This made me giggle. It's like saying, "I bake the most amazing cakes that anyone has ever made in my kitchen," or "I am the smartest person in the entire world who also happens to be sitting in this chair."

Microsoft, just... just pat yourself on the back there. Yeah, does that feel good? There you go. I see no real harm in this, but really, the wang waving is all sort of silly, isn't it? Can't they all just do their thing and try their best, independent of what everyone else is doing?

AlexDitto

@KM91:

Cant argue there. LOL!

EnigmaNemesis

Well, at least the the 360 still has a lead in the number of 10-year olds calling you a fag.

KM91

@chemical_eng_mx:

Totally agree. Competition on a consumer level is a well needed thing.

EnigmaNemesis

@Kotaku: "Microsoft totally won the race to 10 million in the U.S. That's for damn sure."

No they bloody didn't. According to their own press release, Xbox 360 had sold 9.9 million units in America by 31st march. The Wii had sold 10.61 units in America by 31st march. It's all there on wikipedia, and yes there's a bloody reference.

Honestly, they're just correcting one lie and re-iterating another.

Lov3

@EnigmaNemesis: I won't argue there, even though Nintendo has made quite a few innovations, it does take it pretty slow to catch-up in technologies.
But as I've always said, the more competition the better for the industry, there is more effort put into things and there is more variety for everyone.

chemical_eng_mx

@yanipheonu:

Can you explain how they are getting their ass kicked?

They are still selling systems.

Still getting exclusives.

Still getting the most games sold per system (attach rate).

Still selling tons of software with record sales, making tons of money.

Still having lots of games developed for it.

etc etc etc

The only "ass kicked" scenarios, are that of fantard banter on message boards. It sure isnt effecting MSFT negatively financially or support wise by developers.

EnigmaNemesis

LOL, Excellent! These announcements are getting so spiny Kotaku will need to issue sick bags for its readers.

Jelster

@somarix:
well if your doing a study i play on 56" HDTV

Dakobah

Xbox 360 has the largest global install base of any current gen high definition gaming console.

Meaning they're saying it's getting it's ass kicked by a last-gen system release AFTER it. Nice job Microsoft.

yanipheonu

I must be in the minority but I don't really see anything wrong with what they've said. The 360 really isn't competing against the Wii because they're targeting different demographics. The 360 is going after the traditional, more hard-core gaming community that seems to have a focus on more mature and fast paced games that are pixel pushers. The Wii is taking a different route by focusing on casual gamers with more pick up and play games.

This is more of a personal observation and doesn't really have any solid facts behind it (just like my statements above) but I don't see many people deciding between a Wii and a 360/PS3, I see people picking it up because they only care about Nintendo games/products or already have a "HD" console.

jihadjoe343

I play my Wii alot more then I play my 360, I will admit I don't have GTA4 yet, but I still have alot of Wii games I'm trying to beat.

BassForever

he could have also said "Xbox 360 has the largest global install base of any current gen gaming console with a X on it." and if he's going to take the HiDef route shouldn't he discount the ones without HDMI which is all the inital install base prior to upgrades which are still out there

Bleentastic sees bandwagon and jumps

@Naelok: Damn you! If you hadn't pointed that out, I never would've noticed...and now I'll have it ingrained in my mind forever. FOREVER. >_<

Redgeworth?

spiderweb1986

I wonder ... how many x360 gamers play it on a HDTV/monitor, and same thing about PS3 gamers. I know for sure that most PS3 customers know they'll soon buy an HDTV, or get one together with the PS3. I lasted only 1 week without a widescreen monitor for the PS3 :).
[many PS3 games, like Warhawk, are unplayable on SDTV]

somarix

@chemical_eng_mx:

I am just playing devil's advocate here.

Consoles have been always about graphical enhancements, etc. Not so much storage medium. Nintendo was especially guilty of this. Since now, that Nintendo chooses not to, since it would cost them more than they could bare to compete to do so, it is all of a sudden acceptable. When at one time, it was not.

Is all.

EnigmaNemesis

They didn't forget about it, they were doing two things: solidifying the fact that Microsoft and Sony aren't competing against the Wii...and sending an "oh snap" to Nintendo.

justhesh

@EnigmaNemesis: Well, all three consoles are part of the 7th generation of gaming consoles, saying the Wii isn't in this generation because it lacks hig-def would've been like saying the N64 wasn't current-gen back in the day because it was the only console still using cartridges and not moving on to Cds.

chemical_eng_mx

And the Wii has sold more Smash Brothers than the PS3 and 360 COMBINED! Take that Microsoft/Sony. >:0

But seriously. That spin was pretty sad.

Santa_Lock22

@kingclip: How about is convex?

Anemone

@LedRush: Get gamefly. Theres some pretty good ps3 games out there. I dont know though maybe its different for me since my 360 was stolen, and i replaced it with a ps3. So all my games are ps3 games even the multiplat ones.

