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Microsoft: 42% Of Your Next-gen Monies Are Belong To Us
Posted by Michael McWhertor at 12:41 PM on March 11, 2008
Microsoft's VP of Interactive Entertainment for Europe Chris Lewis whipped out the PR rod today, boasting of a few new and carefully chosen figures in the typical marketing fashion. According to Lewis, Microsoft has snatched up "42 per cent revenue share of next gen-games market", factoring in hardware, software and accessories. That figure also includes Live subscription fees and accessories fortunately not available on other consoles—good for revenue showboating, but not so much for apples-to-apples dick waving contests.
In addition to that 42% slice of the "next gen" revenue pie, Microsoft says that the install base for 360s is at 17.7 million, a figure it actually announced back in January. We await the exciting counter-statements from Sony and Nintendo, who will hopefully give us "4D games revenue" and "new gen games revenue" with a little "game 3.0" and "blue ocean market segmentation" thrown in.

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Gelatine Cow
Posted March 11, 2008 2:44 PM
Shouldn't the graphic be around the other way? 42% is LESS THAN half.
RaYdeX
Posted March 12, 2008 10:03 AM
I thought the very same thing Gelatine Cow ?!?!?
And I'm kind of over all this "dick waving" as it was put.. I mean, the Xbox brand has come out of nowhere, and really driven forward the whole console gaming market, with Sony and Nintendo's help of course. What I mean to say is that all the healthy competition has been a wonderful thing for us gamers.
The fact that MS actually, generally seem to be doing something right (RRoD no withstanding), and Sony have had nothing but major fuck-up after major fuck-up for years.. well I think it's taking some people some time to get used to.
jgw
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
It's important to note that, as these are revenue figures, to-date revenues from the Xbox 360 console alone are going to be at least 40% higher than the Wii. Average cost of an Xbox is US$350 (across all units sold) while the Wii retails for US$250. At year-end 2007, cumulative worldwide console sales figures showed the Wii eking out a slim margin over the 360.
@zag011:
@Rectangle:
Gold subscription is US$60/year, there are 10 million Gold & Silver subscribers (Microsoft doesn't give specifics) but if Halo 3 has 1.2M unique players over the past 24 hours on more than 5M copies sold vs approximately 18M consoles sold, then it's not unreasonable to estimate anywhere between 25-50% of subscribers are Gold-level (especially taken into account yesterday was a Monday and also the CoD4 effect). This translates to annual revenue of US$300M - US$600M from Live subscriptions from 2007 and probably no more than $100M from 2006 (remember these are probably cumulative revenue figures). Also take into account that most subscriptions are annual and pre-paid, meaning everyone that has a subscription has already booked revenue for Microsoft, even if they purchased it yesterday and won't do so for another year.
@WolvenOne:
I agree with a great majority of your post and would like to add some content/ask that you consider this as well.
Microsoft manufactures their own peripherals and the high sales rate shows that people are willing to purchase them. Microsoft's economists should be applauded for their implementation of basic price discrimination. Rechargability, Blu-Ray and integrated Wi-Fi are priced into the cost of the other consoles. As evidenced by their multiple SKUs, Microsoft is attempting to target all tiers of the gaming market. People who purchase an Arcade pack aren't necessarily concerned with replacing batteries, but someone who has an Elite is probably more likely to purchase a Play 'N Charge Kit. This discrimination is also evident with the Wii's exclusion of the classic controller from their normal pack. Not everyone is going to be downloading VC games and wanting to play with a specialized controller.
That the other companies don't manufacture these as add-ons is irrelevant. They chose not to split their revenue streams like this. It was a strategic decision at the cost of economics (arguably loyalty and ease of adoption may pay dividends down the road, but the revenue is lost). It's apples-to-apples in the sense that the total Xbox hardware division includes Live and peripherals. It's not a perfect comparison (and I probably wouldn't use it to comp companies -- I'd try to carve out console sales), but by no means outrageous. Call their 2006 performance a first-to-market advantage.
I also applaud your recongition of the differences between revenue and income. This simple accounting fact seems to escape most people.
