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It's Shocking, We're Pissed, Wii Fit Sorta Works
Posted by Brian Ashcraft at 5:00 AM on March 1, 2008
Let's get this out of the way: Wii Fit does work. Why wouldn't it? It's based on time-trued exercises. Stuff like doing sit-ups, push-ups and jogging. Well, jogging in place. But, to what extend does it work? For the past month, I've used Wii Fit on nearly a daily basis. Wii Fit isn't something you can review in 8 or time hours of play. You need weeks, months even! My Wii Fit workout was interrupted by two breaks: One for when my wife was sick (and I then got sick) and another when my wife was sick again (Nintendo, please make Wii Healthy, kthanxbai). Like with most things, results do vary from person to person. For me, some of it worked brilliantly. And some of it not.
"...when I started regularly going to the swimming hall, my weight dropped quite a bit, and it felt like my overall fitness had increased as well. I started thinking that getting fit could actually be fun."
—Shigeru Miyamoto
Last year, I began power walking. This writing job involves a great deal of sitting. And since I work at home, there's not much impetus for me to leave the house. (Getting dressed is a challenge most days as well.) Back before I got married and I spent my time talking to semi-pretty women and getting in bar fights (no, really), I weighed in at a meek 130 pounds. Know: I'm 5 foot 11 inches. I was super model thin, and shopping at chic Japanese boutiques was no problem. Then I got married, decided to quit smoking two packs a day and get very, very fat. I jumped up to 177 pounds. Blame Mrs. Bashcraft's delicious cooking or being able to down a half a bottle of sake. A big bottle. All of my super swank designer clothes were too small. I suffered a horrible embarrassment at a Paul Smith boutique, where I used to shop regularly, where none of their sizes could fit me. Hello fat American! But, as I approach thirty, the slow realization has set-in: We don't live forever. (That, and you can buy big designer clothes in America.)
So, I started trying to take better care of myself. You know, take vitamins, stop drinking entire bottles of sake and power walking. Power walking was great. An excuse to get out of the house and away from my job. Escape. I live right next to a river, and it was great to get exercise as the evening sun was glistening on that brown, cloudy river. During that course, I dropped five or six pounds, felt better about life. Then winter hit, I got cold, and I got wrapped up with several big magazine features and writing a book. I became a hermit. Well, a bigger hermit. Too busy to get out in the fresh air, I wanted something that would let me stay in shape inside. Something like Wii Fit.
"You don't join a company like Nintendo and expect to work on an accessory that can weigh players, do you? (laughs)"
— Satoru Iwata
Back when Wii Fit was introduced at E3 last year, we were pretty dumb founded. Nintendo's made a ton of crazy peripherals, but those were gaming peripherals. This wasn't. Nintendo planned on taking Wii Sports one step further. There was an instant appeal for the title for both gamers and casuals players. Here was something that could make us not tubby. Hooray! This isn't the magic bullet that many gamers are looking for. If you want results, you'll need to put in the time. During the course of my Wii Fitting, I ended up losing weight. Not much, but still. Likewise, Vinnk over at 4 Color Rebellion has dropped the pounds. He's recorded his progress in-depth here, here and here. A must read if you are serious about losing weight. Thing is, I'm not exactly sure how much credit to give Wii Fit. Gaming-wise, it's revolutionary, but exercise-wise? Go jogging everyday for thirty minutes. You'll lose weight. Promise. And it's totally free!
And it sounds so stupid. But weighing yourself everyday does make you aware of your own body. It is a bit like watching a kettle boil, though. You become aware of how your body weight changes during the course of the day, and that's something so obvious that I hadn't every really thought of it before. I noticed that I was eating less, because I knew pigging out would totally muck up my progress. Below is my weight chart for the past month. I started out at roughly 79 kilograms (174 pounds), which is almost overweight for someone of my height. (Ironically, that's about where I ended up!) Even as I was doing Wii Fit on a regular basis, I noticed odd spikes up and down. I ballooned at one point, it seems, but then got that back down during my training. Since your weight changes during the day, when you weigh yourself seems to matter as much as, well, what you do. Oh, and that huge upwards spike? Mrs. Bashcraft thought it would be funny if she pressed her foot on the Balance Board while weighing myself (she didn't know it was for work). Hilarious!

"I don't think Wii Fit's purpose is to make you fit..."
— Shigeru Miyamoto
Like when anyone starts a new exercise program, I went all out when I started. And like most, my goal wasn't to be fit, per se, but to drop a few extra pounds. Wii Fit is divided up into several sections: Aerobic Exercise, Muscle Conditioning, Yoga and Balance Games. Wii Fit doesn't recommend exercises, so when you start, there's stuff in each of these categories and stuff you can unlock. But, if you are looking for guidance, this isn't the place. (Wii Fit does explain how each individual exercise tones muscles and whatnot.) Remember: All the game knows about you is your real age, your Mii name, your age, your height and your weight. Still, more than any exercise video. An advantage exercise DVD has is that the program is already laid out for the user. Wii Fit doesn't lay anything out. So if you don't know what you are doing, then you'll likely stay that way. I experienced with several different of the exercise programs. But my goal was the same: Spend approximately thirty minutes on the board — approximately the same length of time I spent power walking.
