo Positive
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@majortom1981: "The first legally bling Govenor in the US..."
Bling is illegal? Umm, I have to go change.
Typo of the Week!
Typo Positive
bebop4one
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
He couldn't man up and admit his wrong doings without the wifey by his side? Actually, he never said why he was apologizing. If your going to resign, don't cheapen it by taking the easy way out. Explain why you are resigning and what you did that was so very illegal, asshole!
bebop4one
MikeShotgun
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@ tslothrop
I think Spoony Bard meant Larry Craig, not Larry David, just fwiw.
MikeShotgun
hondo
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@radink360:
Ummm... isn't there something in the rules about not having anything NSFW in you profile pic? o_O
Some of us do read this at work.
hondo
Fulgurator
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd:
It was more a rhetorical question, i agree with you.
Fulgurator
Typo Positive
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I think Spitzer's wife did look particularly out of place this morning, but that's SOP in politics.
I believe @Spoony Bard means disgraced Senator Larry Craig... I'm imagining Larry David sitting at home screaming "What did I do?!", cut to black and that ridiculous CYE theme song.
Typo Positive
dv8godd
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd: " ...just doesn't seem to be in the woman's best interest any of the times it happens to me..."
boy, did THAT come out sounding wrong. ;)
I meant... it doesn't seem to me to be in her best interests whether it's love, shellshock, or personal ambition.
dv8godd
dv8godd
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Fulgurator: I'm not saying she isn't... that's what I'm sorta passively aggressively suggesting. Curious if anyone in NY state has any more information about her motivations.
@FIRST!!!: Yes, I know... I'm not saying it's rare. I'm saying "why is it common"?
I don't imagine that every wife has political ambitions all her own... seems kinda weird overall. Like it's done because that's the way it works rather than it's what makes sense.
Just strange to me, the whole charade. I mean, are people fooled? Does she look like she's pleased to be here? She looks fairly annoyed to me, yet she's still coming along for the ride to have their marriage drug through the mud on national TV.
I've seen this a number of times and I always wonder the same thing... just doesn't seem to be in the woman's best interest any of the times it happens to me, on any level.
dv8godd
majortom1981
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I am actually interested in his replacement. The first legally bling Govenor in the US and the first Black Govenor in NY State history. I just hope the New Govenor is not scared to do his own thing.
majortom1981
UncleScrotar
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Sex with high price hookers is nice. He spent something like $80K on hookers, talk about desperation. You know what kids, i don't really want you to go to college because daddy needs a new hooker tonight cause mommy makes him puke...
UncleScrotar
ShawnC++
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I would like the money I paid in New York state taxes back please, or at least 5 minutes with the hooker.
ShawnC++
jackal888
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
The higher you put yourself on a pedestal the father you gave to fall.
1. He was so stupid using his bank accounts to shuffle money around for high class hookers. That is what caught him ,the banks and the IRS.
2. Trafficking a hooker across state lines is a federal offense. Caling a girl from NYC to travel to Washington D.C. was stupid. Now he could go to federal prison.
3. The wives are in it for the cash. She knows he is paid. She knew he was cheating. Most of them are just upset that he got caught and now everyone knows.
jackal888
lilaliendog
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
his wife looks totally destroyed
lilaliendog
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I hope this piece of crap guy gets locked up. The crap he pulled in destroying innocent people's lives is unforgiveable. He abused his power to help him and his cronies and I don't feel sorry for him, or his power hungry wife, who wanted him to see if he could hang on to his govenorship.
HurricaneDave
Willbear
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Oh sure, it might not set a good example. I'm just not certain we can reasonably expect someone to be thinking rationally and calmly in a situation like that, at least not right away.
Willbear
Tale
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Obviously, his exposure to the GTA games in pursuit of criticizing them has subjected him to their foul influence. Rockstar and T2 should be held responsible.
Tale
icepick314
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
we all should take up donations for this going away present...
how's about limited edition of GTA IV?
icepick314
ban_hammer
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
He did a decent job, and fair enough, he wasn't a asshole against GTA, he just spoke out against it. There were worse politicians that tried to ban it for real. Spitzer was all talk with GTA, but he did a fne job at fighting real problems, not vidoeogames
ban_hammer
dv8godd
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Willbear: Re: Wife... it is pretty common to see. I don't think it sets a good example for other women though. It's kinda the lite version of "I love him because he doesn't 'always' beat me".
An asshole is an asshole, whether that abuse is physical, emotional, or psychological.
I can see the shell-shock thing... but I wonder if it actually is the coming of her agenda (which we've seen before too), is this kind of "I stand by asshole over here" really a good message.
It's one thing to come out on stage once... but she's been there every time I've seen. I just have trouble groking that kind of devotion to someone who has so clearly betrayed your trust and gotten it dragged into the public forum. Love or not, I'd sooner stay indoors than parade.
dv8godd
SagatSon
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Oh great.
Another pile-on by the predictably narrow-minded, insular, immature gaming community (and press). Never mind the good Spitzer has done for his country. Never mind the murderers, corrupt police officers and corporate criminals he's put behind bars. Never mind how he helped restore public trust in the markets after Enron by taking on some of the biggest names in corporate America for violations of securities law.
