third person shooter
Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ
Posted by Mike Fahey at 3:20 AM on March 12, 2008
While the press release for Ukraine developer Black Wing Foundation's new 3rd person shooter is a bit muddled, the website for the game paints a very interesting back story.
Year 2026. The World government resorted to stem cells and gene engineering to stage the Judgment Day. They created genetic replications of Christ and Antichrist and destroyed them right away in the course of events to set forth severe fundamentalism on Earth, propped by the idea of communicating with God via machines as well as by the army of cloned creatures, called Angels...Talk about your high concept! The game, in development for the Xbox 360 and PC using Valve's Source Engine, puts you in the role of three heroes fighting against a New Government run by technocrats watching over a sever linked-up to heaven, where crime can have you sentenced to virtual cybernetic hells designed to provide constant torment. As far as gameplay goes it's a mix of stealth and action with RPG elements wrapped around what promises to be a highly dramatic storyline. Hell, I'm sold on the concept alone. Check out the gallery for screens and concept arts from what promises to be a very interesting game indeed.
Salvation project. Official announcementPress-release. Kiev, 10.03.2008
Black Wing Foundation is glad to announce its Salvation project currently in development for PC and Xbox 360. The game, powered by Valve's Source Engine, is developed in cooperation with N-Game Studios.
Salvation is a third-person shooter game set in the near-future. The world government, making use of genetic engineering managed to successfully imitate the Judgement Day and establish new stiff rules - a new 'Regime'. World war and death of genetic replicants of Christ and Antichrist drastically changed the mindset of people. Now they are creatures without the right of opinion, they are slaves of the 'Regime'. An army of Angels, genetically cloned humans, are watchful of keeping the order. Any dissidence threatens either death or exile to Hell - a cybernetic virtual reality system, causing a human to suffer unbearably.
The main characters are people from various climes, with different past, but common present, united by one key idea and goal, the desire to topple down the new Regime, destroy the system of Hell and Paradise. To return peace and order to earth, revenge for themselves and their folks,... but accomplishing this is not easy, the forces are too unequal in this fight...
The path of the heroes lies through multiple challenges leading to the truth hidden in the lies of New Government. Taking up roles of Narumi Amano, a genetically modified assassin, Sergei Thor - captain of east European resistance cell and Alexander Geist - a rather cynical psy-powered smuggler, the player will play through seventeen missions grouped into seven episodes, ultimately defying lie and injustice.
Key game features
- Detailed atmosphere of cybernetic dystopia of the future inspired by such masterpieces as "1984", "Brand New World" and "Us"
- Diversified and various gameplay combining best elements of stealth, action and arcade in a totally new, exiting way
- Abut 20 original bosses, each with its own strategy and story
- Seven episodes, from Tokyo to London, combined into a great dramatic story
- High cinematics factor
- Use of multifunctional original weapons of the future
- Original but simple in use RPG system
- Usage of advanced licensed technologies, realistic physics, 5.1. Sound
- Technological and detailed graphics. Use of parallax and normal mapping, cinematic full-screen pixel shader effects, HDR lighting, dynamic light, shadows and more.
- Inverse kinematics
- Great soundtrack featuring live orchestra, licensed content and original materials
- 8 to 32 multiplayer mode, new areas, new weapons, ability to play for enemies and NPCs.
Visit the official web-site of Salvation project at www.bwf-game.com



















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jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@dadeisvenm: You're proving a flood happened...that's great...but it still doesn't give actual proof about Noah.
@champ24 vamp_24(psn): Do you know what one of the definitions for "Faith" is in the dictionary?
"belief that is not based on proof"
[dictionary.reference.com]
Contrary to what religious leaders say, there is nothing wrong with proof.
jago.kot
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Does Not Equal: again... cause and affect. trust me i wouldn't if i didn't need to. Much like this little back and forth.
dadeisvenm
Does Not Equal
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@dadeisvenm: There is a place for religion, man. Video games can be one of them; I own a legally-bought copy of The War In Heaven, which is a Christian FPS. A video-game discussion blog, however, really isn't.