Detre

Hey, it happens. Even I forget I have a Wii sometimes and it's right there, mere feet from my face.

That was just mean. Funny, but so damn mean. Now where did I put my Wii...

KeroseneClimax

I love that pic of Reggie striking an Edgeworth pose.

Naelok

hahahha what a bunch of dicks

TP/\C SHKR

The constant spinning is making me dizzy.

EmeraldDragon

@chemical_eng_mx:

I guess it doesnt mean hi-def since Nintendo isnt doing it huh?

EnigmaNemesis

@karasu is my homeboy: Crap -- addend my state with . . . and has that dumbass Spiderman font! THERE!

kingclip

current-generation console? thank you Michael, i love you!

Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.

Since when does current gen=high def?
Btw, anyone else notice it now says "Start a discussion" instead of "Post a comment"? Given many posts I've seen I think it's quite appropriate, especially in these sales numbers fanboy troll baiting posts hehe

chemical_eng_mx

That's one way to add salt to the wound on the PS3, but alas Microsoft forgets that the race is still on. If Nintendo or Reggie, mostly Reggie, has anything to say about it, he'll make use of the Wii's proverbial penis and spray a golden shower on the both of them.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

@LedRush:
the wii doesn't have a sh!tload of fps's or point and shoot the target games, therefore it's not regarded as a worthwhile system for most people :/

unit

Don't we all, McWhertor...don't we all.

Wolfers

Could somebody call Microsoft and tell them the direction to the nearest schoolyard? -_-

Dragonzigg

@okenny :):

So true.

When are people going to realize... what Nintendo is doing is not having any effect on the other two. The only thing that effects the other two, are each other.

EnigmaNemesis

@karasu is my homeboy: DOH!

symeon6

@Michael McWhertor: LOL! OMG... this is why I love you! They're going to have your ass for lunch! Who? You know who ;)

okenny :)

The Xbox360 is currently the leader in green and white consoles played with Xbox brand controllers world wide.

xerus`

I predicted this response. It was so obviosly wrong that I was surprised that Kotaku repeated it without commenting on it.

Also, I don't see how anyone could forget about the Wii. For me, the only time I play the 360 is when friends come over for rock band/GH (though I concede it has many more "good games" than the Wii...it's just that there hasn't been a new one for me this year) and I've owned the PS3 for a year and I still don't own a game for it (it's a helluva good BR/DVD player, though.

LedRush

@Michael McWhertor: Even I forget I have a Wii sometimes and it's right there, mere feet from my face.

sigh... sad but true. My Wii is still crying for better games, myself a bit too perhaps.

Acunia

@kingclip: lol! Yeah! What he said!

symeon6

@kingclip: Actually, Xbox 360 Elite model is black with a curved top.

Yeah, hate to break it to you.

Don't feel bad, though. The PS3 is the highest selling next gen console that will soon host an online social experience by the name of Home.

karasu is my homeboy

@kingclip: I lol'd.

ShirtGuyDom

Heh Reggie's like 'oh well, I still gets paid bitches'

ca$h

This is silly on their part. It's like Sony exclaiming that they have the highest sales of any next gen console featuring Six Axis^TM control capability.

It's a known fact that Microsoft ignores the Wii and sees the PS3 as it's sole competition, so I'm not surprised, though.

karasu is my homeboy

Whatever! I own a PS3, and I'm quite sure it's the WORLD WIDE LEADER BY A MILE in next-gen hi-def consoles that are black with a curved top!

kingclip

"Even I forget I have a Wii sometimes and it's right there, mere feet from my face."

Mcwhertor, reading this sentence aloud cracked me up

LittleBigPlaneteer

Oh, way to go. I suppose they can use their own definition of current-gen if they like, but that's splitting some mighty fine hairs to exclude the Wii.

AvidAbey

This is the force the Wii has unleashed.

It sits so in its own pile of money, it's not even a contender anymore.

MSFT should just benchmark their sales with the PS3.

Fyren

What he means to say is that "Xbox 360 has a larger global install base than the PS3" adding, "Neener neener neener".

thefais

Nintendo said before the Wii came out that they were going with a Blue Ocean approach, "Not competing with other 'next-gen' consoles." I think Microsoft has the right to claim leadership if Nintendo doesn't even consider itself in any competition... even if I do think considering this all a competition is retarded in the first place.

DaveKap

"Xbox 360 has the largest global install base of any current gen high definition gaming console."

Microsoft for the SPIN

LittleBigPlaneteer

"Xbox 360 has the largest global install base of any current gen high definition gaming console."

Whatever that means...

ShirtGuyDom

@Yetanotheruninspiredscreename:

You totally missed my point.

I am not comparing. I will leave that for the console e-penis heads out there...

