@Archaotic: Oh, wait. Someone beat me to it.

FIRST!!!

@Archaotic: Future Combat, huh?

Doesn't that fall under Halo 3, Killzone, Haze and any other shooter that takes place in the, I don't know... future?

I think that's why Modern Warfare is so great. It takes place now. Were already inundated with shooters that take place in WWII, and the future.

FIRST!!!

Umm for those that said "yet they go back to WWII", I believe Infinity only developed COD 1 and 2, with "3" left in the find hands of Activison lackey Treyarch. I guess CoD 5 is back in the hands of Treayarch or however you spell it and it will be a WWII setting. Really for as much as people bitch about EA fuck Activison, there is no way CoD 5 will be as good as this and they know it, why can't they just keep shitting on the Tony Hawk and SpiderMan properties, I cried red tears of blood when they got Guitar Hero and I'm not suprised how shitty a slight bit of lag ruined it and then they went with the biggest sell out band of all time Aerosmith for the next game. That all being said CoD 1 was one of the best mp games ever made, tons of fun so to speak. Just look at the numbers Halo 3 is dead in the water compared to COD 4 online.

Pornosaur

@Balance_In_Life (PSN):
Well, I'm not talking aliens when I say "Future Combat". I'm thinking more along the lines of "near future but with a twinge of sci-fi". Like Metal Gear or Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter. My reason for it is pretty simple, too...

I'm just so damn sick of seeing the same exact tired, generic weapons game after game after game...would it kill people to inject just a little bit of creativity into weapon design? I commend them for their loyalty to realism, but we've seen it all before, and that's what bugs me. It's nothing new, it's just the old standard polished to a golden sheen.

I honestly think that Infinity Ward has really done all they can do with the terrorist setting, lest they end up remaking the same game over and over again with a new name for the main bad guy a la the Tom Clancy series. In my opinion, there's nowhere else for IW to go but onward and upward.

Archaotic

@Darthearl: last i heard(january) halo 3 had sold 8 million copies. i would venture to geuss that halo is current in the 9 million ballpark. i say this because im sure microsoft will yell it from the roof tops when halo 3 passes the 10 million copies sold mark

kickass solo just got the RRoD :(

@Archaotic: Not to get back into this here. But I mean what really is safe these days? In the P.C. era that we are in, a "terrorist" shooting game even as good as this one caught a ton of flak even though the man villain a Russians and not from the middle east. If you went with the "Us vs. Aliens" it wouldn't sell as well. Future Combat could work but in a different franchise, it isn't what COD5 should be set around.

The reason why COD4 sold like hot dogs at a beer festival is because it's so damn relevant. Every day you turn on the news you hear about whats going on with the war. COD4 managed to sell so well because it's a lot like whats going on in the world today.

Also I think I can honestly say that most gamers are tired of Nazis. The only real way is to do COD5 would be to stay on it's current (UNBROKEN) track.

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

@Darthearl: This is Halo 3 back in January at 8.1 mil. No clue exactly where it is now.

Pretty amazing for COD4, I must say. I would argue that it isn't substantially innovative, but it is one superbly crafted game and SP is a top-notch cinematic experience. Online isn't too shabby, either, in the vein of Counter-Strike.

Xiedo

Infinity Ward should really think about a dynamic environment for the next CoD game. Don't get me wrong, CoD4 was amazing, but nothing that CoD1 didn't do, save for the multiplayer.

DigiMish

@Balance_In_Life (PSN):
It's funny, too. Activision did the same thing with Guitar Hero...and look at what happened. The original creators ended up putting out a vastly superior product in the form of Rock Band while Activision's whore-out team put out a by-the-books sequel easily packaged for mass-market consumption.

It's damn good business, but it's horrible for the customers. And people wonder why I generally avoid Activision products like the plague.

Archaotic

I was surprised to find this game brand-new for $40 at Best Buy in December. Couldn't pass up that deal so I bought it.

Gen16Snes

Hard to believe. A while ago (few years) I was surprised a game sold 6 million copies.

Voteforme2020

@b1t0: If thats the case then I'll freaking wait. I don't mind waiting if I know the game is going to be a quality game. Thats how you don't ruin a franchise. They put out that steaming pile of poo named COD3.

Infinity Ward - "HEY Treyarch, what are you doing in here?"

