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A Politician Who Actually Games
Posted by Owen Good at 3:00 AM on June 8, 2008
Meet Jeanne Stevens, the Republican nominee for Connecticut's House of Representatives (101st District). She will not allow Grand Theft Auto IV in her home. That's OK, she's also a level 70 Orc hunter in World of Warcraft. As for GTA IV, "If you'd like to play it in your home, go for it."
GamePolitics brought Stevens to our attention, and MMO site Wandering Goblin followed up with a detailed interview that reasonably depicts Stevens as neither a fringe/novelty candidate nor, as a parent, permissive to the point of self-caricature when it comes to games.
She's a mum and a laywer. That's enough motive and opportunity for making an informed decision on her own kids' entertainment choices. And far be it from me to lecture Republicans on their values (but I will anyway) she adopts what is truly a conservative principle regarding video games in the home: "You get to be the legislator, you make the laws of your home. Don't abdicate that responsibility to the government".
As for her gaming habits, she says her father introduced her to WoW three years ago. She has three characters and recites their stats like she would her children's scout badges. Stevens can be found on the Alexstrasza server but eschews PvP as she's usually gaming with her kids and helping their characters.
Says candidate Stevens:
WoW is the sum total of my experience. We'll get Lich King when it comes out. The boys play Xbox live, Halo and Call of Duty series, though Guitar Hero is getting quite a bit of play now. As a parent, I will not allow GTA in my home - that is my choice. If you'd like to play it in your home, go for it.
If she wins in November, she'd join Sen. Ray Tenorio, level 70 Dwarf Priest of the Guam legislature, as known MMO-gaming lawmakers. However, Stevens' opponent, Deb Heinrich, is a two-term incumbent and vice chair of the General Assembly's appropriations committee (which is joint House and Senate). Not sure how things shake out in Connecticut, but typically that's a tough resume to beat. Stevens herself is an attorney and was a prosecutor for the Manhattan District Attorney. Thus ends my handicapping of the race.
The WoW-Playing Candidate [Wandering Goblin]

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Kohath
Posted 3:29 AM 8/6/08
A state politician? There are about ten thousand state representatives and challengers.
Congrats to CT, I guess, but I doubt many of the Kotaku readers live in the 101st state legislative district in CT. (Wow, 101 districts seems like too many for such a tiny state.)
Just based on the numbers, there are probably a lot more gaming state reps across the country. I hope there's not a story on each one of them.
Kohath
chip5541
Posted 3:28 AM 8/6/08
Martin Luther King was a Republican.
chip5541
y2julio
Posted 3:27 AM 8/6/08
She's awesome. She gets my vote. :)
y2julio
wild homes
Posted 3:27 AM 8/6/08
It's awesome that she plays WOW, and her take on gaming and self-legislation is pretty wise, but it shows how far we have to go as gamers. As much as I'd enjoy meeting this lady, maybe to shake her hand and congratulate her on being a good, rational image for gamers to present to the non-gaming social convention, I'd still vote for or against her based on her politics. I look forward to a day where we don't need to highlight politicians who game, but can instead be happy that we have excellent, fair politicians-- who we admire as good, honorable legislators FIRST-- who happen to enjoy playing games. Imagine that one day we'll have elections-- maybe in your city or state-- where two people, both of whom game, and have reasonable ideas about protecting the rights of gamers, are running against each other for office. And you get to choose the best candidate based on experience, and his or her stand on the issues-- and not just because you've both got nerfed pallys in common. That's going to be awesome, and I can't wait-- even if we've still got a few years until we get there.
wild homes
GamerBunny
Posted 3:25 AM 8/6/08
Wow, and she's Republican? I'm pretty impressed.
GamerBunny
FeatherNET
Posted 3:22 AM 8/6/08
@little_dragon: But it's political news!
But I do however push to keep an open mind about either sides, especially when there's absolutely no reasons to get at each others necks.
FeatherNET
Mechapixel
Posted 3:20 AM 8/6/08
Move over Hitler, I have a new favorite politician
Mechapixel
Squirrelbot3000
Posted 3:19 AM 8/6/08
Nice to see a politician (to-be?) doing their homework on the issues of games.
Squirrelbot3000
Klopfer123
Posted 3:15 AM 8/6/08
@InsidiousTuna: It's much easier for the little gremlins to run around without control hassling child free people in restaurants and cinemas then blame other people/society for their fuckups. Lazy parents=bad parents.
Klopfer123
little_dragon
Posted 3:14 AM 8/6/08
@Minister of Fun:
don't
discuss
politics
on
gaming
news
sites
nothing good will ever come of it
little_dragon
Astrofox
Posted 3:13 AM 8/6/08
Excellent, it's true GTA is not for little kids.
Here in Australia I wish we had heavier policing of game restrictions. (As in more enforced)
Maybe then we would have a 18+ rating instead of the government cutting everything down to a more friendly 15+
Astrofox
geoffcbassett
Posted 3:12 AM 8/6/08
Anything we can do to help her campaign, even if we are out of state?
geoffcbassett
shendragon
Posted 3:12 AM 8/6/08
Finally, a parent who takes responsibility for knowing what their kids are playing.
