lucas would put his cash cow starwars on bluray before indy...but still DVD? what is this, 2002?

zwick78

I have been struggling with the age question myself - I showed my 5-year-old the opening scene from the Lost Ark, keeping a close eye on his reaction. The impaled guide on the way out of the temple freaked him a bit, and he didn't want to watch any more. As much as I would love to watch this with him, I don't think he's ready for it.

I have been watching the 'Young Indiana Jones' series, and would love to have him watch some of these as well, but they have the same type of issues - 95% great, but always a few things that are too mature for a younger child. As far a being 'racy', Lucas has a 10-year-olds understanding of male-female relationships, so that's usually not too much of an issue with his stuff for older kids.

You definitely need to be careful - it is hard to predict what images and situations will stick in a child's head. Think back you when you were a kid and what things that seem silly now haunted you then...

the3furies

Since when did "Raiders of the Lost Ark" become "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark"?

skinman

Also you guys suck, The Last Crusade was great :(

Norellicus

You guys are really messed up about the definition of 'racy' if you're comparing to movies like Jurassic Park and The Matrix. xD

As far as actually being racy (or risqué if you prefer), there's a minor amount of innuendo and a few cases of a long kiss, but nothing graphic or prolonged.

Violence is your average fistfights of the day. It's done tastefully, not gratuitously, so I think most responsible kids over the age of 7 could take it.

In each of the movies though there is at least one case of "disturbing images" as has been mentioned; melting faces/angel of death in Raiders, ripping a beating heart out of someone's chest/general crazy voodoo guy in Temple, and hyper-aging/decapitation in Crusade.

Everybody's kid is different so I can't put a good thumb on age, but those are the key points I can think of that might mess with a little kid's head (also the points I remember my parents saying "don't watch" over when I first saw them).

Norellicus

I watched Star Wars (originals) at about 5-7, Jurassic Park at the same time, and the Indy films shortly after. They're all on a level of 'racy-ness', I feel. By about 12 I think I watched the Matrix and thought myself very mature.

Pombar

I bent last time when they re-released the Star Wars trilogy with the theatrical "untouched" version, but adding an Indy game demo to a trilogy I already have isn't going to cut it for me. Unless they recreate THE ENTIRE MOVIE in lego, I'm not going to bite.

I'd rather use that money to get the Indy 12". It's purty.

boopadoo

I started watching these movies when I was seven in '88 I believe. Then I rewatched them years later and picked up on tons of stuff that I totally didnt remember in the original. Great movies, I think a good age to watch them would be seven.

TimO777

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Tyle-Shananigin

@Sollus: just sell all your dvds. thats what i did. i had like a 200+ dvd collection and i just traded them into GameStop/Moviestop and got like close to 400 dollars for them. Then i got me a PS3 and now im starting my Blu Ray collection. Although i still kept all my animated shit on DVD and my james bond boxset, indy box set, 3 special edition LOTRs and Death Proof and Planet Terror. So if these Indys arnt coming on Blu Ray then i dont know why they are even releasing them

ArmyofJuan

Hey Brian I dont think you should feel that they are to racy for your son. They are classic films, hell I watched them when I was a kid. Plan to show my kids one day as well. Just dont put to much focus on the crazy parts, but more on the whole fun of the movie experience and it's fun. :)

Samicham85

@ryohazuki: I thought she yelled "ALARM!"

I have the series on DVD but i think i would buy them again when they come packaged with the 4th movie.

Ra on the Moon.

where is this new indy collection? i don't see it on amazon:(

feartheraven

I remember taking my little sister to see the first movie (she was 9 at the time), and she loved it. Nothing I would call inappropriate (certainly not of a sexual nature). She has the set already (her favorite being the 3rd one), so I doubt if she'd want a new set. I, on the other hand...

relic1980

Just my opinion, but Last Crusade was an abomination, just like Return of the Jedi. The first movie was a classic for all time, and it's been steadily downhill from there. Last Crusade was like a damn Road Runner cartoon.

That being said, if the price is right the Lego game will probably be fairly fun.

Sherlock_the_Barbarian

My family's first VHS cassette was Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade because it came with our first VCR, purchased in 1990. I would have been around 5 years old at the time. I have fond memories of that movie -- I used to watch it on Sick Days in kindergarten, 1st grade, and 2nd grade. Sure, there was a lot of stuff I didn't understand at the time (like, I thought Hitler was just a big Nazi general, not the leader of the Nazis, and I thought the woman was screaming "ALLAH!", not "ALLIES!", when she sees Indy and his dad in the secret control room), but the movie was fine. The one part I never liked as a kid (and still dislike to this day) is when the villain turns into the Cryptkeeper because of "he chose ... poorly." I used to shut my eyes and, because I watched the movie so many times, open them based on sound clues.

