I hope they dont make a whole new game, if they did i would be sooo pissed! i love source the way it is, i used to play 1.6 but onced i played source i got hooked on it and couldnt go back to 1.6, I jus hope they maybe add new maps, characters and etc.

Snipa009

Like already mentioned, CS:S _is_ defacto CS2. And no, with each new patch they crippled the game more and more. At some time lots of diehard players just got fed up with the game that no longer played like a CS.
Cheers to valve getting a diamond and making it into shit.

somarix

Redesign the current maps in TF2 cartoon-o-vision, give us some slightly exagerrated player models, keep the guns and ammo system, throw in a perks system with achievement based unlockable perks and weapon addons a lá COD4 and I doubt I'd leave the flat ever again. In CS there hasn't been a new way of assaulting the objectives in years, but in TF2 every day I see new tactics, spins on old styles and innovative uses that I've seen in no other online game. Variety is the key.

Mattz

Honestly, I've never really understood the draw to CS. Then again, I've always been more of an RtCW/W:ET/ET:QW fan, as I prefer more complicated objectives. If CS (or CS2) had RtCW-style objectives, then I might actually consider playing it. Still, they'd hafta take care of the rampant cheating first.

kubevubin

Um, actually there hasn't been new content for CS:S in about 2 years, valve abandon their games

ConfuciusMax

Counter Strike 2 would be awesome. Especially if they expanded on the guns and added deeper functionality, also costum skins and such would be cool too.

But it should remain on PC.

Swean

Meh. I stopped playing Counter-Strike when they removed gun-running, wall-hugging and bunny-hopping.

It went downhill from there.

I've seen 1.6 and Source and I'm disappointed that they didn't remake Ship and Siege. They were both a lot more intricate and entertaining than Dust.

r1nce

COD4 is CS2.

KEELr

I don't think they mean to make CS2 with the same art direction/style as TF2, more that they would put the same kind of effort into reinventing the game as they have with TF2.

Would be nice to have it on 360 as I've slipped away from PC gaming and I'm not sure if/when I'll be going back to it.

Devittron

I'd just like to see them make it for a console.

You see, I /thought/ that I wanted to buy a nice PC for my house that could run Vista, Crysis, yada yada...

But apparently, what I /actually/ wanted to use my disposable income for was a new chair and "media console" for the living room. Thank goodness my girlfriend was able to point me in the right direction this weekend- I was about to make a terrible mistake.

:-|

KilgoreTrout__XL

Add more modes/ objectives, and maybe a new system of character development.

excaleranth

@Pancho_Villasan: It's not just Valve..

Katorok

I would rather Valve release CS2 when they release a new engine and Half Life 3 whenever they will do that. I hope to god that Valve does not turn every IP they own to TF2 style graphics and gameplay, yes TF2 is fun and it looks great but it does not fit every single IP.

Frankly, bring out CS2 in a few years time, the Source engine is about 4 years old. Mkae a new engine when the engine hits 6 years old and show other devs how much ass you can kick!

zonetrooper5

I still play 1.6 competitively and while i personally would welcome some new changes with a brand new CS release, a lot of the people i play with would feel otherwise (This is why none of them play source, i don't play source for different reasons.) I think what a lot of 1.6 players are hoping for is basically just CS1.6 with fine looks that feels right.

Valve won't want to market the game purely to the competitive scene and would have to compromise, something which will probably tear the CS Scene apart again.

It'll be interesting to see what Valve brings out. Hope it's a good one.

Andariale

I say, without prejudice, that Counterstrike has already been iterated upon, and doesn't *need* sequels. You can frontline, Rainbow six, Call of duty 4, or battlefield until your head falls off--though it may not be a long way off.

Valve is the womb of awesomeness, I know this may sound like I'm being jerksauce, but I'd rather they work on something fundamentally more creative than translating real-world weaponry into what is basically paintball or laser tag. If they decide that counterstrike can live in a very strange and wonderful world, such as something akin to Assassin's Creed--maybe taking the idea of bandits and law enforcement in a historical setting, without guns--that would be interesting, and I'd be interested to see what they do. But ultramodern is covered.

deathbunny

Another CS would probably not be the best idea. The userbase is already spread thin through 1.5, 1.6, Condition-Zero (hah) and CS: Source.

If anything, a graphical overhaul for CS:S would be nice. A couple new guns or game modes, maybe. Get on it.