(DoesNotEqualisnotaKotakumoderatorbuthedoesplayoneonTV)
Does Not Equal
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@DoesNotEqual: go ahead. when someone belittles you, i'll defend you as well if its warranted.
I'm guessing your comment isn't based on reading the thread and finding the context for my responses.
dadeisvenm
Does Not Equal
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@dadeisvenm: I'm gonna go find a Christian message board somewhere and start talking about video games.
Does Not Equal
champ24 vamp_24(psn)
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@jago.kot: " stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years."
Hence, the concept of FAITH. Duh.
champ24 vamp_24(psn)
bosintang
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
nothing wrong with believing in God, but thinking JC was just a real smart crafty guy ;)
Imagine if David Copperfield existed in those days~~
hocus pocus jiggly boo~~~
No one would have cared about 2nd rate JC when Copperfield made pyramids disappear haha, he'd have been just chopped liver~ haha
bosintang
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@jago.kot: "So says the fictional book called the "Bible" :-p" - jago.kot
Your own words betray you sir. You saying you're Catholic is even worst. Hate to breaking to you but If you don't believe in the accepted canons (The Bible) how can you be Christian? You may have been baptized as such when you were a baby or forced to got to church but sitting in the pews and taking the eucharist in vein doesn't make you Christian but it does mean your damning yourself. So you might want to stop until you actually believe. Otherwise its a mockery.
Lets continue. You say, Jesus himself may have been real...but all the SUPERNATURAL stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years.
Wow. Fascinating... I don't come across many "christians" who "kinda", "sorta" believe in Jesus. As for the "SUPERNATURAL stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years." it hasn't been DISPROVEN in the same allotted time. Science can't explain ghost, the purpose of life or the meaning of life. Science has yet to explain some aspects of evolution. For example some parts of the body DOES NOT evolve. The human eye is one such part. If the human eye is extremely different from the other animals, where did we come from or better yet "how and why" are we formed differently?
The Bible is the most scrutinized collection of literature in history. why has science been unable to disprove it? You mentioned Noah.... do you know that the Hebrew bible is not the only account of a global flood? [en.wikipedia.org]
dadeisvenm
jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Jesus himself may have been real...but all the SUPERNATURAL stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years.
Certain values in the Bible I have no problem...but some of them are just down right hypocritical and stupid (same goes for laws in general.)
I'm Catholic btw...but just b/c I am in no way means I have to be a mindless drone and believe what primitive man wrote in a book. Primitive man also had no logical understanding of things and thus would assume it was "mystical" or "from a god."
jago.kot
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@bosintang: The argument all started based on disparaging remarks made towards the Bible and Jesus Christ not by the makers of the game, but from kotaku members at other kotaku members.
To answer your question. Jesus is depicted as European just as he is depicted as Asian in Asian society. People see him as themselves. In truth he probably looked middle eastern (Pakistani, Afghani, etc.).
dadeisvenm
L_K_M
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Sounds interesting. Too bad it's going to be YAFPS.
L_K_M
KirbySS
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
"propped by the idea of communicating with God via machines"
y halo thar, Digital Devil Saga.
KirbySS
bosintang
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
it's funny a religious war starting up on this site over a game that's not even released yet.
can't wait for all the hoopla once it finally does, hehe
btw, for christian mythology savvy ppl talking here, i've always been curious about one thing though, why is JC always depicted white when I heard studies show he was black?
bosintang
Does Not Equal
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@dadeisvenm: Oh, I believe in Jesus the man. It's the paranormal stuff they can't prove.
Would make a killer game, though. Jesus starts with all his powers for the first section of the game, then gets stripped down and slowly regains them. Very Samus/Kratos/Altaïr.
Does Not Equal
Smadubaku
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Save me Jeebus!
They're using Kotaku to platform their religious beliefs!