I bet she plays Alliance though :(
shendragon
tozza
Posted 3:12 AM 8/6/08
And the democratic opponent already has their ad-campaign all worked out: "What do you to when the phone rings at 3 a.m. and Jeanne Stevens can't answer because she's on a quest?"
tozza
Minister of Fun
Posted 3:10 AM 8/6/08
the REPUBLICAN nominee.
She thinks games are are great... great. Now let's hear about her liking homosexuals, minorities, and civil rights, while disliking Bush and the Iraq war before we get all excited about her.
Minister of Fun
InsidiousTuna
Posted 3:06 AM 8/6/08
THat's the one conservative tenet I can agree with- parents, control your Goddamned kids.
InsidiousTuna
Thugmunk
Posted 3:50 AM 8/6/08
Woohoo for being in Connecticut!
Thugmunk
lithtin
Posted 3:50 AM 8/6/08
Who knew partisan politics is alive and well with Democrats?
lithtin
Monstercloud
Posted 3:49 AM 8/6/08
@otakuhouse:
Republicans are well known as orcs in MMOs, it's so they can prepare for WAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
Monstercloud
Dr.H
Posted 3:48 AM 8/6/08
I'm only a few towns away from Madison(101).
I guess WoW has effected a wide group of people.
She doesn't let her kids play GTA which is probably a good choice but Halo and CoD4 are both Mature games also so I guess this shows she only denies them games that are in the public view vs content..
Dr.H
otakuhouse
Posted 3:48 AM 8/6/08
I knew Republicans were Horde.
otakuhouse
Monstercloud
Posted 3:45 AM 8/6/08
Only reason she went Hunter was to feign death through political turmoil, nub.
At least it's better than Hilary... she just specced Moonkin and went OOPS (Out Of Pant Suits) by the 5th week.
Monstercloud
Sparx
Posted 3:44 AM 8/6/08
Thats one great nominee, I'd vote for her if only I lived in CT and she was a democrat.
Sparx
ZinkO: zetta fast
Posted 3:42 AM 8/6/08
@Kohath:
I think they're numbered nationally...
ZinkO: zetta fast
Cola82
Posted 3:40 AM 8/6/08
Sorry, her stances on Roe v. Wade and the war in Iraq are more important to me.
Cola82
archibaldleech
Posted 3:36 AM 8/6/08
Oh, I hate seeing the word "games" used as a verb. Can't we just say "plays games" PLEASE?
archibaldleech
G for GRENADE
Posted 3:34 AM 8/6/08
Oh, but a huntard? Really? Leave it to a politician to take the easy way out. *Sorry for double post =/
G for GRENADE
G for GRENADE
Posted 3:33 AM 8/6/08
@shendragon: Unless Alliance got Orcs, I'm pretty sure she's horde. Now the only question is what server? Maybe I could spam trade to get some legislation passed.
For the Horde!
G for GRENADE
JustThisGuy
Posted 4:09 AM 8/6/08
@little_dragon: Yeah, but it's actually topical this time. I personally wouldn't vote for a politician based on his/her gaming habits alone, too.
So: is there any chance to seriously get all politicians hooked on WoW? It would be absurdly awesome (more emphasis on the 'absurd', I think) if all political disputes were settled through the outcomes of PvP raids alone.
JustThisGuy
Gort23
Posted 4:03 AM 8/6/08
@Dr.H: Halo shouldn't be rated "mature". It's about as realistic as a comic book.
Rating systems are generally bogus because they use stupid rules that don't really test what is good for kids. "Saving Private Ryan" and "Saw II" got the same rating. Guess which one I'd encourage a 15 year old to watch?
Gort23
wild homes
Posted 3:58 AM 8/6/08
@Dr.H: That's a completely ridiculous conclusion. Have you met her? Is it not possible she finds the CRIMINAL behavior in GTAIV to be a bit more worrisome than the military violence in COD4 and the scifi violence in HALO3? Or that maybe she's taken the time to check the game out and decided GTAIV is a bit much for her kids? She doesn't sound out of touch, in fact she's AWARE OF WHAT HER KIDS ARE PLAYING. How many parents can even say that? She's not calling out GTAIV-- she even says, if you want to play it in YOUR home, go ahead. Maybe you should accept that there's hardly enough information there to draw conclusions about her behavior.
wild homes
Zanibas
Posted 3:57 AM 8/6/08
Ignore the lvl 1 Trolls around this place, they can't cast fireball for crap without flaming themselves =P.
But on topic, it's good to see that there are people of many varieties in this world, representing different causes, and see what we see as well!
Now, I want to see those 2 fight in battle, and post the video on youtube!
Zanibas
goliathvv
Posted 3:53 AM 8/6/08
Good to see a reasonable politician nowadays...
goliathvv
ZinkO: zetta fast
Posted 4:42 AM 8/6/08
@GorbyGipper:
:goodposting: It's nice to see that some people can stand up against anti-conservative stereotypes.
also, orc? seriously?