People seem to be discounting DLC. Looking at the sales figures, XBL dominates. The VC is a blip and Sony has some high-cost full downloads, but the larger 360 install base, 2x the attach rate vs Sony and ease of development (full SDK available vs lack of Sony support and nearly zero effort from Nintendo) combine to make the XBLA platform extremely robust. This success is only going to draw more developers who will be more comfortable investing larger budgets, thereby creating better games and further strengthening the XBLA's position.
This figure should be taken as a snapshot of total revenues booked to date. It is hardly an indication of recent momentum or future potential. As many have mentioned before, this is little more than chest-beating.
jgw
WolvenOne
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Okay, this number is likely influenced by a few different factors.
1: Price of accessories, controllers and peripherals. Microsoft brand accessories and controllers are really expensive, so not come with built in rechargeable batteries or recharge cables like the PS3 does, nor does the X-box 360 have built in Wi-Fi like most models of the PS3 and Wii.
This means people who primarily own Microsoft consoles are going to have to spend more money on accessories to get the same level of functionality out of their machines. Which is going to boost the amount of revenue Microsoft earns.
2: X-box Live. Yes it's already been pointed out that this only translates into something like 60 dollars a year. However that's sixty dollars a year, that, to most 360 owners, is a mandatory expense. I mean, seriously, so many 360 games are built around the multi-player, that very few people that own one are willing to go without the feature. Once again these functions are free for the Wii and PS3, so this is going to further inflate Microsoft's revenues.
3: Repairs and Replacements. This I actually consider a lesser factor, but the fact that the X-box 360 is so unreliable is still a factor. If it's off warranty and a 360 needs repairs, people will either be paying for the repairs, or buying a new X-box. Both of which would add to the amount of revenue Microsoft has.
Really, to be honest, revenue levels are not a good measuring stick for success. The classic measuring stick for console success is units and games sold. This is because these numbers are the hardest to manipulate, and are the most indicative of a machines success.
Sadly, Microsoft has been running from this measuring stick, and has instead been throwing out things like, 3rd party attach rates, and, total revenue. These are side-shows put on for the benefit of investors and fanboys. It's in no way shape or form, indicative of Microsoft's actual health.
Now, I like the 360, but their actual health is pretty poor right now. Their unit sales are down, Wii and PS3 game sales are quickly catching up to them, and the Wii will soon have more units sold in America.
Of course, Microsoft can turn things around, and a price cut would help. Ultimately though I think their biggest problem is niche-games that only appeal to hardcore gamers. I'm not sure Microsoft can, address this problem soon enough to make a difference though.
WolvenOne
TheFaze
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
The real 42%: The percentage of 360s failing. Hah!
TheFaze
Evil_Snow_Man
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@RFX: consider the remaining 58% is divided in two (PS3 + Wii) and 42 is a big number... See 2cd grade math book on how 42 > 58/2
Evil_Snow_Man
fuchikoma
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Right... so this must be USA stats, with XBL subscriptions and accessory sales, otherwise the Wii should top it handily.
I'll file this with "hardware problems? What hardware problems? The 360 doesn't scratch discs or fail!"
fuchikoma
DaiMacculate
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.:
MGS 4
MGS Online
I'm asking out of curiosity, has it been confirmed that these are 2 separate games? I was never clear if MGS-O was its own separate entity entirely or essentially an MP/MMO expansion to MGS4.
Other than that I mostly agree with everything you said, Wipeout HD and Resistance 2 alone will probably sell me a PS3 as soon as a sub-$400 bundle with either a good game or a good movie and DS3 is out.
DaiMacculate
GameraTheGreat
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Its amazing to me the effort people will go to in order to deride the 360. I guess MS must be the "King" if people will take personal measures to detract from its success and conduct free PR for Sony.
Honestly, the five games Striderhayasa just dutifully mentioned hold no interest for me...really. I have mentioned this before, but it boggles my mind that PS3 super-fanboys- enthusiasts -whatever you want to call them always post on these 360 threads. I actually have enough 360 news to read without having to keep an eye on the competition....I am glad you are happy with the PS3. I have been happy with my 360 since launch and I consider it a waste of time to draft something negative to post about Sony or the PS3.
