@silkylove: post FTW

zanzibarlegend

I'd be excited about this; but I know they'll make Superman a big pussy for balancing purposes and that's just going to piss me off.

fdisk

ARE YOU SERIOUS!?! wow... That is something I thought I'd never see! Can't wait to see some more though. im excited.

ceokhan

Mortal Kombat without fatalities is like Guitar Hero without music.

silkylove

I dont know what to think at this point. But I imagine if the game sucks it wont be just because there were no fatalaties.

ConnDestn

OK, from the Ed Boon interview on Gamespot....

- The reason that Superman does not just kick everyone's ass is because there is "magic involved in the story".

- The game is being released on 360 and PS3.

- They looked for counterparts for MK characters when deciding which DC characters to use. He said Sub Zero and Batman were one such pairing, so let your mind run wild as to some of the other potential ones. I would def go with Goro / Doomsday.

KidU

DC up in my MK. I'll allow it!

parasiteartist

Lame.saus.

TheRunningboard7

It makes no sense for Superman to be in this...he would destroy them all.

Jnas

This is the dumbest idea ever. Way to copy Marvel Vs Capcom 8 years late!

iameleveneight

@Nereos: Jedi and Sith characters that wield weapons in a game of fantasy charcters that weild weapons. im sold SC FTW

DC characters fighting MK Characters that tear limbs apart
Epic Fail

I can picture batman beating any of those clowns in mk within an inch of their life,followed by "finish him!" and then Batman waxing philosophical about how killing doesn't resolve anything. wow what a finisher.

zanzibarlegend

Wow. I must be the only man on earth who liked Armageddon and Deception.

ShaggE

Considering how rare it is to get a good MK game, I'm gonna go ahead and slap the "This is a steaming pile of poo" label on this one.

JoRo1986

Uh, why don't they just make a DC fighting game and a new Mortal Kombat? This just seems like they were late to the Capcom vs Marvel party...

DarthHater1137

I would much rather have the canned Sammy vs Capcom. I watched the trailer for this game, though, and it didn't look to bad.

Sir_Crocidile

I'm just happy I'll get to beat the shit outta people as Batman, lol :D

Candlejack

Deadly Alliance and Deception were both fun, but I was turned off to Armageddon due to the awkward way of handling fatalities. So now if they're completely removed, I'm completely not interested :(

Struct09

WHAT!? NO. n...no. This is what I've been waiting for since Armageddon? April Fool's, right Kotaku? Right?!

CancerMan

[www.gamespot.com]

Romeloo

This isn't a dream-ticket, but more like a golden turd that'll sink Midway into more fiscal losses. While I try hard to find substance in a game like Mortal Kombat without fatalities - I don't. MK was simply a guilty pleasure of pop culture martial arts and exploitation shock violence. I loved the first two, but it went downhill from there. When bigger and better things like Tekken, VF, and Capcom's Marvel enteries were drowning out MK in the arcade I was managing in the 90's people litterally would start to pick on and laugh at the MK people... especially once Tekken 3 came out.

The gameplay in this MK vs. DC title would really need to be good, but even then it'll be cliché too little too late for this kind of paring that its competitors have already long done a decade ago.

TC

Superman + Performing Fatalities = burning image in the hearts of every man on this planet that has respect for the man of steel.

zanzibarlegend

This game is gonna be horrid.

FallingEdge

This is as surprising as when Vader and Yoda were announced for SC. I think we're finally seeing how fighting games are going to gain more popularity.

Nereos

If this is going to happen, then that means Capcom better freaking announce Marvel vs. Capcom 3. That will totally blow away any momentum this game might generate.

Phlycheez

I can understand batman (gotham city etc etc) fitting into the MK universe. But Superman who wears super vibrant ass colors like red blue and yellow?

Make it work i guess... =P (Which i highly doubt they'll do cause they're midway, the douchebag of the gaming industry)

ashjaw

@dry-roasted-peanuts:

In Tekken 6 certain characters have weapons. Note though, that unlike MK, these are purely for novelty and absolutely optional :)

Truvill

Maybe to make up for fatalities they'll actually make the game good.

t0yrobo

... DC should've rather teamed up with Capcom.

Tyheam

Still no fatalities? Midway should have just axed the whole thing after they weren't allowed to do that. This won't revive the series, just mashup the odds.

I can't not wait to play this game.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

Doesn't anyone remember the old SNES JLA fighting game? No? LOSERS! Seriously though, I tried MK Deception and sold it really quickly. I'll stick with VF, Tekken and SC.

Eville1

Mortal Kombat without fatalities is NOT Mortal Kombat. Let me find one person who hasn't become a fan of these games because of the fatalities and I'll personally go Scorpion on him/her and rip out their spine.

Mortal Kombat vs DC... it's a bit of a novelty, but I think it could be pulled off well.

Mortal Kombat vs DC minus the fatalities equals a steaming pile of fly infested monkey crap. You don't compromise what MADE a game popular in the first place. I'd rather have Mortal Kombat minus DC charaters plus the fatalities.

Feh... I'll pass on this one.

