Reading these comments I take it very few actually saw the sketch in the MTV newspost that looks like someone realized they forgot to do an April Fools prank and spent a few seconds in MS Paint.

Lijik

I love how people say MS are "ripping off" the idea of a motion sensing controller when it was Microsoft themselves who had a working motion sensing game controller way back in... the year 2000 I think it was.

Funnily enough, there just wasn't the demand for it at the time so it went by the wayside. All Nintendo have done is take that idea and launched it at the right time. Bit harsh to say MS are copycats seeing as they were the first to bring a motion sensing game technology to the mass market, albeit on the PC where it was probably destined to fail!

Someone who isn't as lazy as I am will find out what it was called and post a link I'm sure!

dcuk7

Hahaha, so lame. I hope this is a late April Fool's joke. The 360 is clearly a hardcore machine and I don't think anyone wants to see it flooded with gimmicky remote sensor games. With the 360 already three years into it's lifecycle does producing a peripheral like this even make sense at this point? Microsoft would be better off waiting until 2010 and release the Xbox 720 bundled with an X-remote.

PaulHunter

Oh please with the "stealing/rip off/imitating" comments.

Like both Nintendo and Sony didn't steal inspiration and elements from Xbox Live? If anything, don't most f us agree that Nintendo SHOULD steal more from Xbox Live so that online play isn't broken or difficult?

They ALL "borrow" ideas and implement them in various ways. That's true of every industry ever invented. To think that gaming is any different than cars or banking or coffeeshops or anything else is so comical. It's a copycat world.

Get over it.

lionkitten

On one hand, I would hate to see Microsoft blatantly copycat nintendo. On the other hand, a wiimote-like device for the 360 would make Resident Evil 5 that much better.

thumbuki

it smell fail !

ThisIsHell666

microsoft isn' the only one, Sony is rumored to already be demoing theirs to devs...

x999x

@Tiberian: Agreed. I personally can't wait until Microsoft comes out with their Sidewinder Xbox 360 controller. That way, when they realize what Sony realized, that their demographic doesn't care for motion controls, we can finally be done with it.

RawSteelUT

Smart move really. Wii is selling like hotcakes. Its all about money...not what internet forum posters and bloggers want. Hell, the Wii is made of stuff from nightmares. How could this be any different?

Poltergeist13

Oh god please let this fail even worse than the HD-DVD drives.

AnotherGamer

Microsoft really has no clue as to what makes Wii popular. The controller is part of it but certainly not everything.

mizzle

Now we can have resident evil 5 with wii controls! I like it!

GUNLOC_MORIYM

Haha, terrible. Obviously an Xbox 360 could do anything a Wii could do with better visuals, and much better online, but Nintendo still has enough franchises to justify spending the $250.

Wolfers

not to be fanboyish, but won't Microsoft have a hard time making a remote of their own without stepping on patents?

Sandbox_Emperor

@DGOJG: Do you mean the joke showing a PS3 Mote & Nunchuck ripoff seeing as how Sony "copied" analog sticks and rumble from Ninty about a decade ago?

Candlejack

Sounds Microsofty.

You gotta love 'em and their original ideas.

BornToFlail

this just in: motion controlled gaming, not really that fun.

LX

@Tons Of Fun:

You are an idiot, sir. If this turns out to be true, it will end up thrown to the wayside like pretty much everything else of its type. Rare will release some sub par game with it, it won't sell but 6 units, and then no one else will make games for it. The "core" gamer market has made it quite clear that they have no interest whatsoever in a controller of this type, so I can guarantee you right now that you won't be seeing any incredible, mind blowing games for it that you would enjoy (i.e. no hooker killing or headshots).

This is aimed at people as an extra expensive peripheral to an already expensive console and all it offers is things that the people that it is aimed at don't give half a damn about. Has "FAIL" written all over it.

usfslacker

I was expecting it sooner, I mean everyone has been on, or is on the motion sensor bandwagon.

Flawless101

HAHAHAHA a x-mote? ok, i wouldnt buy this if microsoft DID actually put it up but its interesting to see.. lol

Kaizin514

Isnt there already a Sony-Wii-esc one thats been in works for ages? It was in PSM3..rummors at one of the latest gaming conferences..

DGOJG

am i the only one that continues to question why we are getting new sources from MTV???? It started off as a music channel and now its not even about music.

...i don't trust them with my games =(

NightMystic

too bad add-ons don't sell...

it's time for microsoft to understand that they have to focus on lowering price to reach mass market and then next generation, bring wii type functionality.

reptile168

@Yetanotheruninspiredscreename: you should take Kotaku's crack-artist team to seriously. They do good work word... not very accurate when it comes to visual details like this.

okenny :)

ugh- I can't make it through all the fanboyism and hate...

...this is possible, but doubtful. For one, it'd probably only be with Rare games and not all games (if it came out this year). For two, it'd probably be in development for the next console, not the current console. For three, MS is trying too hard when there hasn't even been enough time for something extraordinary to use the motion controls yet...it's just a new way to play, and it's interesting but nonetheless not the only way.

Of course, Microsoft just wants the money so...

JGab

@xXSlayer77Xx:

A number company handled manufactoring in Japan. PAX. Mattel was the US side. Another company did the research and guess what it's a scaled down data glove used to control robot waldos. Said data glove cost at the time 10,000.