Call this article spin or marketing research, bullshit or fact....it still remains that MS with the Xbox brand has done what few other companies have managed to do in the gaming industry....steal and maintain a very large part of the market share a prize that almost exclusively formerly belonged to Sony's monolith. As a gamer who acknowledges that competition is a good thing, I am very happy with the new lay of the land. A great many of us gamers with differing tastes than our religious-like Sony counterparts have chosen the WII and 360…get over it already.
GameraTheGreat
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@DARTH_TIGRIS: Division? We as gamers need to get off of this "rainbow love" mentality like we're supposed to love all consoles and all companies because the gaming gods say so. Companies lie....companies bend the truth, companies bullshit all in an effort to get our cash. THAT causes division. People that believe that RRoD is okay because MS will fix the console for free but can't seem to understand the concept that MS made a piece of shit console that shouldn't suffer from RRoD in the first place. Anyways, there are five games I can name right now that are going to kick so much ass on PS3 this year and would be great for 360 owners if these titles would go cross platform...
LittleBigPlanet
MGS 4
MGS Online
Resistance 2
Wipeout HD
You can take that to the bank dude. Even if you take E3 surprise announcements or end-of-year surprise announcements into account...MS would need a megaton announcement in order to stop the momentum that PS3 is gaining and stop the Wii freight train. Something along the lines of WoW for Live or StarCraft 2 exclusive to PC and 360. Wii is the only console I'm looking at to have a totally terrible end-of-line up unless Nintendo pulls some serious rabbits out of their hat. But it doesn't matter, Wii is still going to outsell 360. Which is really just sad when you think about it.
Between PSP and PS3, sony is gettings my monies. MS is the freckle faced stepchild that gets no love.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
aaron08
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Korbei: Well actually you can choose xp, vista or linux when you order a dell so whats your point?
aaron08
Korbei
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Wait a minute... Next-Gen revenue? Isnt "Next-Gen" pretty much defined by Xbox360, PS3 and PC?
Are they saying that with 2/3 next-gen platforms under their control, they dont even get half the market revenue? What is that smell?
Would someone please take down this article? Its far too confusing and obviously rank with bullshit.
Korbei
Korbei
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Basically what MS are saying here is: "Please. You're all being very silly. As you can see, we already have far too much of your precious, hard earned money. Please stop shoveling your wallets unto us. Take your girlfriend out to dinner for God's sake. Take a trip to another country. See the world! Save yourselves!
Your friends, Microsoft"
Korbei
zag011
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
$50 X 17,700,000 = $885,000,000
Humm and people think that $50 per year doesn't make much differance.
zag011
RuneX
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Evo:
Come on, the red ring problem is something that isnt really a problem anymore and how many people actually repurchased 360's? I know I just mailed mine in and it was back good as new in 7 days. Been working ever since.(which is almost 2 years if I recall) You cant even factor in the RRoD's anymore, its just a lingering thing that fanboys like to blurt out about. May as well be talking about how the NES had issues because you had to blow in the cartridge to make it play.
As for 2008's lineup, personally ive bought 3 360 games, 0 Wii titles and 0 PS3 titles this year so far.(which is way down from the normal 3-4+ games I used to buy each month.) I have 1 wii game im looking at this year(Tales of Symphonia 2), 0 PS3 titles(I dont like MGS, never have. LBP looks lame and cant see anything else that is platform specific worth my money) and maybe 3 or 4 360 titles.(Gears 2, the Tales game, and any multiplat game that might come around) Basically, by my personal tastes, the 360 has the best lineup this year, the Wii second, and then the PS3. Is this the case for all, nope, I am probably the minority. However, it just goes to show that we really cant say what console has the best lineup this year becuase of 2 factors, 1 the best lineup is determined by the individual, and 2, the games are not out yet to determine if they are actually worth the hype.
Oddly enough, I think Im looking more forward to seeing the cave shooters on xbla than I am any other game on any console, although the tales game on the 360 really has me intersted.
RuneX
FatalisticDread
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
You know, the funniest part of these comments are the rampant cries of "bullshit" or "yeah, if you pay MS $180 for a 120GB HDD or $99 for a wireless adapter, they are always gonna be on top".
