Wow now I can stop using my DS as the reflective surface I first go to when I need to view my anus while I trim the hair

Allfather Black

@Knoxximus (360/PSN): I've been playing it on the PSP a lot lately. The load times are among the best you'll find on the PSP. Very short and pretty much completely unnoticeable after you get started. Every now and again there will be about a 1 second or less load time between voiced dialogue.

baked ham

Hot damn. I'm buying this game for a third time.

pirate_panda

I thought it was already announced that this would not include Etna's extra mode found on the PSP version. idk *shrugs*

physical

Usually I side with the DS, but I'm gonna hafta give the nod to the PSP version this time. Load times aside, you can play it on your TV as well as on the go (if you have the PSP-2000). Auto win!

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

Multiplayer? really?

I'm as big a fan of Disgaea as anyone, but I'm gonna say right now that it isn't a multiplayer game.

I can imagine it going something like this:

"Okay, I got a great strategy to beat you! I worked out every possible move you can make and a way to counter it, so let's go... and... oh hey, you're level 9999 already?"

Withmyrice

God DAMNIT, and I was just about to start the psp version. Now I'm even scared of playing the DS version, because by the time it rolls out, there will be talks of a remake! Cool that they are expanding their audience though, but christ guys, don't become the next Square-Enix (although they have been pretty cool about their ports lately; overhauling the graphics and dialogue and whatnot, effectively making the term "port" null and void)

Afore Notation

@Witzbold:

Not a port, a conversion!

Darthvinder

@crescentfresh:
This line: "Well excuse us for being flat!!!"

munkah

@Witzbold:
"Crispy Gamer: Will the DS version support full voice acting and cutscenes from the original?

Jack: Yes, all the voiceovers and cut scenes of the original will be there. "

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

Disgeaea 3 with remote play, make it happen Atlus. Thas is how you get me to buy your game. (I really like the idea of having portable rpgs with the option of going big screen)

greeble

can i transfer my level 5,000 characters from the playstation 2 version so i don't have to spend another 100 hours of my life building them up again?
actually, i'm still on level 8 or so, as i just finally got around to playing this gem.

moominsean

@Lyner: There goes my need to ask my question. Cool. I'd love to have the game on my DS as I'm gonna be doing a lot of traveling in the next couple years and can't bring my PS2 along for the ride.

Wahoo!

2NinjasTapedTogether

There goes any need for me to buy a PSP!

Reilaos, Man of Destiny

It's the first game again. They'll probably add like 2 extra things to it just to shut people up. Like I dunno, add Gig or something so fanboys can settle once and for all whether he's better than Laharl or not.

In any case, I'm still waiting for that Ar Tonelico 2 there. WHERE IS MY COSMOSPHERE? D:

Lyner

I still would have been more happy if it was a new side story instead of another port. :x

Also they still have not confirmed if it will have full voice. D:

Regardless Ill be picking it up anyways, but I do hope that NIS keeps to the tradition of releasing the limited edition first run of the games when its released here.

Witzbold

So... this is the 1st game redone? I'm new, so that's good.

excaleranth

Any chance we can have the cult of the Witzbold have one of there own in here? You know, like with the god of the Prinnys needs to be named Witzbold?
Pleeeease? :)

huginn - No I will not give you a hug!

Hmmm... now I'm not sure whether to get the PSP version or the DS version. On the one hand, the PSP version has better graphics. On the other, the multiplayer on the DS is more interesting to me since I actually have friends who own DSes, but none that own PSP. Why couldn't they have just made this a new game? Stupid NIS.

dhelor

@KirbyMorph: @KirbyMorph: It's only the third system that Disgaea has been on, isn't it? Capcom managed to put Resident Evil 2 on Playstation, PC, Nintendo 64, Dreamcast, Gamecube, and Game.Com. That's right. Game.Com. Dood! And that's only one of many examples of Capcom knowing precisely how to whore out a game/franchise.

baked ham

@Modus_Operandi: Erm...Disgaea for PS2, PSP, and DS. Which was the 4th rehash of Disgaea 1?

Furious_Liver

I just wet myself.

blackadvent

@-Sigil-:
Oh yeah, I imagine I missed something. My point being though is that it's deep. You can easily sink MMO-esque time into the game building your characters and items and such.
The dialogue and voice acting was always pretty good too, hopefully they can fit all that into a tiny tiny DS cart.

Tizlor

@OtakuFille: Never!

Bring it to the DS!!!

:D

Onizuka-GTO

Yes! More drug!

Prinnygeddon!

EA and Capcom could take lessons from NIS on how to whore out a franchise. What they've managed to accomplish with Disgaea is amazing and Madden could use this level of rehashing.

KirbyMorph

This is stupid, and this game will only get uglier with more nintendo system it touches.

ohhello

If it doesn't use WiFi, it's useless to me. There's seriously no reason to play this game for a third time if it doesn't go online to play with random people or far-away friends.

DaveKap

@Legion329:

Thread Paradox
Witzbold is not present.