[www.ageinc.com]

Btw people in vr research use powergloves because they are a lot cheaper to modify then use a 1000 or more dollar data glove.

Yetanotheruninspiredscreename

first microsoft rip off the ps2 buzz controller for scene-it
then nintendo attempting to steal the singstar card from sony, now this...*sigh*

lucky_7s

Do not want!

Seriously, I don't have a 360 to play with motion controls. I don't want that stuff forced into my games.

Deus Ex Machina

Too bad Nintendo couldn't "ripoff" Microsoft's XBL service.

exkon

@Mr.SithNinja: LOL! I'm sure Nintendo won't be too happy about this if it's true. Anyone still have that picture of, "Achievement Unlocked: Copy the Leader"?

Tenchuu

I get enough waggle on my wii. I'm going to stick to regular games for my 360.

J0hnny-Kickass

Even if this isn't true, it's stuff like this that really makes me hate Microsoft. And I don't even have a Wii.

jerimas

i hate copycats.. i really do.. i bashed sony for trying to build motion controls into its controller after knowing how the wii worked.. but, as a 360 owner, i'm kind of interested in this.. sure it won't be as groundbreaking as the wii-mote but it may be put to good use! if we start seeing game patches to support this control scheme on already released shooters and if the controls are any good i'll think about it.. but then again.. it's just a rumor!

henri1kk

@SirCletus:

So what if they can't come up with an original idea, do you think they give a toss about that when they're counting their money?
Do you think the average casual gamer consumer who buys the product, gives a toss about who came up with the original idea?

Who do these things matter to?
Not me, that's for sure, I just want games I like to play.

Cruithne

@TheHun: If Microsoft brings something new to the table this year, I will swallow my hat, go to the nearest Best Buy and get an Elite the same instant (apparently it has less problems than the other SKUs). Well I eventually will buy one for Gears 2 anyways, unless Epic decides to update the engine for third-parties so that PS3 can also have games with the new UE3 features.

slomo788

Coming soon, the XBOX Parasite! A USB cable with built in microcontroller, which connects to your Wii through its expansion interface. The XBOX Parasite comes with a DVD which loads a specialized Parasite control into the Wii program space and allows (well, forces) the Wii to act as a peripheral to the 360. Hey presto, you have a Wii60, use your Wii as a 3d spatial mouse for Halo 3 and Gears of War.

ChaoticLimbs

THAT'S what they meant by "Wii-60".....

Mr.SithNinja

@Cruithne: Yes, it's business. It's definitely Microsoft's business: they can't seem to come up an original idea (at least, these days) from which to profit.

Granted, lots of companies do the same. As for the Ford/cars example, that's a bit different. Microsoft seems to really like to focus on swiping other companies' gimmicks, which seems particularly odd to me. Wii-motes and Miis? They couldn't come up with that themselves?

Another of my favorites is the blatant rip-off of Widgets in Vista, called "Gadgets." Real original, guys. What makes me laugh, though, is that ripping off Dashboard and Widgets seems so...pointless. Borrowing from core concept, functionality and usability and innovating and evolving is one thing (this is where the "car" analogy works). But blatantly ripping off a completely non-essential feature? Why? This probably isn't a proper analogy to the theft-of-concept of Wii-mote (as the Wii-mote IS a central selling point of the Wii), but it's an anecdote I find humorous nonetheless.

SirCletus

@Ampillion, now with the hair stylings of TVs Frank: Yea. So it's crap. And we don't want more half assed motion controls that aren't fun or don't work properly in games.

Candlejack

@slomo788: Nothing is confirmed.
For all you know it's the next best thing and not a rip-off at all! (though probably not just sayin)

TheHun

FINALLY! Ninjabread Man will be mine on the 360!

Justin42

Hovering over Redmond, VA tonight... the stench of desperation.

JudgeNutmeg

Kind of sad if true, but we'll see.

Struct09

@okenny :):Arg... scratch that last statement... wrong story :(

okenny :)

To anyone who's even the least bit surprised, please refer to "History". It's just choc-full of great examples of MS doing this in the past.

Windows is nothing more than the MS version of the System/Finder OS.

Some of you may know this under it's current name, MacOS.

I believe TNT had some kind of movie about Billy and Steve a while back, like 10 years back. Oh those nerds...

For more examples, please see C#.Net and Java

Hopefully, this will go down in flames, right next to good ol MS-Bob and WindowsME.

StabbyCutyou

@Candlejack: No, see...
If they'd done this much, much earlier, we'd actually see a lot better push to use motion controls. At this point, it smells more like 'we want moneys' then 'we want to offer something new'.

Ampillion, now with the hair stylings of TVs Frank

I'm afraid you're going to have to run that by me again.

In who with the what now?

Okayyy....

I'm just going to go over here now.
--hitting head against brick wall--

Yeah! Sure fine, that sounds just dandy!

TokeYo

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thus, if this is true, than it says a lot about what Microsoft really thinks of the WiiMote.

That being said, even throwing aside marketing, I see a key problem, adaptation. In other words, why should 360 developers take advantage of this controller when only a small fraction of the 360 owners have one? So unless Microsoft can tackle adaptation and give developers incentive to make games for the controller, it may be the industries next, Game Cube Gamboy Link Cable.

