A Wheel of Time MMO could tempt me back. That is all.

Pombar

Well.. MMO's are now in crysis, so maybe is better to wait.

Yon Von Tleilaxu Kuxthom Thenxon

I remember when they first announced a Warhamer MMO. I just about wet myself in anticipation the 40k announcement. Unfortunately I was crushed to learn that the classic would be getting the MMO treatment. Im praying that someday we will finally see a truly great 40k MMO but I just cant get my hopes up for it.

-itis

Heh, two warhammer MMOs? Sounds like there might be a little competition there. Granted classic warhammer comes out way earlier, but I've always been a 40k guy personally.

ZhouYu

Hah.
That's a shame... Will the market for MMO's still be strong in a few years? I mean, surely by then WoW would have either further monopolised the market, or killed it by boring everyone.

Seyasb

A W40K MMOFPS sort of like Planetside, now that would rock.

TetsuBo

@pandafresh: Does. Not. Count :)

Luke Plunkett

wasnt there one for ps2 awhile back?

pandafresh

I just want a good 40k fps. Is that too much to ask for?

shadydentist

The only way anyone will be able to produce an MMO to compete with WoW is to put years and years of work into making a complete experience. I think the announcement that they're taking the time to actually flesh out the game is a better announcement than saying it'll be due out within the year. I'm kind of aching for a new MMO that doesn't have anything to do with the Warcraft universe.

Clamchop

40k rocks, but don't see how it would work in a MMO

Kyle81

@pandafresh: He said good.

SFLegend

@TetsuBo: I really don't understand why no one else has even tried to make a game like Planetside since! Well no, let me rephrase that, as I know people are trying, it just seems like they're always stuck in development hell. It's not even like Planetside was a bad game. It just started to lose players in hordes after the mess around with the BFRs, and even then (in my opinion) it was still more enjoyable than all of these grinding mmorpger games.
*sigh* I miss being a dropship pilot.

Scioptic

FOR THE EMPEROR!

40K > Fantasy battles

GuiltyDragon

@Kyle81: WH40k would present a single problem: Alliances. Because nobody likes each other.

Although being part of an MMO WAAAGH! would be friggin' fantastic.

chenry

@Pombar: A WoT MMO would be fantastic. I have never gotten into MMOs in the present form (used to play some MUDs back in the day), but I am a huge fan of the series. Hopefully the final book is as epic as RJ had planned on.

negativexer0

@sc00t420:
"so I take it you don't like warcraft games? :| "

God bless him, if that's the case. Warcraft is an extremely shallow franchise (and a copied one at it).

In any case the news aren't really news, and they're pretty logical. I doubt Games Workshop wants two MMORPGs (and MMORPGS aways end up conflicting one way or another for fanbase) based on their franchises coing out almost at the same time.

Abriael

"should I ever run into one that's both decent and based on a franchise or IP that I'm keen on,"

so I take it you don't like warcraft games? :|

sc00t420

@Scioptic: I still hold a special place in my heart for PS, used to be a dropship pilot with Druckwelle on Werner and there was hardly ever a dull moment to be had at all in that game, no matter how long you played.

I got Core Combat and tinkered around with BFRs but they screwed up a lot of the game's mechanics for me, so eventually I didn't feel like putting up with the balancing issues anymore and left.

But the MMOFPS genre isn't getting much love anywhere, at least not from developers and publishers. If any of you are familiar with Neocron (Version 2.1 Evolution), it's a really good game with an unmatched cyber-punk atmosphere to me, but suffers from spotty endgame, lack of players and really (financially) poor developers :_(

Then there's Huxley coming at some point... but I doubt it'll be any good at all and lets not even get started on "Hellgate" with its' optional "FPS camera".

Blood for the Blood God.
Skulls for the Skull Throne.

I'd go TAU anyway, many individuals fighting for the greater good. (WITH RAILGUNS! :D )

P.S: Let's see if Blizzard beats THQ to launch a "Galaxy of Starcraft" *laughs*

Blue_Six

Orksies is never beaten in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die so it don't count as defeat. If we runs for it we don't die neither, so we can always cum back for anuvver go, see!

Lono

@Shiryu: Except Warhammer universe is nothing like Tolkien's. Fantasy setting, elves and shit, but Warhammer universe is nothing like that Tolkien crap.

Warhammer.... is metal. Dio would approve

Kyle81

@sc00t420: Funny you should say "Warcraft" when I just call it my head "Warhammer rippoff" wich, by the way, I hear it in my head as "Tolkien ripoff".

Wonder if "World of Starcraft" will aririve before this one...