ZinkO: zetta fast
wild homes
Posted 4:32 AM 8/6/08
@Dr.H: You didn't offend me. We're all good. I just thought you were drawing conclusions that weren't necessarily supported by the story. It happens.
wild homes
relic1980
Posted 4:31 AM 8/6/08
@Minister of Fun: So Republicans can be so easily shoehorned into a world where they ALL think and speak the same? 'Fraid not. I have been a Republican since I graduated HS in 1980. I think Reagan was one of our worst Presidents (behind our current one BTW), I believe that we all should be considered equal (gay or straight, religious or non-religious, no matter the race, no matter the gender, no matter the size or whatever), and that the Iraq war was clearly started under false pretenses (I wrote columns on my website well before the war started stating that belief).
There are conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans and moderates on both sides. There are also extremes on both sides of the political fence. Just because some pundits believe in a certain way does not make them right.
relic1980
GorbyGipper
Posted 4:29 AM 8/6/08
@Savior:
Thompson is a cruisader and a zealot. He's trying to push his beliefs onto others via law.
GorbyGipper
GorbyGipper
Posted 4:27 AM 8/6/08
@Minister of Fun:
"She thinks games are are great... great. Now let's hear about her liking homosexuals, minorities, and civil rights, while disliking Bush and the Iraq war before we get all excited about her."
Well, if she's a real conservative, it's probably something like:
Homosexuals: States' rights issue. If the people of the state want gay unions, let them have them. DON'T see also, California (for shitting on the will of the people).
I'm a conservative and if homosexuals want to get married, deal with divorse, get all the perks and all the negatives assoicated with being recognized as a couple in the eyes of THE STATE, so be it. Also, if they have a religion that wants to recognize their union in the eyes of GOD, so be it. Why should that bother me?
Minorities: Non issue. What's the problem with minorities? The failure of the great society? Cradle-to-graving the poor, killing motivation to get ahead? These aren't race issues so much as class issues (which do overlap too much with race in the US). It's more a problem with culture than it is policy. Everyone in this country has the same chance to elevate themselves.
Civil Rights: Too much here to give a blurb on, really. Though I'm not at all concerned with the state of civil rights in the US...I guess I don't like not having the right to NOT share the streets with repeat fellons....
Disliking Bush: Not sure why. No one seems to have negative personal opinions of him. His tax cuts were awesome (yeah, I thought so when I was making 22k a year pumping gas and going to school in an awful stuido across the street from the state's largest airport and helped to vote him in and I still think so now that we're well into the six figures 8 years later). I wouldn't imagine it's his moderate stance on immigration that would cause you to dislike him. Maybe you're associating the man with...
Iraq: I'm not against us being in Iraq, so shoot me :P I recognize the problems, but it seems it's been getting better. Stablizing the middle east is a lofty goal, it's a long term goal, one not made for modern America and the 24-hour news cycle. I can't say that I'd respect any sitting president who didn't 1) respond to 9/11 and 2) go after Saddam given the world intellignce AND Saddam's defiance against the UN despite a resolution authorizing force. He got dealt a bad hand on that account.
I'd be suprised by this reaction, but the Republicans haven't been their old small government/states' rights selves in a while. At least the supreme court is starting to exhibit that behavior.
GorbyGipper
Post_Mortem_Self_Defense
Posted 4:25 AM 8/6/08
Wow, how wonderfully surreal.
Imagine my surprise when I log on to Kotaku and find my neighbor on the front page. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone or something. Well, she's a really great lady, and I wish her the best of luck in the coming election!
Post_Mortem_Self_Defense
Atheist Jew
Posted 4:20 AM 8/6/08
What a refreshingly open-minded stance on games from a republican. Awesome.
Atheist Jew
Dr.H
Posted 4:19 AM 8/6/08
She is ahead of most parents in knowledge of games their children are playing and it's every parents choice to let their children play what they decide is right. I was just stating that it seems that parents know GTA is violent because of all of the news about it. Those other games are also violent even if they are a different type. Hence their all made for children over the age of 17.
Knowing people can be touchy I will give to you that I should have added the word "might" instead of "only". Sorry I offended you wild homes.
Dr.H
Savior
Posted 4:18 AM 8/6/08
well at least she's open minded about the whole gta thing, she won't let it in her house, but don't care about if others do.. See this is what Jack Thompson needs to look up to.
Savior
rudolphdude
Posted 4:16 AM 8/6/08
I hate politics, politicians, and people with passionate political views.
rudolphdude
Dr.H
Posted 5:03 AM 8/6/08
I bet we will see more gamers in important government roles in the future since the original gamers are getting to that age group now.
I'm not overly impressed that she is one of the millions who play one of the most would wide popular games ever. Now if she was hardcore into something like the Orange Box I'd have to give her more gamer respect for that.
I'd say her being a Lawyer and a Politician means she has her work cut out for her.. lots of stereotypes to overcome there.
Dr.H
JustThisGuy
Posted 4:58 AM 8/6/08
@ZinkO: zetta fast, @relic1980, @GorbyGipper: Yo guys, you can't blame him, can you? How long has it been since the majority of conservatives elected to public office have been--you know--conservatives, in the old Goldwater/Paleo-con style? All we've seen in the past two decades or so is an influx of neo-cons, whom I don't think any of you agree with, judging by your posts.
