That was the same nonsense they used to do the new Spider-man story -- it's magic, so it doesn't have to make sense. I hate that crap.

But, yeah, I'll probably check it out, too -- if it has some good characters.

Still, how anyone from the MK universe could stand against, say, Green Lantern or Wonder Woman, I don't know. Superman has a weakness to magic, so he could probably be taken down pretty easy :P

jayntampa

@Dauragon C. Mikado:

MvC was fun, and built around a good fighting engine. Thats why no one cared that you were beating on The Hulk with a gigantic cactus man.

expansionsss

Yeah, that mid-air kombat looks pretty sweet. I could almost count the number of sharks Sub Zero and Batman were jumping.

Eh, I'll still give it a shot though. I'm a sucker for MK games.

animagnum

I have a feeling my favorite Kombatant, Reptile, is going to be left out. Hope the game turns out well and great to hear the improvements in things like the different game styles.

sevendash

Who gives a crap if it makes sense, or if it's canon or not? Who the hell plays fighting games for the story?

And for that matter, since when does a Mortal Kombat game have to make sense? This is the same series where you can knock someone in front of an oncoming train in the first round and watch them get splattered to pieces, only for them to be perfectly fine in the next round. Or how about how Johnny Cage can decapitate Raiden, even though he's just an actor and Raiden is an immortal god. Or the fact that you can hit someone repeatedly with a sword without leaving a scratch on them.

So can someone please point out to me the MK game that "made sense", because I must have missed that one.

And for the record, Superman has always been weakened by magic. That isn't just some lame thing that they made up just so they could put him in the game. He really is weakened by magic.

mrplow8

How it makes sense: it's a video game.

Seroth

@Erwin:

Hahaha, fucking hilarious!!!

@ FAHEY - "There is no way in hell you can make this pairing make sense."

That's exactly what I think. I just don't understand how it's supposed to be Mortal Kombat without fatalities. It's what made the series what it is. How in the hell can they just can that?

dead_red_eyes

"You're not going to rip Batman's head off"

Well, I guess I won't be buying this. And whatnot.

MykalBloom

Ed BOOOOOOOOOOONNNN
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

ManjiKengo

@Captain Impulse: If that was the case it would start to sound like MUGEN. Which, by the way, is nothing short of awesome.

I keep wondering about the quality of these "finishing moves." Personally I would rather no fatalities to "censored" fatalities.

Ah well, I'm sure I'll buy it anyway; not because I'm a particular DC or MK fan, but it's a fighting game, goddamnit, and we haven't had nearly enough of those lately. SFIV is my real hope, but this...this looks entertaining. Color me cautiously optimistic.

Cogito

The tagline from the 2nd MK movie keeps running through my mind when I think about this game: "Destroy all expectations."

lol

def PD

Not to nerd out for a bit, but it's really easy to justify MK in the DC universe when you throw the DC Multiverse concept into it. Hell, compared to everything else DC's done with the idea, MK characters interacting with DC characters is totally feasible.

And i have to say i enjoyed all the last-gen MK games, and i almost never did the fatalities. dunno what to tell you, wasn't a big factor for me.

XivGNP

No fatalities is a mistake. its the one thing no other game can begin to claim and most wouldn't dare.

But to abandon the one thing that made it different than any other fighting game --- and GET RID OF IT -- rather than improve upon or change its structure is w-r-o-n-g.

I don't mind added DC in there - hell they could've added Disney in there and I'd still be pumped to see Goofy use his acid piss to melt away someone's torso.

FAIL!

MistaSergio

Not that it really needs to make sense but really MK's fiction makes it REAL easy to crossover with other stuff. The entire story is based on portals to different realms and worlds. The DC world is just another realm to the MK-verse. Plus it's not like DC is shy on making multiple realities (Earth-2,3, and 4 anyone?).

Again I don't think it really even matters if it make sense story wise as long as it works.

That said....I still don't have high hopes for this game.

Guitaratomik

I'm watching this video and listening to Ed Boon talk about the game mechanics and how the finishers won't kill people but they'll still be over the top; And then, my eyes start to wonder down the page to Fahey's comments and I see:

"No. There is no way in hell you can make this pairing make sense."

This made me laugh.

Josimba

No fatalities = a missed opportunity. Superman cooking his opponents Scorpion-style with his heat vision. Batman decapitating people with his bat-a-rangs.

