The work of guys like Brett Ratner, not to mention the executives who think his work is good, are the root cause of Hollywood is as fucked up as it is right now.

Guys like him couldn't tell an original story if they wanted to. Their life experience is usually so insulated to cinema culture than their work cannot help but be derivative. The only thing these guys know is the movies of their youth, they have nothing to say, no point of view of the world other than the one provided within the narrow lens of their childhood media consumption.

Hey- maybe video game-movie adaptations is the perfect place for him! He'll be a creatively bankrupt filmmaker adapting creatively bankrupt videogames to a creatively bankrupt medium. At least his crimes against cinema will then be limited to films that are almost inherently awful regardless of who directs them.

stranger

And another hack joins the gamafilm circus.

Woo...

sir_carrot

@boopadoo: "So...what does he do again?"

He's a hack with connections. A gun-for-hire who will do as he's told. A guy with no artistic sensibilities whatsoever.

mind in rewind

Maybe he can take over Metal Gear and add that to his Series-I-Ruined list.

GhaleonUnlimited

He looks like a scruffy Lowtax.

NighTrekr

Wasn't it Ratner who ruined Xmen United?

I_fit_in

@slomo788: Nah, Hollywood is unwilling to make good game movies. Ability abounds and is stifled by the studio business model, too many willy-waving producers and endless re-writes to cynically target demographics.

Spoffoth

To: Brett Ratner: Stop making movies. You just aren't very good at it.

Thanks.

ibelli

Viewtiful Joe: Directed By the Wachowskis
Kane and Lynch: Directed By Michael Mann

Thing is, Brett Ratner isn't that good of a director. His credits include that Jessica Simpson "Public Affair" video. I remember based on her comments on some show about it that he thinks he's such a big shot, apparently requiring "take after take after take", it was a music video, not a film.

By Guitar Hero commercials, does he mean those awful ones with David Cook?

kylo4

@dabu: to be fair Spiderman 3 is all the studios fault Sam rami wanted a completly diffrent movie but they forced him to make changes so he said ok screw it and well he gave us spiderman 3. Now the studio is begging him to come back and make 2 more.

clintonskneecap

Poll: Were you guys more disappointed in X3 or Spider-man 3? That's a tough one...I lost many good brain cells to each.

dabu

@PlayerX: No, Im serious. Nintendo and Sega are really protective over their property. I know, since I was involved in project with Sega and they reveal information that I would gladly distribute to the gaming community.

A_Knothole_Resident

@wildfire759: Hi FIVE!

My god X-Men 3 was trash. Even worse, Bryan Singer didn't direct it so he could do Superman...which was average.

dabu

Woah, woah, woah, Brett Ratner the Rush Hour guy? The Rush Hour guy that did X-Men 3: The Last Stand?
...
He can burn in Hell for making that piece of shit movie and ruining the X-Men movie franchise. Honestly, I hate that film with ever fibre of my being. The only good thing that came out of that movie was that Kelsey Grammar was perfectly cast as Beast. That's it. Nothing more.

He should never be allowed to even think of a film that doesn't star Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker!

wildfire759

Please to be staying away from my video game movies, Rat. I liked Rush Hour, but so far that's been the only movie of yours I liked.

LoopyChew

My hopes and desires lie entirely on the upcoming Max Payne movie....

On a side note, has anyone realized that the GOOD movie directors are making video games due to the popularity of video games. The bad movie directors are trying to make video games into movies... coincidence? I think not!

StagnatedLives

@mind in rewind: So...what does he do again? If he can't tell the difference between a good script and a bad script, what good is he? Is he just the guy who toes the line?

...and how is this going to be any good for the game industry?

This is not anger aimed at you, mind you. It's just so friggin' frustrating to know that millions are getting thrown in these movie peoples' direction when most people in the actual videogame industry see nothing close to what these guys make.

boopadoo

And Ratner is terrible.

JH315

@PlayerX: Actually, Medal of Honor was made as a result of Saving Private Ryan. Call of Duty was made as a result of Medal of Honor, so if a movie is made based on Call of Duty, it's real pedigree is actually Saving Private Ryan.

DOUBLE ZING!!

JH315

@A_Knothole_Resident: That was sarchasm, right? SMB?

PlayerX

@bigsamboni: Stephen Spielberg already did. It's called, "Saving Private Ryan"

ZING!!!

PlayerX

Well, if anyone could pull off a decent GTA movie, it'd be him. He did pretty well with the first two Rush Hours (didn't see the third...) and "Family Man" is one of the best movies I've ever seen.

Why family man? Well, A) it's a good movie, but B) it had lots of fast story points, great pacing. That, and it was a great movie.

PlayerX

@mind in rewind: Yeah, a movie that big, whatever studio was making it probably had complete control over things like the script. And studio heads aren't exactly the best judges as to what's a good script and what isn't. More than likely, if he had asked for a rewrite, they would have asked for a different director.

hodayathink

or The Zany Adventures of Dj Ruby Rod! I would watch that...