MerlynNY

@Mr. Fap☆Fap!: He probably means he will be using that next-gen brown. ;)

liquid_kore

Meh, Midway trying to bring back a dying franchise by shelling out megabucks to license DC characters. It's yawn inducing, especially without fatalities. The whole point of playing a mediocre fighting game is having the big payoff at the end of a round where you get to perform ridiculous death scenes with arbitrary button pushes. I've always thought that even WITH fatalities, Mortal Kombat was a novelty franchise.

ThisCharmingMan

@BlackDove: Batman's fatality would be him standing over your beaten body, methodically breaking all of your bones, just like that scene from "The Dark Knight Returns".

KiddChaos

Being a pretty big DC Universe fan in the past I am definately excited to see the character list on this one

deek

They could have non fatal finishing moves. It would be sweet if you could have Superman zap the other guy into the phantom zone with the phantom zone projector.

Guild_Navigator

So Midway get a new iteration of one of their most popular games series, and trade in their signature feature for the DC licence - And people wonder why the top of the company's less stable than the San Andreas fault?

Although I can understand Midway's reasons for the agreement, I still believe they should've either stuck with including fatalities or ditched the idea altogether. If I wanted a game where I could beat the crap out of beat-em-up & comic characters, I'd just boot up Marvel vs Capcom.

Jonax

I want to insult MK/Midway here, but I'd rather say these 2 things frankly:

1) MK hasn't done anything good (or even original) as a fighting game lately, and as far as profits are concerned, there's a reason their previous CEO left.

2) When was the last time there was a good game featuring DC characters, much less Batman and Superman?

But hey, if news like this is enough to bring me back to VS series from Capcom, so be it.

Truvill

Ow, my stomach just twisted into a knot. Do the developers really think this is cool, or are they thinking "it's a paycheck, it's a paycheck." I'm guessing the latter.

Shame!

Islandkiwi

Yuck. Mortal Kombat was alright when I was in middle school but even I realized as a 10-11 year old kid that the game was really not all that great.

Mortal Kombat was then and always will be Midway's answer to what Capcom does with Street Fighter. On the surface this is attempting to make a Marvel vs Capcom/X-Men vs Street Fighter type game and could look to make them a lot of money, as a fighting game fan, I'll pass like I have every MK game since playing MK2 as a kid in the local arcade and realizing how dumb it was.

battra92

@Jeff Paine:
Step 6: Close down Midway's Offices
Step 7: Reminisce on the glory days from the Spy Hunter Arcade up until the emergence of the original MK game, which redefined gaming in its prime.
Step 8:Create a bon-fire with all the crappy MK titles they have put out.

i know there are more steps im leaving out, help anyone?

zanzibarlegend

@Lackshmana: Immature gimmick or not, MK really is all about the fatalities. How many people would have played those games if they didn't contain gore and fatalities? People certainly didn't come for its combat system.

Zeliard

no fatalities = I might RENT it, but hell no am I shelling out $59.99 +tax for no fatalities.

Seiven

I can see them 'pulling a Raiden' with Superman.

Raiden was once a god, after all. He lost his powers.... so why can't Superman lose some of his?

CheckersMcGavern

MUGEN?

JesseLacey

people people - Superman can be hurt by magic. That's going to be used to explain why he can be hhurt in the game.

Of course if they decide to include Captain Marvel this will be a must buy for me. Bet they wont though. poor Marvel Family....

IanC

Ive got $10 saying this will be the first "T" rated MK console game.

globones

@Lackshmana: I fail to see how removing the very thing that defines the franchise (regardless of maturity level) is a step forward. You think MK, for good or bad, you think fatalities. Taking them out takes away exactly what makes the game stand out. It's akin to adding fireballs to Virtua Fighter, or taking the weapons out of Soul Calibur, or giving the Tekken caracters weapons. As I said earlier, it's making Super Mario Bros 1 into Super Mario Bros 2 (US).

dry-roasted-peanuts

I tried to find this comic but gave up... but now this story is back for a third time, so this is the first thing I thought of when I saw MK vs DC:

[www.penny-arcade.com]

fuchikoma

OK, here's what I don't get...

Since Ed Boon said he was inspired by Gears of War for the next MK game, how the HELL did he see GoW and think "DC Comics!"?

Mr. Fap☆Fap!

I think that if they did include fatalities, that would make me buy the game. Setting Superman on fire and then hearing that loving voice say, "Fatality!" would totally be worth $60. While the fatalities are a staple for the game, the gameplay just isn't great anymore to sell me on it. Lack of fatalities will hurt the sale of this game. I call it.

Ryadic

I was chatting about this with a friend of mine and Green Lantern came up. Scorpion would smoke him, but if there were any levels with green in them he could not possibly lose. Conjure up a truck and drop it on peoples heads.

I know Boon is talking about a storyline that deals with this, but God if some cheesy comic book storyline is going to save this game.

logikil

@FightingChance: These days Aquaman is pretty, excuse the cliché, win.

Fallible

This is so stupid.

Step 1: Take a dead, watered-down franchise like Mortal Kombat
Step 2: Add some superheroes
Step 3: Remove the thing that made the franchise so popular in the first place
Step 4: ?
Step 5: Don't profit

Jeff Paine

@BlackDove: I love when people don't read the story in a desperate attempt to be "FIRST". We see through your shenanigans.

liquid_kore

This makes my brain hurt.

FrigidAir44

Sorry, like I said before, whoever thought this nightmare up needs to be fired, shot, fired again, and forced to play Mortal Kombat Special Forces.