I think that one of the strangest aspects in American politics is that--somewhere along the line--the liberals turned into conservatives and the conservatives turned into liberals on a large number of important issues. Go fig.
JustThisGuy
ShaggE
Posted 4:56 AM 8/6/08
A parent that parents in this day and age? And she's a politician? And a gamer? I call shenanigans. Way too good to be true.
ShaggE
Dexor
Posted 4:51 AM 8/6/08
And thus, now every gamer in Connecticut of age to vote will be voting for her.
Way to handicap INDEED.
Dexor
camdentayler
Posted 5:17 AM 8/6/08
The question that's burning a hole in my brain is this: What are her character names in WoW and what server is she on?
camdentayler
Zosic
Posted 5:16 AM 8/6/08
I liked her up till republican. :|
Zosic
evslin
Posted 5:52 AM 8/6/08
@kidnicky: EVERYONE PLAYS VIDEO GAMES. It's not something that has "cult" appeal,it's something that rivals Hollywood for Christ's sake.
While that may be the case, not everybody acts like they understand how to govern themselves and their families when it comes to video games. Witness state governments trying to legislate the sale of M-rated games, Jack Thompson going on his crusade of epic idiotic proportions, etc.
evslin
Iron Man
Posted 5:50 AM 8/6/08
It must blow the minds of the mostly liberal leaning gamers to realize that a REAL conservative actually sides with them on issues involving gamers.
Conservatives ideals =/= Republican ideals.
Iron Man
kidnicky
Posted 5:47 AM 8/6/08
@archibaldleech:
Yes! Thank god! Saying someone "games" is the nerdiest,toolishest thing you can say. "I have to go to work today,but later tonight I'll probably game for a while." How stupid does that sound? Yet all you have to do is insert "play a" and it actually makes sense. When the hell did we all start talking like Yoda?
Along similar lines,what is this obsession "gamers" (another horrible word) have with being some kind of minority? EVERYONE PLAYS VIDEO GAMES. It's not something that has "cult" appeal,it's something that rivals Hollywood for Christ's sake. Your dad plays Golden Tee,your mom plays Bejewled. You aren't the one person in the world who owns an Xbox 360 and a copy of Halo,and also-gasp!-almost everyone who can afford a computer has a computer. You know when you're at the mall and they have T-shirts of Street Fighter and Mario? NEWSFLASH: They didn't print up 100 of those shirts in the hopes that you and your three buddies would happen to be in the store that day,they printed them because video games have mainstream appeal.
Almost everyone is a "gamer" who "games" with "gamers" "game game game".
kidnicky
JoRo1986
Posted 5:34 AM 8/6/08
This place is full of so many hypocrites. When Obama says something in the same vein of "parents need to be better parents" everyone worships the man and would probably even let him shat on their face. When someone shares that same view, you don't like what she has to say just because she's a republican? Some people are just ridiculous. Even if I don't agree with Obama's political ideology, I can at least recognize he makes a good point about parenting and games. Grow up people.
JoRo1986
Spoony Bard
Posted 5:26 AM 8/6/08
@Zosic: Oh come on. I'm glad to hear this - we often forget that Republicans are actually people and not just zombies. ;)
Spoony Bard
kidnicky
Posted 6:25 AM 8/6/08
@Mohican:
I wouldn't say I'm as passionate about it as you are,but yeah I do disagree with GTA. Of course,our country is very pro criminal at the moment,it's not just games but also movies,TV,rap,clothing styles,etc. Being a gang member is just the "in" thing.
And before everyone starts flaming the hell out of me,I'm not republican and I don't endorse banning games or anything. I don't choose to emulate criminals,but it's a free country so if you want to,go right ahead.
kidnicky
ShaggE
Posted 6:18 AM 8/6/08
@kidnicky: Wow, a bit of repressed anger there. Slang has been around for as long as language has. "Gamer", "gaming", and "game" are, for better or for worse, slang terms that some choose to use and some don't. Is it proper english? No. But there you have it.
And no, not everybody (plays) games. Personally, I can't imagine NOT playing them, but many people just don't like them. It's definitely not a niche market anymore, but it's not quite on the same pedestal of film and music yet either. I'd estimate it as a step or two above comic books.
ShaggE
Mohican
Posted 6:11 AM 8/6/08
@Zosic: read "see no evil" by Robert Baer.
Mohican
Lackshmana
Posted 6:10 AM 8/6/08
I am always amazed at how ironically prejudiced and closed minded people can be.
Her being a Republican automatically opens her to insults and back handed compliments, from people that claim to be fans of open mindedness.
The red vs blue mentality is so out of control it is scary.
In an article about games and the responsibilities of parents and the government, people are bringing up the Iraq war and abortion. Absolutely astounding.
Lackshmana
Mohican
Posted 6:09 AM 8/6/08
I will never be so dumb as to blame crimes directly on Grand Theft Auto, but I absolutely loathe what it represents. I hate it with a passion.