Never mind that fellow gamers, because he dared to speak against our stupid little hobby. He dared support a law that would outlaw the sale of violent video games to minors without parent's permission.
Spitzer's crime was despicable and hypocritical, but our country is a safer, better place thanks to his work as New York A.G.
SagatSon
Garrison Dean
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
"I've experienced many hookers.. and I've never killed any of them and taken my money back after increasing my health. This game is wrong, unrealistic, and immoral and should be stopped."
Garrison Dean
BtownDesignGuy
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Um. I hate politicians who turn videogames into a witch hunt as much as the next guy, but... isn't this starting to get a little petty. I mean, in addition to criticizing an understandably controversial videogame, he also, you know, governed the state of New York.
BtownDesignGuy
RonJeremy4Pres
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I just have to check now to make sure this asshole didn't get a plea bargain! It seems to me they shouldn't have to bargain with him at all... a guy with his past could just be kicked out of office outright, and then deserves to get the maximum sentence...turnabout is fair play.
RonJeremy4Pres
tslothrop
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Spoony Bard: I don't get it.
What does Larry David have to do with politics or hypocrisy?
tslothrop
FIRST!!!
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd: And he's not alone either. Look at every politician that commits adultery. Their wifes stand there as if they support them and forgive them.
FIRST!!!
selfhatingotaku
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I always love the fact that whenever scandels about a politicians private affairs become public, they always wheel out the wife and kids to, 'stand bravely beside them in unity and resolve during this stressful time,' well, thats assuming that woman was his wife anyway, oooh burn!
selfhatingotaku
Fulgurator
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd:
Why not?
Fulgurator
Willbear
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Re: wife
There was an interesting article featuring the (ex) wife of another disgraced politician. Basically, she's standing there because she's loved her husband for many years and she's utterly shell-shocked.
Here's a thought about Spitzer: maybe his reviling of video game 'perversion' was an expression of guilt and self-hate?
Doesn't make him any less of a hypocrite, but just thinking.
Willbear
SchoolBusDriver
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
One of Harvards prouder moments I'm sure ...
@PaddyStardust:
$4200 dollars a night, she better be swallowing.
SchoolBusDriver
Wolfers
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Mr. holier than thou, himself. What a pig.
Wolfers
dv8godd
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@Fulgurator: So you're saying she's got an agenda too now? Is this the next Hillary standing next to him?
dv8godd
Fulgurator
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd:
That's politics, not love.
Fulgurator
Setzer IIDX
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Maybe this guy will get off of the Patriot's backs too now.
Setzer IIDX
mrantimatter
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I like how hes not going to drag it out, deny it for months, and such, like other politicians do. He farked up, and was willing to pay the price, and isn't going to waste taxpayer time or money on the issue.
Kudos for him.
Still a hypocrit though.
mrantimatter
slomo788
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Just in: Spitzer was paid by Take-Two to act this scandal as hype for GTA4!!!
slomo788
dv8godd
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
@dv8godd: "her"... damn keyboard.
dv8godd
Adzz
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Hes down for the IV Collectors Edition and resigning for some quality GTA time. XD
Adzz
dv8godd
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I really wanna know...
... why is his wife still standing next to him?
Yeah, not understanding that one. Prick should at least have a black eye from he smacking the shit out of him.
dv8godd
Spoony Bard
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Hypocrisy is all too rampant in politics. Look at Larry David.
This is just depressing. Especially for the Democrats.
Spoony Bard
Zaos
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Civil Servant used tax payers dollars to stop hookers
Civil Servant used tax payers dollars to get hookers (for himself)
And people complained that NYC was used for GTAIV? Thats the perfect setup.
Politicans think that kids get bad ideas from fictional games, when real people are doing the bad things. Granted Politicans are no longer role models that they used to be, but still something more to look up to than a video game.
Zaos
Gadgetron
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
perhaps now he will have some free time to sit down an playa gta game.
its almost a tailor made game for him.
1. pick up hooker
2. spend "time" with hooker
3. kick hooker to the curb, beat her senseless.
4. get money back.
Gadgetron
Collapse The Control
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
He wasn't too fond of GTA because they went about the hooker business all wrong.
Rockstar is going to add him into the next game.
Collapse The Control
RET_Ghost
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I have a friend too, I call her Karma. Doesn't seem like she likes Spitzer too much.
RET_Ghost
Pezdispenser
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
Aww, I was kind of hoping he make this a long and dragged out battle for our viewing pleasure. I wanted to watch him squirm.
Oh well, best of luck to him. Maybe now that he has all of this free time he can do something productive, like play GTA. ;)
Pezdispenser
Fulgurator
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
I find the headline at the bottom of the video link disturbing.
Fulgurator
PaddyStardust
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
But did the hooker Spitz or Swallow?
I apologise profusely, I couldnt help it, the pun had an iron grip on me.
PaddyStardust
candyman261
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
One word for that guy, "hypocrite."
candyman261
radink360
Posted 10:46 PM 19/3/08
He didn't like the game because you could shoot hookers.. you know, his friends! :)
radink360