How many of these people think that the new MacBook Air is a good piece of hardware? Shit, any iPod that isn't the most recent generation for that matter.
I haven't spent any money that I didn't WANT to spend on my 360. I went out and bought a 25' cat5 for my 360 for $15 or so...boom, it's online. I delete demos and random shit off of my 20GB HDD...I still have 11GB left of the original available 14GB or so. I buy my Xbox Live memberships at retail and they come with a headset, or a camera, or some free games, or some other thing that I might want. Buying their bundles gets you things you might not want to pay much for at a much lower price.
Not counting any DLC for any system, I own around 30 games for my 360, 3 games for my PS3, and about 10 games for my Wii. I have thousands invested in my video game collection and I don't make major bank...it's just what I decided to make my hobby. I've dealt with the RROD and was lucky enough to snag a used system on the cheap for the time it took for the return trip after repair...and then sell it to a friend to get the majority of that money back. I paid $50 for the HD-DVD add-on when it dropped a couple weeks back.
Everyone wants to cry and whine when their favorite system isn't considered "the best", but they defend the shortcomings of each system.
- To say that the PS3 sucks because it doesn't have games is wrong: the system is awesome, but the truly system-defining games are still a ways away.
- To say that the Wii is a fad is wrong because it has truly redefined the way we play video games. If it can revolutionize video gaming with little to no online play, no HD, and a glut of shitty games how can you argue that it isn't popular for a reason?
- To say that the X360 is a piece of shit because it doesn't have Wi-fi built in or because of the RROD is wrong because the system is a good system plagued with manufacturing/design flaws. MS's stance has ALWAYS been choice. Do you want wi-fi? Buy this. Do you want more HDD space? Buy this. Do you want a wireless headset? Buy this. Do you want none of this? Don't buy any of it.
Anyway, this is too long for most of you to read, but if my own collection of video games is any testament to the subject of this article...I believe it.
FatalisticDread
Evo
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Of course they get amount of money by suckering money people to re-purchased their RROD 360.
Evo
NeoAkira
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@reptile168:
uh, WiFi is included in the Wii and PS3 already. Ps3 has built in Blu-Ray, not a dead-video-format HD add-on. You can recharge PS3 remotes while they're connected. And the PS3 has a free online service (granted it's not as good as live, but it's gaining on it). I won't mention the Wii's online service cause let's face it, it's not really a service compared to PSN or Live.
So yes, it is Apples to Apples. Except you have to pay for the extra chunks of one Apple that are missing yet should have been included from the beginning.
While it's interesting that from "life-to-date" Microsoft has took in 40% of the revenue I would be more interested in seeing the net profit. I wonder how much more Nintendo has profited from the Wii in 1 year than Microsoft has off the 360 in two years.
NeoAkira
GoonieGooGoo
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Well this is a no brainer......all I had to do was look at current Gaming Shelf then add-in Online Game purchases to see that....
50+ XBOX 360 Games....42 XBL Arcade Games
7 PS3 Games......4 PSN Games
18 Wii Games.....12 VC Games
24+ PSP Games
12 Nintendo DS Games
GoonieGooGoo
DARTH_TIGRIS
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.:
"PS3 has a better 2008 library by far while it looks like MS shot their load last year. 360's 2008 line-up is not bad but it pales to the PS3's library"
Please, stop. Just stop. Right now all of the games coming in 2008 are just potential, not reality. We have no idea how these line-ups will turn out until years end after WE'VE PLAYED FINISHED VERSIONS. In fact, we don't even know for sure WHAT games will be released this year (MS, Nintendo and Sony all likely have surprises in store).
Its really time that we as gamers move beyond this kind of talk. It only causes divisions.
DARTH_TIGRIS
I_Hate_This_Place
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@weasl: "$50 a month for live...." Thank you for showing us you know nothing of which you speak.
I_Hate_This_Place
lionkitten
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@DARTH_TIGRIS: good point.
lionkitten
lionkitten
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Well there is spin here, but look at the software numbers every month. 360 does move software, for sure.