My brother is a policeman in the heavy metropolitan area where I live, and he shares the sentiment. Just two nights ago, he came first to the scene of a stabbing/robbery of an employee who was walking home from his night time restaurant job. People had called the police because they heard him crying for help. My brother was closest to the event and first on the scene. He shoved a cloth in the most gaping wound and tried to give him CPR, and at one point felt the ghost of a pulse, but it was too late for the 24 year old Asian waiter. I happened to be on the phone with him when he get the radio broadcast and headed to the scene.
I thoroughly detest that Grand Theft Auto provides people with any opportunity to create anything even slightly resembling this kind of crime in an entertainment setting. Whether or not you can reproduce this specific act, you are supporting the egos and the attitudes of the types of people who perpetrate these kind of horrible, senseless crimes. Or, in the very least, you are disrespecting and dishonoring what the effect of crime really is.
Mohican
Nexus6
Posted 7:04 AM 8/6/08
@Mohican: If it makes you feel any better I mostly play the vigilante missions in GTA4. The other stuff I leave to my cousin.
Nexus6
Herminator
Posted 7:00 AM 8/6/08
A recent interview revealed that Jens Stoltenberg, prime minister of Norway, is a gamer. He plays mostly strategy games (Civ, AoE2, etc).
The coolest part of it all? His gamer handle is Steklov, which is the official codename the KGB gave him. =D
If I have time, I can probably translate the article and submit it to Kotaku sometime. ^^
Herminator
Lamburger Helper
Posted 6:59 AM 8/6/08
Why are you people so pissed at George Bush? Seriously, this is a gaming blog. Last time I checked having high speed internet, a gaming console/PC, and a computer while also probably also having adequate shelter/food/water isn't that bad? Or is it that you want more? Seriously, I don't support the "Well, people in southern buckfuck are starving" but you people need to learn when to SHUT UP!
Lamburger Helper
bluerondo
Posted 6:56 AM 8/6/08
@Cola82: @Cola82: Well, her views on those issues shouldn't be important to you. As a state legislator, she'd have NO CONTROL over Roe v. Wade or the war in Iraq.
Failed civics class, did we?
bluerondo
Minister of Fun
Posted 7:27 AM 8/6/08
@relic1980: I said nothing about all Republicans. Republicans who believe that America should stand for actual freedom are worth their weight in gold, and I'm willing to support anyone who does. However, you must admit, as a centrist with a conservative lean, that there aren't many around these days.
@GorbyGipper: Thanks for proving my point.
When Kotaku talks about a politician, their politics are fair game. I don't know this woman. She might run as a Republican because she believes that government should stay out of the personal lives of the people it represents and balance its budget--the traditional tenants of conservatives. That's fine. I might support someone like that, but the fact remains that her love of videogames is only a minor point in her favor, and many, more important issues exist.
Her insistance on running as a Republican is not a good sign for other freedoms we hold dear. It's not absolutely damning either.
Also, I tend to vote for the Democratic party, but I do not consider myself a Democrat. I am a Liberal.
Minister of Fun
crackkills
Posted 7:18 AM 8/6/08
What I personally find amazing is there is a politician that doesn't want to control what you do in your own home...involving video at least.
crackkills
slyzxx786
Posted 7:50 AM 8/6/08
@Mohican: i don`t think i agree GTA is just a game crimes happen all the time even before gta if its not 1 game its another thats all. The matter of the fact is game is a game, real life is real life
slyzxx786
Final
Posted 7:44 AM 8/6/08
Me Not That Kind of Orc!
Final
wild homes
Posted 7:42 AM 8/6/08
@kidnicky: Much anger I sense in you. Need that, you do not.
But seriously, is it that surprising people would choose to identify themselves with their peers?
wild homes
JokesJokes
Posted 9:16 AM 8/6/08
@wild homes: Gee...I wasn't aware we were under attack.
JokesJokes
JokesJokes
Posted 9:14 AM 8/6/08
@Minister of Fun: What you mean we Kimosabe?
JokesJokes
onikuwagata
Posted 9:03 AM 8/6/08
@Minister of Fun:
The Republican party is a strange animal. Republicans are far more divided as a party than Democrats are; being a Republican representative is harder than being a Democratic one.
The reason for this, is that your average Republican can be split into two camps. The most publicized camp is the "moral majority" or Christian Evangelical camp. These people are generally from the Bible Belt, and believe that the United States should be a religious theocracy of Christ. They believe in big government, a government that meddles in the ethical choices of every citizen, and tows the Biblical line. They believe that Christianity should pervade every aspect of life, that science and business should bow before the supreme authority of the Word of God, and be shackled to prevent immorality. They rail against any sort of action that supports a non-Christian evangelical lifestyle. Occasionally to frequently this perspective does stray into racist or neoracist areas, as other cultures and people are "pagan".
The other half of the Republican party is the small-government or even Libertarian bent. These people oppose the government meddling in their personal affairs. They see government as a potential tyrant, preventing rights of pursuit of happiness and prosperity. They see it as grossly unfair for the government to take funds for purposes other than basic maintenance (military, administration). However, likewise, they view that the government meddling with censorship or personal rights is also overstepping the bounds. Hence groups like the "Log Cabin Republicans", out of the closet gay Republicans, exist.