I am saying, that the "Wii kicking MSFT's ass" isn't really kicking their ass... since what the Wii is doing, doesn't negatively effect the 360 or the PS3 for that matter. Things are still going along.

The only thing that can effect the PS3 or 360 is each other.

EnigmaNemesis

MS is in its own little world.

Grimmjow Jeagerjaques

This means current HD systems right? Well what that mean to Sony is that exclusives will keep moving over to the 360 if not just for more money. I don't thing companies want to pass up 19 Million gamers. Even if a game does 1-2 million $$ in sales that is great for the creators (developing companies)...!

JorgieX

@EnigmaNemesis:

They are still losing money hand over fist though. Only one quarter have they made a profit on the xbox and that was due to the Halo 2 release.

As for attach rate the Wii software worldwide has been outselling PS3 and Xbox 360 software these past few months.

Last round of attach figures had the wii ahead of the ps3 and nearly close to the xbox 360 rate. The wii attach rate is constantly growing while the xbox 360 attach rate has remained the same.

As for exclusives the wii has had a bunch recently announced.

Wii hardware and software sales are increasing while the xbox 360 has remained the same. Even in Japan where the PS3 is the cheapest the wii is outselling it ten to one on a weekly basis.

Wii games are also making sales record. How many million selling games does the xbox 360 have worldwide? The wii has of March 2008 26 million selling titles including third party.

Total wii lifetime software sales as of March 2008 is 148,440,000. How many games have been sold for the xbox 360 worldwide?

Yetanotheruninspiredscreename

Hah-larious! We should come up with our own unbelievable but true spin statements for each console.

Gomerboy

No company has sold as many Xbox360's as Microsoft. It's true.

Spaceboy

The Xbox 360 is the best selling console this generation with a 360 in it.

Roto13

Nintendo did say all that stuff about blue ocean and not competing with the others consoles. So maybe Microsoft is building on that idea? That since Nintendo says they aren't in the race, they can't be winning? They're just winning a race on the same track, at the same time for the same cash prize?

Spaceboy

So to figure out what they really meant to say, you must replace any instances of "any current next-gen console" with the "the PS3".

Lame. They just need to say what they mean and quit being misleading.

VishusBurn

That's if you count the Wii as a current gen system and not a gamecube in disguise with a white stick wand thingie

Orionsaint

The Xbox360 is currently the leader in Xbox360's sold worldwide.

Ruzi

Why couldn't they just say we sold more units than Sony? I mean, is there any other hi def console out there? That "unintentional confusion" they caused? Totally intentional.

Arsenal

These articles just weed out the fanboys. Look at how all 3 factions are rearing their ugly heads in this one article. "I am not a fanboy" umm yes you are

MizzouPhan

Typical PR response.

alecpyron

@ShirtGuyDom: It means exactly what it looks like. Wii looks like, dare I say, a Gamecube 1.5. This is especially apparent when you play sequels to Gamecube titles...but then again, reusing graphical assets for sequels seems to be the norm these days.

I still love my Wii. After finally acquiring one two weeks ago I suddenly realized there's a smattering of sweet games for the little guy, far more than most other people say.

Gunhaver

@Acunia: lol

i haven't touched my wii in forever. my wife touches it every once in a while though, which is always nice.

pasquinelli

@Raziel Dune: act*

Raziel Dune

we could always be like little kids and hide under the covers and ack like the monster (Wii) isn't there.

(i had to lol at me calling the wii a monster)

Raziel Dune

BASED in the U.S.

AsWater

They're also the number one high definition gaming console manufacturer in the U.S.

AsWater

I thought their claims seemed a bit off base in the earlier article. Right or wrong though I think they'd have been better not qualifying their comment. Just made themselves a laughing stock.

MattB

@ EnigmaNemesis

Psh, I'm just saying, while they brag they have the highest sales, they're being beat in sales by a so-called "last gen" system.

I believe the argument was about sales, not that other crap.

yanipheonu

I can definately see someone like Shane Kim saying, "We're selling this many 360's!" then turning around and seeing Reggie sitting there like that.

Nightfang777

@auberondreaming: Oh no the 360 has the three in the name market tied up as well! :)

auberondreaming

@auberondreaming: Oh no 360 has the three market tied up as well :)

auberondreaming

So does that mean Sony can say they have the largest install base of any system with the number three in the name? How about the largest install base of any blue ray capable console? You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby.

auberondreaming

I wonder how many of those 19 million suffered the RRoD? I can't help but laugh when a console company proudly totes a high sales number when a good percentage of those sales ended up being faulty machines that needed to be fixed or replaced. :/

GhostWhoWalks

Of those 19 million units sold, 9 million of them are to replace RRoD afflicted units.

Korby

@Jelster: Say... I like the way you think.

Michael McWhertor

@EnigmaNemesis:

The Wii has a higher attach rate than the PS3...fact. You should be more careful with your statements.