Smadubaku
bosintang
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
i'm just hoping we get a double pistol wielding Jesus as the final boss, ala the movie promo from the Family Guy , JC 2 : Crucify This.
also, the cross on his back turns into a mega bazooka~!?!?
imagine the fun u can have blowing up Jesus's carcass again and again just as he keeps resurecting himself~~~, ala robot chicken.
good times.
moses as a mid boss?
i'm definately getting this game if the game play is half way descent.
can't wait till the crazy right wing church ppl hear about this game, haha
bosintang
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@jago.kot: values? How did they develop these "values"? Evil is a foreign concept in nature. How did man come to define evil unless they were told something was evil and how did they validate it? Again think before you post.
dadeisvenm
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@jago.kot: If the apostles are real, Peter, Paul, etc... which is documented fact, logic dictates Jesus it real. and so on and so on and so on. Read this. [en.wikipedia.org], if you still don't believe thats fine. Just learn to respect others before you post (or speak).
@DoesNotEqual: read above reply. Jesus is very real. If you call archaeological evidence fictional, those rose colored glasses must be stronger then you thought.
dadeisvenm
Does Not Equal
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@dadeisvenm: It's okay, we're all discussing fictional events and characters anyway. Some are just older than others.
Does Not Equal
jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Then show me the proof where all the "important" events of the bible are 100% legit. You know...like the Resurrection, Noah's Arc, Adam & Eve, etc.
US laws (and some laws in general) are based on values...not actual events (or STORIES) in the bible.
jago.kot
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@DoesNotEqual: No. He's quiet serious. As am I.
@jago.kot: If the Bible is fictional, then our laws (US) are based on fiction. If our laws are suggestive, then there is no such thing as good or evil. If chaos is the primer for all things, then life is meaningless.
That so-called "fictional" book is grounded with more truth and meaning then you can comprehend. Some level of decorum is warranted.
dadeisvenm
Does Not Equal
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Borathian: It's called "willing suspension of disbelief." If you can believe that a tech-armored supersoldier saves the galaxy from ringworld-borne destruction and that a sword-wielding hero can rescue a princess again and again (and again), then the plotline of Salvation shouldn't be much more of a stretch.
Does Not Equal
Borathian
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I don't get it, how do you clone Christ and the Antichrist if they haven't appeared yet in this world(meaning the game world)? that and the fact that I'm fairly sure no one but the real things would be able to do what the real ones are meant to do and all that.
Borathian
LordMagnusMastah
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Personally, I don't understand what peoples' gripe is with the Source engine. All Source games seem to look better to me and everyone I know a lot longer than most other graphics engines. And, like this game and Left 4 Dead should show us, the engine is capable of a whole hell of alot and Valve is gonna make it keep on growing.
As for the game itself, sounds like a kind of intrigueing story, but it could go either way (retarded or awesome).
LordMagnusMastah
Covenant
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
The concept seems to have been borrowed from this:
[www.amazon.com]
Pretty good story...certainly better than Left Behind...and I'm a total skeptic, so reading these was a bit of a stretch.
Covenant
EnragedTemplar
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@red07: according to the article it was a fake christ,
only the real can cause the apocalypse.
EnragedTemplar
EnragedTemplar
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
what about a, "In the year 2020 a young mastermind learns to build an efective process of flash cloning and cheap methodical military stlye hardware to be used in combat, winning a grant from congress he builds these prototypes of his and plans to show them to the cheifs of staff at a grand unveiling ceremony, at the event something goes purposely wrong, and the genius escapes while all of the heads of state are killed. He flees to greenland where over the next twenty years he uses his clones and technology to wipe greenland off the map and steal all of its natural resources. Trying to avoid another pointless war the U.S. is the last to join the war against these shadow forces in greenland, which began in 2023. The war rages till 2028, a great allaince force is built up along the southern half of greenland shores when the worlds military powers are decimated by small nukes. The remaining forces pull back to their resepctive countries, and are eventually overrun by shadow forces in the years following the failed invasion. The world falls under shadows control and for the next 30 years a great resistance is faught. This is where the game takes place, 1st person shooter, eventually you gather enough forces to push the shadows back, and they flee their last stand in four emense space ships which had been under construction since the beginning of the major invasion. Sequel!
EnragedTemplar
jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@red07: So says the fictional book called the "Bible" :-p
jago.kot
Does Not Equal
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@red07: You're joking, of course. I mean, only someone truly obsessed would post something like that in a video-game news blog and actually be serious about it.
That said, good one! Made me laugh.
Does Not Equal
Afore Notation
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Fucking awesome; hope they execute well.