A lot of the exercises seemed ideal for toning muscles — though, several of them are extremely challenging. The exercise that got me too bust my ass the most? The Hoola Hoop balance game. It's fun and doesn't have that dry text-book feel of most of the exercises do. It feels like a game, raises your heart rate and brings back those fond Wii Tennis memories. You know, the ones before I started hating it. The object is to move your hips around in a circle and try to "catch" hoops your family members toss at you without letting the hoops you're spinning fall. It has you rotate your hips clockwise and counterclockwise, working belly muscles in both directions. The Hoola Hoop game gets your heart racing, and it's super easy to break a sweat in a concentrated period of time. I was wiping the bottoms of my feet off between sets and enjoying it. I'd do two of three sets of it everyday, and I could feel it. In a short period of time, I was really seeing results and dropping stomach blubber like that. My personal hit score: 818 rotations, clockwise and counterclockwise.
Then I felt it. Remember that sharp pain you'd get from playing too much Wii Tennis? I was getting it in my knees. Getting it bad. When you use a regular Hoola Hoop, you can move your feet around, lift them up off the ground. With Wii Fit, you can't really. That is, unless you want to fall off the Balance Board. Everything's concentrated on your knees, and it actually got so painful that I stopped doing the Hoop game altogether. In its place, I tried other games and exercises. None of them seemed to be as effective for me. There's a jogging game, which doesn't even use the Balance Board, but has players run in place with the Wii-mote in the pocket. While doing it, I kept wondering why I just didn't, you know, go outside and run? Didn't really do much for me. There's also a Dance Dance Revolution-style stepping game. The gap for hitting the steps is so huge that it hardly feels like A). exercise B). a game. There are more "traditional" exercises, but do I really need Wii Fit to help me do push-ups and sit-ups?
"Yoga was originally part of a separate plan from Wii Fit. Yoga was undergoing an upsurge in popularity in Japan at around the same time as we were conducting the planning meetings, so there was a staff member who wanted to make yoga-related software. But I rejected it outright by saying, "You can't just put something into a product because it's popular, you know! It might look like a good plan, but it's no good as a product.'"
— Shigeru Miyamoto
Back when I was in college, several of my friends started yoga. They loved it and went on and on about it. I smiled, nodded and quietly labeled them freaks. Years later, I cannot say enough good things about Wii Fit yoga. If Nintendo makes an separate Yoga game, I will totally buy it. If another publisher makes a half-decent one, ditto. Wii Fit Yoga does a brilliant job of incorporating both the Balance Board and a sense of accomplishment better than a lot of the muscle training exercises. Actually trying to stand perfectly still while breathing is changing — and incredibly relaxing. When I did ten minutes or so of yoga, I seriously felt better. And the more and more poses I was able to do, the better I felt about myself. Whether that was transferring into weight loss really seemed somewhat irrelevant. I was feeling fit and eager to use the hardware.

"Sometime during development, I started looking at the Wii Balance Board as more than just an accessory that could weigh players and more like a controller used with the feet."
— Takao Sawano, Wii Fit lead
This is Nintendo's biggest mistake. If, if Nintendo has announced the Balance Board as a Foot Controller, everyone would be saying that's the greatest thing imaginable. Because, well, a foot controller sounds pretty cool! Instead, Nintendo called it Wii Fit, promoted it towards casuals and then told us that Wii Fit's purpose wasn't to make you fit, but so that you can weigh yourself. Sure, Nintendo's just covering its own ass with that assumption, but even then, that sounds like mehsville. The Balance Board games on Wii Fit actually are pretty great. If you can still stomach mini-games (ungh), then these games are entertaining and, in a way, more fulfilling than Wii Sports. I've never played video games with my feet. Thing is, the games and Wii Fit cover a good deal of ground, and it's hard to say how much breathing room is left. Why would I want to buy a Balance Board snowboarding game when Wii Fit already has one? Ditto for Balance Board Monkey Ball as Wii Fit already has a clone. Not sure how much room there left for innovation, but I'm eager to see what (if anything) Nintendo and other developers can come up with.
I must confess: When I saw Wii Fit at E3 last year, I hated it. Really, really hated it. And when I bought it for this feature, I still hated it. Then I started using it, and the hate started dissipating. Nintendo's doing its own thing now, for better or worse. And taking Wii Fit for what it is, the game works. My wife and my kid really enjoy it, and it's a horrible cliche, but playing it with them has been good fun. Yes, it doesn't have online. Yes, there should be downloadable exercises. Yes, it should do more. Things can always be made better, and hopefully, Nintendo realizes that. Will I keep using Wii Fit? Probably. It's going to be Spring soon, you know. And I'll need something to track my progress while I go power walking by the river.

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Reuptake
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
See, I know that I could get just as fit without the game - hell, people have been losing weight and gaining muscle mass since the dawn of time. This isn't a silver bullet, but it might be perfect for me. The draw of it is having detailed statistics to track progress and improvement. One of the reasons my workout routines always seem to falter is because I have a hard time following my progress. This might be just up my alley.
Reuptake
Jenstar: The O.C. Ninty Rep
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Thank you Brian for your honest and complete review of Wii Fit. I'm really glad to hear it from someone who didn't like the product initially. Very interesting.
Jenstar: The O.C. Ninty Rep
zingbot
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Ninja-Z: I agree. Those who have formed prejudices against this (or any other new idea) without experiencing them are short-sighted at best. If it is crap when it comes out, then let's call it that.
zingbot
brundlefly76
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Yeah we're calling you out nameless blogger - we want an shirtless jpg of you holding todays newspaper with independently verified 3rd party weigh-in.
We want to see what a 5' 11" 177 lb 'fat man' looks like.
brundlefly76
jack_d
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
What is up with the horrid grammar in this article? It makes parts of it painful to read.
jack_d
CaptainMurphy
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@SSJPabs: Power Walking isn't. At least back here in the states it is reserved for old people and crazy ladies. The rest of us (excuse me, the rest of the self concious Americans) jog or go to the Y.