I think children today would only be so lucky if their first Blu-Ray DVD was an Indiana Jones movie. It's really too bad I can't say "first DVD" since the format's been out for so long it would be weird for a family to be getting their first DVD player today. Still, if it's a question of appropriateness for kids, I think the Indiana Jones movies are fine.

Then again, this is coming from a guy who got Terminator 2: Judgment Day for his 8th birthday, so ...

ryohazuki

Release Star Wars and Indy on Blu-Ray Lucas. I'm not buying the DVD's again.

DigitalHero

@Erwin: "...All that and it should still be okay. It's all lighthearted really."
 
Man... i'm laughing my ass off at that. Thanks, that made my day.

dv8godd

I remember the beginning of the first movie scaring me when I was a kid, I would have been 6. Also the scene where they guy gets Chopped up in the airplane propeller was gruesome.
Wait a while before showing the movie to him. I just let my 6 year old watch the first Star Wars movie (Episode IV). It'll be awhile before Indiana Jones.

Kinburn

As was hinted above, Temple of Doom is the reason that PG-13 was invented. The heart scenes are pretty intense.

The first one is pretty tame except for the ending - I'm not going to show it to my son until he's at least 7-8.

The third one I only watched once; it bored me when it was released (I was probably 17-18) and I've never plucked it out of the last DVD boxset to rewatch.

Gamewatcher at Busy Gamer News

I remember seeing Star Wars when I was 3 in the drive in and my brother thought I might find Vader scary. I loved Vader but Chewbacca scared the beejeezus out of me.

Oh yeah, I saw Raiders at 6, Temple of Doom at 10, and Last Crusade at 14, and I wasn't particularly freaked out by any of them.

Karlott

Wow, that sucks.

No joke, I literally bought the 4 Disc Special Edition of Indy today.

I always get gipped!!

Scottendo

I'm not buying Indiana Jones again until it's on Blu-ray ... that said, I think it's pretty cool that they're including the demo.

jayntampa

@Sloopydrew: I'm gonna guess, they digitally edited the movies to further nerf them for younger viewers, ala Spielberg's maiming of ET? I just hope that the results aren't similar to that episode of South Park...;)

Yeah, but in general as somebody who's worked selling DVDs in the past (not currently, got a "real" job hehe) this is not only common but I agree somewhat despicable, to rerelease movies like this in DVD...at least wait and do it on a "next-Gen" format so you can have a better excuse to ream us! You don't get to do it over and over again on one format, thats just excess greed at its worst.

I'd also agree that 8-10 is the minimum age for the Indy movies, and honestly I'd put Temple of Doom at least in the 12+ range, as hard as it is to just watch 1, 3 and 4 and wait years for 2 it may be best, as IMO nothing in the other movies (of course I'm just speculating on 4) is as frightening as the stuff in the last half of 2. It still freaks me out a bit, not because I'm still scared of it but because I remember how much it freaked me out when I saw it at 8 years old!

DaiMacculate

About the age, you need to be careful. If your kid is the right age, Indy will be an adventure he will treasure for years to come, too young and he will be scared and not want to watch again until the magic of it will not register any more. I would say when the movie came-out 9-10 would be a lower limit, but kids these days are exposed to more so you may be able to get away with 7-8. Do keep in mind though that Raiders was originally going to be rated R. They obscured some of the exploding faces with superimposed fire and were able to get a PG rating. Of course back then there was no PG-13 rating.

But just recall the opening sequence of Raiders. There are two impaled bodies, one fellow with arrows in the back, and lots of tarantulas just in the first seven minutes or so. I am going to wait until my son is at least 7, I think I was 10. Just play the video games and the new Lego sets with him for now.

mzs

@Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB: If you read the article, it doesn't specify what platform the demo is for.

Stormrider

Oh yeah, I already have the trilogy too. Damn.
@NutManIV: That demo was so weird. The grsphics are totally different from the finished product, yet they both came out within a week of each other.
@Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB: I need to see this video then.

Erwin

You're right, you have to rewatch them all over again, just to be sure they censored out the Nazi's. Forget playing the demo before your kid, you know they're aren't any in there.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

Sweet. I don't think I have these on DVD, so this would be a great time to pick them up. Thanks for pointing this out, Crecente.

armchairnixon: wishes he had Xbox Live...

Indy should be watched as early as possible, it will instill a deep loathing of Nazis, and a healthy respect for stubble, firearms, and BIGFUCKINGROCKSOMG

kromekoran

Depends on how you feel about hearts being torn out, Nazis, and melting faces, I guess. Harrison Ford is such a badass.

Stormrider

Hmmm...So your kid is already a hardcore gamer.
And you're worried about him being offended by a PG-13 movie?
And can anybody remember this? Back during the Kotaku v. Gizmodo Halo 3 matches I remember watching the Justing TV thing. Didn't Crecente say Tristan said "Kick their fucking asses."? Or did I just imagine that whole video?