This woman clearly falls into the latter camp. Even though the groups have many individual objections to the other's perspective, Republican candidates which win, often balance the interest of both groups.
onikuwagata
bluesquareapple
Posted 9:29 AM 8/6/08
What server is she on? I want to transfer one of my characters to camp her.
bluesquareapple
Pezdispenser
Posted 10:06 AM 8/6/08
Anyone who supports the Horde is fine by me. :)
Pezdispenser
bobtheduck
Posted 10:20 AM 8/6/08
Hahaha, 20% politics... not 15... D*oh...
bobtheduck
bobtheduck
Posted 10:20 AM 8/6/08
@rudolphdude: And you're on the INTERNET? The internet is 75% porn, 15% politics, and 5% geek fights... I suppose you at least have the other 80%, but still...
bobtheduck
wild homes
Posted 10:13 AM 8/6/08
@JokesJokes: Splitting hairs. Issues that concern gamers, then? Having a rational approach to the internal versus external control of game content debate? Picky, picky.
wild homes
Kovitlac
Posted 10:46 AM 8/6/08
@Minister of Fun: I have to disagree. Most Republicans are against that - in general, the party is against it.
Kovitlac
Tarage
Posted 10:38 AM 8/6/08
I am a republican, and I am a gamer, and I am jumping up and down in my chair at the prospect of another like me who actually understands!
What makes me sad is that most 'republicans' these days are turning away from the smaller government principle. It's depressing, but people like her give me hope.
Tarage
Kovitlac
Posted 10:34 AM 8/6/08
I object to her statement. I'm a girl and I play Halo probably more then most guys ;)
Kovitlac
kidnicky
Posted 11:03 AM 8/6/08
@slyzxx786:
Did you even read Mohican's post?
kidnicky
kidnicky
Posted 11:02 AM 8/6/08
@wild homes:
You couldn't say you were "a video game fan" who "plays video games" rather than a "gamer" who "games"? That's all I'm saying. When you watch Law & Order,do you become a TVer who likes to TV at night?
kidnicky
Placentasaurus
Posted 11:53 AM 8/6/08
WoW isn't a game, it's a job that you have to pay for, and has no reward. So, no she doesn't play games. I do like her stance on what games other people's kids should be allowed to play, though.
Placentasaurus
eddienoteddy
Posted 11:52 AM 8/6/08
thats right i live in Connecticut
eddienoteddy
atreides
Posted 12:34 PM 8/6/08
My vote goes to a night-elf.
atreides
GorbyGipper
Posted 1:22 PM 8/6/08
@JustThisGuy:
"liberals turned into conservatives and the conservatives turned into liberals on a large number of important issues. Go fig."
Yeah, that's been an interesting one. The whole Terry Schiavo fiasco was the kind of thing I associate with the left, but there was the republican controlled senate getting involved in something that had nothing to do with their jobs.
Then there's the whole gay marriage issue which seems like a simple state's rights issue, but the president gets involved and pushes for a constitutional amendment. There's no reason to get involved!
GorbyGipper
GorbyGipper
Posted 2:10 PM 8/6/08
href="#c6087496">Minister of Fun:
"Her insistance on running as a Republican is not a good sign for other freedoms we hold dear. It's not absolutely damning either."
Could the same not be said of democrats?
The left though...I've never associated them with freedom:
Taxes as welfare redistribution is their "thou shalt not kill." They'll openly go out there and sell socialist programs taking from the rich, giving to the poor, and penalizing capitalism in the process.
The socialist health programs that Clinton and Obama are (or were, in Clinton's case) promising to have enacted forcing people to buy insurance through the government instead of relying on competition, the market, and the private sector (which is much less prone to f everything up than our government).
Affirmative action awarding spots in instituions not based on achievement or potential, but on government determined quotas.
And it's not all just things that I dislike in theory. Socialist healthcare has never worked anywhere. Many would argue that the very programs that it would seem would benefit the lower class just lock them in place for generations. Affirmative action fails far more often than it works. The money we're placing into education isn't doing anything compared to that payed into private or religous schools.
Hell, that housing "crisis" that I'd call a correction...That was artificailly created by both the current white house and the congress in an effort to get people who clearly can't own homes into homes. There's an example of both the right and the left getting together to screw things up.
I'm not trying to build up the right, because I'm at odds with some of what they're doing, too. I'm just saying that the left is hardly a party that represents the freedom this country was founded on.
Oh, on one final note, I live in CT. The state is looking into ways to lower housing costs AGAIN! I had cheap living once. It looked and felt about as expensive as it cost...CHEAP! That's why it was cheap! That's what low income housing is. Our very left-leaning state is getting ready to screw up the real estate market all over again (or maybe they'll just redistribute my wealth, that tends to be cleaner).
Different experiences make for different views, though. I opted to drop my education for love. I got married (we've been together for 11 years, have a home and a kid on the way) while living in a crappy appartment doing temp work and manual labor. I wanted more. I worked. I worked hard. I now have everything I want including a kid on the way. As far as I'm concerned, I'm living the american dream. We didn't need the government to help us obtain it. We did it on our own, just my wife and I. I guess that's what really gets me about the modern democrat party, they never believed I could do it. They don't believe anyone can. They don't believe that one can improve one's situation without the government stepping in to help. I find that goes completely against what I feel this country is about.