Also, guys, its a little hard to call something pretentious whilst being a pretentious douche bag about it. I think there is a spot in cybernetic hell for hypocrites.
Afore Notation
red07
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Christ has died once. He won't do it again. The next time he comes back, he'll be the one doing the judging.
And only if you've been washed by his blood will he pass over you. Only if you're sins were taken at the cross will you be able to run into his loving arms.
Decide.
red07
dadeisvenm
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
So wait... You clone Jesus.... FROM WHAT!? A sock he left behind? and to top it off... The scientist know who the Antichrist is and kill him... clone him... then kill the clone?!
O_o
That is the dumbest plot I have ever heard. This is straight out a bad Sci-Fi TV production like "Mammothz". They should call it "Judgement Dayz Spoilarzz...God LOLZ".
dadeisvenm
pandafresh
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
one quick plot point, why did they need to clone jesus and anti-jesus? why not pay hobos off the street and strap em with TNT? get what im saying? but lets all way till some more info comes out, then we can judge better (although im sure i still wont like it)
pandafresh
Willows
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
"virtual cybernetic hells designed to provide constant torment"
here's to hoping that doesn't describe the final game...sounds interesting, though.
Willows
H8ff0000
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Was anyone else thinking Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future after they read that?
H8ff0000
kretinite
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
The concept has a lot of potential.. much more involved than the average shooter. Im a bit nervous about some of the desings though.. I mean the concept art is quite well drawn.. just not sure the design is quite there.. Needs another spell in the oven maybe?
kretinite
Coherent
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
This looks pretty interesting! Sounds like a more engaging version of Left Behind. If they can extract the awesomeness and forget the preachyness of the end of days, they could create a kick ass action game here, one that will make me take a look.
Coherent
Beelzebozo
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Um, to all you "This is Evangelion" people: Eva was about a group of people looking to prevent , or at least control, an actual Biblical Apocalypse. Real "angels", a real "Rapture", etc. This is about essentially an Illuminati-type group that uses superior technology to fake an Apocalypse, complete with genetically engineered main characters (Christ and Anti-Christ) who self-destruct at the end, so that they can say "OK, now is the Kingdom of Heaven and we're His agents and you will do what we say because it is God's will." And the bamboozled populous, that just lived through what looked, felt and sounded like the end of the world, all go "OK!"
It's not too hard to wrap your brain around.
Beelzebozo
misc.insanity
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Color me uninterested.
And as to the press release, it's BraVE New World, and no, it had nothing to do with cybernetics. Also I can't find anything about a book(?) titled Us.
misc.insanity
Jambolia
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I like the idea and the art-direction but i can't help but feel that the source engine just isn't that good an engine.
Jambolia
jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@jago.kot: Oops...I meant to say "fictional" instead of "non-fictional" ;-)
jago.kot
CFStang
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I wonder if this will go the way of the 3DO game about the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse a few years back. That looked like an awesome game until they canceled it.
CFStang
ZinkO: The Game (the kind you just lost)
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
this sounds kinda dumb. like matrix logic, woohoo. and I'd love to know why everyone thinks any Christian church would care about this.
ZinkO: The Game (the kind you just lost)
teh_joe
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
good thing it's not a videogame about Muhammad. then it really would be the end of times.
teh_joe
jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Xenogears was awesome...to this day I still stand by this statement:
Xenogears >>>> FF7
Don't get me wrong...I liked FF7, but I totally dig games, movies, etc. that take a CREATIVE technological twist to the whole non-fiction book called "The Bible" :-P
jago.kot
Desertwolf
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
The church complained about resistance, i wonder what their gonna say now? VIDEO GAMES COME FROM THE DEVIL TO HAUNT YOUR CHILDREN, BURN THEM, BURN THEM!
Desertwolf
InEffectMode
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
this might make me get an appropriate gaming PC, sounds great.
InEffectMode
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@inphanta: I don't know dude, I found that game pretty ridiculous. My tipping point was the scene when they crucified the giant robots... and Chu-Chu. At that point, I threw up my hands, said "FUCK THIS SHIT" and laugjhed myself to sleep. I haven't touched it since.