Zaxxon Q Blaque

With this game, I think we all lose.

This just seems like the worst idea ever. It's like DC is going out of their way to continue their streak when it comes to horrible video games and their characters.

fltranz

Couldn't they just make a DC fighting game? Aside from a few original MK characters I don't think anyone gives a rats ass about the rest of the characters.

liquid_kore

Maybe they'll have something along the lines of brutalities!!!

exkon

Hahaha.

The MK crowd are powerful, no doubt, but Wonder Woman and Superman are immeasurably strong and near invulnerable, the Flash is the fastest man alive, and the Green Lantern possess the most powerful weapon in the universe, limited only by his will.

... I guess they could beat up on Aquaman though.

FightingChance

Wow, that was really no joke.
I'm impressed and I can't wait to see what it'll turn out.
Midway's previous crossover game was Rise of the Imperfects and while I didn't play, I heard it was generally badly received.
Just because I think Sub-Zero and Batman are cool, I hope this game will not suck.

Tigerfog

OMG OMG OMFG This game is either going to totall rock or completely suck balls.

foxwarrior88

mortal kombat + dc = awesome
mortal kombat + marvel = awesomer ( not likely )
(mortal kombat + dc)-(fatalities+blood)= mediocre fighting game at best, featuring some cool characters.

ungivenglory

Can't we just have a Batman game instead? He'll be winning the tournament anyway.

Fallible

Is MK relevant anymore?
The series has steadily declined, so perhaps this a good move? Certainly it seems to be a good business decision.

Zeouterlimits

there's only one game I'd ever buy that has DC characters in it, a Marvel Vs. DC. That to me would be the greatest fighting game match up ever, though I'd prefer the game to run in 2d live Marvel vs Capcom.

Chaoticevl

Mark my words, this game will be terrible. Any game that features Superman against mortal's and Superman could possibly lose is fundamentally flawed.

And not being able to tear apart my foes ruins the idea of Mortal Kombat. It's not like the series is known for having a tremendous amount of depth. There is a good reason it is not featured in any respectable fighting game tourney.

Rubix42

it's real heres a clip [www.gamespot.com]

Romeloo

I'm not willing to buy the game without fatalities. There are plenty of fighting game out there that all fight for gamers dollars, and all of them have gimmicks.

Street Fighter is the pure fighter
Soul Calibur is the weapons fighter
VF is the technical fighter

All MK has going for it is fatalities. When you take that away its no longer MK, and adding the DC comics makes it a poor attempt to try what Capcom has already succeeded at.

Goodbye MK, I'll miss the good times. And for old time's sake:

Fatality...Flawless Victory

logikil

SUPERMAN WINS! FRIENDSHIP!

Double J

I like DC, and I like Mortal Kombat. But this reeks of an utter abortion.

Can't wait to see the excuse for character balancing, say, Superman and Baraka. Kryptonite Blades?

I hate throwing around the cliched term "sell-out," but an MK game with little blood and no fatalities just to appease their co-promoting license is absolutely selling out. I get that they're sort of trying to ride off the coattails of Marvel vs. Capcom, but I'd much, much rather see a standalone MK game with a new engine than whatever kind of clusterfuck this game will surely be.

KaneRobot

Superman has died before. Still, if their not going to go with fatalities, they could put in something else as the ending, like Superman (or Batman) gets a planet dropped on his head...just no visible blood or death (since the crushed planet would cover up all parts of the body so that nothing is showing...it's up to the viewer to decide if Superman or Batman is dead under all the rubble).

jsf49

Well, they're removing an immature gimmick from a fighting game franchise that is entirely dependent on immature gimmicks.

At least that is a step forward. But I still hold to the strong likelihood that this is a comical example of just how mishandled DC's video game rights are.

Lackshmana

well considering Superman and Batman dont kill..... It would be weird to have fatalities in the game. Also add that Who really could hurt superman anyway. Game is a lame idea

ShaggyB

If it were DC vs MK I wouldn't mind the lack of fatalities. Alas, this is apparently a Mortal Kombat game first and a DC game second, thus, no fatalities = no purchase.

NeoStarr

[uk.gamespot.com]

Scubanick86

Damn.. would be cool to take Superman head's off.. altough very unrealistic.. how could someone like Sonya win against SUPER MAN!?

CockroachMan

I will not be purchasing it. Fatalities are mortal kombat. And none of that make your own fatality crap they tried to pull with Armageddon.

aden.exe

Mortal Kombat characters don't appear to be as cool as DC to me. The fights may appear lopsided. It's going to be like watching an ant fight elephant.

DigitalHero

Boon only denied on the recent gamespot interview to stage fatalities, so you have to beat the other fighter to a pulp to win. He also stated that their will be finishing moves like fatalities but didnt give them a name.

Scubanick86

Why would you make a Mortal Kombat game without fatalities?

You know what you take the venom out of a cobra? A belt... and that's what this game is gonna be.

arepeegee

Dude.

This is awful.

Why must they eviscerate everything I love!?

ratzofftoya

Scorpion and Sub Zero? In an MK game!? ZOUNDS! :p

ShaggE

Mortal Kombat without fatalities is like a Mario game without Mario.