I feel I've traveled WAY off-topic.
GorbyGipper
eelmonger
Posted 1:57 PM 8/6/08
While it's great that she supports gaming, I don't think I'd want anyone with a level 70 WoW character making important decisions about my life.
eelmonger
InsidiousTuna
Posted 3:07 PM 8/6/08
TO those saying we should be in Iraq- the issue is that, in today's post-Cold War society, America still mistakenly thinks it has to be the best, and be responsible for the welfare of others. GWB's strict unilateralism is evidence of this. America's powerful, no doubt. But we're not as important on the world stage as we used to be. If GWB had gone to our allies, as well as the UN, to ask for help eliminating the terrorists responsible for 9-11, and to say, "Look- Our intelligence says Hussein's Iraq may be tied to this organization, and we can all see that this nation needs help. Will you help us to do this?"- rather than blindly stumbling into a full-on assault- we'd love him. But he didn't. He declared a war on terror, and he decided to go to Iraq long before assembling a "coalition of the willing". That's the main reason we (or I, anyway) feel our placement in Iraq is misguided and tragic. Our government still thinks it's in the position to lead the world. It's not. While it has global military, diplomatic, and military reach, we as a nation have to accept that we're not meant to be the leader of the free world.
My two cents.
InsidiousTuna
battra92
Posted 3:05 PM 8/6/08
Wow, amazing how when the ObaMessiah says anything people faint at his words. but a Republican says a really smart and intelligent thing and people shit bricks over the R next to her name.
She sounds like a fine and intelligent woman in the mold of the Reagan Revolution (and it's roots of Goldwater, Coolidge etc.) I can't wait for the day when people taking care of themselves is just expected and government is kept out of it.
Carthago Delenda Est!
battra92
JokesJokes
Posted 3:03 PM 8/6/08
@wild homes: Just messin with ya.
JokesJokes
Darthvinder
Posted 3:01 PM 8/6/08
@GorbyGipper:
Apologies that I don't have enough time to formulate a complete response, but regarding your last paragraph, I feel that the American Dream is the ideal dream anymore.
Gah that is all, I may come back to it later and finish this.
Darthvinder
wild homes
Posted 4:41 PM 8/6/08
@kidnicky: Oh, I understood you. I was just teasing. But seriously, it's like trying to put the cat back in the bag. For better or for worse, 'to game' and 'gamer' have become utterly entrenched. And for the record? When I'm sitting down to watch some Law & Order, they only thing I'm calling myself is blissful. ZOMG Paul Sorvino.
@JokesJokes: Oh, I know, my friend. Just messin with you, too.
wild homes
Plsk1n
Posted 6:48 PM 8/6/08
She has an HORDE ORC Hunter.. and Sen. Ray Tenorio has a dworf priest! I am game for both.. you know these guys are not gullible.. I fell in for the nelf hunter myself.. always hated this hunter after I abandoned him.. 3 years and he is still 50.. I hate every limp of his body.
Plsk1n
mascot1063
Posted 6:39 PM 8/6/08
@Zosic: god your retarded
mascot1063
InsaneGenius
Posted 9:10 PM 8/6/08
She does not allow her children to play GTA? Good, the game's not for kids, finally someone notices.
But it's probably not due to the violence, but because there are strip clubs and other awesome things in the game, since she allows her kids to play Halo and CoD.
Please, USAmericans, tell me! Is it really that you are afraid of anything sex related but embrace blood and death. Or are that just the stereotypes. I bet it's the latter, because otherwise you'd be extinct by now.
InsaneGenius
GuyinGA
Posted 10:56 PM 8/6/08
From what is described about her, she's basically a libertarian Republican, not the religious conservative Republicans, who seem to think Jesus has an American flag lapel pin on his robe
GuyinGA
GorbyGipper
Posted 11:55 PM 8/6/08
@InsidiousTuna:
"TO those saying we should be in Iraq- the issue is that, in today's post-Cold War society, America still mistakenly thinks it has to be the best, and be responsible for the welfare of others."
We shouldn't have to be, but no other nations seem to have the backbone for this sort of thing. It's not a testosterone and balls situation. The UN should have taken a unified stance against Iraq and taken harsher action.
Letting Saddam skate by without following up threats AND making deals with the psychopath (Oil for Food scandal) isn't the way to contain the man or attempt to help his people.
Part of the problem is that it's easier to do nothing and point fingers than it is to try to do something.
Again, I agree. We shouldn't be the world police. No one else seems to want the job, though.
GorbyGipper
nyaz
Posted 12:43 AM 9/6/08
She's playing wow, should she be you know, not playing wow and making and reading laws... or something?
nyaz
FlapDangerous
Posted 3:19 AM 9/6/08
Bravo Jeanne Stevens
FlapDangerous
relic1980
Posted 11:50 AM 9/6/08
@Minister of Fun: As a refresher, here's your post;the REPUBLICAN nominee.