I think he's pretty mature for his age. I think he can handle them.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

Questionable content:
Raiders:
Ghosts, exploding faces, melting faces, sucked in faces, suggestive kissing scene ("where does it hurt?"), uncomfortable teacher/student relationships
Temple:
Heart grabbing, breast grabbing, child abuse, gross dinner scene, "Anything Goes"
Last Crusade:
Disintegrating person, beheading, gunshot wound, Hitler cameo, additional cults
All that and it should still be okay. It's all lighthearted really.

Erwin

@Snappywave:

Exactly. I won't rebuy any of my current DVDs in Blu Ray but I will not buy any new movies that I don't have in DVD any longer.

Sollus

Nothing new actually. I remember the Star wars trilogy DVD collection came with an Xbox demo of Star wars battlefront on one of the discs.

NutManIV

no blu ray no buy

Snappywave

I'd say all 3 Indy movies are just fine, though Temple of Doom might scare the crap out of him. But scary and inappropriate aren't the same thing.

Spiffyness

But... but... I already own the box set. I just watched them all again 3 weeks ago. Now I have to buy them again? Sigh.
 
Oh, and Crecente... I saw the first one at age 9 in the theater. Star Wars, I was 6 and every kid I knew saw that too, and it's really not much different on the "violence / racy" scale, I wouldn't say.
 
Maybe those were different times, but PG used to mean it was generally fine as long as the parent was there to provide context if needed. Temple of Doom was the first PG-13 movie... though I've never really been able to figure out why. Indy just punches Nazis and evil demigod worshipers... and those guys are supposed to get punched.

dv8godd

@crecente: Too racy!? I saw fucking Alien when I was two. Two! And I'm totally fine. Granted, I did live the next 6 years of my life in constant fear that an alien was going to pop out of my stomach because I was too little to understand you needed to have one put in you in order for one to come out, but c'mon. Actually, that probably wasn't my parents' best decision.

gamadaya

Indiana Jones isn't racy, unless your son is really young. I thin I was about 10 when my father watched Raiders with me, and I'm well adjusted. At least, I like treasure and hate Nazis.

MajorMcMuffin

Raiders was the first movie my parents ever took me to.
Just cover their eyes during the face-melting,
and they should be okay.

empathogen

@fauxgodzilla:

That was before PG-13 was around... The Indiana movies were part of the reason behind its creation.

I'd definitely skip Temple of Doom. Heart grabbing is too scary imo. Raiders is okay except for the EXPLODING FACES.

Hiro0015

I must be the only one who thinks Lego videogames should come with free Lego pack-ins. Like a scene from an Indiana Jones movie that you build, that is what should come with the video game. But I guess that's too crazy, Lego's coming with a Lego video game.

MCWHAMMER

I'm pretty sure they're all rated PG (in the US)

fauxgodzilla

@crecente

I saw Raiders at the theater when I was 9. Temple of Doom at 12. They both scared the crap out of me. Not "racy" but if they were released today, the gore level of both movies would guarantee them an R rating. Still, I wouldn't deprive your son the greatest adventure movies of all time just over a few melting faces and hearts ripped from chests. But I would wait until he's at least 8 years old to show him this stuff as it does get pretty graphic.

Sloopydrew

I saw them when I was five. And I'm not fucked up.
...I hope.

So, how will these demos work? Are the Ps2 compatible only? Will the work on the 360, Ps3, Wii?

Well, not the Wii, no DvD playback, but how about the others? Which ones will be compatible?

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

oh, "has yet been clarified"

Ahsayuni

WHERE IS THE F'ING BLU-RAY????

Mr.SithNinja

What??? I already bought the Indy trilogy on DVD. Is there anything special with these "special editions" or is this just double-dipping at its worst? No way would I buy the trilogy again just to play Lego Indy -- as much as I want to play Lego Indy.

Sloopydrew

Well, Crecente, I first saw the Indy movies at 10 and was OK, but it's really up to you.

MasonL87

too racy? Indiana? Maybe I havent seem them in a while either but I dont remember them being "Racy"

illegalprelude

what system?

Ahsayuni

rated R??? maybe pg-13 but I don't think an r rating, there isn't even any swearing(as far as I remember). I do agree the way society is now it would probably be an r, all that violence you know!!!!???!?!?!?

freespeech

Screw the system. What proof? I want something more official than AT claiming that two companies (neither of which seems to have anything listed on their websites about this) have both "announced" an upcoming Indiana Jones SE box set. Not because I don't believe them, mind you, but because I want to find out what _besides_ the game demo will be different with this version over the one I've already got sitting on my shelf. If it's just the demo, I'll probably pass (I've got a dollar that says it won't be a PC demo, which means it'll be useless for me).

Purple Dave

Well, do you think he'd want to watch them?
What has he watched that has a similar level of 'racyness'?

Zeouterlimits