CaptainMurphy
miffy495
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
That was a great read, thanks. I've been thinking about taking up Yoga recently, as at 6'3" 210lbs I'm not nearly as limber as I'd sometimes like to be. I'm not overweight at all, just built somewhat like a football player, and we all know how flexible those guys are. My sister, who is a dancer, has been suggesting it to me. Problem is that I'd like to do it in the privacy of my own home. Wii Fit doesn't really interest me at all, but for the inclusion of a Yoga program I could do by myself with instruction from that lovable little white box next to my TV. It's really great to hear that that aspect of the game is as good as I was hoping. I may even try to convince the girlfriend to try it with me, as the only games she'll ever touch are on the Wii anyway.
miffy495
moviebob
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I like how up front the headline is about the unexpectedness of seeing a positive writeup of a Wii peripheral/"non-game" on Kotaku ;) Seriously, though - this is why this is the best gamer site on the web... actual legitimate JOURNALISM on the medium. Capital job, Ashcraft.
I'll be honest, I'm not all that sure I'm buying this - not really my thing (hell, I ADORE my Wii but I think I've only ever played Wii Sports at friends' houses and the first week I had it) until at least a test-run, but I'll tell ya what: Am I the only one looking forward to a year's worth of "video games making your kid healthy" stories shoving "video games making your kid a sociopath" stories off the news?
moviebob
Marlor
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Foxstar Sixtail:
I'm not sure I'd be interested in sharing my results with others.
One of the main points is to track your weight. That's something you do for yourself, not as a competition with others.
Marlor
Foxstar Sixtail
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Aimless: Aye, same here. Now if it only had some sort of online features, allowing you to show your results and see the results of others..
Oh well by itself, it's sheer gold. I see it selling at least 2 million units within the US alone this year and that's holding back.
Foxstar Sixtail
Aimless
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Wii Fit has always been around a first day purchase for me.
It's brilliant, quite simply.
Aimless
drbrownt0wn
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Falsoman: you aint kidding about us mexicans getting screwed on pricing for everything. I am sooo going to abuse of my El Paso relatives to import things at US price. Damn weak peso!
drbrownt0wn
Mongoosekun
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
You might like the old eye toy game kinetic better. It really is a workout. You get cardio, balance, and toning. Also it has routines for yoga, tai chi, firming, etc. Still the best workout video game I've seen yet. I hold out hope something like it for the EYE on PS3 will come out with even more features, graphics, and maybe even DLC routines. Hell, I'd even work on that title.
Mongoosekun
eastx
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
He's convinced me. I'm getting it.
eastx
ara
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Want to play with your feet and brake a sweat? Start playing Virtual Fighter (or any other fighter) with DDR pad. Even special moves are doable and sure keeps you moving.
ara
Zyzex_Remix
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I love seeing that spike in your progress. SPIKE OF SHAME!
Zyzex_Remix
Brian Ashcraft
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@mahjustin:
Totally agree. That's why I focused less on BMI index while using Wii Fit. As I mentioned, Wii Fit only knows your weight, height and age. Not much else!
I want to get around to 175 pounds — 170, if I'm lucky. That's my goal, something I still have yet to achieve. :(
Brian Ashcraft
mahjustin
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Ashcraft,
The BMI index is actually a relatively poor indicator of whether you are overweight or not, for the same reasons as a couple of people have stated in here, that it doesn't take into account the amount of muscle mass you have.
I'm 5'8", around 165lbs. According to the BMI index, I'm on the verge of being very overweight. But guess what? I go to the gym almost everyday, I eat quite clean compared to most people, and I look very lean compared to those who are the same height and weight but do not eat good or exercise.
Wii Fit as a fitness tool will only help you lose weight up to a point. Losing weight for most people is synonymous with losing "fat", and people mis-leading believe that by doing cardio and toning type exercises, it will help them reach their goals.
Wii Fit's limitation is that it doesn't allow a user to develop a whole lot of muscle, it's only limited to what resistance you can provide with your body weight, which isn't a whole lot. Without gaining muscle, your basal metabolic rate or BMR (aka the amount of calories you burn while resting) will never go up, which is one of the keys to permanent fat loss.
But since there's a huge problem of obesity in America (lack of exercise and high calorie foods), Wii Fit is better than nothing...
Wii Fit's program should be coupled with a Wii Eat Healthy game.
mahjustin
fecalchaos
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
In my mind, Wii Fit is just another way I've been alienated by Nintendo on their latest system. It's why I can't ever see myself with a Wii.
There will never be a more healthy subsitute for solid running/jogging/stair sprints, or any other real "outside" exercise. It annoys me that these gimmicks want you to believe otherwise.
fecalchaos
ssh83
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Brian, once you're done with the review, sell the plastic board and covert yourself to [www.femail.com.au]
ssh83
dead_red_eyes
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz:
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
@ BASHCRAFT
Great article! I know the damn things gimmicky, but I think that I'll get one. thanks to your writeup!
dead_red_eyes
JayDiggler
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I'm 5'8 and I'm 205 lbs and I'm not fat at all, so it does depend on the person's body type.
JayDiggler
THX5334
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@sqwarlock:
That's exactly what I was thinking...
I'm 5'9 almost 5'10 and I'd kill to be 177.
