To all you 'Nintendo haters' out here on this fine post:

If you think this is "bad", youre too young to have lived during the SNES days in Euroland, arent you?

Shiryu

Nintendo have ass fucked Europe way too hard with this.

I won't be getting this now.

RichardChaos

amen.

Himiko

@XenonXylophone: If the game comes out of the box in 5 different languanges, then I will understand the delay... but will only forgive Nintendo when they announce F-Zero Wii.

Shiryu

Too little too late, Nintendo. Go fuck yourselves.

KirbySS

@Haggis: Tommorw is a national holiday over here, so im picking up mine today! Portugal will be the first European country to have Wii
Fit. :D

To be honest, my parents and lady friends are more excited about it then me...

Shiryu

A actual date is good news. But what I really want is an explanation why it's so damn late!

XenonXylophone

@Cchrist: Same here. I was very much interested in it while reading the updates on the Dojo, but now I feel kinda meh about it. I'm more excited about Wii Fit right now. :P

Haggis

Whoops, too late.

Kyoujin

Releasing Smash Bros that late is a piss take, does anyone know who I can complain to? I used to be a Nintendo fanboy, it's things like this that discouraged me. Thanks Nintendo.

thequiffisdead

Finnaly! My Faith in mankind has been restored. Just 1 more month to go...

Shiryu

So, we actually have to wait TWO MORE months for it?

By that time I'll be in the US, buying my friend's barely-used American Wii for cheap, and from that point on it's a big "screw you" to NoE as I import US games, getting them for much cheaper than they would've been here.

MrPerson

God, I wasn't interested, but a few of my friends were.

They lost interest about two months ago. But they'll regain their interest, surely.

Itchy (PSN: Kaizoku-ou)

Buying this game means I like to be treated as a third-rate citizen by Nintendo.

I lost all interest in buying this game.

Zhen-Chan

Don't care, not a fan, Yahtzee was right.

BlackDove

And thus the heavens opened, holy light pouring down on the nations labeled "PAL", and the angels sang on high - but their chorus of hallelujahs were drowned out by one single cry from the citizens below:

"IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME"

Lyrai

Thanks, but I've already imported the American version.

Lightguy

Yeah i don't want it anymore now.

Cchrist

hallelujah!

Rickster

@Kazzahdrane:
Dude, I was so lied to... I was putting off getting it because someone told me that the first case tied in to the end of PW3.

Well, you just made my day :)

CurlyJim

@Shiryu: Just because they did it then doesn't make it fine to keep doing it now.

KirbySS

@CockroachMan:
And I was one of the importers. Playing Chrono Trigger with a translation gleaned from a bbs... but I was too young to understand that the feedback of purchase is essential in determining future production. And too much bad feedback will remove the option entirely.
Not that I'm saying this is wrong, or good, or anything. It's just an economic thing.

CurlyJim

I thought everyone who wanted Smash Bros on PAL just bought the Datel freeloader?

Cue Nintendo releasing new games even later in Europe because the sales won't be anywhere near as good as the (exported) US sales...

Zsinj

@CurlyJim:

Not defending NoE's crappy release schedule for an instant, but your Ace Attorney post is actually false.

Apollo Justice is set after the Phoenix Wright trilogy - correct.

The stories tie in - completely incorrect.

Without spoiling it for people who haven't had the chance to play AJ yet - there's no "tie in" with the plots of any of the PW games. There are a couple of characters, but no mention is ever made of any of the events of the previous games, and nothing of the PW games is in any way spoiled during AJ.

Anyway, AJ is not really a sequel. It's more like a spin-off as it's set in the same world. It's also got some totally sweet 3D cut scenes which show off the DS nicely.

Kazzahdrane

@CockroachMan: Oh trust me... I read magazines a plenty... Front Mission, Sieken Desentsu 4, Final Fantasy 3 US, Chronno Trigger...trust me, I knew.. and I suffered quietly... x(

Shiryu

Meh ive lost interest in SMBB. The bit i was most looking forward too (online) has not got the best of reviews and MArio Kart Wii with its full featured online mode will make it seem even worse.