VakeroRokero

I hope he makes the "Spiderman: The Video Game" movie!

VakeroRokero

No! keep the bad, boring man away from my video games!

Fishballs

@KeroseneClimax: I don't know. After X-Men 3, I wouldn't trust Ratner with anything, whether it be Metroid or I Wanna Be The Guy.

Lezard

Prison Break: The game

plz make it.

MetalGearMax

Ratner is a hack. Granted, he's one of the better hacks, but that's like arguing the difference between being fat and morbidly obese.

dry-roasted-peanuts

@boopadoo: You're assuming that Ratner has some idea of what makes a good or bad script.

You're also overestimating the amount of control he has over the movies he directs.

mind in rewind

@KeroseneClimax:Roger Avary was set to write and direct Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I'm not sure how that will pan out after he killed that guy, though.

mind in rewind

@Dorphat the Insomniac:

Crash Bandicoot: Twinsanity is the only game I can think of that was actually intended for that role, and like hell I would let Ratner muck up even that game.

Although, Jackie Chan playing Neo Cortex and Chris Tucker as Crash would be interesting.

Lijik

Kudos for using the word "piqued" properly on the internet.

wild_world_girl

@hodayathink:
@billnabors65:

So, if it was the script's fault, then shouldn't it have been Mr. Ratner's job to FIX them? He's, like, the director and stuff! He could have said, "oh, there's something wrong with continuity in this scene," or, "hey, this script really, really sucks." Instead, he just said "Fuck it. Ain't my franchise."

I liked Red Dragon, but that wasn't because of his "directing."

boopadoo

Well, since someone already made the line about Hollywood being unable to make good game movies, I'll be on my way.

Crawl to China

walk away Ratner... just walk away.
seriously though, better him than Boll.
although Ratner does fall into the Michael Bay/Jerry Bruckheimer/Joel Silver category, so NO.

decodergrizzly

@Archaotic:

Yes, they had soul. They also exhibited some very respectable film-making and characters that, for all their gee-whiz superhero spectacle, developed in reasonably compelling ways. Then our friend Brett Ratner came along and mucked up all the good progress made previously in the franchise.

@mind in rewind:

Aptly put. Around Rush Hour 3's theatrical release, I read an interview of Ratner by Rotten Tomatoes. His arrogance is staggering. Interesting how every bleeding trailer and TV spot for his movies has his name lambasted all over it when he reeks of the same slick corporate stink as any number of nameless stock directors.

Cam_Ras

@billnabors65:
Good point

It seems that many of these game to movie projects are picked based only on the bankability of the franchise and then they just build a loose plot around the concept.

If they would pick a game with an excellent story and just stick close to the original material but with of course more editing and movie-like production they could be awesome.

If you are listening Gore Verbinski, do exactly what I just said for Bioshock! You too Paul Thomas Anderson! If you make a Metal Gear movie that sucks I will personally smash you in the head with a bowling pin just like Daniel Plainview did to Elil!

Weasel3689

Bah, I've got no grudge with Ratner. Though he directed that shitty film Money Talks, he did do Rush Hour and X3, which both films I didn't genuinely hate or love one way or another. Though I'd be on the fence if he was directing a film adaptation of Activision games like Call of Duty, Quake or Return to Castle Wolfenstein, I wouldn't act like a sobbing vagina either. He may be the director, but the scriptwriter(s) deserve some flak too if the movie is poor.

KeroseneClimax

@hodayathink:Don't forget Inspector Gadget and The Last Action Hero.

mind in rewind

@polarenvy:

DON'T SAY THAT! He might be listening!

I am already pissed enough that there are bad sonic games choved out by sega, I will not stand for crappy movies based on sonic!

Oh god.....I can just imagine a cgi movie with jackie chan as VO for sonic and chris tucker as tails *shudder*

Weasel3689

Hey, as long as he picks a decent project and hires some good writers I'll give it a chance. Most game-to-film projects are horrid because the source material was poorly written in the first place. Who played Dungeon Siege for its plot? DOOM? Resident Evil? There's a pattern here, people.

billnabors65

I don't blame Brett Ratner for screwing up X-Men 3. I blame whomever the hell wrote that script. It wasn't just bad, it was unbelievably bad. From the writers of xXx: State of the Union ([www.imdb.com]) and Elecktra ([www.imdb.com]). Who the hell thought that would work out well?

hodayathink

Good for him...

But, I am developing a new game for XNA; $100 here I come!!

herfy

X3: Never forget.

TomSkylark

Please no! Uwe Boll already screws up enough of them, we do need him ruining video games too.

Zytokis

so now he wants to butcher video games like he butchered X-MEN 3??? no thanks.

tenkaix

@marmidukestank: haha! genius.

Polite_Society

@Nirolak: Jackie*

Nirolak

Hmm, which fighting games are left for him to make a movie about... I've got it!