Zeliard

Yeah, I was initially all over this like a monkey on a cupcake.

And then I saw the trailer. Which was so much worse than I thought it could be.

Sad.

MykalBloom

They should come up with unique finishers instead, not necessarily tearing someone's ass by reaching through their mouth.

Maybe a Bat-ality...where you just give them an uppercut and the screen goes "Kablaam!" like the old Adam West days.

Kanik

can you really have superman in a fighting game? How will that work?

UnderABox

They don't have fatalities, did you not read ? I was so looking forward to this game but I don't know anymore

TuSoKa67

MK without fatalities is like Super Mario Bros 2 (US version). Yea, it might have all the window dressing of the franchise, but it just isn't the same.

dry-roasted-peanuts

yah i kinda figured they wouldn't, but why make a MK vs. DC if no fatalities? whats the point?

just go back to marvel vs DC if your not going to have it.

maybe they will make their own version of a finishing move.

babyality or something.

Dakobah

This game pretty much defines what it means to sellout. They are going to give up on something thats been in every Mortal Kombat game to make DC happy and try to make more money.

Why go after one market (MK Fans) when you can go after two with one game (MK and DC Fans), I personally don't believe I will be buying this game.

Although I'm sure it'll be just as good as when Marvel fought all those EA comic book characters.

ShadowFFVI

I think some of the best fighting games do fine without fatalities so I say Superman. Besided, Superman always wins!

Therin

@BlackDove: No fatalities, reading FTW.

NotAZombie

Uh, doesn't Superman being in the game completely hurt his credibility? Mortal Kombat characters aren't exactly know for carrying kryptonite around.

ImBigBob

Fatalities always seemed like the icing on the cake, and frankly if they can make the cake delicious I'd still eat it without icing.

The-Blur

Mortal Kombat without fatalities = Mortal Combat. They don't deserve the K, if I can't rip out spines.

tsathoggua

The fanfic I wrote when I was nine years old is finally a reality.

Forkball

fatalities would win.

akilshohen

Freaking awesome, I can finally put to rest the age old question of who would kick who's arse.

Klopfer123

Batman vs. Sub Zero...

I never imagined it would come to that. I wonder what Batman's Fataility is.

BlackDove

It really depends. If the game is good, I'll get it. If it's gonna be a standard Mortal Kombat game with no blood or fatalities, I'll pass. I go with MK if I want fountains of blood, otherwise...just doesn't seem like MK to me.

Stoli

I suck at Mortal Kombat and rarely pull off fatalities but I recognize how awesome they are.

Fatality is the backbone of the ENTIRE FIGHTING GENRE... its like street fighter without Ken or Ryu.

I wont here "Finish Him" and then have my character's head ripped off?

It made losing barable for me...

But Batman... Batman isnt worth it...

Superman is Poo!

SaanZ

I find this even more absurd than Marvel vs Capcom(which is not absurd at all infact its awesome)I mean really? Why Midway? Why Mortal Kombat? Why Superman? he's invincible!... in the absence of green glowing rocks. Is this going to be a continued trend or something? Marvel vs Capcom, Link, Spawn and that other guy in Soul Caliber 2, Snake and Sonic in brawl, Vader and Yoda in Soul Caliber, and now this? Direct me to the pipe where the flow of money that influences these deals is that I might siphon a hefty portion of it.

jive238

Considering it's impossible to even do a fatality on Superman, it doesn't make sense to have fatalities in the game.

Gagamus

1st posts are often the unread...

Any way... The Mortal Kombat games never had much goodness to it. It was just fun to watch fatalities and see bad actors get pummeled. Then... The jump to 3D. Eww... Then DA? Yay. Then now, now fatalities? Wait.. What? Time to go play some other 3D fighter that has depth.

ph15h needs followers

@Mr. Fap☆Fap!:
DC is doing a Gears of War comic ;)

munniec

Meh. I haven't enjoyed an MK game since MK2.

weasl

"Superman vs Fatalities: who is going to win out?"

Batman.

Steel_Pelican

This game just feels wrong already. Will it surpass MvC 2? Probably not. If it matched MvC 2, would it then add fatalities? I don't see how someone can kill Superman. Honestly, I'm not a huge comics guy. I know my comic characters from watching cartoons Saturday mornings and movies. I'd rather have a GOOD MK game by itself then implement DC characters (of which I only really like Batman I guess....Superman is lame). Then again, I'm just a bitter person who is STILL upset, and constantly reminds everyone, that there isn't a MvC 3 or re-release of MvC2 on the new systems.

MJDeviant

I could have sworn that Capcom ended up with the DC license after they lost their Marvel license to EA. I seem to remember everybody getting amped up for Capcom to go a DC game just like their other VS games.

Did I imagine all that?

megahurtz

I'm a MK fan and a DC fan, but no Fatalities means no dollars from me. YOU FAIL!

boots555

@Mr. Fap☆Fap!:

I'm assuming he was referring to Gears of War getting a DC comic book.

[www.shacknews.com]

ungivenglory

Fatalities are pretty much kind of "meh" in this day and age when you can see entrails on every person you kill in Viking, or the extreme dismemberments in Conan.

I think it's not an unwise marketing move to try and promote the MK mythology over the deaths. It only makes sense in a Vs. game not to have fatalities (DC would never, ever allow that ... and with good reason).