Even so, if it has a solid control scheme, they could throw in Mighty Mouse and Spike Spiegel for all I care.

Captain Impulse

@QualityJeverage: It's more because it was Soul Calibur 4, and not Soul Calibur VS Star Wars.

But meh, the SC story has always been crap anyway. =P

Ashurahori

@Dauragon C. Mikado:

Batman will not be doing any fatalities. Because they took them out when they put the DC characters in.

And that, sir, is why it matters.

karasu is my homeboy

Looks interesting, but they haven't sold it to me yet.

Ahsayuni

Part of me wonders why the game couldn't be M-rated...I mean, DC comics have plenty of violence. Maybe not the ultra-classics, but there is plenty of violence in them. I mean, Batman vs. Predator? A shattered spinal column? How could we not make that a fatality?

Cogito

"You got DC in my Mortal Kombat!"
"You got Mortal Kombat in my DC!"

In all seriousness, the game looks like it could be decent. I'm wondering how they will work out the exact fighting dynamics...will Superman be able to fly? Will Batman have a grappling hook, etc? It should be interesting to see what happens with this title.

There is only one thing we know for certain at this point: Apache Chief is going to kick some major ass!

Goataroo

Here's why this crossover cannot work:

Mortal Kombat Vs. DC

There's a "C" in the title, and one they cannot simply chane into a "K"! Because if you tried, you'd get "MK Vs. DK", and everyone knows Donkey Kong would stomp them all.

BPMγ

the problem is that this isn't a mortal kombat game anymore. Mortal Kombat games are prized for their insane fatalities/animalities, and intense, bloody action.

With DC, you can't even pull fatalities on characters anymore. Maybe they'll replace fatalities with something not as violent, but already it wouldn't be the same.

Although, I am a tad bit interested at this fighting mechanic that other games "don't have".

DigiMish

But theres still no FATALITIES!!!! I NEED THEM!

skelator316

I never understood why it even mattered for crossover games like these to make sense. If it's fun, then why not do it!

This reminds me of the hilarious "controversy" with the Soul Calibur fans who were pissed that Darth Vader and Yoda went against canon. Come on!

QualityJeverage

@Beyene: Fly around the world to reverse time and kill their parents. It would be AWESOME.

Erwin

@Beyene: laser eye lobotomy

bigman88zz

I don't understand how this is any less crazy than Marvel vs Capcom. If Ryu can fight Wolverine, then Batman can fight Scorpion.

Trust me, any explanation in this game will make exactly as much sense as any comic book crossover

Stop sippin that haterade people.

Dauragon C. Mikado

When he said something about superman not killing. I was like like
"OMG! WHAT WOULD SUPERMANS Finisher look like if it was m-rated?"

Beyene

Stop saying "whatnot"

Gomerboy

Was it just me or did he almost say he played Batman games? Nice save by switching to buying Batman comics.

Sober

BlazBlue, Arcana hearts 2, Tekken 6, Kof XII...

MkvDC, what!? ;[

00000000

@Cogito: How can SFIV be your real hope when there are better games coming out this year?!

Zwei Voltage

I felt bad because I couldn't stop laughing while watching the interview. The reason why I never really had this problem with the MvC crossovers was that it had a company behind it that knew their fighting games (at the time). But right now, we're dealing with a company like Midway, and (3D) MK isn't exactly great.

Zwei Voltage

Fahey, with all due respect you are being a total idiot. Who cares if it makes sense or not? Its a game, no, its mortal kombat. Does mortal kombat abide by laws based in reality? NO! The whole character of Superman is a bit ridiculous considering his only weakness is super rare meteor rock, but even then guess what? He still has formidable opponents and has even died!

Lets look at Marvel vs Capcom. Most of marvels characters could totally massacre the sf characters, but you know what? It doesn't matter, it's a fighting game.

NoahSteam

*laughs* Y'know, as weird as it sounds, I've always played fighting games for the story.

Personally, I've got a grudge against any fighting game that takes two completely different universe ideas and tries to combine them. I've always been partial to Capcom vs. SNK, rather than comething over the top like Marvel vs. Capcom, where they have to greatly exaggerate many characters moves to keep things even.

Chadthecavalier

@Seroth: Exactly! They should just approach the game like "okay, this doesn't make the slightest bit of sense, let's go. Enjoy." That'd do it for me.