Bryan_

Let it die. Gameplay is 10 years old and so are half the maps.

Fuzzba11

Anything other than a graphical update will be shunned by the CS community. I still hear people bitch and moan about how they "ruined" CS when they went from 1.5 to 1.6, and again from 1.6 to 2.0 (source).

cheesecake000

@Dauragon C. Mikado: Blasphemy! Shut your mouth! Lol, j/k.

Seriously, I really hope they do not implement the TF2 art style into Counter-Strike. TFC was never meant to be realistic, and therefore was served well when TF2 was released with the totally new (and totally awesome) art direction. Counter-Strike is supposed to be realistic. I think it would look completely goofy with cel-shaded-esque terrorists and counter-terrorists running around blasting each other in the face.

NinjaBurg3r

I will play counterstrike 2 under one condition

NO

MORE

FUCKING

DUST!!!!

Dauragon C. Mikado

I think adding deformable objects would be a nice addition. The core of the gameplay should stay more or less the same. That's why it's CS:S and not Quake Wars or such.

Building in new modes of play makes sense. Adding in driving/flying just makes me think - Oh boy. Battlefield: Counterstrike :p

Khaotix

I remember playing Counter-Strike back in Middle school. Haven't really gotten into it lately. CZ was disappointing, Source was a burden on my system (back in 7th grade). Now I'm ready... BRING ON CS2. I'll pay for it this time instead of PC cafe hopping or cousin's house LAN parties.

ph15h

@ninjamonkNo1:
Congrats, you just described APB.

CS2 will need to be completely reworked if it wants to succeed. Just look at how many people play CS 1.6, CS:CZ, and CS:S. Oldschool/hardcore Counter-Strike players generally stuck to 1.6 which means they couldn't care less about shiny graphics, new weapons or gameplay tweaks. Personally I'd like to see a MMO CS - if anyone can do it, Valve can.

Type-R

I think they should add vehicles and destuctive maps and explosives that work.

imagine being able to by a dirtbike and ride around a map on it.

you could then have scenerios where they T's have rob an armed car and have the ct's driving it or trying to stop it.

bank robberies with actual hostages and have a go heroes and etc

imagine being able to play a that heat scene out.

Also T's should be abled to be arrested, IE the ct score more if the T surrenders but they can also be released by their teammates.

ninjamonkNo1

I'm still a CS:S player... the game is just perfect the way it is. More maps and skins won't make it "Counter Strike 2".

So my vote is: Make a whole new game. I did like Team Fortress 2 graphics... and I'd probably like a Counter Strike game that looked like that too, but I know that lots of people who play CS:S like it because it feels like a real life situation (even though it absolutely isn't)... so I'm not shure about that.

Personal preference, past few months I'm playing a lot more on Deathmatch servers... so a game leaning towards that would make me happy.

But anyways, if the choose to just improve the game, a neat thing would be using the HL2 engine fully to make objects and stuff useable. No weird barrels, indestructible unmovable boxes, unbreakable wooden doors and stuff like that. Changing only that would already make the game more fun.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": i'd buy it.

detraya

@Pancho_Villasan:
It's not Valve that has something against Mac gamers, it is Apple that has something against Mac gamers.

cmcginn

Lego Counterstrike.
Seriously, Valve, get it done.

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

They should at least finally balance the weapons, so you're not forced to have eco rounds, because 90% of the guns are absolutely horrible.

mizeriq

Oh sweet merciful god CSS stole too much of my life... that, and Guild Wars, is why I'm a dedicated console player now.

Please may the spec be too good for my cruddy laptop... Must... avoid... playing.............

Communist_Gamer

Keep the weapon buying/carrying system.
Throw out the weapons and replace them with realistic ones.
Throw out the maps - maybe pay a few homages, but make a new official batch with similar objectives.
Maybe even put in a fully debugged riot shield. That was pretty fun before everyone figured out how to glitch it out and it got banned everywhere.

fuchikoma

Ok, CSS is not CS2 its just 1.6 + source engine = 1.7 end of story.

So show me some CS2 Valve. Just make sure its fun then its gonna be alright.

rhaR

@Pancho_Villasan: Bootcamp?

j14rk1n

Do we really need a Counter-Strike 2? Aren't the current incarnations enough?

Really, though, there are lots of other FPS games that Valve could invest into...