THX5334
pyropetey
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
A lot of you are claiming that 177 and 5'11 isn't fat lol. Hmm doenst it depend on the body of the person? Thin tall people can sometime weight extremely light and not to mention some people just have more muscle in thier body adjusting aka more weight... this is why the BMI has ranges of weights for different types of people.
pyropetey
Billkwando
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Great review. I need to get Wii Fit so it can sit unused next to Yourself! Fitness.
Seriously though, it does look like fun, but the knee thing scares me. I'm still recovering from a knee injury I got doing Sumo Kendo. Fell on the teacher and almost pulled his hakama off.
Billkwando
ohayou_kun
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
i feel your pain about the clothes not fighting dude. 2 weeks ago i could fit into a 24 size jeans. Now its back to my 26's. Now i keep wondering how much weight could one's ass acquire in a two week period that would warrant a size change.
ohayou_kun
mrantimatter
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
While interesting, I don't see how it's worth the expences, given I can do all that on my own for the cost of a bathroom scale and a calender. Wiifit seems most like a way of tracking your progress, combined iwht some excercise minigames. Interesting, maybe worth half the cost, but not the $100 nintendo wants for it.
Whats odd is that when Sony put out an excercise game, it was largely ignored, where as Nintendo got massive press for theirs.
mrantimatter
Power_Wrist
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I could see using the Wii Fit Balance Board as a peripheral for a game, maybe moving the character onscreen with the board and controlling arm movements with the Wiimote and Nunchuck.
Power_Wrist
Xlom3000
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Fresh Air and Sunshine? I think you mean smog and the cancer giver.
Note for the internet illiterate, that's what we call sarcasm.
All joking aside, i guess it's good for those kids who do nothing but sit in their room and play games all day. Maybe their parents can trick them into exercising eh?
Xlom3000
iNime
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
hmmm... i'll just stick to pinnacle of fun exercise... ya know, soccer, skateboarding, biking, etc... crazy thought, i know, but unless wii fit is offering fresh air and sunshine... PASS!
iNime
stromasdragon
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I really like this review. Full of all the information that I wanted to know. Yes there are many doubts about the 'game' but there are also many good factors. Will I be buying in on launch NO. Will I see how it fairs in they UK yes and hope that price drops.
stromasdragon
creid
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
"You can't just put something into a product because it's popular, you know! It might look like a good plan, but it's no good as a product.'"
- Shigeru Miyamoto
I think this is hilarious, considering Nintendo shoved Sudoku into the US version of Brain Age... because it's popular.
creid
TiKiMaN1
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Really good article Brian. I too will have to try Wii Fit out when it is released in the US.
TiKiMaN1
crazyorloco
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Whoa. Fantastic write up Brian. I can't wait to try out Wii Fit yoga. :-)
crazyorloco
SSJPabs
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Um, 5' 11" 170 lbs is just about normal...
SSJPabs
Huckleberry
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Glad you could overcome your preconceptions about Wii Fit and give it a fair shot, Ashcraft. Nintendo's ideas are easy to scoff at when first hearing them, but you really have to admire their vision and ability to really understand consumers. They're able to say, "Let's make a game where you're aware of your body" and not only make it work, but make it fun and accessible to everyone.
Ashcraft mentioned that it would be great if the product "did more." Those games will come. Nintendo has reasserted itself as being a first-mover on ideas and innovation. It wouldn't make sense to add another year of development to this product to add feature after feature, especially because most consumers are not going to use those features. Online? Maybe 25% of Wii Fit purchasers will use that feature. So maybe in the next version.
Eventually we will see Sony and Microsoft (and other companies) start to push into the new markets Nintendo has opened up, and we'll see more feature-heavy versions of these games. But while Nintendo is taking these risks, let's be glad that they're providing such polished titles and look forward to the future.
Huckleberry
Ninja-Z
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
You see, this is why I hate people who mock game trends and types they don't like without even considering playing it, what benefits it might provide, and the audience that might like playing it. Glad to see you actually take the game on and detail its appeal and faults with little bias, Brian. Which there were more articles like this.
Ninja-Z
Calicomarie
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Lemming: Quiting smoking also slows your metabolism, so it's not the extra food that's adding the pounds. There's a reason cigs were marketed as a weight loss product back in the 50's.
Calicomarie
my spoon is too big
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz: pretty soon, you are going to hate Mondays...
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You know, I really a excited about this game, and even my own parents who never play the Wii outside of Mario 3 and Galaga have been asking me about this, and I don't even know where they heard about it. Has this game already gotten mainstream press attention even before it's release?
my spoon is too big
tincow
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
More articles like this about Wii, less articles about how it is "totally gay" and destined to trigger the apocolypse or whatever the rabid detractors think it's going to do. Thanks.
tincow
ryohazuki
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Wow, I'm surprised by the lack of furigana on that last pic. Not that the kanji are especially hard, but I would have pegged Wii Fit as an "E for Everyone" game. Including little 5 year olds who can't necessarily read all those characters yet.
ryohazuki
stonefry
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Hey everybody. Bash doesn't actually think he's fat. I believe he was using hyperbole.
stonefry
rawg
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I mocked the WiiFit when it was first announced and I'm still skeptical but after reading this article I'm seriously considering getting one for me and the wife based on your recommendation.
Ha - I feel like I'm in a Kotaku version of Oprah's Book Club... and yes that would make you Oprah, Brian.
rawg
bodmodkub
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I have to agree with Elektrodragon. If you think that 5'11" and 177lbs is very fat, you have a very skewed sense of reality. Maybe you're just used to living in japan where overall the people are smaller and skinnier. COuld be that you're perception is skewed because you were super model skinny, which by the way is considered just as unhealthy medically as being overweight.