Of course, I think toastyfrog.com said it best a few years back, but I'll be damned if I can find the article on the site.
JustThisGuy
Grey_Fox
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Whether an anime has done it before or not this might actually be a good game.
Grey_Fox
JustThisGuy
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@tenken: Dude, the latency in heaven is nonexistent. It'd be a great server to play on if Jesus didn't win every match.
Really: every single time you bit the bullet in an online FPS? Jesus. Every PKer that stole all your loot? Jesus. Every time some 14 year-old taunted you, saying "pwned noob lol"? Jesus. Every Zerg rush ever performed? Korean Jesus. Headshot Doug? Canadian Jesus in disguise.
And lo, for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son mad micro, so that he mayest lay waste to noobs and campers, who are unholy unto Thine eyes. Boom. Headshot. Amen.
JustThisGuy
inphanta
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Remember Xenogears on the PS1? It did this sort of thing with far more intelligence.
inphanta
tei
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I think the idea is interesting. Theres like a "multiverse" of posible worlds to write tales, and use as lore for videogames. And there can be one "universes" where god fight agains/with angels and demons. It can make automatically for a RTS with 3 sides: humans, angels and demons. Maybe has been done before.
The thing about pyschopowers, clones, etc... is somewhat new wave, that is lame, but you have all the sci-books from silverberg, that are new wave, and RULES!, like the book "Open The Sky" that are really good, even with religion, and psychic powers stuff...
tei
jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I _LOVE_ how people always point the finger at the US as an "example"...despite the fact that birth of all major religions were on the other side of the world.
You're more likely to see total chaos break out over there where everyone is much closer together then in the US...although I won't deny that there are people here who would loose control.
jago.kot
WiNG
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Yeah I was going to make the "sounds like Eva" post also.
Hmmm, attempts to clone divinity in order to bring about the apocalypse? Check and CHECK.
WiNG
SnakeCL
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I see nothing wrong with the story idea or setting. Its a bloody paragraphy description. Anyone who's calling it an affront to gaming storylines needs to go read 4-sentence long story summaries of movies.
Even then, it seems people are misunderstanding the idea of the game. There were no Christ and Antichrist, they were created, and a mock apocalyptic battle was waged. The scary part is, this would probably work, at least in the US. Something like 70% (don't quote me on that, I just remember its a sickeningly high number) of all US citizens think that they will see the end of the world and the return of Jesus. So by golly, if Jesus clone shows up, 70% percent of the US isn't going to think twice about it.
The gist is basically, a group has played upon the religious fears of humans and created a figurehead theocracy. They claim they're connected directly to "God" when it in fact they're the ones making the shots.
This actually intrigues me, even moreso than BioShock, since there's much more of an opportunity to make a statement here, especially about religion.
SnakeCL
Sollus
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Not on PS3 too? I'm tired of this horseshit.
Sollus
jago.kot
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
It's not hard to find someone who can do some pretty concept artwork, pretty textures and take some cool screenshots. The tough part is going to be making the game:
(1) Fun to play
(2) Not preachy (if it's preachy then it'll go the way of Eternal Forces)
...I echo the Evangelion comments as well. The whole idea isn't "entirely" original (but then again what idea is?)
jago.kot
ManjiKengo
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
game sounds fucking amazing.
Kane and lynch sounded fucking amazing.
Lets see how this will be pulled off before actually praising it.
ManjiKengo
Rohsiph
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
If the writers can somehow make something cohesive out of that premise and insert it in the frame of a shooter, I think it'd be something of a miracle ;)
Rohsiph
pandafresh
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
the art and the concept sound kinda dumb to me. but the DJQuake? effing hilarious!
pandafresh
tei
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
(I mean, I have found prior art from some guy on the internet. The draw is not mine.)
tei
tei
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I have prior art: DJQuake!
[deej.digitalfunk.org]
tei
me, my yoke + i
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Ehardergardens: Oh, I remember that game, too. It was fun... until it crashed my PC and I had to reinstall the OS.
Why does today everyone keep reminding me of games I had shitty experiences with? :D
@jayntampa: Nah, I'm sure they took Jesus' DNA from a relic, then made a negative of his DNA (y'know, replacing each gene with its opposite, which, as we all know, is a scientifically sound possibility *ahem*).