Microsoft can however, do a few things to push adaptation. The first would be to bundle the controller in every new X-box 360 alongside the standard controller.

The second would be to put out a, "killer ap," with the controller bundled with it. Doesn't even need to be THAT great of a game, WiiPlay has pretty much proven this.

Finally, Microsoft can keep costs down. If they sell the wand controllers for $30 dollars a piece, the same price at the WiiMote, than they'll look cheap in comparison to Microsoft's $50 dollar standard controllers.

All this being said though, I'm somewhat dubious.

We're into the third year of the X-box 360 lifespan by now, in another two to three years Microsoft will be announcing the successor to the console. So I think I may be a little late in the game for Microsoft to radically shift it's focus like this.

My suggestion to Microsoft, would be to continue refining the controller, make it as responsive and accurate as they possibly can. Then when they're done with that, start looking into other features they can add to it as well.

If they do that long enough, than they can simply use THAT design for the 360's successor, and have themselves an uber-controller that's really hard to beat.

WolvenOne

Sorry, I had an problem getting the article posted. Its up now to those who already visited.

VillageOoOIdiot

I'm glad. It will be easier for microsoft to copy nintendo's hardware and make wii-like games than for nintendo to emulate microsoft's software and make an xbox-live-like service. At least microsoft is WILLING to copy. Look past the sleaziness of it all and think positive!

xanavi

So we have patent laws that can sometimes prevent companies from making money off of other companies' innovations (so that there are better incentives to innovate)... I wonder how the inevitable lawsuit will turn out (I root for Nintendo).

jbliton

Wow, I guess I have to eat my hat, socks, shirt, cut off my fingers and my penis and then gouge my eyes out because those are all the things I've said I'd do at various times if MS ripped off Nintendo before Sony.

Shit.


Any any rate, if it is true and that mock up is accurate, HOLY CRAP is that shameless!

Mr. Fap☆Fap!

Casual gamers don't care about HD. Give it up Microsoft. Give it up.

KingBroly

@Kyle81: And we come full-circle :) Of all people, for YOU to utter these words is priceless. *hug* you just made my day ;)

okenny :)

And for anyone feeling like putting Sony in the same basket. Don't be stupid. Motion sensing is becoming a standard in console gaming, just like rumble was before, and just like cams are becoming now. Nintendo uses it in casual gaming, and bases the entire game off of it. Sony used it in more "hardcore games," like Resistance, Uncharted and in racing games. In shooters and action games it's just used for one function, not the whole thing. MS is ripping Nintendo off not by using motion sensing (their controller is clearly the last one in terms of innovation and feature this gen) but by THE WAY they apply it. This is clearly a "port" of the Wii-mote to the 360. Even the name is a rip-off (remove Wii, put X... wtf?). Sony never went that far, and at least they jumped at the same time as Nintendo instead of that "wait and see" approach that MS always uses. I just hope this fails, just like their other knock offs have always failed.

slomo788

Seriously. Just give me a third analogue stick instead of a dpad. That would really make people angry. But the dpad is useless on a 360 controller anyways so /shrug. PS people could play on a 360 controller even easier, and I think some hardcore mech games could use 3 sticks. Gotta innovate something new on a controller to separate casuals from hardcore anyways. People can then say "you noob casuals, you cant even handle 3 sticks"

Thats the world I want to live in. It's sad cause I started off sarcastic but now when I think of the uselessness of the 360 dpad it doesnt sound THAT terrible.

Derigor

Eew. Looks ugly. If it ever makes it to market, I won't be buying it, since I'm not 8. What a bizarre move for Microsoft, too. I thought they knew their core demographic much better than to attempt this.

Besides, wasn't the industry on the cusp of admitting that waggling a controller while looking at SNES-era graphics is nothing more than a passing (albeit lucrative) fad?

Prediction: this'll come out way too late for the cash-in bonanza that the Wii enjoyed, Microsoft and Nintendo will start a non-consequential court fight and it will all drift away into nothingness that no one will remember in no time flat.

While it's strange for Microsoft to do this (if in fact they are), I still think their console's the best of the bunch this generation.

DaPress

@Cruithne: Indeed. Finally, we'll have playable FPSes on the 360!

Wiimote pointing is to mouse and keyboard what mouse and keyboard is to dual analog.

emag

HAHA! Good one. Yea, you almost got me there. Lol. Lol. Right? Please. Be a joke. :(

This is so crucifying. If anything, the world needs less games with half assed motion controls.

--
And stop this buddy/friend/guy/pal bullshit. This is not youtube, and you sure as hell aren't in South Park.

Candlejack

@Overlord44: don't forget the MGS4 pack-in game with a free key for FF13 beta ;)

okenny :)

I can already see the final product : a glove with motion sensing abilities. This way, they rip off 2 Nintendo ideas at once.

Actually, that would be kinda cool... if done right.

In any case, if it turns out it's really a remote like the mock-up shown here, I really hope MS will fail, because it would be too blatant a rip-off to merit any kind of success.

Mokona

Hahaha.

ohhello

The article forgot to mention that the X-remote will most like explode in your hand

tralfaz23

@JustEaton: LOL. Yes, that is why the PS3 copied features and are still trying to implement features that the original xbox did or the 360 is already doing. The PS3 is badass, but lets not forget that some of it's features are copies of what MS has already done. Oh, and didn't MS have a motion sensing wand-like controller years ago? Oooh, I think they did.