I'm sure after this sells a butt-load, which it will ... they will get back to the extreme gore -- after bringing in a new audience.

jayntampa

marvel and capcom had a freaking sweet partnership....this is just stupid...ugh another reason why DC sucks...

superbryant88

According to the video interview with Ed Boon, which I wish people would watch already instead of typing(read: bitching) first and asking questions later:

-there are no fatalities(sadly)
-Superman isn't going to be some 'one-hit-fight's-over' character(get over it already)

So don't be surprised to see Supe's getting his ass kicked.

And to these people that are suggesting to just a make a DC fighter instead, they'd have to do the same shit to Superman there else it'd be a broken fighter. There only other option would be to leave him out, which then people would bitch about the negligence.

When the hell did people become so closed minded? Realize that there's just some things that need to be done in order for things to work/make sense.

Man..

JerrD74: hates the media

@singlecoilpickup:

Haha. Funny that you said that too!

dead_red_eyes

Let Mortal Kombat and DC rest in peace. No one cares about them anymore. Stop trying so hard.

ZombiePuppy

@dry-roasted-peanuts:

That was actually my point, so I agree. I think MK is bad, and I think it is bad because it depends on gimmicks like Fatalities instead of solid gameplay. I agree that it is a defining part of MK, but I am saying that its part of what makes it crappy.

I do think your examples are a bit extreme though.

I don't think weapons in Soul Calibur are a gimmick, and I don't think hand-to-hand in Tekken is a gimmick. Those are intrinsically linked to gameplay. The control schemes are centered around them. If you take those out, the game is broken. The same can't be said for Fatalities.

Fatalities are only part of the "charm" of the franchise, not a central gameplay issue.

As someone said earlier, fatalities are just "icing on the cake." Real gameplay is the actual cake.

Lackshmana

just saying it now tha there is no f-ing way i will play a mortal kombat game (which have lacked in the gameplay category since mk2) if there is no blood or fatalities.

i thought i would finally get to rip supe limb from limb, or wipe that smug grin off of robin's face once and for all with a head-wrending upper cut.

nope, no go, no way, no how, i've heard enough.

PGGB

Fatalities win every time, no contest. Superman always struck me as a big time weenie. Frankly, the only entertaining role he could have in the game would be to get torn limb from limb and spurt blood.

Tori Floyd

@ singlecoilpickup:

lol cuz its true.

globones

I think that Mortal Kombat has finally jumped the shark.

dead_red_eyes

Considering Mortal Kombat has been terrible for nearly a decade, I can't say I care one way or the other.

paulofjustice

@BlackDove:

From TFA: "According to several sources, Ed Boon stated that the game would have no fatalities. "

So wonder not.

TRT-X

Obviously, this is an extremely questionable concept (or koncept). But, if it's actually a decent fighting game, it could be fun. I enjoyed Deadly Alliance and Deception, but Armageddon not as much. And you know what, I wouldn't really miss Fatalities.

I'm also real skeptical of how they're gonna handle Superman. I think Superman could pretty much handle anything that any MK character could throw at him. If I see Superman get impaled by that Scorpion spike-on-a-rope move, I'm gonna be pissed.

Froggore

I'm sorry but i just can't imagine superman standing on the ground fighting MK style. So, unless they are going to let you FLY when you play as superman this whole thing is just going to seem pretty ridiculous.

underscore

Mortal Kombat has DC, Soul Calibur has Star Wars, Capcom has Marvel...can we officially declare the genre stagnant now?

Balius

i hate crowds. they cheer for the dumbest shit.

Some corporate guy: Well ladies and gentleman, we are please to announce today that Peter Parker will be the in the next Spider-Man film as...SPIDER-MAN!

Audience: WOoOoOooO!!!!1!1!1!1! OMFG!11!1! THIS IS FUCKIGN CRAZY!!! THIS HAS TO BE THE BEST DAY EVAAAAR!!!!1!1!!!!!!

ArmyofJuan

We all know that people love Mortal Kombat not for its gore, but for its rich, rewarding combat system. Right? Right?

On a side note I'm personally disappointed, cause I've always wondered what Batman's spine looks like.

Nobuyuki

There's no question now. Mortal Kombat has jumped the shark.

singlecoilpickup

@Truvill: Interesting. About the only "realistic" fighter I like is Soul Cal (Tekken and VF just never drew me in). I've always just liked the more over the top fighters. And I would totally give head for a Weaponlord sequel.

dry-roasted-peanuts

No thank you. Fatalities are the ONLY reason to play Mortal Kombat. Seriously.

PissedPS3Fan

I think they should have just made a DC fighter, we haven't had one of those since Justice League Task Force. The franchises are just to different to integrate without pissing off the core fan base of one of the properties. To appease the MK fans they could leave fatalities in but that would piss off the DC fans as their heroes don't regularly kill. To appease the DC fans they have to take out fatalities and piss off the MK fans by taking out one of the main staples of the franchise.

So there is no real way to win both sides on this.

HyperWrench

I hope they put the over exaggerated Batman that is Frank Miller's.

While the animated Batman is my favorite, the gritty no holds bard Batman would fit the overall tone of a MK franchise better.