Which would make the Antichrist a chick. And she's probably fat. And bald.
me, my yoke + i
mtheumer
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@SpiralJacobs: I think Mr. Jack Thompson would disagree with you there.
mtheumer
SpiralJacobs
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
No one is going to have a problem with this game, religiously, because it's so dumb. It's not offensive if it's stupid.
SpiralJacobs
huginn - No I will not give you a hug!
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Yes cause we all know that genetic stemcell research can bring on cloning and bring on the end of the world.
*rolls eyes*
This is like a Right Wing Christian's wet dream to protest against. Lets see what do we got here.
-It's a shooter.
-It deals with the horrors of genetics
-It has you killing 'religious themed' icons.
-It has machines talking with God.
-It has you fighting the end of days.
Sure it has no worse themes then a good Sci-fi novel, but sci-fi is often overlooked, gaming is never overlooked. This game can be the second coming of Halo 2, but with it's radical storyline will be the shine of the game much akin to bully has become.
I smell just another ordinary shooter with a controversy that wount save it in the end. Another Manhunt2.
huginn - No I will not give you a hug!
jp182
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
i like the concept but different strokes for different folks. Many people felt that Gears of War provided enough of a story for them.
jp182
jayntampa
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I dunno ... they'll have to fix the story some. It's hard to replicate something that doesn't exist (i.e. the anti-christ). If it does exist, well, it's Armageddon, God is real, and no government can stop that.
Now, if they created a faux anti-christ and offed in it show to take religious control of the world, that I can buy into ...
jayntampa
Ehardergardens
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Reminds me of Requiem Avenging angel... that game had Some amazingly fun weapons and abilities for an FPS a the time... including I believe the first bullet time in a game(pre dating max payne) and so close to the matrix release that it was not probably influenced by it. I loved resurrecting a small army before storming a room.
story execution hmmm so so...
hopefully this will be better in that regard...
Ehardergardens
me, my yoke + i
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
God is dead? Bah, Nietzsche said it first. Sounds like an extremely stupid plot for fans of the Matrix trilogy's philosophy (offense intended). "Hey, let's throw some metaphysical shit in a blender, see what comes out! Woah, I gots a wikkid idea: how 'bout we kill Jesus? Dude, gimme the bong, I got some religious thinking to do."
@A8acus: I remember that game! It had Dennis Hopper in it, right? That was so long ago...
The dumbest-ever localization mistake made it impossible to finish, though: one particular password was longer in my language than in English, and the game only allowed you to write as many letters as the original English password. Talk about broken... And in those days, no internet, no patches.
I think my brother fooled around with a hex editor and fixed it, but it never got back to it.
@justhesh: Yes, many indeed.
me, my yoke + i
mtheumer
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Saxboy: So either you are saying the developers should already be looking over their shoulders, or that there haven't been calls for assasinations by Islamic leaders based on perceived slights against the faith. Either way, my point was that this game is going to get the church spun up enough to, at the least call for a boycott. If someone repping Christianity wants to to take a shot at one of the games developers, at least he can't say the Pope told him to.
mtheumer
sizzl3r
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
some of those screenies just reminds me of HL2.
sizzl3r
joelface
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
basically a great idea to buy this game if you want to go directly to hell.
joelface
Saxboy
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@mtheumer: That was... Islam bashing to say the least. Christians are too good to assassinate people? Please don't blame "Islam" for the reactions of a few people. I mean heck, if I judged all Americans (including myself) by what I read from people's mouths on the internet I'd probably just commit suicide.
As long as the game doesn't try to assert some sort of metaphysical relevancy, fine. I'm so tired of things that completely misinterpret what they represent.
Saxboy
Fnor
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic?
"Just so long as it looks meaningful, people will love it!"
Fnor
Hek415
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I wanna kill Jesus!!
Hek415
Highlander Wolf
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I like the ideas. Very dark-future-like. I will be watching and waiting for this game.
...and praying for a PS3 release... if the Valve Source engine works on PS3... eh, phooey.
