fuck.

NINgod

anyone notice that the playstation forums are down, maybe they expected a backlash on the site too...

dappaute

What? So the Japanese beta is off for a week too??

kiwizz

It's still coming very soon. It's a disappointment, but we'll be playing it this week for sure.

Just think, we'll have Grand Theft Auto IV next week and Metal Gear Solid 4 in two months. This is what it's all about, people.

oldboy313

EPIC FAIL!

Dark

oh well i guess it keeps me from not playing City Of

Xilibrius

@Rockwallaby: LOL!!! Oh yeah, i thought it. Thanks for the laugh.

DanteODiabo

Could be worse, they could start working on it AFTER it comes out *cough* brawl *cough*

K-Squad! (Badass Edition)

This ticks me off because I waited 3 hours for the update to complete then Konami Id conks out on me...

Crooked

Damn this sucks I got to play the MGS 4 demo at tokyo game show but I never tried the Online mode I really was waiting for this.

Ryosukekun21

@John-irl: I still blame the backdoorers. Trying to get into the EU and JP betas despite not being in either region. Then the people constantly whining like this was something they bought. Oh, and don't forget the snarky assholes that conveniently forget that most betas don't start off flawlessly.

Look at it this way. This is a good thing! Unless people want the servers to crash June 12.

Black-Dog-Howls

Even though I have no chance of being in the beta, I was really hoping it would start today, so we can finally see some good footage and rounds of how its going to play etc...

W/e they just underestimated the load i bet, they will get their shit together for the big day, have patience everyone!

Scazza

If anything, this just proves Konami should've found a way to work with Sony to get the servers handled that way.

...I can't help but think that, y'know, USING THE PLAYSTATION NETWORK might have helped too...ah well, I can wait a few days. I was hoping to play tomorrow though.

Archaotic

@zanzibarlegend:

lmao Now that would be a sight to see, especially as I'm waiting for my turn.

I'm expecting places like MGS: TUS to have blown the fuck up about 20 minutes ago with news like this. It's very surprising that Konami didn't anticipate this kind of turn-out, but not much can be done now except wait and see what happens.

I wonder how many folks will not pick up MGS4 because of this (myself not included; it'll take an act of God to keep me away *knocks on wood*)...

AncientFlounder

Man, this is why they have a beta, it's to see wtf was going on and to make sure the launch date of MGS4 isn't this messed up. So while it's pretty freaking chaotic at this point, Konami is hopefully going to have this stuff sorted before the real she-bang happens.

BlinkinPark182

What about the rest of the world. This PR only states US... :D

Kum0

@Witzbold:

Another winning comment!

dead_red_eyes

@cornunderscore2x: Yeah I know, ah well, hopefully it'll be up this week so we can get that extra time.

John-irl

@zanzibarlegend: Why hasn't it been done before?

Rockwallaby

@John-irl: Japanese MGO site has the same headline.

cornunderscore2x

lol ohwell I can wait the 9 weeks until it comes out. Iam buying MGS4 to play MGS4 not MGO, MGO is just an added bonus to an already awesome game.

DaveyPwnckett

@Rockwallaby: Ok it didn't sound that bad in my head

Rockwallaby

@tajash: I blame the backdoor loving Americans

Rockwallaby

@Black-Dog-Howls: Its open in EU, Japan

John-irl

@Witzbold: lol! seriously i think when the beta begins there will literally be a line for the manapult. i expect no kills for least a couple of hours:D

zanzibarlegend

Say kids its time to play the Blame Game. I'm looking at you Europe. Konami dont think you are getting out of this one.

tajash

@Lyrai: i think they did just that... "underestimate" . well we yanks showed them how to shut down a party early!

zanzibarlegend

I blame the people trying to get in through back doors. They always crash things. Stupid people that want to get in backdoor way. It's your fault.

Black-Dog-Howls

man oh man, the only thing worse than having this long-awaited beta delayed is snarky potshots and shit-talking from the haters that aren't in it to begin with, so uh, im out of this one.

TheIrishNinja

So...Konami...now looks like a good time to be crawling to PSN for this one. Don't ya think?

KingBroly

But...but...I want my awesome MAN-CANNON now!

Actually that picture got me thinking: does anyone know for sure that the cannon will be featured in the beta? I'm assuming "no" right now...