Shiryu

The only reason why World of Warcraft feels like it has depth is because of the story that came before it. But face it, Loch Modan and places like this had very little for the world. WoW wasn't a top notch game when it was released. In fact, it wasn't even completed. It was also practically unplayable.

At the current rate of the MMO's lifespan, I do not believe that the mmo that will destroy it needs a minimum of 10 years of work behind it or any of that jazz. I simply believe that the next MMO will come. And I believe the reason for that is simply that Blizzard will destroy themselves by continuing to make the bad choices that are causing so many people to lose focus on why they even liked the game in the first place.

People do not enjoy struggling to reach that next tier of gear, then Blizzard releases a new dungeon for roughly 5 guilds per server. People do not enjoy months upon months of work transferred to something that will take a couple of hours a week to equal. People want the warcraft experience in raiding to be moderately difficult rather than a steep learning curve every time before the majority of Burning Crusade bosses become another Naxxramas 2.0.

And worst of all. People do not generally enjoy being lied to. I know that I am quite dissatisfied that Blizzard will be taken 2-3 years per expansion. Some fans tend to wander by and scream "But that's how you release it in perfect condition, so everything is right". No sir. Not in WoW. I heard that same jumble of lies with The Burning Crusade, and nearly everything had to be patched after launch, and the last dungeon wasn't even complete. The game was incomplete, the expansion was incomplete, the next one will as well - and Blizzard will continue to make bad decisions in how they deal with the content. Those bad decisions will cause Warcraft to implode.

Another MMO does not need to have an extreme amount of money pumped into it - as the WoW Dev's Ego says. Nor must it have double to triple the amount of work that they put into Warcraft. It simply had to have a good gameplay as a backbone, with a creative world and something new to look at. As long as it can hold that interest and keep people excited for a few months beyond release, WoW will be destroyed.

And who better to do that than the very same game that truly developed the Terran units, The Zerg, The Orcs and also provided the art that Warcraft & Starcraft continues to mimic to this day.. Why shake the hand of a gaming celebrity impersonator, when soon enough the gaming celebrity itself will arrive?

Dennen

Expected news, they only just announced development last year. I don't expect anything concrete till 2010, an then another year or two in 'beta'.

belo

Starcraft: Ghost and Warhammer 40K are entities floating in the inmaterium.

Yon Von Tleilaxu Kuxthom Thenxon

I wonder how good this game will be. As I understand it, GW was working on 40K to be an RPG. But as the "universe" became bigger and bigger they realized there was no way for anyone to even scratch the surface of the background material in an RPG game. If the 40K MMO does not have the same grand scale as the source material (which I'm not sure there's enough programers in the world for), I don't think the game will be all that compelling. And if it is that large, it will be like several games (an Eldar game, a Space Marine game, an Orc game) that cross only on the battlefield.

worsethannormal

@Dennen:
Unfortunately you're mostly correct. Blizzard has continued to make very poor decisions on both sides of it's playerbase (casuals and hardcore). I raided until TK, and then I wondered what the point of it was? Wrath of the Lich King would be out in a year or two, and I'd be getting greens better than any epics I would have obtained for months just by entering the damn place. Not only this, but the game continues to attempt to cater to the casuals (the life force of WoW, quite literally) by making things easier and easier to obtain. But where then is the feeling of accomplishment for doing anything? I remember when even having a level 60 character was reason for exaltation. Now, any idiot has 2-3 70s, and finding a decent group out of your immediate group of friends is an impossible hope.

Compare WoW's faults with those of other MMOs, and it's not hard to see how easily it could topple should something else grab its hardcore or casual audience. Remember that all it takes is the small hardcore group to be pulled in to another proposition, and the lack of any decent players will pull WoW into RuneScape territory.

As much time as I've enjoyed playing WoW, and honestly value very much the people I've met, I've been done with it for almost a year now and nothing seems to be getting any better. I have high hopes for Bioware's MMO, but if it's not the second coming I'll probably just stick to good old console gaming.

Grahf

Shall we create a Kotaku guild whenever this comes out, or will I have to roam the universe solo?

Pezdispenser

@Dennen: "At the current rate of the MMO's lifespan, I do not believe that the mmo that will destroy it needs a minimum of 10 years of work behind it or any of that jazz. I simply believe that the next MMO will come." I totally agree with you there. The crown is always passed, Everquest had it for a long time now look at what SOE has become. Blizzard today reminds me a lot of Verant/SOE, especially now that ex-SOE devs are working with them.

CallMeRotten

@Grahf: I'm with you on that one sir.

To me, Blizzard is making major failures in big ways. Personally, I say that if an expansion is going to be released - let there be a roughly 1 month period before its release where uber buffs go rampant throught the big dungeons so the little guilds can get together and at least say "Well, the gear is pretty pointless. But at least we actually got to see the encounter." And the larger guilds can say "You know, I never really did have time to just stop and enjoy the boss script."... It's all going to become obsolete anyway, why not just allow people to enjoy it for a couple weeks before it does?