LedRush

"They may have an impressive Xbox Live user base, but 19 million Xbox 360s sold does not a current gen leader make."

I see you have been studying under Yoda, patawan.

"They may have an impressive Xbox Live user base,
but 19 million Xbox 360s sold does not make a current gen leader."

zerokoolpsx

@EnigmaNemesis: I'm going to call that lies and madness. When christmas rolls around and parents are searching for "whatever the newfangled gaming gadget is this year" They're going to have a choice between wii, 360 and PS3 and since the wii is cheapest system and also has the most kid friendly(read "exploiting") games on the shelf, which one do you think they're gonna buy? I'd say that affects the sales of the other two pretty drastically. Imagine the holiday sales of the 360 and ps3 if the wii didn't exist. That goes for birthdays too. Nintendo is reaching a new audience, but that doesn't mean they wont take sales away from the 360 PS3 too.

JokesJokes

@royaljester: Congratulations on not making any sense - you can't just say that Sony's leading in hardware by adding in last gen's console and their handheld.

Ignoring the lack of logic, you're also wrong. Nintendo's hardware sales of the Wii and DS are well ahead both Sony and Microsoft.

spiderweb1986

And Playstation is the leader in gaming hardware, because you can add PS2+PSP+PS3. Oh and the 60 GB PS3 had the biggest gaming library of any console.

royaljester

@LedRush: Wrong [www.joystiq.com]

Xbox 360: hardware to software ratio: 6.59 (hardware total sold = 6.8 million; software total sold = 44.8 million)
PlayStation 3: hardware to software ratio: 3.58 (hardware total sold = 1.9 million; software total sold = 6.8 million)
Wii: hardware to software ratio: 3.44 (hardware total sold = 4.5 million; software total sold = 15.5 million)

Garo

@spiderweb1986: Actually, I'm pretty sure he was joking...but I've been wrong before.

JokesJokes

@DaveKap: They aren't making the same sort of games so they don't compete in that way but NIntendo still creates video game hardware as does MS so they are in competition with each other so no MS isn't number one in anything other than desktop monopolies.

toadwarrior

its funny to see ms try so hard to look stupid. good for nintendo understanding what the avg joe wants you know if ms could do the same thing they would have, because at the end of the day its to make money.....oh wait they are. what is it called anyway newton?

Jad35

@EnigmaNemesis:

You're wrong, and you don't know what "competition" means.

Blue ocean strategy isn't about "not competing," it's about making competition unable to compete back. It's about making them irrelevant. That was what Nintendo was trying to get at. Yes, Nintendo is still competing for hardcore gamers. Plenty of hardcore gamers are buying their system. But they're also competing for all three tiers of noncustomers, which is something Sony and Microsoft can't hope to compete with at the current time.

Huckleberry

This reminds me of that Direct TV commercial where they're coming up with some figures for advertising.

"Jim, whip up some numbers that make it /look/ like we have, like, I dunno, a /thousand/ HD channels."
"We can't say that..."
"90% of all statistics can be made to say anything-"
"90%?"
"-50% of the time."
"...I think we can make that work."

[farm4.static.flickr.com]

Garonyldas

does anyone play the wii tho? mines under 2" of dust.

Raikkenon

@Raikkenon: Those of us that actually go out and get games for it from time to time still do. I imagine there are at least as many- or more- people who let theirs sit because they got tired of Wii Sports or something.

Garonyldas

McWhertos, keep your Wii closer to your heart! Then you wont need to see it to know it's there.

@Raikkenon: Everyday, my good sir, everyday.

[shir.no.sapo.pt]

Sometimes its hard to choose what to play...

Shiryu

Well placed words could make the NGage's sales seem impressive.

marmidukestank

It's so obvious that that bulls*** was only stated that way explicitly to exclude the Wii. They might as well be officially saying they don't consider the Wii to actually be current gen.

The Maginomicon

"Hey, it happens. Even I forget I have a Wii sometimes and it's right there, mere feet from my face."

LOL. Haven't touched my Wii since I bought a 360.

...Reading that aloud, it sounds kinda wrong...

Ehetyz

@Garo: Wrong. You're not even close.

[vgchartz.com]

Xbox 360: 6.43
Wii: 4.78
PS3: 4.13

Things to note...the Wii has sold more software than any other console (121 million to the 360's 120 million (PS3 picks up the rear at 51 million).

While we're at it Garo, I can't believe that you tried to pass off Oct 2007 numbers as currently applicable. I don't know if you're mistake was deliberate or not, but it is inexcusable to call someone out on a public forum and then use information that has been proven not to be applicable.

If you search for any article published after the financial results of the companies were released, you'll see that many sites have picked up the story that the Wii sells more games per console than the PS3.

It's a fact, and one that most of the world has accepted.

LedRush