Everyone copies everyone in videogames.

I_Hate_This_Place

@slomo788: I'm not your guy, buddy

valouris

Yeah, have you noticed how Henry Ford started producing the motor car, then before you knew it every fucker was coming out with their own version of "the car" ?

Get a grip people, it's business, if the consumer demands casual games and Wii type controls, then Microsoft would be dumb not to give it to them.
Personally, some cool FPS Wii controls and 360 graphics sounds pretty sweet, I'd like to see it.

Cruithne

@JustEaton: yea i'm surwe ps2 never had dre or ps1 had overheating problem. the george foreman grill also has problems.

JoDark117

@AllOfUsAreLost: he's not your friend child molester.

...oh wait. Did I take that too far? Did I kill it? *face-palm*

okenny :)

I don't see the point in this. Microsoft has a pretty good market share this generation. If they release this "X-remote", they are basically going after potential Wii consumers. To even attempt to make this thing successful MS has to commit a lot of resources to this project which might mean less resources spent on what has made the Xbox360 what it is today.
Look at the PS3. It has the sixaxis functionality, but I doubt that is the reason anyone purchased one.

Noks415

Nope. This will fail rather hard. Or, rather, end up as just some peripheral.

Again, the reason why it works for Nintendo is, from day one, the system was built with the motion sensing and controller shape. The two are synonymous. Therefore every game can support it knowing that people can access the pointer features, the motion controls, whatever. The Wii also has this 'fun for the whole family' name for it, which the 360 will never be able to pull away from it. Microsoft should just refine what they've got now: The core gamer market. They're making killer software numbers, so unless this is just a mere 'trying to cash in on imitation' and not a real drive to make 360 more like the Wii, this would be a rather large fail.

If MS had some brains, they'd be holding this thing for their next system iteration, refine the technology a bit, and then offer up both standard and remote-style controllers base on the next system, and spend less money on upgraded hardware inside. Aka, be the next gen's Wii.

Ampillion, now with the hair stylings of TVs Frank

LMFAO!!!

Ghostm

@huginn: Whats Sony have to do with this?

Kyle81

If this is real Microsoft will lose their integrity by the end of the year.

Haha i kid.

They lost that when they made windows 95.

Cchrist

If this actually pops up at e3, I hope some journalists at the presser have the balls to stand up, boo, and walk out.

Maybe the guys from Gamecock will do it. They didn't have any trouble ruining Bioshock's GOTY speech, something like this should be mere child's play.

Klaymen

So they wanna put a next gen control scheme on a next gen console.

Screw the Wii.

Tons Of Fun

The Wii remote is half assed and only works half the time. Ultimately true motion sensing will be handled via camera(s). The tech to do this isn't there yet for the mass market, but I remember someone demoed a version at this years GDC.

xgenius

thats awesome i hope they do idgaf about the wii it would be awesome to have an innovative controller on a system that plays pretty games

vicmasterinc

Another reason why I hate anything Xbox 360 related.

turbofreak

I guess they missed the point about having different experiences on different systems... or that cockamamie bullshit about "The Best Games are on Xbox 360." What happened Microsoft?

LionheartAce

People will buy it because people all know that everyone secretly wants Nintendo to fail.

sakuma_san

No one remember the Microsoft Freestyle Pro?
That is one of the first Motion Sencing controllers.
And Before you say Power glove....Nintendo didn't make it. the guys who made intellavision made it. Nintendo only licensed it.

xXSlayer77Xx

@huginn: Sony has been bashed since November 17, 2006 for the "Wii rip off."

slomo788

If we're going to talk about ripoff, let's just end with "Microsoft." The entire product is based on the Playstation's success; there's really nothing original about it. Lots of money put into exclusives, less into making sure the units last longer than 6 months.

JustEaton

Oh come on, this can't be real - it's just way too low a blow and spells LAWSUIT like no other.

sir_carrot

In before this thing is used for a remote control for the new Blu-Ray add-on.

Yes, I went there.

Overlord44

@blackadvent: The mockup on Kotaku is an artists rendering of what they think it might look like. There's a very crappy vector "sketch" of the thing on MTV's blog.

I'm willing to bet that this whole thing is still in the concept stage and will probably never see release.

Agies

Time for a theoretical fanboy nightmare scenario:

- Microsoft releases remote like motion control add-on for the 360.

- Xbox Live becomes swarmed with motion control games, some of which are actually really good.

- Developers pick up on the device and actually begin making good games that use the remote.

- The Wii gets left in the dust with thousands of "casual" games and shovelware, becomes the ugly duckling.

This is the kind of thinking that's keeping me from buying a Wii. I still think the whole idea is rubbish and a fad.

Tons Of Fun

@valouris: Lol you win guy.

slomo788

The videogame market doesn't need more saturation in crappy gimmicky games that Microsoft would produce, there's enough of them on the Wii.