Treyarch - "Coat-tail riding..."

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

@Balance_In_Life (PSN):
I agree. I don't really care for the 'modern combat' angle either, and I'd kill for a Call of Duty 5: Future Combat, but we both know that's never going to happen. So I guess another "shoot terrorists" game is a little better than "shoot Nazis again"...

Archaotic

Hmm...come to think of it, I don't know whether to be proud or not that I'm not one of those nine million.

Then again, my neighbor played the entire campaign on my 360 because he kept bringing his hard drive over to my place, so it's not like I have any reason to play it now. I don't do online multiplayer unless it's co-op these days...

Archaotic

@Archaotic: Seriosuly though. WW2 is so played out! I'm tired of it seriously. Bring back a TRUE sequel to Soap's team (whats left of it anyway) OR bring back another amazing story like they had before just with MODERN warfare. Shooting Nazi's is fun and all but give me an Silenced MP5 any day of the week!

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

@Monte2: like this 360= 8,000,000... PC= 999,999 and PS3 = 1 lol... i kid kid! (i have both ps3 and 360 but I cant kid myself like the 360 isn't where I'm always playing..)

b1t0

@b1t0:
Ya, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Harsh reality but that's the way it is going to go.

Ignorance's Enemy

Maybe we'll luck out and Activision will be so pleased that they'll cancel the present WW2 version of CoD5, and put Infinity Ward back to work on a real sequel.

...wait, who am I kidding. This is Activision we're talking about. Bring on the farmed-out sequel!

Archaotic

I wonder how that breaks down into the amounts sold on the three platforms (360/PS3/PC)

Monte2

CORRECTION.

9,000,001.

I bought my copy yesterday. :-)

akashhhhh

wow! impressive! but question: How many has halo 3 sold? not saying that tto say halo is better..im curious

Darthearl

Since I only got an Xbox360 last week I have yet to pick it up. Probably will after GTAIV becomes boring.

Never I guess :)

cocomo

To everyone out there saying why is Treyarch getting COD well.. they have to. Activision is like EA and wants to make money. So it milks its best franchises like Guitar Hero and COD. Infinity Ward though develops quality. So After COD2 was made what do you think Infinity Ward started working on? That's right COD4. In some of the documents that the Ward team sent to each other COD4 was even labeled as COD3 (saw that in a Game Informer a while back). Well yeah it stupid but you can see how people will just buy COD5 blindly. Kinda wrong in a sense.. using Infinity Ward's rep to make that extra cash..

b1t0

@Highlander Wolf:
Uhmm, whats your address so i can ship you a copy right now? haha.

Ignorance's Enemy

Thats good on their part. They made a good game and it pays off. I guess word of mouth is what helped.

[KU]Shindokie

@Raziel Dune: @Balance_In_Life (PSN):
Last time i spoke with fourzerotwo and burx, they both told me that the whole ordeal was still up in the air. but it would suck if the franchise went back into Treyarch's hand considering the fact that CoD3 completely shattered the experience that CoD2 brought to the next gen launch.

Ignorance's Enemy

Wow. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in a 50 mile radius that hasn't played CoD4 yet.

9 million in 6 months... that's damn impressive.

Highlander Wolf

Playing COD4 as we speak. As a diehard Counter-Strike fan this game is by far the best MP FPS i've ever played.

Nexus6

Yes, well deserved. Such innovation and creative thinking *can* be done by well-known developers within an existing franchise.

Some of the level design in CoD4 is truly inspiring.

Kazzahdrane

@Raziel Dune: Yeah I was wondering about that. Why in the world would you take the series away from Infinity Ward and give it to the people that made the series kinda crap for so many years. If you fix was wasn't broken then you broke it. It's one of those /facepalm moments.

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

OVER 9 MILLION!!!!

That's what happens when you concentrate on making a solid gaming experience instead of standing around circle jerking and praising each other.

Huge Kudos to IW and the whole team.

dunetiger : the mekuri master

and yet...they are going back to World War 2 Still. *shakes head*

Raziel Dune

Thats GREAT and all, but... I feel that I need those map packs. Because I didn't play the last MGO, if I don't like it I'm gonna need something to fall back on.

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

And that is a well deserved achievement for a well made game!!