DragonSphere

Konami now has a a little less than two months to upgrade servers. Good Luck.

DanteODiabo

*looks at the story picture*

Somebody better tell Icarus to stay away from the sun.

Witzbold

Seems very reasonable. Nothing o whine about, we get another extra week.

DigiMish

I guess this beta was actually a beta then, and not just a promo. Oh well it's not really that important, at least they're being proactive about it.

Replica23

@John-irl: No EU beta :(

John-irl

its pretty much the same thing that happened with the halo 3 beta. If those of you don't remember, it wasn't showing up in the Crackdown Version of the beta, so Bungie extended it by a little bit as most crackdown users (myself included) were not able to hop on.

PenitentPenguin

i say let them take a little bit of time, but deliver heaven at the end, just like in the first mgo, that was a good run

GRAY_FOX

"You maniacs! You blew it up!"

Enough movie references.

Seriously though, holy jesus. How could they not expect this level of users? They know tons of people love Metal Gear Online. Were they just...underestimating? What happened?

Lyrai

It's not too bad. Many people gave up trying for now willingly, I'm sure. They'll be better prepared for the traffic next time.

Heliophage

What about the EU? Not to hopeful..

John-irl

I was really anticapated to play beta now another delay konami sure knows how to torture people.

Jehuty2

Woah, that sucks =\...

Katorok

But Luke, it is only a month and ... oh.

Aflack: Likes slushies

Wow, if the comments on the interwebs are anything like what Metal Gear Solid Online's future audience will be, then I may have to cancel the order that I made for that bluetooth headset...

It's a scientific fact: the amount of bitching that people do based on a beta, directly corresponds with the amount of times I will need to mute my microphone whenever I play a random online match once the retail version is released.

Funnydale

I can't say this surprises me at all, after spending 2 days trying to finally get registered for an ID and most of today getting things downloaded and patched and ready to go. It was so painfully slow I figured today would be a disaster on the servers. I think in the long run it's a good thing at Konami agrees and they're going to order an extra server or two (... hundred) to be sure the REAL game launch goes much smoother than this mess of a beta.

Justin42

Oh well, no biggie. I've been feeling like crap anyway and didn't feel like playing this yet.

gcZanmato

Seeing as how this went over their expectations... Kojima is probably sitting back in his comfy chair and just smiling.

RTW

This was your chance to convince me MGO, because there was no way I would be willing to buy an entire game just for the multiplayer portion of another game. Now the beta will likely start around the 29th. Good thing I won't be doing anything else that day...

TheTriarii

While it does suck that I currently can't play the beta - I do say, score huge for Konami in general as this is a damned good (overwhelming) sign that this game will sell. Good things come to those who wait.

m3rcer

It seems to me that this beta postponing and extention just reinforces the idea that the beta process has just become a part of marketing.

Cruz

@Cruz: Or, they're really doing a beta test and the extension is to see if there are any follow up issues beyond what they can address now.

Black-Dog-Howls

Its bigger than halo, haha

Maaxxx

I'm super disappointed, but it's understandable. Oh well.

Hiroken

POSTPWNED!!

BornToFlail

@Rockwallaby:
And thats why we get along so damn great. Lets make a picnic, but dont invite Japan. They are just too awesome and they will just end up hurting us again.

tajash

This wouldn't have happened if they just used XBox Live.

/because this thread just needs an MGS-on-360 comment.

Frank

Im skipping over the Beta I think. Mainly because I didnt want to play MGS4 before the release of the single player, but now with GTA 4 and all this stuff going on I think Ill be plenty occupied.

slackjawed

This will be a very popular game.

(Captain Obvious!!)

Highlander Wolf

Either Konami sux or this game is getting every PS3 owner everywhere in a tizzy.

Oddly, from the buzz I'm going to say it is the latter.

BornToFlail

*Breaks into song* Tommorow Tommorow its only a day away...
Or something to that effect.

GUNDAM-RX-78-2

wew.... there goes the "no one has a PS3" rant.

Gambare

@Black-Dog-Howls: Probably. But ya'know, I'm just sayin, these days, you hafta wonder.

Cruz

So the press release reads "to stabilize our server"...

They better be joking... They fully expected to run a MGO Beta on a SINGLE machine connected to what, dial up?

I get the distinct impression Konami loaded the server-side software up on to some old NEC they had kicking around the back of the office and then just kinda abandoned it.