RPGr

@KidU: Sounds like the explanation as to why Superman doesn't just beat the shit out of everyone else with ease will be as unintentionally amusing as Namco's explanation as to why Vader and Yoda's lightsabers can't just cut through everyone and everything in Soul Calibur IV.

Zeliard

Fatalities are lame. If your a kid then its cool but for serious fighting game enthusiasts its clearly just a gimmmick.

Nexus6

@ShadowFFVI:
This game pretty much defines what it means to sellout.

Yes, thank you.

This game needs to go right back on the shelf with the other bad ideas.

Can it! Can it WITH FIRE!!!
(in a Bell jar, for you southerners)

Billkwando

I dig the idea of being able to play as DC charactors. But Mortal Kombat without Fatilities? Come on now.

Months ago I remember hearing how this was suppose to be "The gritiest and brutal Mortal Kombat yet".

Guess not :/

Oh well, Sub-Zero's my homeday. He looks like a complete BA.

TheOtis

Sorry but this looks too cool for me to pass up, im actually excited for this game. I haven't the foggiest clue why... I will go on a spiritual journey to find out why i find this game intriguing.

Ok, im back.. and the reason is Because its F@#$%*& Subzero vs Batman.
Thats why.

Nate00

@JesseLacey: rofl
nope, much worse

geoffcbassett

Really though, there is no way that DC would allow their characters to be ripped to shreds in a game. This might be a hard sell for die hard MK fans...

But I've never really been much of a MK fan (except goofing off in Shaolin Monks) and won't be made one by this announcement.

urban_ryoga

It makes sense if you think about it. I mean seriously,do you honestly think anyone from the MK universe would be able to rip Superman's head off?

Sabastian_Chadwick_McGirt

less-than-mortal kombat FTL. I like DC, and I like MK, but this is just... no. just no, man. no way.

solar_tf

@Trowble (XBL/PSN):

There wasn't no one who can't not wait to play this game already. And thanks to you, there won't not be one more who can't not wait to play it.

I'm going to go lie down now @_@;

fuchikoma

Cause we all know how the last DC fighter game turned out

[en.wikipedia.org]

One of the worst fighers ever

huginn

Batman for the win. He is the most psychotic character of them all...

Ixero

No Fatalities = AUTOMATIC EPIC FAIL!!

what0080

first to say it...

nanananana batmannn!

RonMaverick

the reason for playing this game would be to use ulra violent moves ad fatalities with and against the super heroes. Completely ruins the mortal kombat franchise and what would of been a massive hit into something far less. Dont get me wrong, a game is a game but minute I heard "no fatalities" it was no longer a mortal kombat game

ninjikiran

No fatalities? Just goes to show that Marvel vs Capcom is a neater fit than DC vs Midway.

themunk

The video LOOKS ok...

[ve3d.ign.com]

henhowc

@chiefpoopingpants: It's true. 1 & 2 were awesome. I say that without reserve.

A W E S O M E

From the third one onward, they've been derivative "me too" crap, starting with the Killer Instict dial-a-combos in MK3 (and Henry Rollins as Subzero) and onward , where they try to tap into whatever the "mechanic du jour" is.

They've been nothing but a cash-in game since 3.

Billkwando

Yes, because a fighting game with fatalities as finishing moves should totally include a roster of heroes from a franchise where nobody kills anyone.

Rebochan

Uh. They said it was going to be a whole new generation with entirely new characters.

Looks like they really doubled back on any sense of promise.

sir_carrot

I saw Boonie boy at CES, if I knew about this back then I seriously would have attacked him.

Seriously, how strapped and desperate is the guy for cash? He has ruined a franchise that was (hopefully) beloved to him for a quick buck. Buzz off Boon, I'm not buying this junk.

HibikiRush

There hasn't been a decent MK game since MK2 and that trailer looked boring as hell.

PASS!

chiefpoopingpants

they better have a good effing roster to this. Not just like...Batman, Robin, and Superman and Supergirl...show me The Flash, Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter, etc etc etc etc.

ComixZone

Oh god! Here we go. The small never-ending trickle of released characters and corresponding pic and vids. Man are we still that gullible.

jasoncourt

Boon is thinking "Hey if they can put Yoda and Vader into SC4, why can't I do this?" "If they can have Marvel Vs. Capcom, why can't I do this?"

This game hinges on the the fatalities issue. If the game done with fatalities it will be huge. If done without them it is pointless.

If I were Boon, I would say go for it but ONLY IF the blood and fatalites are in tact. I would have no problem with taking someone else's characters and placing them in a context that is outside the norm for THEM. The integrity of MY IP and franchise are intact. DC would be the one that is compromising their's. That being said, if it is true that there are NO fatalites in the game then Boon is the one "whoring out" his franchise by bending over for DC in order to keep their franchise image by not having Superman's head ripped off and dropped kicked off the screen. On the other side of it, Who wouldn't want to see Superman rip someone in half life a phonebook?

No blood + no fatalities = no sale.

As for the balancing question, why is it not possible for Scorpion to have a Kryptonite tipped spear or battle axe to use in a fatality? Why can't they be fighting in a demention with no yellow sun to draw all of his power from? There are plenty of ways to "gimp" the Man of Steel.

The only question here is, Who is going to be the one to "pimp" the other franchise and who will be the one getting "whored out"?

As for the Fanboys that are up in arms over this.....