Ignorance's Enemy

@Archaotic: I have to disagree with you. Infinty Ward created Cod, and then worked on Cod2 which could probably pass as an expansion pack. Nothing from them until Cod 4 which seems at least as multiplayer goes, as solid a game ever released on par with Quake 3 for me. If you don't count CoD 3, which I don't, this is thier "Halo 3" I'm just trying to figure out what old ground they are retreading. They make shooting at people games, that's their niche. I could do witout "monster closets" anymore in single player that's my complaint.

Pornosaur

@Archaotic: Well, not asking if you're a fan, exactly... but I could objectively say Half-life is a creative force in FPS. Just like I, personally, thought BioShock was a rather flawed game, but I'll admit it brought new (or revived) elements to the genre.

Xiedo

@Demaar: You do have to consider (or at least I do) that COD4 was a multi-plat release on 360, PS3 and PC. A lot of previous blockbusters like GTA, Halo, and GT were all exclusive in some way or another. Don't know where you get your numbers from, anyway...

Still really impressive to go 9mil in six months, but that puts a little perspective on it. You sell when you make your game available.

Xiedo

@Balance_In_Life (PSN):
No worries! I hate to double post, but I figured I'd just let ya know it's my time to bow out of the conversation. Got work in the morning and I've been up way too late talking about this stuff!

I'm glad we all managed to discuss it respectfully though. It's always good to see a discussion end with people understanding the others' viewpoints...it gets tiring to have to argue all the time, hah!

Archaotic

@Balance_In_Life (PSN):
Such is the failing of adhering strictly to real-world events and settings. You limit yourself to a very, very strict set of guidelines, and when every single developer working in the genre is following the same guidelines, overlap becomes the norm, as it has nowadays.

I really don't know what the solution is, but the point I'm trying to make is that if Infinity Ward wanted to, or if Activision gave them carte blanche to do so, those guys would be able to make something fresh and new that'd knock all our socks off instead of just retreading old ground for the nth time.

Archaotic

Its a great game why would it not sell this many. I wish a lot of other great games would.

But even though it didn't get as much marketing as games like Halo 3, I think the War in Iraq etc was its marketing.

sargemat

@Archaotic: That was meant for you... not me! /cry

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

I assume those numbers are just based of the NPD and are for the USA only. I know COD 4 has sold at least a few copies in EU, too. Hopefully we'll see some one up manship and COD 5 will be even better, despite the fall back to WW-II.

gogators88

@Balance_In_Life (PSN): You are right though. FPS's have gotten really bogged down for ideas as of late.

@Xiedo: Agreed Half Life and Portal as well as Bioshock all bring a fresh reprieve to the first person shooter world.

(I'm typing this between rounds of COD4! :D )

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

@Xiedo:
Well, if you've seen my rants before you know I'm not exactly a Half-Life (okay, Half-Life 2 specifically, the original was awesome) fan...and I've never played either Condemned game.

But I agree. Infinity Ward is a talented, talented group of people. I just wish they'd work on something aside from mass market-oriented war FPS games. If they created their own IP that was unrelated to Call of Duty, it'd probably kick some real ass.

Archaotic

@Archaotic: Well I do agree but who are we (meaning the allies) gonna fight? Mexico? France? Japan? The only place right now that is "safe" is the Middle East, Russia Terrorist or China. It's been that way for years. I seriously doubt, because of the people that game in China, there is going to be a game that they are the bad guy. Even in most Tom Clancy (GRAW esp) is the fighting done in the Middle East. I'm not trying to say anything here but game devs that are trying to do modern warfare or even future (like 20 years down the road) warfare have to be really careful where they tread. IF went the route they did because it was the safest of the multiple roads.

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

Oh crap. I just realised, those figures are just for the US. So it actually beats even each of the GTA games, Halo games and Gran Turismo games. Jesus!

Demaar

@Archaotic: Did you forget to except Half-life and, if I may sneak in a mostly-melee "shooter," Condemned? I think there are a good number of gems in the shooter category. Never hurts to have more, of course. I could definitely get in on IW doing something outside of war games. Maybe if they ask Activision nicely. Or quit.

Xiedo

It's kind of sad really, I remember when Activison and EA also meant something. Pitfall, River Raid etc... for Activison, all those great 486 games from EA. EA was my favorite company for the Sega Genesis life cycle so many fun games. I guess this is what happens with the new big budget gaming enviornemt. Fuck Treyarch and their CoD 5, make it a Wii only point and click please.