I'm 5'8" and 200lbs, and I, yes I would consider myself being fat, but in no way very fat. Hell when I look at pics of myself when I was 18 and 150 lbs, I think I looked sickly as hell.
bodmodkub
PissedPS3Fan
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@sqwarlock:
You obviously don't live in Japan. In the west we're used to seeing 300+ pound lardasses, so 177 doesn't seem like much. Go to Japan and see how many overweight people you find. Much less than USA, England, or Australia. Since so many people are thin, there is a distorted view of what is "fat".
Case in point: My wife (who is Japanese) is a healthy 125 pounds or so. Her whole life she got teased for being "fat". So in her mind, 125 pounds is "fat" to her, no matter how much I try to tell her otherwise.
Incidentally, she's really interested in Wii Fit. I'll probably pick it up.
PissedPS3Fan
DaiMacculate
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Sailorcancer: Damn EyeToy Kinetic can tell how much you weigh and track that over time? I really did miss something interesting if so ;)
DaiMacculate
SAGA
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
whats the max on this thing? i'm a big boi 6'5 300+
SAGA
deathbunny
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@ElektroDragon: He might be wafer thin. Like a mint.
yeah. 177 would mean I was on the verge of death. But I'm 6'6".
I've tried various approaches to the sedentary at-home workout, and, frankly, it just doesn't do it. For me, at least, I need a babysitter, and a place to go and do something--and it's usually weights, because I like spending alot of effort over short timescales, rather then endlessly plodding along. Of course, I can't fit into a japanese baby-T, so YMMV.
deathbunny
Spaceboy
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I'm kind of excited for this. I love looking at statistics and data and it's even more fun when it's in a pretty little chart with Miis standing around. Plus, I'll be healthier. Win for all.
Spaceboy
ElektroDragon
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Very fat at 177 pounds??! You're an idiot. I'm 250 pounds and I don't even look fat with clothes on.
ElektroDragon
HobbaHobba
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Of course it works, duh.
But it can't replace gym, that's for sure.
HobbaHobba
MidnightScott17
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Oh yeah I'm still getting Wii Fit, it would be good for me even when I can't go anywhere. Plus I just asked my mom if I got it if she would play it and she said "probably" which is better than "maybe".
MidnightScott17
Falsoman
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@KirbyMorph: Where do you live?
I Know we mexicans get screwed on everything pricewise. But 80-100 bucks for a year membership in a GYM that's incredibly cheap.
Anyway, i also do a lot of exersize lately, on an increidbly expensive gym apparently, but i do it on the afternoons/nights, so i think Wii Fit may be a cool adition for an out of bed warm up. And it looks like fun for me.
Falsoman
MidnightScott17
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I'm 6'1 & 200 lbs, I think I'm considered overweight, I could stand to lose a couple of pounds. I just need my bike fixed and maybe I'll go ride it every week and help burn some calories that way.
MidnightScott17
Rebelphoenix83
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Kinda want...
Rebelphoenix83
KirbyMorph
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Archaotic: Have you ever seen a sumo wrestler?
This was probably the best Wii Fit article / review I've read. Very in-depth and informative.
Like all exercise 'gimmicks' or 'accessories', the money spent on them typically leads to more useage and a stricter regimen than simply going for a 'free' jog or trip to the public pool or university gym.
Also, I'd imagine the Wii Fit "workout" is fairly easy compared to a jog or other high impact workout, making it much more appealing the general public.
Still, I won't be spending $80-100 on a scale when that's my gym membership fee for a year, but I can see the appeal of this for some people. I think it will end up a novelty though, wheeled out when company comes over, much like how my Wii Sports ended up being. "Hey, look, you can do Tennish with real motions or boxing!" except this time, it'll just be the odd yoga or snowboarding example and then back in the closet.
KirbyMorph
wearafrown
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
i hate everyone that hates Wiifit, i think it's revolutionary. I'm buying it day one.
wearafrown
ph15h
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I guess... I'll buy it. If it can change something from hate to semi-approval, I guess it's worth a try.
ph15h
CarbonatedWater
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I don't think I'll buy this but it's nice to know that it works somewhat.
CarbonatedWater
Benjo
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Yes people, Nintendo actually does know what they're doing (save for the Virtual Boy)
Benjo
CaptLtrl
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Actually, Rock Band drums are keeping me in pretty good shape. Except for my left leg..... I'm definitely more muscular after playing drums for 3 months than I've been since I used to play DDR.
I don't think Wii Fit can offer me the kind of rewarding experience I get from playing music though, so most likely I'll take a pass on this one.
CaptLtrl
eduardjm
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@KM91: Brilliant!
eduardjm
Lemming
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@CaptLtrl: Actually when you quit smoking, just dont eat more. That's what does it. People who quit smoking tend to eat more than they used to. Using the mouth and hands, see?
Lemming
Lemming
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
From someone who actually has a personal trainer: Weighing yourself is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
If you are getting fitter, you don't lose alot of weight. the flab turns to muscle. The best way to tell is if your clothes fit looser. Your overall weight doesn't drop a lot unless you are really overweight.
Lemming
Kimchi
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I was thinking the same thing. Will Japan people are must thinner than our American fat ars
Kimchi
Robotube
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz: Congrats on that first comment! Witzbold, tell him what he's won!!
Anyway...this article has me genuinely excited about Wii Fit indeed. I think Nintendo probably realizes that some of their wackier ideas take some time to grow on the user, but they know that eventually, there will be a pay off. I think the DS was a good example of that (I remember thinking the whole dual screen thing was a giant WTF, but now I love it) and same with the Wii, though I liked that whole idea nearly right out of the gate. The name, however, took some time. But look how even THAT ended up working out pretty well!