'It's a DC Party!
Who could ask for more?
Everybody's comin, Leave you comics at the door!'

XD

Mr.SithNinja

wow, i see all this whining as if mortal kombat is a good game to begin with. mortal kombat for the most part is much like sonic when it comes to the latest games. mk deadly alliance is like adventure, it was a decent game, but when compared to the classics, it doesnt hold up. while all the other 3d mk games are pretty bad as far as fighters go. personally, im glad there are no fatalities, maybe this way theyll focus on the FIGHTING, and make this one good.

shouryuuken

This might be a perfect opportunity to add some depth into the MK system. I haven't played an MK game for years so I have no idea what it's like but, this is a great time for them to do something else instead of be known for fatalities.

Still would've preferred Capcom vs DC. I swear that was meant to happen...I'm so sure I even read it on shoryuken.com....

Ryu Kazama

if DC didn´t want their characters in a game with fatalities wouldn´t it have made more sense to put the DC characters into a different game instead of putting them into a series whose only unique selling point left is the fatalities?

tomsamson

@silkylove: more like without the guitar you mean but yeah i know what you mean

kjcwashere

@singlecoilpickup:

You are infinitely my favorite person ever.

sadisticfreak432

Sounds like an interesting idea, but how on earth can Superman, Wonder Woman or even Shazam can be beaten? DC heroes don't seem like the type of characters to have fatalities.

Can you imagine Superman using his heat ray vision to cook a person; Wonder Woman punching someone's chest in; Bat Man using a Batarang, or whatever its called, to carve out someone's chest? I can't.

Had they used a picture of Joker vs Sub Zero, I think it would have worked better for them.

American_N_Japan

Wooooow this was pretty unexpected

Rengenki

So is this the only big announcement from Midway's Gamer Day.

Really want Psi-Ops 2

Jawmuncher

@Therin: Batman's defeated him on several occasions in the comics.

Aitrus233

I'm praying that this is a hoax.

Satsujin

@BlackDove: Exploding Batarangs.

KM91

Wow no fatalities =( ...Guess I won't get it *sniff*

GreenCard200

I'm sorry, I need Mortal Kombat 2 again.

Dekabreak

Wonder if this will be a FATALITY to the franchise?

Fitz Rhapsody

Do. Not. Want.

CyberSkull

Doesn't Batman choose not to kill though? Or would he just get straight Friendlies?

el.sand.bag

@Fitz Rhapsody: lol mk is stronger than roaches, it should have died when 4 came out. ultimate/trilogy was such a good step in the right direction due to its combo system that i never even learned the fatalities. then 4 took so many steps back we couldnt see it anymore.

shouryuuken

But that's the whole point! To rip off the limbs of superheroes with Mortal Kombat characters or better yet, OTHER superheroes would be incredibly awesome.

Samos42

Batman? pfft. what's he gonna use? his utility belt?

Luna

@silkylove: Exactly!

Myst3r1o

The MK franchise is best known for their insanely gory finishing moves and a MK game without those awesome Fatalities is not an MK game. I'd rather see the game be rebuilt from the ground up with all new Kombatants(the only old fighters that would return are Scorpion and Sub-Zero of course), rather then see MK figthers duke it out with DC characters. Screw that.

I am a huge MK fan and have been for years but I refuse, I REFUSE to play an MK game with no Fatalities.

This is non-sense and I can't even begin to believe that Ed Boon would allow this to happen. Just can't believe it.

Myst3r1o

Hey, Batman has a strict no-kill policy, K? Can't violate it.

And I wonder how Frieze does against Sub-Zero...

Absent Blue

I'm interested in what boon is going to say to try and calm all of this negative feedback because at this point he has basically let all of us down. He even said himself that mk8 was going to be about going back to the roots and would be gorier than ever. This is just corny

Neo_X

Indeed people superman is Highly susceptible to magic...way more than human if you didn't know that and lord behold most of the characters in mk uses magic except a few people who are purely martial. On another hand tho, superman is much faster, stronger and resilient than most people in MK.

Still I would probably still play it.

ChuckNorrisKommando

@Zerbrechen: I couldn't agree with you more on this one. I still can't believe they would remove MK's beloved Fatalities just because those idiots over at DC don't want their beloved characters getting their heads ripped off or their spines torn out of their necks. If I was Ed Boon, I would have said... "Screw you guys, we don't need DC characters in our famous fighting game, we'll sell just as well without the LIKES of you!" That's what he should have said. Instead, he said "Deal! Let's making something great." Only problem with that is... most MK fans won't even buy this new type of MK game. I'm not buying it if that statement about no Fatalities is to be true.

I think I've bought every single MK game(except for the spin offs like that Sub-Zero game and whatever else) that ever existed, guess this will be the first one that I won't be buying.

Oh well, maybe next year they will come to their senses.

Myst3r1o

Mortal Kombat without fatalities is not the Mortal Kombat I grew up with. I'm not going to write this one off yet, but I'm definitely worried.