Highlander Wolf
justhesh
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Wasn't that many episodes of Dr. Who?
justhesh
mtheumer
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I love the concept, but if critics had a problem with Mass Effects, this is going to have their heads spinning. Fortunately, there's no reference to Islam, otherwise the game developers would have to watch for assasination attempts. If they can maintain the feel of the concept art in the finished product, this game will be a hit, otherwise it will be relegate to another attempt at sensationalism.
mtheumer
Collapse The Control
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Those pics remind me of a FEAR FACTORY video for their song RESSURECTION.
Collapse The Control
Atheist Jew
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
The Source engine is still a wonderful tool to work with, but when masterpieces like CryEngine2 exist, which has as much functionality as Source or Unreal 3 and looks amazing to boot, I don't understand why any company would go with a less-sophisticated engine. Source offers some unique development tools but it's a bitch to get assets into it, among other things.
Although I suppose Cryengine2 hasn't been optimized for the 360 yet, which could be a part of it.
Atheist Jew
valleyshrew
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Beelzebozo:
Dna decays, plus those relics are all fake, several churches compete with eachother over who has the real holy foreskin. No relic has stood up to scientific scrutiny. I don't believe the figure is historical, but if he was, I don't think godliness could have been coded into his DNA, he would've had to have some seperate system for that.
valleyshrew
shagari7
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
i have a question. Why is it that valve only likes to release games for pc and Xbox 360? am not a fanboy but i just want to know why they don't work in the ps3
shagari7
ianp622
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@mind in rewind: That's because every single gamer is in his teens and loves to see a woman in leather. Right?
ianp622
mind in rewind
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
It seems like every upcoming game that was revealed recently has a chick in leather. I'm just sayin'.
mind in rewind
coat.danvers
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Can you imagine what would have happened if (speaking about fundamentalism) they decided to clone and kill a particular middle eastern 'prophet' instead? And I don't mean in the game... I call them cowards.
coat.danvers
Maxathon
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@tenken: Sweet cloned Jesus am I glad to hear those sentiments. I just do not understand why so many gamers have horrible, tacky taste.
On an unrelated note, "high concept" is about the most misleading phrase ever...
Maxathon
cebukid
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
So whats the title of the game? Jesus Christ Superstar?
cebukid
TomSkylark
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Ashurahori: That was my first thought. My second was, "Wasn't that pretentious enough the first time?"
TomSkylark
mAaron
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
i assume that the "Regime" would have to correlate to one of the two 'sides' in the conflict, (Good/Evil)...
but from the sound of it, it's acting on behalf of both, and the protagonists operate as a separate entity altogether...
something tells me at least half of this concept is unnecessary and superfluous...
if the point of it all ends up boiling down to "judging people as being good or bad is wrong"...that's slightly ironic
so far though...it just looks like someone forced the Matrix to breed with the paranoia that Christianity is going to take over the planet and kill everyone
:-P so far i'm not interested
(also, in the press release, do they mean "BRAVE New World"? ...i've never heard of "Brand New World")
mAaron
Sheogorath
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Golly, this doesnt sound like the plot of a certain anime at all. Nosiree.
I wonder when people will start coming up with their own material and stop ripping off the Japanese >_>
Sheogorath
Beelzebozo
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@DrLight: Anti-Christ they could just make up. Christ? Well there are an infinite number of "Holy Relics" that are supposed to contain his DNA (blood, skin, etc) Even if they don't match, they just have to get it close enough to make people believe that these are the real things. Hell, just flip a few things around and make the Anti-Christ from the same DNA, like an evil twin.
Reminds me of an old web comic called "Fat Jesus about an attempted Jesus clone that turns out to be seriously flawed.
Beelzebozo
SpiralJacobs
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
This sounds so, so stupid.
SpiralJacobs
Beelzebozo
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I'm lovin' this concept. It's like the Anti-Left Behind.
Beelzebozo
BossMonk
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
The concept art looks like an uninspiring half-life 2 clone (cover everything with crucifixes!) and the plot is riped right out of some pseudo intellectual anime (or high school wapanese fanfic). Also, generic protagonists archetypes!
Its so over the top and derivative! How could it possibly fail?
BossMonk
DrLight
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
How on Earth did they figure out who the Antichrist is? Or get Christs DNA? =O!