More looking forward to the launch of WiiWare! Better get some points ready!

IanC

@CurlyJim: That happened on the SNES days too.. but there wasn't Internet on that time, so, you didn't knew it was happening :P

CockroachMan

June 27lol?? I've been playing it for almost two months. Guess I'll sell my NTSC copy about a few weeks beforehand and buy the PAL version then for the Club Nintendo points.

I have about 15,000 now - occasionally something cool like a Zelda CD or Wavebird comes along - those are the only two thigns I have ever bought! I would be overjoyed if the snes virtual console pad ever made it here.

Josh*

ARGH! I refreshed twice and my previous post wasn't there! *cries and runs away*

... Can I get one of those deleted? I hate superflouity.

CurlyJim

Why is there even a PAL territory? It always shocks me that people are willing to wait 2-4 months to pay more money for fewer titles. Um, hello, importing exists now, and it's cheaper and better.

Lov3

@Shiryu: We as kids didn't know any better in those days. Games just came when they did.

I feel like I've played this game to death already. :(

Chadders

@Makeda:
It's not like Nintendo suffer because people import. They get their cut in America too. So the only change apparently poor sales due to importing has is to misinform the developer about consumer interest, leading to even less Nintendo enthusiasm for releasing games in Europe, so more delays, so more imports...
Less "serves them right", more "thanks for all that extra rope to hang ourselves with"...

CurlyJim

@Makeda:
And thus the great cycle of Nintendo's European indifference continues. If it's bought in America, they get their cut anyway, so it's not like they suffer. It's the people who don't import, who get screwed because Nintendo decide it's not worth the effort to release stuff in Europe due to the apparent lack of interest.
So it's not so much "serves them right" as "thanks for giving us more rope to hang ourselves"...

CurlyJim

@Lightguy:

Same, I wonder how sucky the sales will be considering a bunch of us have alsready gone ahead and bought it elsewhere.
Well, serves Nintendo rigth fro screwing off the Europeans via Region coding in an age where mod chips and region free discs are the norm.

Makeda

We live in a world where Apollo Justice will be released in Europe before Phoenix Wright 3.

The game it's a sequel to. Like, the plots tie in and stuff.

At least that rarely happened in the SNES days. We would have never gotten either.

CurlyJim

I bet 'Everyone's Nintendo Channel' will also have some shitty name (similar to how America had Check Mii Out, we had some boring one)

But yeah, I say nearly anyone who wanted Brawl has it now.

Let's enjoy watching our monthly brawl sales be a lot less than that of America/Japan.

Then let's watch Nintendo think we don't like Brawl.

Ryumeka

Wii Ware: woohoo!
Smash Bros: meh. Freeloader, baby.

cdammers

How on earth is this possible?? It´s not like this game goes through millions of chat lines a-la Mass Effect...

What's the deal? Don´t localize the goddamn game! English is Universal!Is it that hard to turn NTCS into PAL or what??????¿?

Mateuderos

Nintendo thinks Europe is a country lol

rubadub

I would have bought Brawl in March had it been released on that date. But I won't be buying it in June, and that's not because I want to boycott Nintendo.

Due to the amount of unlockable content in Melee (namely the trophies), I was encouraged to play the game much more often than I would have done normally. So instead of stretching out the game long enough so that there was room for enjoying Brawl, Melee killed the gameplay for me.

When I think about having to complete Classic Mode with 35 characters, on top of the 24 characters I won with in Melee, that's just too much. It's like asking someone to complete every Mario Kart Grand Prix with every character.

I did play an import copy at a friend's house and it was enjoyable. But the fan appeal wore off quickly and I don't want to put time into the game when there are others to enjoy.

Raian1

Hahaha, is this the best they can do?

4 months to translate an effing fighting game? What the hell...

I really would have imported a Wii if they werent impossible to come by when I was buying mine.

