@snakepliskin: Enzyte's not that bad, it's the Extenze commercials that annoy me. Hell, I see more than just commercials for that crap. Once Comedy Central, Spike (All three right in a row in that order on our channel lineup, the first and last of which I actually watch) go off the air for the night, they air numerous showings of the 30 minute Extenze "talk show", sometimes on two of the three channels at once.

NinjaMarion

@Palladium: Speaking of those penis pills, i started seeing enzyte commercials again even though they just got raided by the feds. Why is the fcc protecting people from boobies and swearing on tv but not protecting stupid people from scams?

snakepliskin

Awww. They got taken off the air for mis-phrasing a minuscule number.

So, that must mean those penis extension pills on TV really do work? Because they've been on the air for years now!

I mean, cmon'. There's only 50 games, out of thousands, that don't work at this point.

Palladium

@Rabidsquirrel: @Morberis: Ah, I see. Poor Europe. -_-

Saint Anima

60 gig doesn't play all of the PS2 games!? I've been lied to!

Saint Anima

@Aprocalypse: Clarification: Never got the hardware emulation 60GB. We got one with a 60GB HDD, though.

Aprocalypse

@Morberis:

I would agree with that.

eqhara

@Solidius: It's like saying, "our cleaner kills 99.9% of germs"

Not all discs will play on the 60GB PS3, but more than enough non obscure titles should work. At least more will play "better" than on an Emotion Emulator 80GB

AntiZERØ

@Solidius: Guess what umpteenth thing never came to PAL territories. PAL never got the 60GB.

Aprocalypse

@eqhara:

I think thats more a point in favor of the UK than it is the US...

Morberis

@Solidius:

Nope, no emotion chip for Europe.

Morberis

@Solidius: In the US.. yes.. in Europe... no no emotion chip was in the 60.

Rabidsquirrel

Is that all it takes to get pulled in the UK? That commercial's fabrication is *nothing* compared to some of the shit that can fly on American TV.

eqhara

See, adding "most" in there would have cost millions in extra advertising money! So they took a chance. Whoops!

ShirtGuyDom

Wait...

Doesn't the 60GB play *all* the PS2 games because it uses the Emotion chip?

Isn't the 80GB the one that can only play *some* PS2 games?

Or is it different in Europe?

Solidius

At this I'm totally confused about the PS3 skus. I was contemplating picking one up with my tax rebate check but backwards compatablility is something I want. I still have a backlog of Ps2 games and some old favorites. If I walk into a store today what version of the PS3 do I need to buy to play PS2 games? I'm in America.

Pornosaur

@ffmusicdj: Probably happened because someone already sued or something.

I don't really think PS3 needs a full backwards compatibility, and the decision to pull the ad out has more on it than just "misleading information".

But I can live with that. Because it really is misleading, and I personally think ALL misleading information should be wiped out.

Only wish they would do that to some other rather obvious stuff.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@AntiZERØ: but this the PS2 we are talking about, half of most libraries probably are at least made of obscure titles, and people who read PC World are probably not your casual gamer which increases the likelihood of obscure titles in their collections

ban_hammer

@Palladium: I mean, cmon'. There's only 50 games, out of thousands, that don't work at this point.

I've personally not found any that don't work. However, all of the PS2 R&C games I've tried are pretty close to unplayable. They stutter on the PAL 60GB PS3. While not totally unplayable, it was enough to make me plug the PS2 back in for those games.

Doshu

You don't understand, some idiot can sue.

ffmusicdj

@Pornosaur:

The 80GB, which will be re-released in June with Metal Gear Solid 4. You might be able to find the current 80Gb bundle that includes Motorstorm. No DualShock 3 in that one though

It's not that confusing really. There's only 2 SKU's, a 40GB with no PS2 BC, and an 80GB with PS2 BC. Sort of like a Core and Premium model

LittleBigPlaneteer

@Pornosaur: 80. Not full backwards.. but i think its fairly high up there.

Rabidsquirrel

PAL 60GB = NTSC 80GB

It plays about 80% of games with no issues. The 20/60GB NTSC models played 99% of PS2 games.

The 80GB model's BC is for all intents and purposes, a PS2. You can play most anything, though some games like the R&C titles won't play.

It's certainly more acceptable, especially when compared to the 360's 30% BC support, most of which have graphical issues or framerate problems (Halo1 is unplayable).

Barnolde

What are the odds?

thequiffisdead

You can't buy 60gb PS3's in the UK anymore anyway, that's unless it's second hand.

thequiffisdead

You can't even get the 60GB flavour here anymore.

midnightz

It's actually a typo, their original copy for the ad was "plays your PS2 games [nowhere near] as well [as your PS2 did]"

phicaluk

There are still new 60GB PS3 on sale in the UK?

The original 60GB in Europe was one of the first to have the Emotion Engine yanked, thus Europe never has had the wonder of a fully BC compatible PS3.

Second that model is no longer manufactured by Sony for this region. The only SKU manufactured for Europe is the BC-less 40GB model.

I haven't seen new 60GBs for a good number of months. If PC World do have them they would be in limited quantities.

Incidentally there's no distinction made on the company's online store. Therefore I'll assume they only have 40GB models like everyone else selling new PS3s in Europe.

Repsode

quite strange seeing as the 60GB model was discontinued a few months ago.

nolifedopestar (PSN: noliferuin)

Well that's the problem with sripping away at your console, it under delivers to fans and it confuses not only consumers but retailers aswell.

Llost

The only place to get 60GB PS3s in the UK is eBay at crazily inflated prices. I remember seeing this advert once, I think it was around August 2007. So well done to whoever pulled it for being SO on the ball. Idiots.

Ungruntled

*hugs 20GB*

30 hours at Walmart, and I probably could have picked you up the week after for less than 10 minutes wait.

Scuba Steve

I gots my 60gb from some kid trying to sell it at my friends gamestop. I offered him 200$ and never looked back. Besides being greasy and smelling like coconut oil, a little rubbing alcohol took care of that, it works like a charm. I play more ps2 games on it than ps3 ones.

Metropolis

@Metropolis: "Greasy and smelling like coconut oil," yup, sounds like every other Gamestop I've been in. I blame the customers. Mind you they threw me out when I tried to clean the place with rubbing alcohol.

Gidim

@Barnolde: In fact, the EU 60 GB will play between 70-75% of games. 'Play' in this case apparently means that you can get through the title screen and into the interactive part. There is no guarantee that the game will play cutscenes, display subtitles and in game text properly, load every area on the disk, save or load games, or behave correctly when it is in play. The only way you can play some RPGs for example is by skipping through the cutscenes as soon as they pop up, because otherwise the game will hang and you have to restart.

About 30% was the figure of games which play 100% correctly. On the US 60GB (the SKU that never made it to the EU) that figure was 98% at launch, and they were able to patch problem games to over 99%. They *could* patch up the EU machine, but apparently they have discontinued patching completely, and are now phasing out that SKU entirely.

Lov3

@Lov3: But since this is how sony are making the PS3 from now on I should Imagen like the PSP the emulation firmware will be updated so often.

Ryuujin1024