Virtua Fighter: The Movie
Starring Jack Chan as Akira Yuki and Chris Tucker as Jeffry McWild. Promised to provide tons of laughs and martial arts thrills!

Nirolak

Yeah, no thanks Mr. Ratner.

TOWER_JUNKIE

Brett Ratner is the dictionary definition of douchebag. And hack. He has two entries.

mind in rewind

@polarenvy: Oh hell no! This guy better not touch Sonic. However, I dobut that will happen. Just like Nintendo, Sega is very protective of their property and reluctant to even let a US studio produce a movie based on their characters.

A_Knothole_Resident

I would've said great a few months ago. But then I saw Rush Hour 3. I'm not sure how they screwed up a great franchise so badly without anybody noticing it throughout that whole movie...

Samos42

He should do a movie about Sonic the Hedgehog, after he tasted success and started drinking which ruined his career. In the movie he has to sober up and retrain himself to defeat the evil Doctor Robotnic.

polarenvy

@AntiZERØ: It was like getting slapped in the face and then you're expected to laugh.

interstate78

@AntiZERØ: I'm french canadian, not even from France and just watching Rush Hour 3 was painful.

It's incredible how many jabs they can take at the French and get away with it without anybody crying out 'racism' or something.

interstate78

I predict Mega Man: The Motion Picture in his future. Ostensibly based on the first NES game, all of Ratner's inspiration for the characters and story will come from staring at that horrid box art. Mega Man will be played by none other than Mel Gibson.

Lezard

@Dorphat the Insomniac: Viewtiful Joe

Spartan1308

COOKING MAMA

Starring Diane Keaton as Mama and Chris Tucker as the evil corporate suit who wants to shut down Mama's Kitchen. To save her restaurant, Mama must COOK. THE BEST MEAL. EVERRRR!

A BRETT RATNER Film.

marmidukestank

@interstate78: If Chris Tucker was in a game...oh god I would get the team kill game over from just wanting him to STFU.

D Mitsuki

X Men III, the worst movie I've declared that I'll ever see. And I refuse to see Rush Hour 3 again, it just felt so different from the others.

AntiZERØ

A guitar hero movie with a tenacious d feel would be so awesome, hahaha I can imagine a apearance by a badass guitarist to like MAB and the guy wining with a double guitar hero axe or a quad or something

D Mitsuki

Ghasp...
Command and Conquer any one???
Just imagine all that over acting on the big screen...

hk458

Requesting a Commander Keen movie here.

How amazing would it to see a dopefish on a big screen?

yanthrax

Guitar Hero movie?
...
oh god

Grey Gecko

@hk458:
At least they had soul. The Singer/Hayter movies weren't total bullshit, but Ratner's entire effort in Last Stand just seemed phoned in, like he didn't care at all about the material he was working with. That was what I took offense to.

Archaotic

"Cue line about Hollywood unable to make good game movies."

Hollywood is unable to make good game movies.

slomo788

@LittleBigPlaneteer:
That name should never be mentioned around here...
Reading that name in the same time frame as reading about movies and videogames almost gave me a heart attack...=/

hk458

Dude Brett needs to learn how to make good movies first.

Dauragon C. Mikado

@Archaotic:
The Bryan Singer versions were just as corny as part 3.

hk458

Look what Uwe has started :(

LittleBigPlaneteer

@hk458:Wait I have a better dream...good movie based videogames...or good videogames, that are based on movies, that were based on books....sigh...

hk458

Is anyone else worried about the fact that his interested was piqued by doing "a few ad-type spots for Activision's Guitar Hero"? Instead of an actual game with...you know...plot...

-shudders at the thought of a "Guitar Rush Hero" starring Chris Tucker-

Dyram

Good videogame based movies???
...Sigh...one can dream no???

hk458

PLUS I read the article wrong.

Oh, the pain!

interstate78

@Dorphat the Insomniac: Sam and Max. I hope that ruined your day. :(

Maldron

i bet he'll will make call of duty movie

bigsamboni

@Dorphat the Insomniac: Army of Two: The Movie. With Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan.

riffleraffle

Crap I spelled their 'they're' and I always smirk when I see other people do it!

Woe is me!

interstate78

So, since the games business is more exciting than the movie industry, you're choosing to stay in the movie industry.

Bravo. Some might say you don't get it. I'm one of them.

Maldron

If they're games are as fun as their movies.

Count me out

interstate78

This is the guy who made X-Men: The Last Stand. Judging by what he did to the franchise made into quite the epic by the combination of Bryan Singer and David Hayter, he'd better stay away from any of the franchises I like, or I might just have to cry.

Archaotic

Stay away Ratner, you've already tainted the X-Men!

riffleraffle

so... which game is a
slapstick action comedy?
it's all he's good at.

Dorphat the Insomniac

Which game would everyone like to be made into a movie, and I'm saying if the game were made into an actual GOOD movie, out of my list of choices?
A. A new Mario movie.
B. A Zelda movie.
C. A MGS Movie.
D. A GTA Movie.

Underhyped