Perhaps they DID get authorisation from the money man to buy a new machine, but it was 'redirected' to a staffers desk upon arrival as it was faster at rendering than his/her current workstation.

RogueSquid

lol, Ashcraft bumped this news to the top :D

Kinda bummed this happened but its a beta after all and they can and WILL screw up in a beta. But this mistakes will be unforgibable once a demo or the real game comes out though.

Alex_Mexico

And let comments about the PS3's lack of install base stop NOW

Shin-Kaiser

@PenitentPenguin: I suppose the difference is the Halo 3 beta did work on time, just not for crackdown folks. I and many others enjoyed our extra few days. Some got it late, but it did go out on time. This Beta launch was just botched to hell.

Xer0Ph0kus

@SynKade: Air is not as bad as I expected. God knows they're past their prime though.

mescalineeyes is obsessed with mgs

Dont really care about the beta so I'm sitting pretty. Honestly I dont see why anyone would want to play betas, Ive never seen the appeal. Sure you get to play the game a bit early but it's bugged all to hell so whats the point.

@Witzbold:

I've been listening to Thrices new Alchemy Index Air disc so I laughed out loud when that comment should have simply elicited a giggle (Daedalus is the name of a song on there and its a retelling of the two of them so ya...)

SynKade

Well, at least the ID page seems to finally be working. Now I just have to wait for the servers to come back up and I'm good to go!

Bit short-sighted of Konami to not realise if you open the beta up to so many people for free that most of them are going to take it up. Hopefully all this will result in smooth sailing when the full version comes out!

Silent_Shark

@AntiHiro: Crap, I should always proof read my initial ADHD writings! :)

AntiHiro

^^puts a $100 down that if EA was Publishing this their would have been tons of EA hate post. Hypocrites. With that said.

Konami, get you're to mature of a company to make suck mistakes. The reasoning is ridiculous and used so often you must have went to any other site and copied pasted your message. Blaming traffic to the site is just insulting. Take responsibility for your mistake.

Message should read: We didn't put any thought into server capacity and crossed our fingers the current server would work when it was a passing thought. Besides, red is a positive colour in Japanese culture, so the Red Flags were seen as good.

AntiHiro

Tomorrow it is then!

TaMs

still downloading the patch anyway 11hours 85% i'm seeding 12x faster to two people than i'm downloading from 12

eagle14

@Hatchetforce: my jittering hands respectfully disagree.

mescalineeyes is obsessed with mgs

@Cruz: Existing these days is a form of promotion these days.

Black-Dog-Howls

Considering I lost a total of 16 weeks waiting on all of my dead Xbox 360s to return, I don't think waiting a week on a free beta test is going to be the death of me.

Hatchetforce

epic fail, i blame america's economy... obviously

mabman

Thats why we *need* betas. To test systems.

The tecnicians need to make design decisions, and these decisions could be wrong. Or maybe theres somewhere a service provider that *lie* about capacity.

The theory is different than the praxys.

As a example, there are hosting services that provide "infinite bandwith" for your website. But once you make a popular website, you see a new definition of "infinite".

We sould respect Konami. Shit happends, and seems Konami will work to fix that problems, so the customers, the release day (or maybe the next day) will be happy gamming :DD

Tei

The exact reason why the servers are down is because all of europe logging on at 11 blew up the server.

I was logging in for 5 minutes before it started so i got in exactly at the beginning and the servers were up properly. I got past the start game button and to the character creation screen.

Although it disconnected at the registering character part, i think my character was made because the community page had my characters name on it in the profile.

So it was up at 11, it crashed at 11.01 when all of europe logged on at the same time.

Well played europe, we blew up konami's server. I feel so dirty like i was part of a DDOS attack :(

Shniper

@AntiHiro: People downloading the patch, people trying to log on to the servers, people that managed to connect for a little while, etc. etc.

This note was actually on the MGO site. Not KonamiID site.

Black-Dog-Howls

@Shniper: It's all your fault!!!! RAWR!

Black-Dog-Howls

yea, i don't see what all the whining is about.

they are letting people get a chance at playing the game early to help fix problems so they won't happen at retail (when you have paid for the product and if something like this happens they don't get in to too much trouble.)