The_Phiphler

@KirbySS: What im saying is that things are way, WAY better then they were... we should take victories like Mario Kart and be happy with things has they are...

Shiryu

Still going to buy it. I'm not going to throw away the thing I've been looking out for at least three months just because I want to boycott nintendo.

A reason would be nice, though...

marlblank

@CurlyJim: My pleasure. However, I'd highly recommend importing Trials and Tribulations, as it's an amazing game. First PW game with a real story arc going through all the cases.

But you'll be perfectly fine playing Apollo first. I'm trying to work out why someone would tell you that, but I'm coming up blank. Must have misunderstood or was yanking your chain.
...
...
Actually, play PW3 first. Your eyes will bleed going back to the low-res sprites after the beautiful, clean characters of Apollo Justice, trust me :-P

Kazzahdrane

Oh and I love the picture. I'm sure Wario is laughing a that huge dildo coming out of link's back.

IronsUK

About damn time! But i have completly lost interest now, because my mind had given up on it ever being released.

Rexter

I had almost lost interest. Then this happened. Damn it.

Wizzard

Everyone that thinks SSBB will not sell in Europe is forgetting the UK sales charts that get posted weekly on Kotaku! Remember 9/10 of the top 10 being Wii games? Remember most of them being quite crap games?

It will sell like hotcakes, and hotcakes would be no.1 on the Uk sales charts if only they qualified as video games.

IronsUK

tis about damn time, wonder why they couldn't just give a time frame, I know if I were European I would've already imported the game myself. Why hide in the shadows all the time, Nintendo?

PAULINK

made my week.

elronathon

Links sword looks very phallic.

4Degrees

I guess three months is better than the usual 6-months.

KM91

Despite the fact that I found the N64 original really boring, I might have been caught up in the hype and bought SSBB if they'd managed a worldwide release.

Now ... nope.

Mario Kart managed (near) simultaneous world-wide release, so why not all their big-name titles?

Also, since MKW is very much the same game as it's always been, updated for the new hardware (good thing), I have every reason to believe it'll be the same deal for SSBB (bad thing).

73mike

Finally!

Darkmoss

I'm gonna guess Nintendo are gonna release the mandatory firmware update to nerf the Freeloader sometime around June 27th...

Chadders

I have the NTSC version with freeloader. However my copy keeps crashing in the subspace coming up with an error screen. really bugs me a lot, but dont think I will buy the PAL version. I can still play the fights, and that is what the games are about, and eventually after fighting 5000 fights or something silly I wouldve unlocked all characters.

juliopalio

I care just enough to submit this post.

If they actually bothered with releasing games here before they feel old, who knows, maybe I would buy it.

sundby

This announcement is really put into perspective with what is happening next week. A game by a third party developer with huge story and side story content is going to be release in all territories (except Japan) on the same day across two platforms.

But Nintendo cannot deliver the PAL version of a game that is not exactly story driven within 4 months of the initial release. Really is a sad state of affairs.

cocomo

a little part of me inside just died with excitement o_o then I realised how long its taken, and I kinda loose interest...

Kiyota

As much as i want to bitch about this like everyone else, I'd rather touch Luke for bringing us this wonderful news. Besides, at least we have club Nintendo right, right? :'(

Gambia

@lachinay: you do realize that by playing melee and comparing it to brawl, you just did the same thing as playing CoD4 and comparing it to Duckhunt, or anything that different.

__

Anyway, im going to laugh so hard if the PAL version of Brawl is actually good.

And i say that because of all the nerfings they made for melee that actually made the came pretty interesting (chaingrabbing being obliterated, fox being as light as kirby, etc.)

So who knows, maybe the euros will get the last laugh in this situation.

Dogysamich

@Kazzahdrane: they sent me an update reminder to "prepare for wiiware", but I skipped it.

Mario Kart Wii had an unavoidable on-disc update that didn't crush the freeloader, so I'm still lucky for the moment.

