@Archaotic: Until we know what they'll do with the sequels, I'd hardly say that's an accurate conclusion.

The biggest drawback was lack of replayability and/or variety, and if that gets addressed in sequels, I think they'd have an even bigger success.

karasu is my homeboy: I agree that the existing hiding process is "silly" and could definitely be improved by more accurate enemy A.I., as well as getting your abilities back quicker/earlier in the game.
Your other points didn't bother me as much - but I think having more control in combat would be a plus.

@doesntlikedede, symphony_of_the_night: Yes, that was very funny. An attractive woman produced a game so it must sell well but has to be terrible...
...even though I was sold on getting this title years ago when I heard about its premise - and loved playing it from start to finish.

Arttemis

I thought it was "okay" at best. The voice acting was "meh", and it was really monotonous in many parts. Try mixing things up a bit for once eh Ubisoft? Also, how about making it to where it doesn't take 82 seconds to exit out of the game on the PC.

+ Watch video

dead_red_eyes

So they're going to be exploiting the IP on an annual basis? That's fucking awesome. I want more dirivitive crap, rather than fresh new innovation. Fuck creativity, give me more sequels, dammit!

/sarcasm

PissedPS3Fan

Bleh...more Ubisoft brand milking. Pretty soon we'll have Tom Clancy's Assassin's Creed coming out.

Archaotic

I got it from game fly. It was okay, but nothing special.

More splinter cell prease.

balls187++

I really liked Assassin's Creed. One of the few games that held my attention long enough to complete.

SPni

@NPlace:
I agree with you, really. I thought the game was great in the realm of the story elements, however, as far as the gameplay goes, I felt very disappointed as time went on. Eventually, I just felt myself grinding my teeth to get to the end. In theory, the concept was exceptionally fun, I mean, who doesn't want to be an assassin? But, the game just left me wanting more for all of the wrong reasons. It wasn't like finishing a great meal and wanting dessert, it was like playing a game of mini-golf, the first half of it was fun, then you just want to get it the hell over with so you can go home and do something different.

AndrewG009

Awesome. The game was just a few tweaks away from greatness IMHO.

Just please ditch the Altair voice actor... truly awful.

Livid

I-I think I threw up a little...

PatMan33

@symphony_of_the_night:

But... then it wont sell 6m copies!

doesntlikedede

This really did seem like a love it or hate it kind of game. Personally I loved it. I didn't find it nearly as repetitive as many people seem to think it is (certainly no more repetitive than a lot of other games) and found the story and, perhaps most importantly, the game world to be very engaging.

I'm glad they are going to keep the series going. Those who didn't like it the first time around don't have to play it. Or they can try the sequel and see if the things they didn't like are different. I will be playing them though.

Aeralindor

@Arttemis: I don't think we'll see Altair again, but I'm going to miss him. It's rare in games that you see a character really change over the course of the story like Altair did.

NPlace

Personally I loved AC, and I don't get all the hate for it. In fact the only criticism I would have for it is the lack of an ending. I'd have much preferred something a bit more conclusive, like the ending to Mass Effect, which leaves room open for a sequel but still ties everything up in a satisfactory way.

photoboy

I was told it was already intended to be a trilogy from the start... Was I misinformed...?

cheeseboybeans

I'd kill for a GTA game with free running. That was my favorite part about AC. Piss off some guard then start leaping around the city like a cracked out spiderman.

InfernoT

I'm still playing it. I found that if you just do one assassination between putting it away for a while, it stays fresh. I did one then played Mass Effect, then I did another then played CoD4, just finished another and now it's GTA time again.

I don't think we'll be seeing more of Altair. I think it'll be that kid in the machine again taking us to another , more recent ancestor's life.

kidko

Playing this game felt like it was taking years off my life.

Manny

Ok Ubisoft i'm looking forward to it.

But give us another one of those endings and i will peronally eat your children.

Cchrist

@NPlace:

I don't hate on it for any reason other than it was no fun. Jade and the gang hyped it to hell about how it was a truly next gen game and going to be amazing in it's control scheme, tasks, graphics, etc.

My problems with Assassin's Creed:

1.Yeah, the graphics were great. But why do I have to awkwardly stand in a weird blurry dimension for 2-3 minutes? Work on the load times.

2.Cutscenes.

3.Fix the sillyness. The whole hiding in 3 objects, lowering your head to enter stealth mode, only being able to eaves drop by sitting on a bench (why can't I just stand...it's closer, really.) A lot of sillyness.

4.I have never felt more disconnected from a character on screen. He did everything while all I need do was aim.

5.There's more, on a large and small scale. Like, I hate when games give me everything and then take it all away, making me work for it again. "Here's all the kickass stuff your character can do. Now we're taking them all away so you have to play for 4 hours to get these kick ass moves back." No, thanks.