We just have to chill and wait an extra few days. This is the worst part of the beta test, the opening. its all announced and given this and that for the most important part, which is the stress test.

We should now have a much easier and more enjoyable experience with the beta when its out for finding out the more minor issues.

You're getting to be part of making metal gear online something good. Surely that is worth an extra day or two's wait :)

Shniper

@Shniper: *calms down*

-MoarPlz-

sadly i'm not too surprise. I'm curious to how many people registered. if you look at the past games, you can see that few people actually pre ordered.

but with the return of metal gear online.. people are going nuts *and i won't be surprise if people found loopholes around the region block.. say, if someone from that country registered you in).

But i consider it good ... at least they didn't do what happened in japan, where only a 'few' people were able to play the beta, after a little race.

They could have been even more nice.. and gave us the training part without being connected.. that would have been cool.

Pawsie

@Black-Dog-Howls:

*sniffle*

I'M SOWWWWWWY T_T T_T T_T T_T

Shniper

It happens. Oh well. I continue playing GT5P in the meantime.

SnakeCL

@AntiHiro: absolutly spot on with the EA comment.

Still Konami are using this to fix problems and stuff so people shouldn't be freaking it out like its the second coming of Jesus.
but when MGS 4 comes out....

excel_excel

@Lyrai: funny. all i've read in threads about metal gear solid games is how the game "doesn't have a big following"

and this is just the online game. wait until MGS4....

jfx316

I think some people owe Ashcraft a very long letter of apology but this is the internet and no one really needs to be accountable for what they say :)

okenny :)

Honestly.... i don't think this would of been a big deal to people if we didn't have to go thru that long drawn out and fustrating process of dling the update and trying to get the konami id. It took me 4 days to be able to get the id. If the process would of been a bit smoother i don't think people would be as fustrated and mad as they are. Its a beta, as long as they get things fixed before the game officially comes out i'm happy.

Dizzle

First of all I would like the say PHEW!!! I forgot my password and I haven't been able to comment for about a month. By some kind of a miracle the password came back to me today.

Now onto the point:

People shouldn't pin much hopes on MGS online as Konami's track record isn't that good with online games, just look at all the lag you experience when you play Pro Evo Soccer, and that's just two people that are connected to one another.

2SBs

Very frustrating. This throws off my gaming schedule.

creid

@Frank: wow. i was waiting for that. i almost posted it, but said "no, i'll not be a jerk this early in the morning...."

jfx316

@黒天使: It's actually almost 2 months away.

Kyle81

I am so, severely let down by Konami and Kojima Pro right now.
I've been waiting for this for months... did they seriously think americans wouldnt rape and pillage small city-states to get in on this beta?

Pilote.de.Ciel

in depth report on the MGO fook up - well through the average british gamers eyes :D

32bitjunkie.blogspot.com

lucky_7s

@Huxle: a beta that is just roughly a month awa from retail release , that's why everyone is scared

黒天使

[uk.games.konami-europe.com]

Same in Europe as elsewhere, just incase anyone was still wondering.

Cheebahawk

I'm actually glad it was delayed.

This means that when I experience it and if I love it as much as I think I will, I'll be able to play it until a closer date to the actual launch of the game.

See, if it went up now, it'd end over a month before the game comes out. Once you've experienced something glorious, and then you have to go cold turkey for a month, that can suck. Now that they'll be extending the end date of the beta, we'll have a shorter purgatory period between the beta and the real deal. That's cool with me. I don't expect that they'll be learning much from us with this thing, anyway... not much they'll do to fix anything except learn how to prepare the servers for launch day, and they've ALREADY learned a good deal about that situation from this whole debacle. It's all good.

Strange Bedfellows

Jesus, it's only a fucking beta. Last time I checked, betas weren't incredible examples of perfect development. It's a damn test stage, so just chill -.-

Huxle

Konami, you fucking idiots should have seen this coming.

Now put the new beta release date after GTA 4 comes out, and see what happens. If that's the case, I'll delete the beta now, because I will play NOTHING else but GTA on April 29th onward.