If they're going to instead start flailing around and trying to wrap some kind of coherent story around it (seriously, not possible), it's just going to get embarrassing.

frostcircus

22 characters? For a crossover game?

That's like 30 too few.

RonCey

I found it to be an interesting video and whatnot.

unmarkedone

@Cogito: Ah, I can understand that then, but you really should try GG, it's like the perfect fighting game. KI was fun, it still is (to me at least), I occasionally play KI2 every now and then.

Zwei Voltage

This game is going to suck because the fighting mechanics, if the past games are anything to go by, will still be painfully outdated. Hell, I always thought the first games were a more violent, poor man's SF.

The only way I could ever see myself buying this game is if there was blood, fatalities, comic book characters that I actually want in a game, like Captain Carrot, Judge Dredd, Hellboy, Harvey Pekar, Dragon from Savage Dragon, then maybe, maybe we'll talk Midway.

Thorax

@00000000: Blazblue? Arcana Hearts?...Man, I need to get out more. I've never heard of either of 'em.

Cogito

Well at least HE seems excited about this game... Boon.

gusiskirby

@Zwei Voltage: I mean, fighting game-wise. I never really got into the whole "superfastwich" games, a la Guilty Gear, and I've never once played a KOF game. I was always big into Street Fighter, MK...the mainstream stuff. Also, Killer Instinct (the original one, not gold, although it was decent for the time) was like crack.

Cogito

Alright, so the premise makes no sense. At the very least, make the gameplay fun and responsive. I've had enough of the clunky feel of 3D MK games.

ChiChi_BBQ

Why bother, it's a fighting game and a comics series, it's not going to make a lick of sense no matter how you cut it.

t0yrobo

I'm just happy that Boon seems excited and actually has a vision for this, rather than "hay u know what would be wacky? if we threw in some comic book characters!! instant good game!"

Crawl to China

@00000000: Yeah! You tell 'em.

I can't wait for BB....

Zwei Voltage

I haven't liked DC since..ever...and I haven't liked MK since MK4 on the 64...but I am VERY excited for this title.

TheHeartless

After what they promised with Armageddon's story mode...and what we actually got...yeah, I'm not expecting anything to make sense.

Any Mortal Kombat without the M rating? Fun. Next can we have South Park vs. Rugrats? It'll completely be South Park without the foul-mouthed children!

TRT-X

There's something wrong with the audio in that clip. I see Ed Boon's lips moving and I see him gesturing, but all I hear is "lame fail shit jump fail shark sellout fail weak fail betrayal fail weak lame shit lame fail" repeated over and over again. :/

silkylove

@Dauragon C. Mikado: Exactly my point. I don't remember video games ever having to be rational.

Off to another topic, I have always been a minor fan of MK's semi-convoluted story, however the fighting engine simply hasn't done it for me in the past few years. You'll always see me go back to Street Fighter 3 or DOA. I'm hoping Boon can overcome everyone's expectations, and perhaps give this crossover everything it deserves.

MarshmallowMark

If they can essentially make it an actually good Marvel Nemesis, only with MK and DC characters, I might consider it to be a purchase once the price goes down. Might.

GhostWhoWalks

No wonder Jon Tobias left.

CancerMan

Sure, Superman is weakened by magic-- But what about the other heavy hitters they're sure to have in the game?

Wonder Woman isn't particularly vulnerable to magic, and she's able to go toe-to-toe with Superman on one of his good days.

The Green Lantern doesn't have problems with magic unless it's yellow, and he's about as powerful as they come-- Godlike, even.

The Flash would move too fast to even be seen on the screen if they were true to the comics.

Obviously, they're going to cripple the DC characters, and then give some lame explanation for why it makes sense... When it really, really doesn't.

And why did Marvel vs. Capcom work? Well, in my opinion it kind of sucked, but that was a later generation of Street Fighter and I was all about SF2...

But MvC worked because Marvel heroes aren't godlike. They're flawed and mostly mortal.

Superman moves planets. Even weakened by magic, he'd be able to knock Liu Kang's head off with a pinky flick.

And Green Lantern need not fight at all--- He can just encase his enemy in a bubble and consider the fight over. It's not like Sonia could kick her way out of a Green Lantern ring's energy field.

Oh, yeah-- And most of the DC heroes can fly: Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, J'onn J'onzz--- How would someone like Johnny deal with a flying superhero who can lift mountains?