I tried to love. I rented it three times, thinking I was just playing it wrong or not being fair. It just wasn't a good game, me thinks.

karasu is my homeboy

Oh god no... XP

Pezdispenser

I loved AC. The freerunning was awesome and so was the combat. I really hope more games take notice of how fun that combination of gameplay elements is. For instance I wish that many of the elements would be absorbed into the next ES game for acrobatic classes. Then that acrobatics skill would be worth something!

FinalFrog

Everyone said whats needed for the next game...

really sucks that everything but the missions lacked quality... even the simple fighting system was fun.

More weapons is so unnecessary, but I bet it's going to be in the next game.

HOVA

@Stevedroid: and buggy console versions to begin with :P

symphony_of_the_night

I personally love the game but I agree it's easy to see the flaws. Regardless,it's great to see a fresh and interesting IP do so well

Dragonzigg

@Arttemis:
Yeah, I want to see different time periods. Perhaps a later crusade in Lithuania, or even the first world war as an assassin!? That would be awesome :D Sneak into cities under wartime, and assassinate people. You shouldn't actually fight the war, mind you.

fusilero

Accompanied by years of buggy PC ports!

Stevedroid

Well Jade isn't doing the sequel so maybe it's going to be good this time...

symphony_of_the_night

I liked the premise of playing in different geographical locations and time zones...

Personally, I don't want to see Altaïr again. There's too much potential for new locals with new characters.
Other than that, I'm glad it will have following titles!

Arttemis

It held my attention enough to finish the game, despite the flaws. And I liked the ending a lot and am intrigued by the dramatic possibilities of a sequel. I DO hope they figure out a way to make the gameplay more varied.

I even kinda liked looking for flags but there was no way to locate them ala Crackdown and no real incentive to get them other than "cheevos".

It's got the building blocks of a great game, but it wasn't quite there. I did enjoy it for the most part though.

lionkitten

It's interesting, some people really liked this game, while others loathed it. Though the game had repetitive mechanics, I found the game really interesting in terms of story, gameplay, enviroments, ect. I had fun playing it, though I was hoping for more Prince of Persia puzzle gameplay. I'm looking forward to the sequel. (Imperial China?)

I just want to know, why people think it's not fun. Is it the combat? The story? I don't think the repetitiveness of the game is a negative quality, that urks some players.

raptorsrevenge

@Chances: That plus remove those collection quests for info.

InfernoT

I feel as if Assassin's Creed is one of those games that it's cool to hate on. But I loved the first one, even if it dad have its problems. Things for the sequel:

1. Keep going with the story, don't change it because people can't understand it.

2. Have actual MGS-style cutscenes instead of watching story sequences from an unmoving third-person perspective. You've got great characters, a great story, let us see them up close.

3. Yes, more variety, less tedious traveling.

NPlace

I know theres quite a negative reception of the game but for mer personally, I enjoyed it and it was certainly worth my $60.

I just hope the sequel doesnt have repetitive missions and a better story (the events leading up the ending and the ending itself sucked amirite?) because in fairness, mainly the reason why I enjoyed the game was climbing and jumping around stuff =x

doesntlikedede

@karasu is my homeboy:
Indeed. This was the most disappointing game of 07. Not worth the purchase price... Not worth half the purchase price.

Demonbird

Oh, and
(4) I don't need to hear my assassination target's rationalizations for his evil ways between killing him and running from the guards. Way to break the flow!

Still, I love this game.

Chances

Tips for Assassin's Creed 2:

(1) Play Odin Sphere and FFXII. See those pausable, skippable cutscenes? Yeah, do that.

(2) Let us go back and play through any Assassination without having to ride all the way down from the mountain.

(3) Give us a new game + where we keep all our cool moves/gear!

Otherwise, do what you did in the Original Assassin's Creed, only a little better. Assassin's Creed is an awesome game.

Chances

Assassins Creed was awesome for about 1 hour. If they added a bit more variety into the missions it would be perfect.

CYG

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo

Kyle81

Was there any mention of adding, you know, that feature called "fun" in the next installment?

karasu is my homeboy

@suburbancowboy:

Since it was central to the plot of the original, and moving it to a new time frame would be impossible without it, I don't see that happening.

I liked it anyway.

PapaBear434

I loved the game, but disliked going back in and playing again due to the fact that the last save put you right before the final assassination, of course dropping you at the beginning of a very long unskippable cut scene.

I would have gone back to just enjoy running around and killing random folks, but I couldn't stand listening to that windbag again and again and again. So, I traded it in for GTA4.