Pornosaur

So, this puts it ahead of... *checks*...Gran Turismo 4, Super Mario Kart, Halo 2, Golden Eye, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy VIII, Half Life, Myst, Ocarina of Time... wow. That's a bit of a mile stone.

Demaar

COD4 is such fantastic quality. The single player campaign is possibly my favourite of all time and the multiplayer, while not without it's faults, is a Halo killer. What a game.

IronsUK

@FIRST!!!:
You say that as if the industry isn't already clogged to death with counter-terrorism games as well.

The entire first person shooter genre itself is in a creative drought, with the exception of BioShock. All I want is a bit more creativity out of developers, and with Infinity Ward's skill and attention to detail, they'd be a great candidate to try and mix things up a bit...if only Activision would let them.

Archaotic

Money in the bank!! Shortie what you drank?!. There printing money over there now.

Thoas

Amazing what hype does. Halo 3 sold like pancakes and the game is kind of lame. I may get bashed for this but I didn't think it was special at all. Yet it sold because it's Halo.

CoD4.. I am not a FPS fan but god damn is this a well made game or what? (I got it for PC, the way FPS' are meant to be played) and this game had little advertising compared to Halo yet it has gone on to sell 9 mill copies because of it's quality alone.

Props! I am not sure what's better, CoD4 or Smash Bros Brawl but both are GREAT

kuhne

@b1t0: Is that kinda how Ubisoft hands trades off development of its Splinter Cell series between the Montreal and the Shanghai branches? The ones produced by the Montreal branch is usually the better quality.

Beezle212

Good on you, Infinity Ward. You deserve it.

Moridin

Not got it yet but I plan on getting the GOTY edition soon

brooza

It's great to see that quality games can make some dosh.

Now I only hope that original and quality games like Okami will succeed.

mcderek3000

That game deserves every million sold. I can't remember the last time I was this engrossed by a multiplayer game. Counter-Strike maybe?

Pinhead

@Pinhead: What no WHL/TW love? D:

Witzbold

9 mil is about $500 mil. That's just f******* wow. Has Halo shifted that much money?

Blake Ruff

This game just killed Halo 3.

kingme

@kylo4: Yeah the third did suck!

TheTime

Can we forget COD 2.5 (I'm sorry, 3) ever happened now?

Hopefully Activision never hands off COD to another developer after this news.

kylo4

I don't have COD4. @-_-@

TheTime

I don't mind Treyarch making COD games. IW wants to make quality games that take 2 years or more to make. In the meantime I'd rather have the option to buy a game than not, even if it's not made by IW. I will always take having the option to experience a new game or not having the option. I don't have to buy it if it gets bad reviews, but there's a possibility that it might be worthwhile as well. I'm optimistic, as well, that as Treyarch gets more experience under they belt the quality of their offerings will go up.

Lixie

this game sold by word of mouth. I bought my PS3 about a month before cod4 came out and the rep at bestbuy told me all about COD4 and how it was being done by the "guy" who did cod2 and that cod3 sucked. He told me to come back on launch day and I did. So gamers have a huge role in determining how well a game does.

canuckistani

@eskimo-bob: That's sure a lot more than NINE THOUSAAAAAND!

Someone had to do it. Might as well be me.

jesp3r

@Darthearl:
@kingme:

Halo sold more on 360 but COD4 is multi-platform so it definately sold more overall and it has serious legs so it will probably keep selling into the end of the year.

You can look at it at who ever sold more doesn't suck as much but that's a rather silly way to see reality. Both games are immensely successful for different reasons. I prefer Halo for various reasons but do agree COD4 is just as proficient of a shooter as Halo.

@kylo4:
COD5 is coming no doubt but it's COD6 that you should be waiting for.

okenny :)

Must.. resist... can't... giving up... It's over niiine-MILLIOOOOOOON!!!!

eskimo-bob

Excellent news, Infinity Ward deserves it big time. This game is simply the shiznit, I paid $10 for the friggin map pack for goodness sakes. Thats says something, because I woould'nt buy certain full XBLA games for $10. Lol>

R3load

I'm one of the few people who didn't like Call of Duty 4. Still, good to see the game has done well for them.