*coughL4Dcough*

Troubadour

A truly revolutionary step forward would be for Valve to find a way to easily incorporate user-made content into a console version of Counterstrike.

elementary

@Pancho_Villasan: Its not that Valve has something againt Mac users, its that Mac users have something against real computers. Can't blame Valve for that.

ajay42

@Pancho_Villasan:

Valve has nothing against mac users, mac has something against mac users as valve on many occasions has tried opening discussions about having a steam client compatible with Mac OS, It seems that Apple are not interested as they keep turning it down.

enigma776

I would love to see a CS2, but honestly I don't see what they could do to improve it over 1.6/CSS without making it a totally different game.

And if they do that, I don't know how it would be better than COD4, TF2, etc...

WiNG

@Witzbold: simplistic game design???? how bout you tell me where cod4 and these other games that make cs look "sad" are going to be in 10 years. there is a reason it is still one of the most popular multiplayer games in the world, and that's cause no other game can hold a candle to its balance for competitive play.

the game isnt about the graphics, its about the experience.

m3lkor

Does Counter-Strike even need a sequel? I still play Counter-Strike: Source quite a bit, and can't really see myself purchasing a newer version unless it gives me money and women every time I get a headshot.

HungryWolf AKA C of TeamChink.com

They could always support both CS:Source and CS2, like they do now with old CS 1.6 and CS:S.

GhaleonUnlimited

Bring Back CS Beta 6.1 and label it Counterstrike 2

ahh the Good days

KaliKOtt

OMFG Counter-Strike was my crack when I was in HS a few years ago. If they would port it to the 360 like they did with Half-Life, I'd be in my holy glory!

acez2087

Yeah, I like the idea of a new game, hell it can't do any worse than "respawn at the same spot, buy the same weapons and go do the same damn thing/make the same damn mistake, over and over again, every damn time you play the game.............. yeah, I think CS sucks hairy ass.

98abaile2

@Randroid: I think theres been a lot more games than just COD4 alone that made CS look sad to begin with.

Although its the simplistic game design that keeps folks comming back. Although sometimes I do questions folks tastes in the ugly fan made maps over the more proper nicer looking fan made ones. Like Iceworld or whatever.

Witzbold

@Randroid: basically. at this point, they're going to have to top COD4 and that would be pretty hard. It doesn't have to look as realistic per se; just be as easy to pull friends into a game and have enough to do.

jp182

Counter-Strike 2 is Counter-Strike Source.....since the old one is CS 1.6 it is only logical to think that CS:S is the 2.0.

Therefore, this should be CS:Source2 or CS3.0 if anything. Also. DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT IT EXCEPT GRAPHICS I DARE YOU!

Candlejack

@gaiking: what's your frame rate? my friend has that issue if he isn't getting like 35 fps or higher

jp182

I dig Counter Strike. I'd love to see them go in a new direction, like with Team Fortress 2. Not necessarily, the "same" direction... but it's not like I'm drooping science on the boys behind some of the best games of 2007 (and in some cases EVAR). I trust the steps they will take. I am excited to see what they make.

Also that desert village level bores me into tears, so no more of those please.

SuperMekman

My advice: make something that is better then COD4 because its makes CS look sad.

Randroid

@Saxboy: the funny thing is that I have no problem with the vast majority of fps games and games like Fable and GoW...but Valve games always kill me with nausea...."ill have to try the dramamine bit....it's sad that i will need to turn to medication to play a video game LOL

gaiking

Counter Strike: Source was NOT CS 2, it was merely CS 1.6 running on the source engine. I used to be a CS die-hard, but to be honest after playing COD 4 I can't help but think that it's what CS 2 should be... maybe not exactly but I think they have the right blend of tactical/fun that made CS so much fun. I personally think CS/CSS are starting to show their age, sure CSS looks nice but it basically the same gameplay as 1.6 except with super accurate rifles (hitboxes are the same size but in CSS you actually hit where you're aiming) Just my $0.02

Re1gn

@gaiking: If it gives you nausea, you can try taking some dramamine or bonine 20-30 mins before you play. A friend of mine couldn't play ANY game where the camera moved about (such as any MMO, Prince of Persia, any FPS, etc) because she'd get motion sick / nauseated. Now she plays Fable and City of Heroes / Villains fairly often with the meds.

Saxboy

Jeez ...I wish I could enjoy valve games but every fps game by valve makes me dizzy as hell. I can play Halo, Call Of Duty, Bioshock etc. all without a problem...but every fps by Valve just makes me sick and queezy. Could it be the source engine?...for me when playing Half life, it almost seems like tunnel vision or something , I couldnt even get half way through it or Portal.....This stinks since I would love to finish these games.