It will be interesting because in the next 18 months, announced software is Sony>MS>Wii or the exact opposite of sales. Course this is based on previews and suff. Who knows what the hidden gems will be. Something in all the Wii shovelware's got to be good.
and the war goes on.
lionkitten
reptile168
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Yes, microsoft is spinning.. just like Sony did for the entirety of 2006 and 2007.
reptile168
RaepGoblin
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Not apples to apples at all.
WiFi adapter, HD video player, play n' charge kit, wireless headset (made by Microsoft of course), and live subscriptions.
None of these things are sold by Nintendo or Sony.
RaepGoblin
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: posted too fast...
This sounds like a combination of sales figures and corporate spin. PS3 has a better 2008 library by far while it looks like MS shot their load last year. 360's 2008 line-up is not bad but it pales to the PS3's library, especially when more than a few 360s owners are still praying for some cross platform support from the PS3 library. With PS3 being instrumental in the format victory and MS talking about a possible blu-ray add on or even a rumored internal blu-ray drive (turning the 360 in a ps3 for all intents and purposes) and talk of yet another 360 sku and price cuts, all of a sudden 360 doesn't seem as strong as it once did. Shitastic consumer service as RRoD aren't helping.
It's like that kid that's about to get his tail kicked...he has to remind the two kids that are about to whoop his ass (and remind himself) that he was tough tony a year ago...
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Beware of the kid in the schoolyard that screams about all of the other kids he beat up in another school just as he's about to get his ass beat by two new kids on the block.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
PaulHunter
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
So Microsoft launched a year ahead of the competitors and went from 100% next-gen market share down to 42% in only about 16 months? Yeah, that's impressive. Considering Wii is outselling Xbox by as much as 3-to-1 on a weekly basis, and the PS3 has been outselling the Xbox by about 40,000 units weekly since January, I guess Microsoft won't have many figures to brag about soon. I bet in 12 months time this figure will be less than 35%, if that.
PaulHunter
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@TheDaftPunk:
Your Kotaku avatar is also a Mii, so the potential for Wii fanboyism is strong.
No intent to insult, mind you, just saying...
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@TheDaftPunk:
You really need to branch out! Claiming that the only good games on 360 are FPS's tempts me to call bullshit on you actually owning an Xbox. There are a lot of good games that aren't FPS's on 360, that aren't available on the Wii.
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
PirateThom
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
I think you have to remember, the 360 has a year headstart, an online subscription service and overpriced peripherals.
Any wonder it's at 42%?
PirateThom
Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Lanhoj: In January, Gamestop said Wii and PS3 were both at 5.
Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”
greeble
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
I'm not surprised. People like to buy software for the 360. Two reasons, achievements/gamer score, and Live. They see what their friends playing want to play the same game too. "Man everybody is playing game X. Game X doesn't look like something I'd normally like but gamertag a,b,c seem to play it alot (and are getting points for it! buy now)"
greeble
fearing
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Korbei: Well, if you ever buy a Blu-ray movie, some of that somewhere goes to microsoft as some program for the encoding, or somesuch technical thing that I know nothing about, is done with microsoft written software. Obviously you're not giving it to them directly, but the way things work nowadays part of everything spent goes to every major corporation everywhere somehow. :)
fearing
DARTH_TIGRIS
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Willows:
That's funny!
Hey, folks, this is impressive. So is the Wii's success. So is PS3's against-most-odds resurgence. Guess what THAT means? Everybody is doing pretty good. There is no loser.
I know that disappoints a lot of you, but its true. I know it means you can't pick a side without looking like a fanboy, but ..... hey, how about picking the side of GAMING against other media? Yeah, try that.
DARTH_TIGRIS
soul4sale
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
[mine.icanhascheezburger.com]
soul4sale
Sailorcancer
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Of course they can showboat.
A bunch of the stuff Microsoft makes you pay for, the Wii or PS3 does right out of the box.
Sailorcancer
TheDaftPunk
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Sherlock_the_Barbarian:
Eh, I own a Wii and a 360 and I have a few more games for the former, and they are all quality games. Same goes for the 360 games, ofcourse, great games - I just didn't feel like buying more than 2 of the many highly rated FPS's the 360 has to offer.