Robotube
CaptLtrl
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Great, I have fatness to look forward to as soon as I quit smoking. Yeah, i'm supermodel thin. 135, 5 11.
Note to self, when you quit smoking start working out more.
CaptLtrl
nox
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Can you cheat and use your hands to get a better score like the old NES pad?
nox
zztopp
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
WiiFit...a massive phenomena just waiting to happen.
Before people dismiss this, do they realise how important the groundbreaking casual appeal of Wii Sports has been in pushing millions of units of Wii around the world ?
zztopp
OT79
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I still don get hyped for this,I'll rather prefer do real exercise,my games are for entertain me not for either else,but I'll respect your opinions.
OT79
Lavastine
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@sqwarlock:
This is what I was gonna say, I'm 180 and 6'2" and I am skinny as fuck,
Lavastine
Setzer IIDX
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@acez2087: That's what I thought about my woman with DDR/GH/Karaoke Revolution/Beatmania since she's a music major.
To date, she only somewhat enjoys rock band.
...And cooking mama.
Setzer IIDX
Do Kesubei
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Quite the informercial, this. It may work, but it's still more than I would pay for it.
It also doesn't seem like the type of thing that would do well in an apartment. I've got neighbors under me.
Do Kesubei
GhaleonUnlimited
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Even if it doesn't help you lose tons of weight, it's definitely healthier than doing nothing on a daily basis(kind of like Brain Age).
GhaleonUnlimited
Sailorcancer
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
"when I started regularly going to the swimming hall, my weight dropped quite a bit, and it felt like my overall fitness had increased as well. I started thinking that getting fit could actually be fun."
NO SHIT SHERLOCK.
Anyone with a 1st grade education if not lesser could have concluded to that.
Exercise has a huge variety of things. Not just football, basketball, baseball, running, etc. Stuff like Yoga, dance *not that DDR shit*, Pilates, etc. Are also parts of the mix.
Wii Fit to me still looks dull, and at the same time looks like something you can do for over half of what you'd pay Nintendo. You have to pay $250 for Wii, $70 or $80 for the actual game and board. You can get a freaking DVD for $10 and get a better workout then you'd get with that.
I have exercise steps, with step aerobic workout tapes that I use, plus a there's a bunch of other tapes in the house, a abs flex machine from the rockin 90s, and I still have my yoga routine I did back in High School that I do.
Does Wii Fit work? I'm sure it does, but I don't get this miraculous honor that it's been getting, when Eye Toy Kinetics has been out since late 2005, and offers the same if not more of what Wii Fit does at a lower price *I got mine at launch for $49 and it came with a Eye Toy*.
Wii Healthy would show that people are ineffectual. Being Healthy is one of the simplest things to do. Eat right, exercise at most an hour a day, and take care of yourself and BADABOOM your healthy!
Sailorcancer
jp182
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@greeble: actually not really, I'm 5'10 and 175 but my body fat percentage is like 12%. I think most people forget about BMI when determining if they are "fat" or not (friggin labels)
jp182
acez2087
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
My fiancee would love this game since she's a personal trainer lol.
acez2087
jp182
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Setzer IIDX: Yes SSX, using this board! i want that game.
I don't think using the board will make you fit but I think using this will get some people motivated to be more active; and for MANY Americans, I think it'll be worth it.
jp182
kupoporo
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Awesome article! I found your wife-caused spike in your weight was funny. But this article convinced me to maybe give Wii Fit a try, especially if it works.
kupoporo
brent_w
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Archaotic: Sumo?
brent_w
topaz420
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@tslothrop:
Have you tried acupuncture? I was having the same problem (one hand completely dead -- I could hit it on a table and not feel a thing).
Since my sessions (only 3-5 of them) it has been nearly eliminated (though I use a Wacom tablet instead of a mouse just for safety's sake).
PM me if you'd like to talk more about it, there are many solutions.
Be well
topaz420
RanChan03
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
hmm can't wait for this to come out, i had my doubts earlier. After reading this review, and looking at the results, it'll be something nice to add to my exercise routine
RanChan03
Odin
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Best to weigh yourself after you've been to the little boys room, gives you a better idea of what the actual weight of your body is and not crap that's being processed by your digestive system.
Odin
comedy
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
i always find that if i do exercise it's made way more tiring (and in my mind that means much better) if i wear my ankle and wrist weights. that would also confuse the wii, hiding my true weight from it...
honestly i don't want wii fit to cost a lot, if it's about 30 quid all told i might get it. if it's 50 then go to hell.
interesting article, i sympathise with the 'pre-wii' sentiment, and can see myself enjoying some wii-fit. but for how long?
comedy
KM91
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz: Who's the noob?
KM91
Grumps
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I put my computer on a high shelf so I have to stand to use it. I'm 6' 160 lbs
Grumps
edb87
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz: There's a penguin on these boards. Has a biiiiiig hammer. He should show it to you sometime.
You were 5'11 and 177? Wow, that makes me feel really bad. I'm 5'11 and 250. :-/
edb87
ThisCharmingMan
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Really enjoyable feature, Bash! I still don't know if I can SPARE the weight I might lose while playing this. I'm at 6'2 and 130lbs, by the way. I wish I could use it to gain weight. Thing I learned: Start shopping at Japanese boutiques...maybe then I'll find jeans that FIT me so I can stop having to go through the embarrassing task of trying on girls jeans.