Josh*

@Chadders: The update to nerf the Freeloader will be packed in with the Nintendo Channel or WiiWare shop updates. At least, that's what I'd do if I was them and I wanted to stop the Freeloader working.

Kazzahdrane

And as usual, no date for Australia...

Spik3balloon

I don't get why Brawl has so many fans. I mean, I tried playing Melee and got bored after 30 mins.
Considering that the gamecube controller is also recommended for Brawl (ie the games are gonna be very similar), I can't see the interest...

lachinay

I'm going to go ahead and laugh at all the people who are going to deny themselves the best multiplayer experience of the year (if not the generation) out of spite.

Roto13

@lachinay: Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks?

Schoolimangooli

@Josh*: Indeed, I assumed they would be skippable, but it might be that in order to keep using the Freeloader a Wii owner would have to sacrifice being able to use WiiWare or the Nintendo channel. Seeing as how those two updates are the only things I'm looking forward to on Wii this year (Lost Winds on WiiWare, and DS demos in my home!), I know which I'd choose.

Sucks to be a Smash fan in Europe though. I was really hyped for the game until a friend imported it and I went "meh" and remembered I like Melee but only for about 10 minutes. Nintendo would have got a sale from me if I hadn't played it first!

Kazzahdrane

nothing a little shipping cant handle

ceokhan

@Iceman B.: I don't think they even changed that in the PAL version of Melee.

KirbySS

Gods, I missread, I tought it was comming out 30 May... 2 months to go, then... :|

Shiryu

Yeah so, what excuse does NoE have for this?
Anyone?

Don't tell me changing the distance gague in the homerun contest from ft. to m. takes 4 months. ¬_¬

Iceman B.

Completely lost interest in this game.

Nintendo need to learn the art of global releases, then they can capitalize on the hype that get generated by this whole intertubes deeley.

TeaBean

@Aprocalypse: Bingo

I had my copy imported from Canada a month ago. The combined cost with a Freeloader was still less than what I'd pay in a store, and I got it three months early. Way to go Nintendo

Dragonzigg

What'll happen:

Few people will buy it because they've imported it, because it's half the price and three months earlier.

They will believe that no-one in Europe/Australia actually want the game, and screw us over even more next time. This seems to be the case so often.

Aprocalypse

@Roto13: But people have already bought Call of Duty 4!

SkutSkut

Wah, it's to days after my birthday :D

Ikiat

I'm laughing my ass off. All the hate here for a four month delay. Guys, this is not much regarding previous PAL release dates, I can tell ya. And it'll sell like hotcakes anyway. So sick of the fanboy kids.

PLUS: We got MK and WiiFit before it hits the states (ok, not four months before, but at least...).

schmax

Im a big fan of fighting games, 2d and 3d alike. I was skeptical about brawl when i first heard of it. I thought the same thing the average person over 18 thinks when they first see it. That this game is a gimicky fighting game for 13 year olds who dont take fighters seriously, and how deep can a fighting game be with 2 buttons. But i met some new gamer friends that played melee and i thought why not ill try it out. Besides the game has a very competetive fighting scene and brawl was just gonner be bigger, if not the most competetive fighting game out there(sadly i thought).

Anyways long story short i really got into it and as a fighter the game as very good dept. Its not really combo based but higher level play takes very good DI to be good. I have some quirks with it. For instance some characters are better than some at taking out others at higher play. Anyways what im tryin to say is i was really impressed with this game and id go so far as to say its one of the better fighting games out there quality and gameplay wise. I just hope i dont get disapointed with the new soul calibur and street fighter games coming out

Sinharvest

@schmax: And what, pray tell, are these 'fanboys' fanboys of?

KirbySS

@BlackDove: I'm not a fan, but I can enjoy it. Yahtzee just said all the things that I already said about Brawl and then some.

Americo

"Hell... it's about time!" Enough quotes, I have read this on the smashboards earlier today and OH MY GOD I HAVE THE HUGEST ERECTION EVER!!!

eskimo-bob

I actually expected for this announcement to make the whining stop.