How does multi-player work? I can't imagine it being fair at all. Since there are so many levels, the chances that you'll be the same level as your friend (as well as equally equipped) would be slim to none.

Channing

@Legion329 & zanzibarlegend: Hey, there's the game that Witzbold got his icon from! Let's all go crazy! We need his comment so we know whether to praise this game or not!
/douch-baggery

Seriously, I'm glad they're putting this on the DS. I hear so much good stuff about this game that I was considering a switch from DS to PSP. Now I won't have to. Yet.

skrame

@Modus_Operandi: I don't agree about Disgaea 3. I downloaded the HD trailer on the PS3's Japan store and I watch it every time I turn on my PS3 haha. I'm playing Disgaea on PSP at the moment, and just watching the trailer D3 looks gets me all excited to play it. Looks really awesome. If they changed it too much, it simply wouldn't be Disgaea. They took the same basic game and just awesomed it up a whole lot. I'm cool with that.

baked ham

Disgaea is such an amazing game. I am still playing it on the PSP, and I probably won't stop between now and when it comes out for DS. I really don't like the idea of losing all my work (between leveling up items, pupils, residents, transmigrations, etc, it's easy to put hundreds of hours into Disgaea) and having to start out as a lowly level 1 demon, but, hell, I'll do it if there's no other way to play online battles, and hopefully the map on the top screen makes the game a little easier to play (the only problem I ever had with the game was the awful limited camera control which can make it hard to see what you're looking for).

baked ham

It's like I'm being rewarded for not buying a PSP and holding out for something better.

ncsbert

@PearceShea: I tend to not agree that SRPG's cant evolve. Every genre can, its just waiting for someone creative and crazy enough to do so. I mean thats how Disgaeae came about to begin with. The thing is at least bring some substantial new gameplay mechanics or tell a new story. Seriously D2 felt almost like a re-imagining of the original. Like a directors cut or something. 3 doesnt look to change things up too much. Sometimes thats good but by the time you get to a part 3 in anything youre getting close to wearing away the novelty.

Modus_Operandi

If one of these 'new characters' isn't Ash from Phantom Brave, I'm not sold.

LunarTakiro

@Modus_Operandi: Fair enough, and while Atlus has been diversifying, NIS has pretty much made the same sort of game over and over.

In their defense, the only games they've made that have done well have been SRPGs and not only is that a format that appeals, generally, to only a handful of people, it's also not exactly a genre where there seems to be a lot of room for innovation.

PearceShea

The PSP version is awesome, but will the DS have the same graphics?

exkon

Woo! Now I don't have to hunt around for this on the PS2. Disgaea on the go on my DS. Sweet... I can't wait.

hondo

I only have one question - is the game going to include fully voiced dialogue from the original game? If it does - awesome! If not, I'll be sad.

DarkFalzX

where is the Witz? Gotta hear his reaction to all this

zanzibarlegend

i shouldve just waited for this DS version instead of the psp one. ive since sold my psp and ps2 versions, but i highly doubt ill pick this one up.

Konstrix

I can finally play the grindan games on my broken ds. It's about time NIS! But it will most likely be worth the wait!

JauntyHat

I want to know how they were able to fit all the voiceovers in ...

shimage

Bring us Disgaea 2 for the PSP instead.

OtakuFille

@DimensionWarped: I stand corrected. Nippon Ichi is the culprit here. {Cue Nippon Ichi with DS printing money gif}

Modus_Operandi

@Modus_Operandi: Except that aside the 1st Disgaea, Atlus had absolutly nothing to do with the others.... considering that it's NIS AMERICA :P not Atlus, publishing them now.

Zantagor

@Modus_Operandi:

Atlus doesn't make Disgaea actually. NiS does. Atlus published Disgaea in the US. However, after the success of Disgaea, NiS started publishing for themselves.

DimensionWarped

@PearceShea: @excel_excel: Hey like I said Im a big fan. I got Phatom Brave. I have Makai Kingdom. I love the fact that they released a PSP verison. And Im glad to see them making dough. But its high time they start making a new engine for this series as its becoming their FF. And I mean that in a bad way. Theyre starting to slap Disgaeae on games just to sell it. Look at Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom. They were similiar to Disgaeae and were estenially sequels to that game but had different names even though the gameplay was basically the same. But after seeing Disgaeae 2 and seeing early shots of 3 I have to say that it feels like Atlus is using the Square mentality. "Why make a new game or call it something different when we can just call it Disgaeae and slap a number after it and itll sell better?"
NEw engine. At least a next gen one.

Modus_Operandi

It's obvious they are milking the game, but the game has so much personality and is fun, so I am okay with that.

More prinny goodness? AYE, AYE DOOD! Bring it on!

mikomichan

Witzbold? Witzbold? WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZBOLD!!!

Legion329

Dood!

cijid

Voices and full cutscenes intact, nice... good to see they "got it." I wonder if that's both languages?

It would definitely be nice sometimes to click on one pedestal of a messed up bumpy level and say "go here."