TheDaftPunk
Willows
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
i think the number 42 pretty much proves that they win at everything forever.
Willows
ManjiKengo
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Lanhoj:
I own more xbox 360 games right now than I EVER did ps2 games.
No joke.
ManjiKengo
ManjiKengo
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@RFX:
70% are towards wii and the other 23% are pstriples....
Yes, I'm aware the math does not add up.
ManjiKengo
Lanhoj
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
did anyone really doubt that 360 owners buy more games? c'mon. they have a 7 games / accessories attach-rate.
PS3 / Wii have what. 3? HA!
even great PS3 games struggle to hit the half-a-mil mark.
the install-base of the PS3 is growing and that of the Wii IS strong, but all the $ is in software sales, and that's where the 360 PWNs!
Lanhoj
okenny :)
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@spyker3292: You need a hug ...*hug*. It's going to be ok. You're going to be just fine! Don't ever let anyone say anything that will put out your flames of happiness. You are special and you can be sure that some one loves you very much! *hug*
okenny :)
spyker3292
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
That pie chart is showing over 50% not 42%...
spyker3292
Knight-Zero
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
I guess they didn't subtract Xbox 360 replacements (-39% Microsoft)
Knight-Zero
Kyle81
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Al2x: They are spinning numbers big time. They are including live subscriptions for christ sakes
Kyle81
Father-Time
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Adding to what I said before if you make the most revenue that could just mean that you charge too much in comparison to the other companies.
Father-Time
Al2x
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Uhhmm...Isn't this kind of bad? Microsoft is boasting that you spend the most money on the Xbox 360 out of all the consoles, while the PS3 is only a few million away (mind you a year's difference) and the Wii has sold almost 3 million more units.
This means people shovel money, apparently not on all things that are good, into Microsoft's revenue. I'm looking at overpriced accessories like you, you 20 and 120 GB harddrive, and you, you $100 WiFi adapter.
Al2x
VakeroRokero
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
next-gen only? that means the Wii is winning already... Wow...
VakeroRokero
Father-Time
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Remember boys and girls revenue does not equal profit.
Also it boasts your numbers quite a bit when you're the only console that charges money for online service.
Father-Time
Dir_en_grey
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@sUKi:
Hahaha good point =D
Counting out the Wii makes this number alot more believable.
Those PR guys are really pros at what they do =)
Dir_en_grey
Michael McWhertor
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@RFX: It should! I'll devote 42% more resources to paying attention to my labels in the future! :\
Michael McWhertor
Korbei
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
lol I havent given Microsoft a dime of my money since 2003 and only because you cant opt out of an OS choice when you order a Dell computer.
Im gonna see if I can hold out a solid 10 years without paying Microsoft anything. It seems like a lofty goal in this day and age.
Korbei
ShaggE
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@okenny :): You just about have to these days, lest you start yet another "zomg mai cunsoul is batter than urs lol nub" flamewar... :(
ShaggE
ErskinPig
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Nonsense. STFU MS.
ErskinPig
sUKi
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Timsobuff74:
It says "Next-gen"
sUKi
Lou3000
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Swarm19: It is probably correct. The 360 has sold the most consoles (in the US), has an high attach rate, and sells peripherals at insane markups. This may also include DLC, which the 360 is way ahead on.
Unfortunately for gamers, this sends a clear message to companies that gamers are willing to pay for peripherals that should be standard (WiFi, HDD, etc.) and also that we love to buy $60 games and then load up on DLC.
Either way, I gg download some more Rock Band tracks on my 360.
Lou3000
Timsobuff74
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
I guess the Wii had 50%. BURNED PS3
Timsobuff74
okenny :)
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Also... I love what this console war is doing to people. All these commenters hear justifying their opinions by flashing the fact that they have no bias. I almost want to say "I'm not an MS fanboy, I write a check to Feed the Children in the name of Sony and Nintendo every month". Give me a break, I'm not MS fanboy but I'll be damned if I have to own more than one console at a time to prove that shit!
... Oh yeah, one more thing... that guy who thinks I am... you caught me. maybe we can trade Pinatas someday when you own up to the fact that you've also played a "shitty" RARE game <3
...