Hell, I wouldn't even care if the loot wasn't in there. I just enjoy the scripts and think it's a damn shame that you have to be a hardcore in order to see them, but even then - your focus is so zoned in towards what needs to be done, you don't really get to enjoy the bits and pieces of it.

I personally have high hopes for the Fallout MMO.

Dennen

Just to be ahead of the curve here (way ahead):

Nerf Terminator armour.

Also: genestealers are broken.

Koztah

@shadydentist: Fire warrior wasn't that bad...

Or at least, thats what I tell myself so I can fall asleep at night

KommissarK

I'm not a big online player, but this game might draw me in. I'd love to start out as a Blood Claw fighting Orks as part of an ad hoc pack of Space Wolves. Fighting from chamber to chamber on a Space Hulk against the enemies of mankind.

PeteRR

@KommissarK: Hey, we saw Chaos Dreadnaughts rendered up close and personal. That wasn't worth the cost of the game but I pretend tha was something fun about it...

I really hope the studio takes a live action twist on the MMO, more along the lines of a shooter or hack n slash game. For combat purposes only, of course, because I'm sorry but the WAR and WoW gameplay don't speak "40k" to me. I just don't get an epic feeling from clikcing my mouse for auto shoot, waiting for a powerup, throw the frag, auto shoot again, hope i get another grenade out before that Eldar shoots me down, type of bs.

I really don't have high hopes for this game, it all seems realy grim to me, but hopefully I'll be pleasently surprised. I don't think they should be thinking up ways to outdo WoW, they should focus on how they can deliver the 40k universe as an MMO the best they know how.

Garro

dammit.

you human are off the hook.....for now.

but rest assured, the Tau will prevail. Your stagnate Emperor will not hold our boundless curiosity for the stars.

The young shall inherit the stars! For the Greater Good!

Onizuka-GTO

I don't play Warhammer(not enough time or money, plus it takes a lot of devotion), But I love the stories(Horus Herecy in particular), the armies, and the art work. I would most definitely play an MMO based on it. Holy shit...

Namikus

If this comes to pass, I pray that they don't allow us to be Space Marines.

I don't believe the typical interdouche would play such a type of character well. They follow a strict code, and are limited in number.

Regarding playing as IG - no one will play the guard long if they're in a regiment and when about to die they break and run, and while doing that, the Commisar shoots them in the back for being cowards.

Eldar - even fewer than Marines.

Necrons - how can you have free will and play a Necron? You go where you're told.

Ditto 'nids.

Orcs - this might work.

Chaos - might work.

Hive people - also might work.

etc...

I'd imagine a 40k-based MMO would be closer to Necromunda than 40k.

N-Bomb

@Onizuka-GTO: You do realise that the Tau only exist right now because the Tyranids are a bigger concern? Damoclese Gulf crusade, cut short, unfortunately. Now the Kroot, them I have nothing against. I'd fight right next to a Kroot merc. band any day. As long as I wasn't the one who had to eat the brain.

@N-Bomb: Yeah, something along the lines of Dark Heresy, Inquisitor, or Necromunda would probably translate a lot better into an MMO. As much as I hate the thought of a guardsman going toe to toe with a Chaos Marine, what are the odds the studio has some game desing guru who can make things fit perfectly? I figure, if the games fun you might as well accept (for now) that it won't be true to the stories anyway.

Garro

@Kyle81: "Warhammer.... is metal. Dio would approve"

I've never heard Warhammer summed up better.

I'd really love to see THQ take the 40K MMO in a squad-based direction, with each player having direct control over a hero unit, and attaching to a squad they can issue commands to...not only would it be truer to the source material, I feel that a direction like that would really mix up the MMO market.

Aleeightone

Been waiting for a good non-fantasy mmo for a long time now, maybe this will fill that spot... too bad it's a long way off =\

Chillblain

May the Emperor watch over this and deliver unto us a divine game cast in his image!

Praise be to the Emperor!

....god I want this game to be here now

Alaron

"But Thrall would not advocate this barbaric feud, brother.
we must follow the Codes of Honrable...

WHACK!

"Wot sort of zoggin' boy waz dat? Ee was all speekin' oomie. Ad ta bust iz gob right good..."

Ruzi

"But Thrall would not advocate this barbaric feud, brother. We must follow the Codes of Honorable...

WHACK!

"Wot sort of zoggin' boy was dat? Ee was all speekin' oomie. Ad ta bust iz gob right good..."

Ruzi