But the biggest factor for me having it on PSP is the sleep mode. It's not that the DS doesn't have an equivalent, but everytime I leave my DS sleeping it dies in a day or two. :/

fuchikoma

@Modus_Operandi: Really? I mean I agree when it comes to the original Disgaea as I dropped over a hundred hours on the ps2 version, and have recently hit that and more on the psp version... I'd love a mobile Disgaea 2, though...

More to the point, Disgaea 3 looks quite different from its predecessors... I fail to see how this is much different from how Final Fantasy has essentially remained unchanged, albeit little improvements over the breadth of the series (how long did it take to get real time[ish] combat in that series) and I would never say that that brand has been run into the ground (though, admittedly, Squeenix is getting close...).

If anything, I'm the most happy with Atlus as I've ever been. In the past year and a half I've seen Persona 3, Fes, an announced Persona 4, Disgaea 3 (imported) and portable versions of one of their strongest games...

PearceShea

@Modus_Operandi: to be honest I can't blame atlus for going disgaea rehash crazy, they've always gone for a niche market and when something grows beyond that in popularity like Disgaea did there obviously happy to release it and make more money and put more money into future releases

excel_excel

Brilliant stuff loving how were getting new characters, I have Hour of Darkness for PS2 but I'm definetly getting this!
PRINNY SQUAD GO!! AYE, AYE DOOD!

excel_excel

@crescentfresh: First off it's not really an rpg, it's a srpg (strategy rpg; think La Pucelle Tactics or FFTactics).

Disgaea is also arguably the most popular and almost certainly the deepest srpg out there. There is a broad variety of monsters and humans to include in your army, a high level of customization (including the "item world" which is a sort of side quest system that allows you, as you crawl through the items levels and defeat the "bosses" therein, to boost your items) and, as someone has already noted, you can get to a ridiculous level with ridiculous stats. The specials become equally over-the-top and there's a very self-aware, tongue-in-cheek, quirky sens of humour throughout. Though there's a lot of grinding involved, it really never feels like grinding as the game itself is quite fun.

PearceShea

On the front page it looks like "the obvious question would be, what's new?" is followed by a blank quotebox, which may be more revealing than it seems ;)

All these ports of the original Disgaea and not a single port of Disgaea 2, or Makai Kingdom, or Phantom Brave? I don't have time these days to sit down and play the console versions, so portable versions would be nice.

concrete_d

Nice. I didn't get a chance to play the PSP additions.

onidavin

@Tizlor: I think you missed an extra 9, you can go over 1,000,000. I've fought Baal when he was max level (you go to the dark assembly and have them increase enemy monster level) and all his stats go over 1,000,000.

-Sigil-

The graphics from the original weren't anything special, but i wonder how the DS version will end up looking. Have we seen any screens yet?

Philonious

@crescentfresh: Bloody funny, epic storyline (IMO), high customisation and high replayability.

Disgaea PSP also has multiplayer. Hopefully DS exclusive owners will enjoy the game as much as I did.

JonC

@crescentfresh: Levelling up every item and weapon you have is possible (to level 999) has a good bit of humour in the cutscenes, unique play style, fun, great longevity (I had the PS2 version and played it over 200 hours, that has no multiplayer like this too!), can create your own little army of monsters (you can only use about 10 in each fight though). Very fun altogether, I recommend it alot.

-Sigil-

@crescentfresh:
It's an SRPG that is fairly 'deep' in terms of skills and leveling. Breaks convention by making the max character level 9999 and having individual stats max out at 999999.
Many hours can be had trying to level up characters in the various extra levels. Items can be leveled up as well, at least I think they can in Disgaea. I get various Nippon Ichi games mixed up in that respect.

Tizlor

@crescentfresh: Its somewhat like FF: Tactics but with more humor and less pretension. Also a ton more grinding and leveling up.
Look I love this game but seriously...stop already. Disgaea 3 is coming out and Ill be damned if it looks any better than this DS port. Atlus has suddenly become rehash crazy. Instead of rehashing the same game go and make a need engine. This series is getting close to being run into the ground. What was once a rare and beloved game is on its 4th rehash. 4th!

Modus_Operandi

@crescentfresh: Quirky Humor and ungodly stat numbers.

Maldron

I was really hoping it would be a new game in the "universe" of Disgaea.

Zarian

For someone not familiar with the series at all, what's it like??? Is there anything that makes it stick out from other RPGs???

crescentfresh

Finally, I'll get to play this game that everyone goes on and on about.

Although I hear that as far as challenge goes, there isn't much of one. People talk about how much fun the game is but I mean, I'm a big fan of Final Fantasy Tactics, not this crazy stuff where you can level up your weapon, which is a TREE. I'm looking at you, Phantom Brave.

Baramos

I got the original Disgaea recently and I've played it for about 8 hours so far. Maybe I should wait for this game instead of playing that one more. Depends on when it comes out though of course.

Feigr

Voices! What about voices? I wonder, if it's even possible to put all the dialogues on the DS cart.

Keii