ThisCharmingMan
DerrickDS
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I'm tempted to get Wii Fit to compliment my new workout routine. I've lost close to 20 pounds in 2 months running and weight training, but the balance board exercises like yoga and whatnot would compliment my routine nicely, IMO. Then I could use the Wii Fit board to see my progress.
Plus, I'm sure my gf will probably use it too... since she is into that kind of stuff.
The more I think about it... Day 1 purchase for me.
DerrickDS
SpootCaz
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@sqwarlock: It is according to the BMI standard, which is less of a way to judge health and acceptable weight and more of a useless math equation invented in the mid 1800s.
[en.wikipedia.org]
SpootCaz
NeoAkira
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@hungry_for_worms :
To be fair swimming does have some impact on your joints, it is just minimal compared to running. But yes, swimming is a much more effective exercise than running, especially in heated pools. Best part about swimming: Tones you down and builds lean muscle. Running can actually reduce muscle mass.
Thanks for the review Bash, it was interesting to read your take on WiiFit. I think I may just buy it for the muscle exercises and the yoga part.
NeoAkira
vanderblade
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@sqwarlock: I know. That's my exact height and right around what I weigh. Thanks, Ashcraft. Now I'm going to cut myself.
No, but he's right. It is slightly overweight. The beer, though. The beer.
vanderblade
Cruithne
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Ashcraft, brilliantly written piece, just reminds me of why I choose this site over so many others.
I'm still havering over whether or not to buy this thing though, I should probably just save the money and get out on my bicycle more often.
Cruithne
hungry_for_worms
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Tyber_Zann:
go where old folks swim if you dont want kids bothering you. hospital where i work has a rehab pool so i just swim there :)
last tim ei swam in a public pool the place had to close cause some idiot took her baby in the pool and it dumped all over X_X i was out of the water though so.
hungry_for_worms
TheEternalCowboy
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
No cheesecake photos of you shirtless and flexing to show your progress, like in those fitness infomercials?
Disappointing!
TheEternalCowboy
SHiZZAM
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz:
Why are you here?
SHiZZAM
Shiryu
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Setzer IIDX: Back to the Future 2 : The Game!
Im more interested on '1080 Snowboarding Wii', tought (if they ever make it). 'SSX Blur' is one mighty fine game, too.
Shiryu
baked ham
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@kingclip: I agree. It's like the Gonzo journalism of videogame criticism. He put himself in the review, and I think that's important when reviewing something that's all about one's personal experience of fun.
baked ham
wisconsinista
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
America truly needs something, too bad this may not be it. We're so effin fat its pathetic. We eat just to eat.
wisconsinista
greeble
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
If he weighed 130 at 5'11" then he must have a fairly slight frame. So I suppose 177 for him would be fat. (even though its not by American standards) For those of us with larger frames (Broad shoulders, large chest, etc) 177 wouldn't be considered fat by most people.
greeble
gamadaya
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz:
Awesome. Way to fail. I can just see the ban hammer coming down, full strength.
@Setzer IIDX:
I know. I don't understand the Wii Fit craze. I always though DDR would be WAY better for losing weight.
gamadaya
Tyber_Zann
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@hungry_for_worms:
Cool, thanks for the input bud.
I like swimming a lot anyway, but I never do it anymore cause the damn kids at the local pool piss me off.
I guess its time to go to the local rec center and pay for a more civilized swimming experience!
Tyber_Zann
kingclip
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Man, I'd kill for all video game review to be this well written and interesting. People should take a lesson from this.
kingclip
Setzer IIDX
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Shiryu: Looks more gimmicky to me. Idea itself is solid, but a lot of these wii games need to get fleshed out. It's been a year now.
On the other hand, possible good title- "SSX: Wii R Tricky" a remake of the classic for the Wii and balance board compatible is a possibility. Use the board to steer/change speed and the wiimote for tricks.
Setzer IIDX
sugarbear
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
heh. i weighed 132 lbs and jumped to 180 after I got married. and i'm only 5'7". i recently dropped down to a respectable 164, but i'm still excited for WiiFit!
sugarbear
Shiryu
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Archaotic: Oh... I can't let that one fly and do nothing about it:
[upload.wikimedia.org]
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Shiryu
Playstation
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
when is this thing out in the US?
Playstation
tslothrop
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
If Nintendo is going to be venturing into these sorts of games/devices, they really need to get a better team of ergonomists to test and develop their devices.
Like your knee pain, Bash, I've never been able to play my DS for more than about an hour or so. Anything longer than that, and BOTH hands suddenly go numb for a considerable period of time. I've basically retired the thing as I'm worried about some sort of carpal tunnel setting in.
tslothrop
romBox
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
This thing seems pretty cool...even if all you do with it is track your progress. Also, that Yoga stuff seems interesting.
@Archaotic:
You've never seen a Sumo Wrestler?
romBox
NotAZombie
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Well I'm 5'11 and 190 but I'm nowhere near fat. Then again my upper body is very large for someone who is 5'11. Great read though Ash.
@Cheezburgerz: Welcome to Ban Town. Population you (and everyone else who posts "first").
NotAZombie
Sundermania
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I couldn't be less excited about something than this.
Sundermania
baked ham
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Sounds like something I want.