Tyber_Zann

Konami had a booth at NY Comic Con showcasing MGO. The only problem is the whole booth was down due to the servers collapsing.

bluesquareapple

pwned. again. D:

Sigma-D

A week or 2 will be no problem. They didn't have to offer the Beta at all if they just wanted to do regular testing sessions, they didn't have to put it in with MGS4 either so at least we don't have to buy a standalone product. I don't play a lot online so this is a perfect setup for me, if I enjoy my free "demo" of MGO, I will buy the expanded edition. If I don't have fun, I don't lose any money and still have MGS4 to play round with.

el_rezzo

Why does this remind me of the Halo 3 beta incident?

Sigma-D

Glad I didn't preorder now. At least now I'm not missing anything. Temporarily, anyhow.

2NinjasTapedTogether

That really sucks for anyone who was trying to get in on it. I know I would of if I had a PS3.

Why don't these companies realize that people get exctied about these things and that yes they will be putting some strain on their servers.

FoxHoundADAM

Beta != Demo

Fixing problems like server load before the final product launches is exactly why Betas exist guys. Everyone needs to take a deep breath and find something else to do for a few days.

solidefy

man this sucks :(

i had the day off too..

and now the damn Broken Mirror servers are a fail.

Akmed

Jesus H. Christ.

Let me express my feelings on this like so:

MEH

:( I was so looking forward to it last night. Oh well. Konami, when you do it again, it better be good. Damn good. Or you can just leave it altogether, scratch the MGO bit and just release MGS4.

I can assure you the game will get so much heat for crappy online you wouldn't believe.

Candlejack

I'm not worried about the servers crashing AGAIN when the real game comes out in June. Majority of people will be playing the campaign, not the multiplayer when it's first out. People will finish the campaign at varying intervals and so people will slowly trickle into the online game as they beat the main game. I think the servers will see a gradual increase in traffic from launch day as opposed to just "BOOM! Everybody all at once!" Like what happened last night.

Strange Bedfellows

Well, it's a shame, but just more time to play Okami and Warhawk.

dry-roasted-peanuts

@solidefy: It seems this has nothing to do with the game servers. this has to do with the nonsensical Konami ID system. Beta, Demo, or whatever it is a failure of planning no matter how you spin it.

AntiHiro

@Aflack: Luke Plunkett: 'Good thing Konami are doing all this now, such a loooooong time before the game's due for release, because if they left it to the last minute, people might start to worry!'

ya, good thing, eh?

oh wait, it IS out in a month and a half, d'oh!

LoL @ Sony fanboys.

difference between this and the Crackdown / Halo 3 beta problem is that the download was delayed due to an issue between connection between the disk and the marketplace. it was ready but the system wasn't recognizing it through the disk. but when it was downloaded everyone cud play without issues. here, ppl can download it and then just get stuck not being able to play it.

somehow now im not minding so much the fact that Microsoft runs the servers cuz they know how to do it. obviously some people at Konami cant.

Lanhoj

@2NinjasTapedTogether: you base your purchase on a failed beta launch? you are easily defeated. good thing you're not gonna be on MGO, i would go hunting foryou :P j/K

zanzibarlegend

What worries me is that even the JAP beta is delayed... They went online first, and they're having problems?

what0080

I. . . I spent 5 hours. . . downloading the update. . . and when I logged in. . . it said. . . it said . . . "unable to connect to server"! *sob*

enigma89

*shrugs* It's a beta. If you don't see things like this happen you wonder why they even call it a beta. I'm sure that most big MMO and online game suffered the same situation during one point in it's beta period.

chirokitsune

@Rockwallaby: lol at the horribly worded comment.

on topic - I'm a little dissapointed by this I've been waiting patiently for this Beta since I heard about it only for it to be snatched from my grasp at the last second.....Oh well back to waiting (this time for Konami to fix the servers for us European lot).

randomletters

This is what I posted yesterday. People have to consider the BETA not launched since not one person was able to log in. So check out my post (rant) from yesterday were I said something in the line of if no one can log in the BETA should be considered not Live...lol

JorgieX

@Lanhoj: So if we are Sony fanboys you're a Microsoft fanboy?

Just shut up dude.

Candlejack

Bummer.