Iceking5

@VillageOoOIdiot: No it won't help. The Buzz knock off didn't. Bringing JRPGs didn't. And bringing this in the year of MGS4 is not a very wise decision of MS. The 360 is a hardcore console, they need to advise it as such, and leave the rest to Nintendo. They should focus more on GTA4 and GoW2 if they want to push consoles.

slomo788

@sargemat: they may rip Home off too... i hope they make a sandbox casual MMO (for free). I have no interest from having to do things through it. I can do that through the dashboard already.

okenny :)

lol MTV news! That is almost as funny as the tv channel.
Music Television LOL! Kinda funny whenever I turn it on there are a bunch of blonde retards fighting for some reason.

JustJake

Sony? Rip someone off? NEVER.

Given the six-axis controls, It's not beyond anyone that they would try a stunt like this.

Will it fly? Of course not, we know how good most non out of the box addons sell. Very few gain little more then a passing glance, even first party ones.

MS, focus on yahoo, wait this 'feature' out til next generation. Don't be the copy cat.

huginn

@AllOfUsAreLost: He's not your friend, guy!!

valhum

Damnit where that come from!?

AllOfUsAreLost

Yeah, a game using the vision camera, one of about 20 eyetoy ripoffs out there right now... Still amazed at the fact people are so desperate to rip-off a commercial failure (eyetoy)

Why? Because they know it was simply the wrong time for it... They eyetoy style gameplay will be popular someday, when better webcams are available for the same price... Just like motion controls have been around for a lot longer than the Wii, but the Wii entered it at the right time.

Oh, and rare is a company deserving of no praise... Whatsoever... Ever again...

bobtheduck

THere is nothing wrong with doing this. The problem lives in Nintendo. Is the Wii just about the controller? Can it compete when other have motion control also? I like SIXAXIS control when implemented well.Now Xbox will have "X-motion" control.

jackal888

As long as they don't force it into games i don't give two shits about this.

TheHun

"how easy it would be for third parties to port their Wii games to the 360."

Great, so developers can port their PS2 to Wii ports to the 360, too?

Yeah, I went there.

GANNONSMASH

Hmm a Rare collectothon only this time with body parts for your avatar?
I can just imagine Banjo standing there going "uhuh, we only need another 385 bones to make the skeleton!"
One or two games with this thing isn't going to make it worthwhile, apart from the patent issues if they use the same system as Nintendo's you do have to wonder how expensive the basic setup for it would be.

Weirdwolf

Why would you not want something like this? Wii-like games with decent graphics and abilities? Nice.

JesseLacey

I notice how nobody else notices that the analog stick is on the motion controller.

So how do you operate camera control and aiming as well as moving at the same time with this thing?

There is a damn good reason why Nintendo put the analog stick on a second controller.

Yetanotheruninspiredscreename

@Valouris:
He's not your buddy, friend!

AllOfUsAreLost

@Tons Of Fun: So what? The X-remote will have an X shape?

slomo788

I'm a pretty solid 360 guy who has no interest in the Wii. Fun to play at a party with friends but don't want one myself. And I don't see the problem here with one caveat: as long as they still make the types of games they are making now, then cool. If the Wii-ish games are additional and not the core game, then awesome. Why not? To me MS (and Sony) would be stupid not to jump on this.

And don't think for a moment that Sony isn't developing a Wii-like controller as well. Sony has always taken the best ideas of others and tried to rebrand them.

lionkitten

@slomo788: He's not your fewn, buddy. (oh and I beat you to it, look 14 posts above yours :D )

valouris

"Xbox 360 Version Of Wii Remote Has Been In Development Since Summer, Source Exclusively Tells MTV News [MTV]"

You know, I just can't take MTV News seriously.

dead_red_eyes

I'm guessing this is one of those roundabout information flows -- I bet the new "source" really got the information from the old Rare source and updated the info. So, I'm on the side of this being BS.

jayntampa

I think this would be VERY smart move on Microsoft's part. Think about how much more they will sell if they do this right! So many casual gamers would be brought to the Xbox 360 b/c not only can they easily play any games they want (I'm talking about people who aren't necessarily "gamers", like my mother), but it might get them more interested in learning how to use the other controller and start playing other games that do not involve a point and click method. What a great introductory tool this could be for anyone intimidated by the hardcore-ness of gamers. So it will be good for everyone, really....well, scratch that, it won't be too good for Nintendo, if Microsoft does this right.

How can they do it right? I wrote about my opinion in my blog. [gmunster.wordpress.com]

So I won't make this entry too long. Haha.

VillageOoOIdiot

As a proud newly Wii60 owner, i would love to see some sort of Wiimote for the 360, specially for shooters, its so much easier to point with the wiimote than trying to aim with a fucking pad.

valhum

I just know they're going to do it like the Sixaxis and forget to copy the IR-tracking pointer mode, making it a wonky gimmick.

Ok, I don't know. But I can't see this going well if it's true. I have a feeling that some of the more important parts are patented already.

"The Fast and the Furriest" WHAT THE- argh... can't keep it civil so I'll stop now. It's like if two of the worst things you can think of were fused into one perfect nightmare.

fuchikoma

I'm more concerned about this "Furry outfit avatar system".

ekkobi

@valouris:
He's not your buddy, friend!

AllOfUsAreLost

Wait, you guys do realize that picture is just a mock-up right?

Sigh, logic is too late....