What was I talking about again?... :(
okenny :)
Lstormy10
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Sherlock_the_Barbarian:
It is impressive, but without a doubt manipulated so that the number looks more impressive, but that is what companies do when it comes to PR.
@Rectangle:
But each membership adds up, so it still isn't a direct comparison to Sony and Nintendo as they both haven't charged anything for online services yet.
@RFX:
Hey wait a second, I think you are onto something...
Nintendo could always come out and say that they made :insert impressive percentage here: in profit as they are almost always making profit on everything they sale unlike Microsoft and Sony.
Lstormy10
Dir_en_grey
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Is this only in US or all over the world?
Every time a post saying that anything other than 360 is doing well, I'll see people just start assuming "yeah, they are just all bunch of Japanophiles". I find it funny the same people who thinks that don't think of them selves as "Microsoft-whores" or "Americaphiles" when this kind of 360 domination is only happening in US.
Even though I'm not anti 360, I'll bet you this "42% domination" is US only if it wasn't a lie to begin with.
Dir_en_grey
DaiMacculate
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Yeah, do I count as 1 360 or 2 (so far) since I got back a different serial number the last time and may the next? I'm waiting for it to come back from repair right now.
Also, no HitchHiker's guide to the Galaxy Joke Pic to go with this stat?
DaiMacculate
weasl
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
I'd like to see how much money the MS is making off of people own ignorance, like people paying 50$ a month for Live, ad revenue, and money that's in unspent live points limbo. I'm sure Live is a massive treasure trove of cash for them.
weasl
balls187
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
now if they could only make a product that wasn't utter crap...
see RROD
or this:
[gizmodo.com]
balls187
okenny :)
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
This dick waving is almost reminiscent of what they did last month in attempt to counter the fact that Sony bet them in January. I wonder if this is reactionary in that same vein?
Regardless, this is still good news and shows a healthy console market. I hope there's just enough of a sense of dread from Microsoft to keep them uncomfortable and competing. A little victory goes to their head just as much as the PS3 leading in the US for one month goes to a Sony Fanboy's head. Good stuff :)
okenny :)
Aethyr: Brawl. Add me.
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
It can't possibly be because the 360 came out almost a year before both the PS3 and the Wii. Nope, nowai.
Aethyr: Brawl. Add me.
Rectangle
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Lstormy10: "This amount of revenue can't have anything to do with Xbox Live memberships, now could it?"
Probably not much, actually. We are only talking about spending the equivalent of 1 Wii game a year on Live Gold.
Rectangle
prodld50
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
sorry about that
prodld50
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
@Lstormy10:
At the last E3, Microsoft was able to trumpet that over 70% of all videogaming dollars was spent on Xbox 360 (which amounted to games and accessories). Even if that included Live memberships, that's still impressive. Note: I'm not an Xbox fanboy, as I own multiple consoles.
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
RFX
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Shouldn't that graph be the opposite? 42% is still not a majority...
RFX
prodld50
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
if you had told me 6 years ago that not only would Microsoft be on top but also that I'd be supporting them, I wouldn't have believed you for a second.
prodld50
Swarm19
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Im curious to find out how big of a spin MS threw on this. It doesnt seem right at all.
Swarm19
Neopolitian
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
17.7 Million install base? Is that the exact number of XB360s that were manufactured? Uh...not all of those are still playing games... 10 million??
Neopolitian
prodld50
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
"dick-waving contests"...nice. But I have to admit, if you had told me 6 years ago that not only would Microsoft be on top, but also that I'd be supporting them. I'd have told you to fuck straight off.
prodld50
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
Take that, Wii bitches!
Just kidding. Regardless of who sells the most consoles, though, it's true that Microsoft is still the safer investment for third party game development. Xbox 360 owners buy many more games than Wii owners, overall.
It will be interesting to see how things develop as PS3 starts to sell better this year.
Sherlock_the_Barbarian
Lstormy10
Posted 10:38 PM 19/3/08
"apples-to-apples dick waving contests"
A new classic quote brought to you by Kotaku.
This amount of revenue can't have anything to do with Xbox Live memberships, now could it?
Lstormy10