I was proven wrong.

Americo

I imported too, Freeloader is a dream! and it works online! Epic. Glad to know my European brethren aren't waiting till November as expected!

kennyd1

Oh shit, I just read that MKWii is not out in the US.
Weird.

I was wondering why anyone was bothering to go to the MK roadshow if they could just buy the game and play at home.

73mike

@BlackDove:

"Yahtzee was right"

*shudders*

That guy can have his opinions and you can agree with them, but Yahtzee's word isn't very credible. Especially seeing how he NEVER SPOKE ABOUT BRAWL in his entire review.

Mikazukinoyaiba

It's almost two months since i got it...

such a good luck eurofags lol

LuiStrokes

I imported, but I will get the EU version. I'd prefer not havign to swap disks every time before starting the game, plus I'm having some probs with the NTSC colors on my TV.

Poison

That ain't too bad a wait really, considering that this is Nintendo. I'll get it, but probably not on launch day, I can wait for a price drop.

Alazar

Yeah, the hype has wore down, I don't want it anymore. GTA4 however, BRING IT ON!!

Ethereus

Finally, my friends shall be so happyiez :)

Zeouterlimits

My GAD the marketing dudes at EU Nintendo actually have brianz>.

i'll be very surprised if any buys this game, in fact ANY game during this time of they year.. [exams time] unless you want a FAIL!

Right time to release the game, for me anyway

HOVA

wow, I thought that it was already released... glad to see that the big companies care so much for Europe.. /sarcasm.. (-_-);

Shad0X

I swear, come next generation, I'm going to import an NTSC console from the very start and not wait until some means of playing imported games arrive for PAL consoles. I'm simply getting tired of NoE now, it just isn't good enough anymore.

The only good thing they've did for us lately is give us Mario Kart Wii a mere 2ish weeks before the US, but that's nothing compared to the US getting Brawl almost 4 months before EU.

MeleeKirby

that some clever launch strategy, now i can play wii fit and gta IV (possibly at the same time) with no interruptions until june. then its glastonbury and smash bros woo!

mbeck

YUS!!!

ren666

Unbelievable! I actually thought for a moment that they just wont release the god damn game in Europe. But as others saying in the thread Im thinking of not picking the damn game up just to show NoE that they cant do stupid shit like this. Wasnt Smash Bros the most selling game for GC? Strange to not care more for a potential nr 1 game then theyve done.

Konung

Wait ok sure now we have the date for ssbb but where is the euro release for professor layton? Well guess i'm importing afterall.

niacin

[childish tone]Well, it's your fault for having so many languages![/childish tone] Anyways, to all you "boycotters" and "fuck Nintendo!"-ers, you all are eventually gonna buy it, so don't even try.

@Raian1:

Are you trying to be funny? It's not like you HAVE to unlock every damn trophy and sticker and play every damn charecter on every damn mode and use each damn charecter to play each damn stadium event and beat every damned high score....Or do you have OCD?

Jac21

AMERICA FUCK YEAH

el.sand.bag

I'm all smashed out over here in North America, but I hope you guys get it soon! goodluck!

MetaKz

Man I just don't care anymore. Not even enough to import it. Which would just be the better option.

Bernard McGraw

That's the kind of crap that made me sell my Wii in the first place. I'm in Canada myself and Smash was delayed three times since it's original release date for us. And the Europeans have to wait even longer? Jeez. If you bought your console for just Smash... sell it like I did and get yourself a 360 - probably a better investment. :(

I don't understand why it's so hard to release everything at once to everyone's happy at the same time. Sorry to hear you guys got shafted. Not surprised most of you have already lost interest.

inn1t

Friends imported it and I played parts of it through them. Have mostly lost interest myself but I know I am going to buy it, SSB Melee was one of the most played games on the Gamecube.

SixFifty

You guys have it lucky, remember the wii finally is being sold in Korea just recently.

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