Tons Of Fun

Lets send the intern undercover to check this out...and file a video.

amisenior

@blackadvent: He's not your guy, fwen.

slomo788

WTF at rare and microsoft for this shit...

killershatner:casual gamer or casual killer

+ if they do this + price point + packed in hard drive = win

okenny :)

That will never happen.... They may as well remodel the 360 to look like the Wii and rename it the Xbox 36Tii.
They may rip the technology but it won't look like that.

Though I do hope they do it quick as I am a hamfisted buffoon when it comes to FPS with Joypad.

Just make a damn FPS controller!!!!!!

damienchowder

It looks like a TV remote with less features.

FredQC

@L:

Big deal? Every first person shooter ever made pretty much looks exactly the same.

Tons Of Fun

It's about DAMN TIME!

okenny :)

In all seriousness though, that mockup is either a fake or it's a REALLY bad design.

blackadvent

man... this shit's whack. Stop copying each other. People are either going to notice your jockin or think that you're just trying to fit in and look down on you. Just do what you do and stop jockin. Damn. Even the vintage of the original is fading. Do your own thing people and don't hop on the train, cuz when it runs out of steam you'll waste develop money. but then again, it's Microsoft. They have money for games but not so much their hardware or OS.

wow... I finally snapped.

ph15h

Oh, and if all this happens, I would love to hear all the 360 owners who up till now dont like the Wiimote

valouris

Can you smell the desperation in the air?

Barbara

Yeah I don't think the 360 needs this but it will be interesting to see if anyone will develop something to work with it.

Jacktherip

@L: Lmao. The image above is someones mock up of what it could look like. Its not real, nor is Microsoft making a direct copy. Sigh.

Tiberian

Noooooo. Say it isn't so?

Oh Microsoft, you've done it again!

Woodwater

@blackadvent: I'm not your guy, buddy

valouris

I truly, sincerely hope Microsoft doesn't go down this road. Xbox 360 is an excellent product already, it doesn't need a Wii-mote or anything like it.

UnnDunn

That sketch doesn't inspire any sort of confidence in this "source". I don't see Microsoft introducing something this late in the cycle especially since they have to know that nobody would be too pleased about it's total ripoffiness.

t0yrobo

Hmmm looks like Microsoft might take the idea of motion sensors and Mii like Avatars and actual do something with it. The Mii channel is pointless now.

sargemat

Well if Nintendo won't give us decent online and HD graphics, this could be interesting as long as it is only applied to games that would specifically work well w/motion control. This could help me w/my dilemma over which system to get Force Unleashed and Facebreaker for if they can work in the motion controls for those games on 360.

Spartan1308

@Tons Of Fun: difference being.. this looks just like the wii-mote. I have no problem with using the same technology...at least come up with a different design eh?

L

OH. GOD. NO.

holy_cow

@my spoon is too big:
@blackadvent:
What are you guys talking about, that sounds so revolutionary and innovative.

masticate

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We don't need this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phantommizzi

Ah well, its really nothing unusual. All 3 companies take "ideas" from each other. Sony had a go at motion sensing with the Sixaxsis, its time Microsoft had a go i think.

Tiberian

I wonder how Nintendo will take this blatant copy.

L

In before all the Nintendo fanboys begin screaming.

And "Rip off" is such a harsh term, as if NO ONE ELSE IN THE INDUSTRY EVERY COPIES ANYONE ELSE.

Amirite?

Tons Of Fun

No thanks. Don't want one.

InsidiousTuna

Easy way to avoid it? Don't buy it. I won't.

Eville1

Reggie will not be pleased. But then again neither am I at the sight of that mock up...

my spoon is too big

A little late for April Fool's, guy.

blackadvent

@Slomo788

Don't call me your friend, I'm not your friend budday.

Al2x

While I'm not in support of BLATANT COPYING, I am of the belief that games with new controllers and interfaces CAN be highly successful. Thus a system (Wii) need not be built exclusively around such controls.

The ridiculous success of the Guitar Hero series, Rock Band and Wii Play should make it clear that, if the accompanying games are fun and offer new experiences, then people will buy in droves even with the expensive price that comes with adding a unique controller.

Am I wrong?

DARTH_TIGRIS

@dynosaulo: omg, not "anglish"... "English"... ¬¬' yes.. i'm stupid. =P

dynosaulo

Uh..just to clear this up, a lot of people seem to be confused.

"Making a controller with motion-control" - Not ripping off Nintendo.

"Making one that looks functionally identical to the WiiMote" - This is what's funny/an issue/a problem/whatever.

tincow

My god... people talk about ripoffs, but really... The only company that doesn't do ripoffs is Nintendo.

Let's remember

Nintendo came up with the SNES controller... sony copied... for the Playstation, only with two more shoulder buttons.

Nintendo thought about an analog stick... Sony thought wtf, let's make it two!

Nintendo came up with the rumble pack... Sony, again, made it two... (they were internal... but anyway

Later, sega copied those ideas, then microsoft too...

SO
If the copies made of nintendo's ideas are actually working, let them keep copying.

(sorry for my REALLY bad anglish... =P )

dynosaulo

It looks like the developer was working closely with Microsoft... Paint.

Doomstalk

I don't see this happening, or at least taking off for a long life span.

That's as long as posts have to be, anything else is "Look how much insight I have!" talk...

Monstercloud

Nintendo did say early on that they expected that the WiiRemote would be a new industry standard eventually. It may come about a bit sooner than some expect.