Left4Dead uses the source engine too so I dont think I'll be able to play that one either.

anyone else have this problem with fps games by Valve?

gaiking

@BobbyMcPresscott: I wouldn't say so. Go to any LAN party in the world, and you'll see that people play CS: Source. A lot. This is also the reason why Valve didn't incorporate CS:S into The Orange Box; the product still has a LOT of retail value. Before Orange Box/TF2 came out, most of the people I knew that had Steam kept it purely to play Cs 1.6 or CS:S, and most of those had bought the games individually.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if CS:S is ranked as #2 after CS 1.6 on the most played list of Steam-game, and I'm confident that Valve knows and recognizes this.

Hawko

Please, whatever you guys do, don't make it in the Team Fortress 2 cartoon style. I wouldn't like it to much, and heaven knows the hard core CS players would have a collective stroke.

PapaBear434

shadowrun is the direction counterstrike needs to go.

Grumps

I havent touched CS ever since they added "stickyfeet" way back in the days.

Witzbold

if it aint broke, dont fix it. there is a reason people still play cs 1.6, and there isnt much beyond source that they could do to change/improve the game. it's more about the balance then the visuals.

m3lkor

I think even if they did release a Counter-Strike 2 I'd still be sticking to 1.6. Condition Zero didn't do much for me, and Source was horrible to begin with, never really got into it because of that, don't know if the hit boxes are still twice the size of the model, that made it far easier that it wasn't challenging.

One thing I'd like to see is an updated gun catalogue, some new skins and possibly even a new game mode. I'm sure they could think of something. I just hope they keep the gameplay as close to 1.6 as possible.

holytramp

CS Source is still as "deep" as CS 1.6 and every other 10 year old game. Adding in a deep end might actually make it a game worth consideration. Note that when HL2 came out CS Source came with it, yet until this statement it appeared Valve had purposely forgot about it after having created a game that makes CS obsolete. It says something when they thought so little of it that they didn't put it in The Orange Box along with HL2 despite it having 0 retail value at this point.

BobbyMcPresscott

@thewafflecult: Ouch. The episodes aren't doing it for you?

I think the world can wait for a Half-Life 3/Counter-Strike 2 launch extravaganza, don't you?

vanderblade

@Pancho_Villasan: Awww... It's not that Valve hates Mac users. It's that they've never heard of them. ;)

Leathersoup

I think the TF2 style counter strike would be cool, but as a CSS fan my self I am sure it would a lot of people angry.

Atrocity

Whatever Valve do, it'll be worth checking out.

ErskinPig

I think what they should do is make it fun like Counter-Strike used to be in '99 before they went all balance/patch crazy and turned it into a boring rush-fest.

Mommar

Like Gabe Newell said: "Counter-Strike is too important for us not to be working on Counter-strike 2."

The same can be said for Portal

Bluecell

A sequel is in order! But while you're at it, Valve, how about a proper Half-Life sequel too?

thewafflecult

@Pancho_Villasan: We all have something against Mac users :)

Lemming

.. countersrike source IS couterstrike 2. the're on about counterstrike 3. lol.

Worthy

I quit playing CS a little after source came out. I think it needs an overhaul. DoD filled the void shortly, but the source update was no good. All I had left was TFC, but no one played that anymore. I thank Valve for bringing TF2, and hope they can bring something new to the table with CS. Bring back the fun!

MonkeyBiz

@Pancho_Villasan: I think it's not just Valve.

Waka in Japan

More maps, more character models. Done!

I'll stick with the current game, even if it is simply updated. OkayThanksBie.

Black_Ops_19

Well I'm sure glad they're not considering Counter Strike:Source to be Counter-strike 2. I'd love for them to make a new game, but 1.6 still has its charm.

APassivePoke

Last option seems like it would lead to rioting.

Make a new game. If people want the old CS, they'll play the old CS. I think they've proven they know how to make a good game, a new one would probably be just as fun. That's just a guess though.

Setzer IIDX

I'd like to get into Counter-Strike, but I'm a Mac user, and Valve apparently has something against Mac users.

Pancho_Villasan

cs: source is the best mp game ever made... i keep coming back to it, halo 3, cod4 and tf2 were just minor infidelities.

meandering_drivel