DrLight
3xch4ng3
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I love the concept of Technology and Religion, A server-link to Heaven? Awesome.
3xch4ng3
catapult37
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Mmmm... sacrelicious. :-)
catapult37
KeeliLuv
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
That's a very touch and go idea for a game... it'll either rock or suck horribly.
On the flip side, I could see some biological/genetic engineer trying to steal one of the famous "relics of Christ" that supposedly have his blood on it to try and clone him. I mean, if they're trying to clone a wooly mammoth, why not the poster-boy for Christians?
KeeliLuv
Zegridathes
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I thought there was supposed to be three antichrist?
They make it sound like matter and antimatter.
The trio of characters they have planned for the player remind me of the three base classes in Mass Effect.
Zegridathes
new_pornographer
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@icepick314:
Not sure but I heard the Archbishop of Canterbury was politely asking the devs to involve Sharia law somewhere in it, 'to get with the times'.
new_pornographer
Freekarrtt
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
mmmmm Now thats some bland nondescript post apocalyptic Scifi concept art.
Freekarrtt
HurricaneDave
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
The overall concept sort of sounds cool, but the details screw it up. Like someone said before, what in the hell is the purpose of cloning Christ and the anti-Christ? Not even mentioning who in the hell is the Anto-Christ and then they top it off by killing them. It makes no sense.
HurricaneDave
A8acus
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Hey now! Part of that sounds like the plot to another game - Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller!
A8acus
icepick314
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
so what's the Church of England have to say about this game?
icepick314
new_pornographer
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Ashurahori:
Beat me to it! I don't think you get to defeat the 'Angels' in this in big mechas though :(
new_pornographer
DaiMacculate
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
This game better come with the manual in the same binding and using the same paper as a standard Bible, because for some reason I think that would rock.
Remains to be seen if it will actually be worth playing ;)
DaiMacculate
geekgrrl
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
sounds like a mess. there's so much that could go wrong with this.
geekgrrl
GMC
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
In-game CROSS media bar confirmed?
see what i did there?
it was lame.
*leaves
GMC
ianp622
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@ExistentialEgg: I can't believe you beat me to it. :(
ianp622
bleeps
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I hope the localization is better than the press release translation. =P
bleeps
ianp622
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Ashurahori: As well as the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
ianp622
tenken
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
It would take a video game - or the Wachowski brothers - to come up with a concept this pretentious and dumb.
I mean, parts of the plot sound like they could be cool, but not when they're all mooshed together, like cloning the Antichrist, then killing him/her, as though that would trigger some flag in real life...oh wait, triggering a flag, just like a video game! Cybernetic hell! A server linked up to heaven? Wonder what their ping is....
All they need are some wires sticking out of peoples' heads and a trashy death metal soundtrack and the artistic vision will be complete.
tenken
BiGBoSSMK23
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Why the f%$#! is it not being developed for PS3? I hate when small budget developers go the easy way and ditch the PS3.
On another note, It seems like these guys are inspired a lot by MGS lol "original bosses with their own strategy and story" "stealth" "high cinematic factor"
BiGBoSSMK23
ExistentialEgg
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Ashurahori:
along with the holy hand grenade of Antioch.
ExistentialEgg
Witzbold
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
@Yuki: Who has to fight his best friend in the end right? ;D
Witzbold
Ashurahori
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I hope we get The Rocket Launcher of Destiny as a weapon.
Ashurahori
invictus2006
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
sounds cool
invictus2006
ianp622
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
I expect a statement by the Vatican within a week of its release. Perhaps they'll add "Playing Salvation" to their new list of sins.
I think the concept is awesome, and the graphics don't look bad for the Source engine. I'm eager to see how the gameplay is though.
ianp622
Yuki
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Is the main character a teenage boy who pilots a mech?
Yuki
Ashurahori
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Jeez, it's Neon Genesis Evangelion all over again.
Ashurahori
Mattjay
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Glorious.
Mattjay
Witzbold
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
Im diggin the concept art!
Witzbold
Modus_Operandi
Posted 10:41 PM 19/3/08
MMMMmmmm. Sacrilegious.
Modus_Operandi