I used to be a vegetarian and a bigtime exercise fanatic. Then my life got incredibly busy and I didn't have time to cook, so I just eat whatever my wife serves me, which is invariably unhealthy but delicious. I also rarely exercise anymore, and I'd like to get back into it, so it'd be cool to have this as a record of my progress, and some of it indeed sounds kind of fun, which is of course a bonus.
baked ham
Archaotic
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@sqwarlock:
Maybe they're gonna re-calibrate the Balance Board or the software for Americans, who do generally have different body types than the Japanese. He is playing the Japanese version of the game, after all.
...come to think of it, I've never seen a fat Japanese person.
Archaotic
nxp3
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Man...it might work slightly, but there's no way you can loose weight by moving on that board. Most likely a coincident that it happend because you are aware of it. It makes you aware and you do other things that helped you loose weight. So it does do a good job of making you aware, but not so with your weight.
nxp3
Shiryu
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Setzer IIDX: Im quite convinced by Namco's "Family Sky"...
Shiryu
hungry_for_worms
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Tyber_Zann:
go swimming instead of walking
swimming has now impact on the joints(walking does) and you burn way more calories swimming. better for your knees.
hungry_for_worms
topaz420
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
130 lbs is scary dude!
Sounds like good fun -- too bad I sold my Wii a while back.
The only gaming exercise I get these days is PumpItUp-PC, and playing Rock Band drums with weighted drum sticks.
Went from 225 to 165 in one year (6'1") -- I miss food.
topaz420
Tyber_Zann
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
*looks at first post*
Hey Witz, another sacrifice to the banhammer. IT CRAVES BLOOD!
Great write up Bash! I still don't own a Wii yet, but I'd love to get this when I do.
I'm tired of being overweight and exhausted all the time, and I'm about to take up powerwalking myself. With a previous torn ACL, its about all I can do :(
Tyber_Zann
InEffectMode
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@InEffectMode: balance board i mean
InEffectMode
InEffectMode
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz: Witzbold, please...
-----
I need to go try this at my cousin's house, but at nearly 200lbs., i don't think it's safe... is it ???
InEffectMode
will
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Your Mii looks exactly like my Mii!
will
Setzer IIDX
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I'll keep my DDR kthx.
I just still don't get it. I have a scale in my house, I don't need a balance board to do yoga, and if I want video game exercise fun, I'll get DDR. Or even Wii DDR to work out my arms.
To me, this will always be the biggest consumer trap I've ever seen. Unless they come out with new games for it, then I MAY change my mind.
Setzer IIDX
shadymilkman
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
^^ look at the picture, or read the article, dont post useless comments.
liked the review, and in depth analysis reflective of the time you put into it, and the satisfaction there in. i liked the quotes. excellent entry!
thanks.
shadymilkman
hungry_for_worms
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@sqwarlock:
it depends. if theres no/very little muscle mass then yes the person may be "fat"
with some muscle mass thats about the right weight for that height
hungry_for_worms
dinosaur
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Did you lose any weight?
dinosaur
hungry_for_worms
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
nice that it works but like you said its not for everyone.
i know my workout routine can never be replicated by the wii(alternating days of 5 mile swim in a pool, heavy weights low rep, low weight high reps then a 1 day break to recover)
hungry_for_worms
Hitokiri151
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
That's cool if it works.. I'd probably buy it though I'd have to hide it whenever anyone came over
Hitokiri151
Absent Blue
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I've been looking forward to this, I think it might help me actually get off my ass and do something when I see the numbers. I mean hell, if my video games are telling me I need to get out more then I know I could use it.
Absent Blue
sqwarlock
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
177 is fat for 5' 11"? The hell?
sqwarlock
manjikengo
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
@Cheezburgerz: Yeah, Welcome to being Banninated.
Yeah Bashcraft..little things like this are astonishing.
manjikengo
crazyrabbits
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
I'll have to try this out. Anything to get off the couch at night and do some leg exercises.
crazyrabbits
Shiryu
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Thansk for your (literal)hard work and insight into the product, BAshcraft. It's rather refreshing to hear an unbiased, truly hands-on opinion of Wii Fit instead of the general "I hate non games" trend that going around.
Day #1 Purchase (Even at 90 €uros...)
Shiryu
smitty1123
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
Well, that's pretty cool. I'll wind up picking it up, but I'm actually way more interested to see what WiiWare titles utilize it (I really want a foot controlled version of Breakout).
smitty1123
Cheezburgerz
Posted 8:21 PM 3/3/08
first comment pwnd you nubs
Cheezburgerz
SteveVenezia
Posted 5:25 AM 6/3/08
One thing that would worry me about the weighing-in is that muscle actually weighs more than fat. So if you're bulking up would it tell you you're just getting fat? It would be quite demoralising if you're working your bunions off and the game is telling you you're a slob.
SteveVenezia
L_K_M
Posted 5:25 AM 6/3/08
So why don't you just go out and go jogging instead of buying Wii Fit? Well, because I don't! I'm a gamer. I need some kind of feedback that triggers my gaming senses. Some kind of achievement above "I went jogging for 30 minutes today." If Wii Fit provides that, it'll be the difference between doing something and doing nothing.
L_K_M
TrekVogel
Posted 5:25 AM 6/3/08
I'm kind of interested but it's rather expensive. I am supermodel thin, like you put it so nicely, so I don't need it for that. It just seems like a fun way of working out and mostly making you aware of the need to do something active.
I hope I'll be able to try it when it launches. Then I might actually buy it.
TrekVogel
ckhapa
Posted 5:25 AM 6/3/08
I am excited about wiifit, but I wonder if it is for me. At 6 foot 220 pounds (I lift everyday) I figure it will consistently register me as "fat" no matter what my fitness and bodyfat levels are. BMI would have been a helpful inclusion....
ckhapa