The only characters in MK that are in DC's power class are the immortals and gods, like Raiden. Most of the MK characters are on a lower power scale than a Batman villain.

They should have made MK vs. Power Pack.

ZeroCorpse

Obviously it's gonna suck ass.
The only reason to play MK over SF2 back in the day was for the Fatalities. That's what made it "Mortal".
Remove those and the entire premise for the game goes out the window. IF you don't kill people it's not MORTAL Kombat, is it?

Dajmin

Nononono, the short answer this will suck because the base material blows. Mortal Kombat is the joke of the fighting game community. They try so little to make the gameplay anything other than shallow that nobody even remotely good at fighting games can take them seriously. Also, this will be the Mortal Kombat team's first attempt at a game using DC's characters.

Capcom, see, Capcom doesn't suck. They actually care about making a game that's a GAME, not an interactive movie where the only appeal is that people rip eachothers' heads off at the end. Second, Capcom worked its way up to Marvel vs Capcom. They'd already made several superhero fighters, then they made the first step with X-Men vs Street Fighter, then expanded it into Marvel vs Capcom, then topped it all off with the insanity of Marvel vs Capcom 2.

There were about 4 or 5 games that led up to Marvel vs Capcom and Marvel vs Capcom 2.

RyGuy

I could easily see this happening with image characters but DC has the most powerful super heroes in all of comicdom story isn't going to make sense.

Unless they pull a JLA vs Avengers thing where their powers are stronger or weaker depending on the universe they are in...

pokebud

dude DC does crazy shit with alternate universes and shit they could just say that mortal kombat came from an alternate earth. making it make sense won't really be that hard. what will be hard is making it not a shitty game.

demonknightinuyasha

I don't see how it's any worse that Batman vs Predator or even Marvel Vs DC... lay off it for a bit why not?

kowloon

I don't know why so many people are upset over Superman being nerfed due to magic. Outworld is a MAGIC relm. It only makes sense that he'd have a lot less power. Magic affects him greatly.

Does anyone else fell that the "Fight while falling" thing looks cheap and gimmicky?

Shigamado

I'm buying it.

Wa-Keen

Who cares about logic? It's a crossover! All the two factions have to do are fight for a bit, and then realize they're actually on the same side and team up against a greater evil (or villains from both worlds, who have also fought for a bit before deciding they want the same thing and teaming up).

MrPerson

I always hated MK because I couldn't stand the fighting style, it seemed to try too hard to be "realistic", and I was never big on the magic which is why I prefer Tekken, but I think I might try this....

Werrick

At least if you give Batman an uppercut, you'll hear "TOASTY!"

TwinkyC

@Beyene: His finisher would be "Monkey Steals The Peach"...

why not just do a Marvel vs DC ?

thurstonkillgore

I think putting Super Man in a game means its destined to fail, Super Man is just really unlucky in everything he does D:

BassForever

Superman and Wonderwoman could kill almost every Mortal Kombat character with a single blow.

Even the SNES Mortal Kombat with sweat instead of blood had fatalities.

chinesedentist

@Dauragon C. Mikado: I wish to subscribe to your newsletter, as you have pretty much summed up my thoughts on the matter.

If the game plays well, who cares what characters are in it.

Handsome Fat Man

@loligasm:

lol u meen hype umk3 up and umk3 is shit

lol fail

Dekabreak

Boon always does this, he hypes it up; and its the biggest steaming pile of s**t once released!

loligasm

@loligasm:

Uwe Boll does a better job talking up his movies.

expansionsss

That's a pretty convenient way to explain things. Let that be a lesson for any storyteller struggling with continuity. Blame it on magic.

amponymouse

I honestly don't know why anyone WANTS this to make any more sense than it already doesn't.

"This is the raddest shit I ever seen!"

liquidnumb

i honestly dont get why they dont get why we dont have a "licensing nightmare"
game, in which you have the SSB brawl roster, marvel, capcom, DC, SF, and every other fighter ever, along with master cheif, the heavy from tf2, gordon freeman, etc.
it wouldnt even have to have gameplay, it could just be prerecorded.
i would pay 50$ to see master cheif, solid snake, the heavy, and mario fight.

roflwaffles

DC would PWN! MK anyday.

3i19i3

they do this kind of storyline in comics all the time so it really isn't that ridiculous, storywise, but honestly aquaman alone could defeat all the MK roster by himself!!!!

freespeech