I'll buy the sequel, Ubi, but work on the "endgame." We need something to do once the story is complete.

PapaBear434

The Sci-fi aspect of it was unnecessary.
Ditch that for the sequel.

suburbancowboy

ah God, I just hope that they dont start to milk AS as FF or other games.. (-_-) Im sure that they could finish the story of the game in the next 1 or 2 games.. :|

Shad0X

The whole game was pretty meh, but it was one of the better and intriguing stories of the year i tell you. That kept me going all throughout, they have a killer story here...it seems they really put much focus on the presentation and all and forgot make the fun last for the whole game. I'll be getting the second, or renting, for the story and narrative alone.

vx2

@cheeseboybeans: I heard that this is supposed to be the start of a trilogy as well. A lot of people say the story sucked, but they put a lot more effort into it than a lot of games do these days. And that's why the story seemed to leave you hanging at the end, because there's going to be 2 more games. I think?

JoRo1986

Gabe from Penny Arcade had it pegged - this was a game you had to take your time with. Treating it as a tasked to be finished would make it feel redundant.

I really, really enjoyed the game and took my time playing it. I LOVED the fighting controls, the graphics, and the story was interesting enough. I'm hoping they move the setting/time for the next one. I'd like to explore a new area with a new cultural backdrop, etc (not that the hold one was bad - I mean, how many games let you play in old school Jerusalem?)

SuedeGopher

@karasu is my homeboy:

Amen, brother. The game looked great, if only there was anything fun or interesting to do . . .

DugDawg

ok i will buy the second install ment if they do the following things.

loose the regorously enforced speed limits for horses trotting round at 3 mph IS NOT FUN!!

bring back cutscenes. i love cutscenes they have the ability to give you a fun spectical and pass on important info about the plot. endless dialogue with nothing to do but walk around in a circle is annoying.

lastly. variety is the spice of life, ubisoft. if you could just strech your game creating imaginations to more than just three kinds of side missions id be impressed. it doesnt need to be GTA it just needs more than the same mediocre tasks over and over again.

also more assassinations........ and some cake

sweenyJ

Ooooh, can't wait for Ubisoft's next "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Assassin's Creed: Vegas 3: the Sands of Chaos Theory!" Sounds like a win to me!

blackmanfu

The free-running open ended-ness of it was pretty cool, but it just got so monotonous. Why am I going to do all six informer challenges when the assassination is going to be the same no matter what? It lacked a level of interactivity that you sort of expect from an open ended game. In GTA and Hitman the game always follows a defined script, but how you accomplish the missions is largely up to you. That's what the game was missing... and skippable cutscenes I mean what the fuck?

@PissedPS3Fan:

To be fair, the first one was hardly a one off. They've planned to exploit it for years to come so it's not necessarily derivative.

anonymousryan

Was it just me who thought that you sort of 'steered' Altiar, rather than actually made him do that acrobatic stuff? In PoP you had to time the acrobats and stuff. In AC, you just... did them.

dunnace

I loved AC, but I'm a sandbox-type fan. I even loved Crackdown.

But I think Ubisoft just did right with using Jade to pimp the game. I think without her, it might not have done as well. I don't find her all that special, but lots of people do.

Hell, next time Ubisoft makes a clone sequel *cough*Vegas2*cough*, they should just have Jade pimp it.

dunetiger : the mekuri master

just got the first one. Not too irked by everyone's gripes yet.

I also enjoyed Way of the Samurai, which I think has some similarities so far as pacing and the sense of having an in-world presence.

I'd play a sequel, but it seems like a series that would do the next gag instead of doing the old gag twice.

Tubatic

@Arttemis: you re wrong , i said his name, i didn't say the game was bad because she was a woman...
i want to see you in the Uwe Boll's posts saying:
"oh, you re saying that Uwe Boll's movies sucks because he is a man and german.."

come on... the girl did a bad game, i would say the same if she was a he...
(but the thing that i agree is that ubisoft used her to sell more copies, and that's all right, it's part of the job )

symphony_of_the_night

@kidko: Same here, I am basically doing one assassination at a time. I find its not so bad if taken in extremely small doses.

execrationist

Assassin's Creed was fucking terrible. And I think Ubisoft knew it, seeing as they were surprised to as how good it sold.

el.sand.bag

With a few minor changes, the sequels will be some of the best games ever.