Heyyou27

More maps please.

Project Thanatos

Theres a reason this game continues to show up on monthly NPD sales whereas Halo doesnt.

Im glad most of the talk has gone from Halo(general) to CoD4. About time somebody stepped up to the plate.

The King is dead. Long live the King.

doesntlikedede

COD4 has set the standard for a long time. Will be interesting to see how GTA4 fares against COD4.

zanzibarlegend

What are the figures for each system it was released on? If it's 9 million just for the 360, then that's ridiculous, but if it includes PC and PS3, then it's still impressive but not nearly as impressive as Halo's 360 only sales.

KirbyMorph

Couldn't have happened to a better team.

Can't wait for COD5!

Biscuitcleaver

We will not be shooting Nazis in the next CoD game. I'm pretty sure I heard it's set in the Pacific. No, it's the Japs we'll be killing. Of course, I think it would be cool to be a Jap fighting Americans, a lot like Eastwood's Letters from Iwo Jima. It would turn things around and provide for a much more interesting play experience. Naturally, Americans wouldn't like it, but we're all a bunch of patriotic idiots, aren't we?

vanderblade

I love CoD4, the pacing is great. It's still fast paced yet you still have to take time to bring up your sights and aim. it's freaking great.

I actually bought 2 copies of this game, one for 360 and one for PS3. Play the PS3 version now more than anything else. Less little kids or people with the minds of kids on there, and atleast on my TV the color is alot better on the ps3 version (probably the HDMI and the settings on my TV make it look more accurate colorwise).

Havnt had so much fun on an FPS since Day of Defeat.

The Level design is top notch.

Derigor

@Biscuitcleaver:

erm, infinity ward aren't making CoD5 - that will be treyarch and all their WW2 hideousness.

i think you meant:

"Can't wait for CoD6!"

illocon

@Beezle212: All the Splinter Cell games were openly accepted as awesome. Looking at Game Rankings, they all got ~92/100, with Double Agent the only one below, at 89, which was made by the original team no less!.

Chaos Theory, made by the Montreal team, is considered by most as the best in series (Too bad it's Pandora Tomorrow!).

-shrug-

jynxycat

Reading the Game Informer exclusive on the game when it was first announced, they basically said, "Believe us, it WILL be GOTY."

A year or more later, here we are.

jynxycat

Speaking of money printing machines...

KM91

@kagebutsu:
I'm 4/5 finish with the campain and that's true. There's not much of the story to begin with,the motive is not enough to keep me moving. The action is just kind of so so. Maybe It's because I'm a long time CS player and this new type of gameplay is different for me.

dhlt25

I really don't understand why so many people like this game. I played in the beta and it seemed very average and boring to me.

kagebutsu

Very impressive.

But man, I just don't get it.

I've been a first person shooter fan nearly all my gaming life. I got into PC games when Sin first came out.

I just don't get everyones obesession with CoD4, it just hasn't hit me I guess. Sure, the campaign is way fun and looks absolutely gorgeous on any platform you play on (PC,PS3, or 360). But the online play for me is lacking. Nothing new, almost feels bland to me. Without the XP thing, it'd feel like every other online shooter out there.

Not to bad talk CoD4 or anything, it's just my opinion.

TheOtis

@Balance_In_Life (PSN): GRAW and GRAW 2 both take place in Mexico (Mexico City, and Cuidad Juarez).

.endejas.

Wow so they made $495 000 000 off us and couldn't throw us a bone and give us the map pack for free or at least make more than one original map for the pack,that hurts my fuckin head.Keep in mind i did the math at 55 to remove the retailers take.

SlowDeath420

Money money money muh-nee ... Muh-nee!

Strangelove

WW2? Meh. Playing COD4 I thought a really great hard SF FPS could be built on it. Not BS like the Quake excrement, but something inspired by contemporary military SF.

olafson

that's a crazy number!! Hope they don't screw up the COD franchise...

reptile168

@reptile168: Infinity Ward won't, but Activision /is/ ordering Treyarch to take CoD back into the WWII trenches...
*hopes the suits realize it's doing so well because of both the new setting and Infinity Wards commitment to quality... possibly not...*

Parsifal

Halo got beaten already?

PSMANDEMON