NESv1

All this does for me is confirm Scene It 2 and that gets me excited

Len Bias Cocaine Surplus

I would buy it only so I could play a lightgun game on the 360.

I'm still sitting here with my Xbox lightgun and House of the Dead 3.

Kanik

Gwah Hah Hah Hah! God, I hope this is true.

@ 5:50 Bill Gates on innovative UI and Wii remote denial

xot

Microsoft hits a new low.

AcidFaux

From the mockup on the multiplayer blog, MS seems to have missed the mark. There's no camera listed, so pointer functionality is right out (so no 'FPS control'), and motion sensitivity is hardly exciting.

obonicus

ok 20 dollars says that if this post was about sony making a wii mote then every fucking post would be about how gay sony is or how much they suck or how they arent original. but because its microsoft with all of you 360 fanboys saying this is a pretty cool idea.

cbg2113

@flashtut:

Not the eye toy. It's by 3DV Systems. They call it the Z--camera. It does full movement tracking. A video of it is available at ign. Something like this is the future of motion controls. Combine the camera with a standard 360 controller and you really got something promising.

[blogs.ign.com]

xgenius

I think the one thing we can be certain is true about this story is that once again Rare are behind schedule.

Still, if this is true there could be one major upside: Resident Evil 5 compatibility! RE4 Wii Edition is simply awesome, if we could have RE5 with the Wii-type controls it could well be the best thing ever.

photoboy

Assuming this is legit (which it likely isn't) - the sketch on the MTV page says the 360mote has four colored LEDs at the top where the wiimote has its IR beam.

What does that mean?

Are those merely colored lights to signify which player I am controlling? Or is it some new kind of four-way optical sensor?

I'm confused. If Microsoft can do motion control better than the Wii, I am all for it. If they can't, they should step aside.

Ess

Take the scene it controller and add Wii power and bam.The 360 roller motion controller.I'll take a check uncle Bill.

enewtabie

So is this getting here before or after the PS3mote?

Enkur

@dcuk7: The MS one didn't have the pointer tech, which is the part of the Wiimote that the good games that use it use.

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

some where reggie is gathering his Corps. to invade the offices of MS. Intel reads as follows:

//begin transmission//
"mission is to infiltrate and destroy MS. Take absolutely no prisoners. If Bill Gates is spotted, he must be taken dead or alive. kill anything that moves. even office pets and the like. Once the documents of Wii rip-off are procured, employ exit strategy. and by the way if you see Peter Moore wandering around be sure to put a big tattoo of a 1up mushroom on his forehead.
//end transmission//

zanzibarlegend

Well we've seen companies "borrow" eachothers ideas before, but I highly doubt it's happening now with this rumored device. Microsoft doing this would be like admitted they've failed to achieve Nintendo's success level and bowing to the big Japanese gaming empire. Somehow I don't think that's in Bill Gates' playbook, I think he'd buy Nintendo himself before allowing this sort of blatant copycatting to go on. But I could be wrong.

Sush

@Tons Of Fun:

No, a straight-up rip-off like this should be unacceptable. For exaple, Sony may have copied Nintendo when they chose to put motion sensing in their controllers, but the way it works is different, and its shape is still the same as previous PS controllers. This is pretty much a direct copy of the Wiimote. Which is sad, stupid, and hopefully 100% fake. April first happened days a week ago, methinks this is a bit late.

dgonchild

@StabbyCutyou: don't forget about Zune, Starlight.. and.. well, all the "new" features on Vista were already on MacOS and Linux for ages..

Anyway, this looks like just a rumour.. but seeing the success of the Wii, I'm sure that the next generation consoles will all have something like it.

CockroachMan

@xgenius:

You mean EyeToy?

flashtut

@lionkitten: @dcuk7: Like I said in my last post, it's not just about copying a successful feature that might become standard in games and that Sony and Nintendo had the balls to introduce while MS was screaming "gimmick!" I mean, the thing is named "X-remote." Need I say more?

slomo788

Microsoft is not stupid enough to believe they'll be able to get away with this. By the time they get this out, the 360 will be in it's 3rd year, far too late to introduce something like this.

Tiger-Fever

THIS IS SO AWFUL

Bernard McGraw

Sony had a third party tilt controller for the PSOne in 1999, called the Tilt Force 2. Albeit it only had two axes while the current one has 6.

Sony is known for copying other people's ideas, but in this case Sony didn't copy Nintendo they copied Pelican Accessories who probably got a fat check from them after the PS3 launched.

Sources: Tilt Force 2 by Pelican Accessories

flashtut

@slomo788: And MS will be bashed just as hard, if not harder if this comes to reality in this generation of consoles.

huginn

lamest controller since the PS3 bommerang. I'll give it that recognition.

XWonka

@dynosaulo: Plus... it would make the Xbox360 turn into a more expensive version of the "Vii"

dynosaulo

Since this controller is an "add on" on not a "main" controller, it will probably fade quickly into niche-obscurity like the rest of it's like... Flight controller, dance mat, lightgun, guitar controller, arcade controller, buzz, powerglove... The list goes on.

Yin

@Ampillion, now with the hair stylings of TVs Frank: QFT. I agree completely. Microsoft recognizes what Nintendo has done right since the get go. After Microsoft's realeased their "Arcade" SKU and their various controllers, this doesn't surprise me much. Seems like they're really starting to go after the casual and Wii audience.