They really need to add more variety to the side missions and make each assassination truly unique. AC really needed more assassination options, similar to one of the recent Hitman games, where you can approach the target from a variety of angles and use weapons, traps, poison, and other strategies to take them out, rather than just taking on the target and his 10 body guards at once, and killing everyone in a long swordfight.

unmarkedone

@dead_red_eyes:
I thought the PC version was the best. Never had a crash on my system as some people have had. Maybe it's because the only setting I don't have maxed is the shadows which seems to slow everything way down.
But I agree it takes forever to exit the game. Usually I alt+tab then ctrl+alt+del to end it.
I'd like to see them stay true to the story though and not try to milk the IP till it's dead.

brennan

@fusilero: They could potentially do that with the story set up. With the Animus, they could potentially tap into other of Desmond's assassin relatives. Something in WWI would be awesome, in France or something.

The only real problem I had with the game was what PapaBear434 mentioned. I wanted to go back after I finished the game and find all the flags, but I couldn't stand sitting through a cutscene every time I loaded the game up.

peAr_nectAr

Nice concept, really did kinda like the whole memory machine thing...but the mission do get repetitive FAST. Anyways, between studying for finals and everything else, it didn't hold my attention long enough to finish (while I DID finish RSV2 with a floormate)

so you do the math....

NeoXY

Needs more cowbell. Good game, just lacked the "oomph."

One of the most fascinating things about AC (for me anyway) was how much I hated Altair, character and VA, at the beginning of the game... and how I slowly changed my mind into thinking what a cool-sounding badass he was in the end. One of the biggest 180s for a video game character I can remember.

Xiedo

Loved the game. Theres a few minor flaws but the feeling you got taking down guards and holding off 5-6 guys at the same time was an awesome feeling. The Parkour aspect was well executed & fun as hell. Props to Ubisoft for making such a fun game.

Nexus6

@Fireblast:
you do if you're awesome... or want to die...

LittlestLamshi

@raptorsrevenge: Ever see the swinging the sword animation? You don't swing a sword like a baseball bat.

Fireblast

@Arttemis: I don't want to see him in the next either but that's because I thought he was an unlikeable bastard... he was supposed to be fighting on the side of God yet all he wanted to do was kill people regardless of what his master had told him to do.

Kid-A

This game was like mating Martin Scorsese with Paris Hilton. They may be in the same industry but they will, never, ever be bedfellows. And, I add, should not be.

Please, make an Assassin's Creed character I care about, not who is the pretend ancestor of some whiny, smarmy dude who can't break his way out of a hospital in 1984. Forget the whole future/past nonsense, and since you make an engine which really places me "in the middle ages" then PLACE me in the middle ages.

While you're at it, please, no Zelda-Final Fantasy -ish endgame bosses, either. Make a personal historical epic that is truly epic and truly historical, something no game company has ever managed to do.

Mohican

I find it amazing how much hate and how much love there is for this...I'm not really sure what to call it. Was it a mediocre game or a really awesome tech demo. But if its anything it's certainly an object lesson to game designers. If your game involves a lot of walking slowly, picking pockets or SITTING ON A PARK BENCH EAVES-DROPPING ON CONVERSATIONS you might want to play test your game and make sure it's actually fun.

My biggest problem is constantly being chased while riding from city to city. You should be able to travel at a trot without bringing every swordsman in the Holy Land down on top of you.

worsethannormal

hahahahaahahhahahaha how did such a broken game sell 6 million copies? Proof postitive that the hype machine will help sell any game regardless of how crappy it is.

LeLoi

It was a great game.

But it really killed my enjoyment of video games once I did beat it. Before playing it I would play my 360 almost every night, after beating it I didnt touch my 360 for probably 2 months, and even now I only play my 360 maybe once or twice every two weeks.

Jamaces

@Jamaces: I did enjoy it, but I thought the ending was a let down. It was essentially a wall of text, which I feel could have been much better pulled off with a cinematic. Still though, look forward to any new games in that vein.

rdj

It's pretty much PoP lite. I felt it was a step back from Ubi's re imagining however. They may have added some cool features, but in doing so they removed the challenge, and (to me) the point in playing.

Lov3

@dead_red_eyes: Just ALT+F4 it. That said, the game is really, really dull. I love the idea of it, but the execution is not very fun.

Yuki

With that shitty ending there better be a friggin' sequel

mferrari

@worsethannormal: It's a stealth game. Stealth games are naturally slow-paced. (see Thief 2 as another good example)

Petezah

@Demonbird: AGREED Such a waste

Barf#1

This is expected but good news, for me at least, as I am a huge fan of the first game.

Captain Impulse

Hopefully the next time around they will it with more compelling content and release more than one competent version. Yes?

Replica23

Well now that the tech demo was approved my 8 million people they can start making the game...

Wolf_Dog

It was a flawed game for sure, but I saw it through to the end so I can't have found it that bad. The story that I scoffed at initially I actually found quite involving. But yes more variety would be nice, and the idiotic "I'm hiding in some flowers to make the guards run away' was moronic.

TearsandScreams