ShirtGuyDom

I dont mind if MGO is delayed, I just want my MGS4

latinogamer

I'm gonna be really disappointed if they don't push the release date back because of this. I say give them the time to get it perfect.

unmarkedone

oh well back to GT5

Jackel2072

@chirokitsune: your right but you gotta think of it this way. I have been on the Battlefield,Halo3,Cod4, and Age of Conan betas and the one thing that seperates all of them to this one is that I was always able to log in and produce feed back to the respective companies. This BETA has not even launched yet even though it lauched already. lol

JorgieX

seriously, I am glad this is happening now. When the game releases, we don't have to worry about this. whatever, I got warhawk broken mirror by me :P

Albanian_Killa

@latinogamer: wow, where do I begin.
same thing.

mescalineeyes is obsessed with mgs

@Aflack: Likes slushies: ROFL sarcasm FTW

Seiven

i'm not so eager to preorder this. i was really excited but my attention is wavering.

ultraViolence

@Lanhoj: I dunno, I had a pretty big issue downloading the Halo 3 Beta, my 360 RRODed on me right after the download finished.

superbabyproject

Not sure if anyone else posted this yet, but the beta's been rescheduled to start on Friday (25th).
[www.konami.jp]

StupidityTries

@ultraViolence: you base your pre-order decision on a beta that you have yet to play and you also have a masterchief user picture, so spare yourself the embarassment over a game that will most likely be painfully over your head and just sell your ps3.

mescalineeyes is obsessed with mgs

aww, well at least i bought a new game yesterday ^^

Gekyo

I was so looking forward to this, dammit this blows!

mnml10387

@Frank:
die

NINgod

ok honestly, who didn't see this coming?

sweenyJ

EEEEKKKK!!! At least I don't have my code back from Konami yet, not like I had a chance, so it's not as bad for me.

artofwar420

So now its going to be April 25th with the Beta extended till June 11th.

enewtabie

@enewtabie:

I meant from April 25th to May 11th..

enewtabie

I blame IGN for giving away IDs to their members... j/k. Mister Hideo "Perfection" Kojima probably undercompensated for the masses of people. Which make me wonder... If their servers crashed completely, how is it that the BRawl servers stayed on but lagged.

ph15h needs followers

So the beta has been extended 5 days and they celebrate...

...by forcing us to WAIT 5 days to start...

So that means the Beta is STILL 2 weeks...

[/angry_rant]

what0080

@ph15h needs followers: Because not many Wii owners go online? This isn't a guess, this is true. Wii may have the most units sold, but it has the fewest online. Even with Brawl.

bobtheduck

@Lyrai: Well, I don't think "tons of people love metal gear online" as much as "tons of people love metal gear solid and want to play ANYTHING that will act as a sort of demo for MGS4"

bobtheduck

I'm actually quite relieved that this is postponed, as this is exam week for me. I'll actually get to play it if they push it back a week, even if the duration is still two...

Silver lining, I guess.

Jaesin

@Candlejack: let him be. he's still bitter that he's gonna need a ps3 to play MGS4. he'll get over it, eventually... :D

zanzibarlegend

i was just now finally able to register for the konami ID and Game ID

Judge

This morning when MGO wouldnt connect, I sighed and Went to play WarhawK and it said "server error" there too!!

My first thought was "My god! MGO broke the internet!"

Thankfully, Warhawk was only down briefly and I have been getting my online shooting and killing fix there quite nicely.

trigger2

@Jaesin:
i hear you.

i found out im gonna be bogged down with work all week. i was delighted to kick off mgo during the week anyways, friday midnite is prefect, i dont work weekends, so it will be pure and adulterated MGO all weekend. my son will be abusing MK Wii with me during the week, and i will keep GTA4 sealed until i get my proper fix on MGO. yes i am a MGS fiend like that.

zanzibarlegend

@KingBroly: freaking exactly.

on that note, the konami id, or game id, or what the fuck ever can't be the same- and it requires it be 8 characters or more. it's a total piss off because i can't at least use the same id as psn.

i do -not- want the end product to be this way. it's just... stupid.

bialia

I am not worried. The problem is with MGO not MGS 4, so even if it does suck upon release (hopefully not) there will still be the strong anchor that is MGS4. Also this is more indicative of crappy server infrastructure and not gameplay. I think they can bring up enough servers in a month in a half to salvage release date buzz. I don't know about you but when I get MGS 4 I won't b playing online for quite some time until I go through the one player experience thoroughly. Anyway I am eagerly awaiting for friday when it will be back up.

Weasel3689

@mescalineeyes is obsessed with mgs:

Painfully over his head? Please do not confuse MSG4's verbose masturbation to some type of "sophistication" that somehow you only get.

Leobebes