TheOtis

@tincow: I mean... if Nintendo didn't mind before, i don't think they will mind now. Unless, of course, M$ uses nintendo's design... that would be really stupid

dynosaulo

M$ is ALWAYS willing to copy, it always has and it always will, copying ones, buying others, thats M$ vintage right there.

FelicioLostHorizonPT

I agree they need to make it look diferent and I'm sure they will.. But think of all the good reasons like playing rts and with some kind of voice command or speech to text we could get a real nice IE. Only problem will be saying "free porn" outloud. ;)

GUNLOC_MORIYM

Little late to cash in on the Wii's success. I mean 25% of the Wii games are perfect for the motion sensing while the rest is utter crap.

Fireblast

I wouldn't want one simply because I don't want yet another sensor bar thingy sitting below my TV. One is already too many. :/

mardigan71

@Tons Of Fun:

Well, you are talking about Microsoft. "Innovating" other people's ideas is their bread and butter...just ask Apple.

Arklop

No... if this is true, this is such a bad move from Microsoft.

rich8606

If it's true I can't say that I didn't see it coming.

M$ and $ony have been trying to add to the immersion in their game since the Wii was revealed.

The only thing they're missing is that the GAMES have to support it and be fun and interesting. You can't just throw out motion control and expect people to jump on it because it's "kinda like the Wii" you need to give them the equivalent of Wii Sports or something better along with that.

And all this is going on on the eve of Wii Fit aka the balance board, Nintendo is already a step ahead.

We all know Wii Fit is going to sell like stock ammo at a gun convetion. I mean my girlfriend who doesn't even PLAY video games, wants it and she just heard about it. Wait until that tv marketing campaign drops.

It's funny, though nintendo will barely market their games but I bet Wii Fit commercials will be EVERYWHERE.

Meanwhile Ninty will just keep printing money, printing money, printing money, printing money, and printing money.

FunKrusher

(1) I hope this is false.
(2) There's a good chance this is, what with all the "supposedly" and "rumor has it" and "unnamed source" being bandied about. Don't take it as gospel.

Now, let's all get back to complaining about mandatory PS3 game installation.

Does Not Equal

This isn't a very good idea. They're just gonna segment their market even further (from the already segmented core vs. pro owners).

VAMP

Color me... enthused! Rare made their way in the 90s trying everything they could to out-do Nintendo on their own consoles. And what time, nostalgia, and Nintendo's shilling of their franchises has made many forget is that they did a pretty damn good job of it. Banjo-Kazooie was a better game than Mario 64. Diddy Kong Racing was a better game than Mario Kart 64. And before anyone decries that, keep in mind that the magazines and reviewers at the time were saying these things.

So here's hoping Rare does that again, makes Nintendo hungry to hang onto its market share, and the gamers get higher-quality games. Competition is good.

PositivelyJosh

Perhaps if they could take motion sensing capabilities and put them into some sort of glove you could wear...

Jetter

Oh, for fuck's sake, if I wanted a Wii I'd buy one. Please, please don't let my console get infested with fucking Mii's.

Strangelove

@DARTH_TIGRIS:

Um, I meant Wii FIT, not Wii Play.

DARTH_TIGRIS

@Phantommizzi: We don't need it but Microsoft do. The casual market will see a cheap 360 with waggle and eat it up.

NeutralFanboy

Doesn't the 360 have a controller already, and doesn't it work fine? What have I been playing with? Also, if you want to play with a Wiimote, wouldn't you just buy a Wii?

TheEngineer

This is my worst fear! Last thing I want is video games to turn out just like the wii! Its fun for some games, but not for all. What next, the playstation sixaxis remote? then next thing we know all three next gen systems have this. It has to stop somewhere!

madbassman39

Ugh, please don't muck up my 360 with a flood of shitty waggle games. We have enough shitty games as it is.

Gray665

Oooh how the mighty have fallen...

RickyTV

RARE!!! PREPARE FOR YOU NAME TO BE TAKEN, AND YOUR ASS TO BE KICKED!
Signed
Reggie

excel_excel

@emag: I think kb + mouse will dominate.

BlindedFTW

well, seeing that Microsoft hasn't really made anything Original by themselves in about, oh i donno, the past 10 years, this would pretty much be expected, no?

leimeisei

@JudgeNutmeg: Virginia? Microsoft is based out of Redmond, Washington.

Doomstalk

ooohh boy, all of a sudden the xbox fanboys are coming out of the wood work, so they can rejoice when they beat the Wii and then say it was Halo 3 that actually won it....srsly

excel_excel

I can only afford this story a lol, which follows this post.

Seriously?

Here it comes...

lol

FFMMCLXIV

@Jac21: @Jac21:

Oops, sorry for the double post.

Jac21

@sargemat:

Oh you're , like, totally unbiased with that comment due to your icon and all. No fanboyism there.

And by the way, this is news how? It was bound to occur.

Jac21

I imagine this will be about as effective as the SceneIt controller.

psychobaka

@sargemat:

Oh, and your, like, totally unbiased with your icon and all. Little idiot.

And by the way, this is news how?

Jac21

If Rare actually complies with this bullshitery then I'm going to be extremely disappointed in them. Hopefully none of this is true.

Mech_Master