@Tigerfog: Midway had nothing to do with Rise of the Imperfects - it was all EA's fault.

spiderweb1986

**** this and **** you, Midway.
This is just getting out of hand. First Namco decided to ruin SC4 with Star Wars and "three-headed" women, now Mortal Kombat decides to remove a few chromosomes from its rebirth with DC characters that just don't belong (how do I know they don't belong? 1. Comic book superheroes versus demons, 2. Fatalities, a series mainstay will be removed). It's like they saw what Brawl did (putting Snake & Sonic in was brilliant) and are perverting it to the extreme...

Can't anyone come up with their own characters anymore? I swear, I'm gonna regress to just playing Brawl, SC2 and Street Fighter 3 if this keeps up.

Zerbrechen

HEY HEY HEY GUYS I GOT AN IDEA FOR A FIGHTING GAME LET'S PUT RAIDEN AGAINST SUPERMAN SINCE THEY BOTH KINDA DO THE SAME FLYING MOVE AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE AWESOME OKAY

Murmaider

as long as the game is well done, i'll accept the tradeoff

reptile168

Adding Darth Vader and Yoda to Soul Calibur set a new low for greedy video game companies.

Adding Batman & Superman To Mortal Kombat replacing the fatalities, is just priceless...

VakeroRokero

BAtmans fatality would be ripping your spinal cord through your ass. Or better yet the bat mobile would just fall ontop of you.LMAOpm

oneasianthug

Two comments.

1: I'm confused as to why DC would want no fatalities, the dark comics Dark Knight Returns and Dark Knight Strikes Back are often said to be the things which saved so why not allow an equally dark game with MK trappings?

2: I don't quite see this as a sell out (except for the fatalities thing) as the DC universe does contain the MK comics (I think), as for Superman being too much it's easy to just say "earths great heroes are transported to a planet where there powers are hampered" or some such. Comics do it all the time.

D1Tremere

Just imagine some Superman fatalities... wow just wow but then they had to go ahead and crush my dreams.

Tzero7

Does anyone care for fatalities anymore? I thought the system in Armageddon was pretty lazy anyway...

syrantking

Midway just did a fatality to the Mortal Kombat franchise. And I'm fairly sure when everyone sees it it will be agreed to have been brutal.

RonJeremy4Pres

So, by taking out the Fatalities and adding in the whole half of the comic-book superhero spectrum that I don't give a fuck about... They've kinda failed with this installment, in my opinion. However, I got to thinking, and if they were allowing Vertigo characters... This would be an incredible game. Cole Burns and the Minutemen, Sandman's Lucifer or the Corinthian, Agent 355, Cassidy the Irish vampire, Rorschach, John Constantine.. Oh, the possibilities. But the lack of fatalities tells me that no, they aren't using Vertigo series. If only.

Uzumaki_Kiba

@zanzibarlegend: Don't ever do that again.

P.S I added you on psn and read your messagea on kotaku.

Shindokie: Read my Messages

I just hope that Superman's FRIENDSHIP is him cranking that souljaboi.....YYYYYYOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU!!!

zanzibarlegend

@Shindokie: Read my Messages: It would be funny admit it. I'd laugh my ass off then the smidgen of respect that I had for Super Man would be forever lost...

GUNDAM-RX-78-2

@GUNDAM-RX-78-2: You respect super man.. i lost respect for you *runs away crying*

Shindokie: Read my Messages

@fuchikoma: The can't not know what the don't knows do that know what the do-do's do so the do-do's won't buy it and the don't knows will.

I'm need to lie down too.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

@Shindokie: Read my Messages: sorry dude...lol and p.s. got your PM, thanks!
@GUNDAM-RX-78-2:
i would lmao,in fact i would at least rent the game if he did that. :D

zanzibarlegend

The game does not look bad but with no Fatalitys is a real shame. I could imagine Superman's Fatality (Laser Eye's skin melt), Wonder Woman's (Truth Rope tear where she lasso you and rip the other fighter in two) and Batman's (Power Punch where he get's his grappling hook to pull the other fighter and punches the other fighter in the face with the fist going all the way through)

StealthMaster86

Here's the video link at Gamespot.com with Ed Boon himself: [www.gamespot.com]

twanski1977

A good fighting game does not need fatalities, just a good balanced roster. Which is something Midway has lacked for some time since its PS2 offerings. The 3D MK's are riddled spam attacks and loose controls. The true test would be to see if a beta would survive a Japanese arcade.

SoleGrave

bah!

Pass...

MK without Fatalities?

What's next, Killer Instinct without combos/combo breakers?

Street Fighter without Fireballs...

King of Fighters without multiple characters...

Here is a thought, go back to 2D or steal a page out of KoF/SF and go 2.5D. Ever since MK went 3D is has just plain sucked it up, its never been the same!

lakings

@tsathoggua:
No...Mortal Kombat without fatalities isn't mortal. It's just Kombat.

man_in_gauze

I love how folks say the mortal kombat series is dead or lacking haah. It never was dead and it hasn't been lacking, just change. Change for the better, in terms of graphics and some matters of gameplay. I admit, the old 2d series is better then the 3d series, but you know its still great.

I cant wait. And about the game not having any blood or finishing movies, wow, i am happy about that. When i play Mortal Kombat, i always turn off blood and finishing moves anyway.

U.2.K.

@BlackDove:
I'm taking it that you didn't read the part were they stated NO Fatalities?

AssassinTRIP

"Finish hi...., Hurt him Badly!!!" Batman wins...

that's gonna be JUST lovely...

Malice