She thinks games are are great... great. Now let's hear about her liking homosexuals, minorities, and civil rights, while disliking Bush and the Iraq war before we get all excited about her.
Was there anything there that should not have led me to believe that "all Republicans" was what you meant? I can understand if you did not mean "all Republicans", and I apologize if you did not mean what I assumed you meant, but let's just say I have had it up to here with knee-jerk reactions, like to be a Republican is to automatically be lumped with televangelists, racists and big-business (thank goodness the term "Dixiecrat" is no longer in currency ^_^).
relic1980
jBusiness
Posted 12:24 AM 10/6/08
It's a real shame when a widely-recognized matter of opinion pushes all other topics so far off the track that you almost feel like your reading's interrupted when someone brings back the point. chip5541 brings an excellent stopping point to the table not ten posts in:
Martin Luther King was Republican.
People see black & white just fine but have trouble with all the gray. That's all I have on that.
Now, to try and tug this back on track myself, her stance on games like GTAIV demonstrate a feature growing rarer by the day; responsibility and an acceptance thereof.
And Black & White was a cool game.
jBusiness
Rbastid
Posted 2:21 AM 10/6/08
@tozza:
Being a gamer she only needs sleep from 5AM-6AM and she'll be good the other 23hr in a day.
Rbastid
sixtypercentgrey
Posted 11:01 PM 8/6/08
Hell yes. I live in CT.
sixtypercentgrey
BR4DL3I9H
Posted 3:18 AM 8/6/08
I can imagine a conversation with HER children being similar to that of a dinner table.....
"Mum can we play GTA4 just for a little bit"
"No!! Now clear this dungeon, return to the guild and then do the dishes"
I do think that at least playing some games should be mandatory for when politicians go against them.
BR4DL3I9H
SenileProfessorOak
Posted 3:20 AM 8/6/08
@Astrofox: I think you're missing the point of the article here, and that being the responsibility falls upon the parents to set up the rules and ensure their children don't play games that they deem innapropriate.
"You get to be the legislator, you make the laws of your home. Don't abdicate that responsibility to the government."
SenileProfessorOak
Janxer
Posted 11:21 PM 8/6/08
@shendragon:
70 Orc Hunter ;)
Janxer
jiffy
Posted 7:52 AM 11/6/08
Stupid question...
Why don't we get news postings about other bigots who happen to play video games?
jiffy
HartleyStamkos
Posted 3:06 AM 10/6/08
@shendragon:
Haha, They said that she plays an Orc Hunter. That's horde.
HartleyStamkos
tehflyingwombat
Posted 1:10 PM 9/6/08
@Minister of Fun:
"the REPUBLICAN nominee.
She thinks games are are great... great. Now let's hear about her liking homosexuals, minorities, and civil rights, while disliking Bush and the Iraq war before we get all excited about her."
If the person you vote for must dislike Bush and like every homosexual individual in the world, that's a little sad. I agree, homosexuals should be accepted as a part of our nation (the founding principals is freedom of decision), but I would never lend myself to 'liking homosexuals.' I have a couple of homosexual friends, but I don't need to agree with or like their worldview to be friends with them. Secondly, if you really need someone to dislike Bush to even consider voting for them, you're one of the mindless masses controlled by the silver tongues of the democratic party.
I am actually pretty non-partisan, so I don't promote a specific party, but I will say that your bit about Republicans 'accepting minorities' and ushering in civil rights is a bunch of bullocks. It is right to accept minorities and support civil rights movements, and I wouldn't say that Republicans as a whole have that down, but I will say that the democratic party is the worst about separating groups and pushing sexes and races over another. To Barrack Obama's credit, I've never heard him campaign on the fact that he's black, but have you heard some of the things that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have said about him? They say he's "Not a true black" and "If he's elected, he won't count as the first black president!" What the hell does it mean to be a true black? Do you have to behave a certain way or what? Jackson and Sharpton are forerunners of the democratic party, and they prefer to stereotype not only black people but the white man in little mental sects of their own. While I said that Obama is pretty good about leaving his race mostly out of the presidential race (no pun intended), I cannot say the same for Hilary. She has been campaigning on the fact that she's a woman since the race started. She screams from the pulpit that "we now see the final vestiges of sexism" and other outrageous political gambits that are further segregating the different sexes and races.
Anyway, I'm rambling, but I agree with you in principle: a candidate enjoying videogames is not near enough for me to be convinced to elect them into office.
tehflyingwombat
LastFace
Posted 9:25 AM 9/6/08
@G for GRENADE:
"Stevens can be found on the Alexstrasza server "
Also,
@tozza:
R O F L M F A O
Genius.
And not letting your kids play GTA, whilst letting them play CoD and Halo seems like the standard SEX IS WORSE THEN VIOLENCE position. When will people learn that it's preferable that your kid get laid rather then get beaten / beat someone?
LastFace
dipsetboy17
Posted 11:01 PM 8/6/08
still just another politican to me who hates gta 4 lol
dipsetboy17
RosalieChamois
Posted 5:05 AM 8/6/08
Why is everyone surprised she's a republican? Overwhelmingly the politicians that put legislation forth to censor games are.wait for it.Democrats. This is fact. Overwhelmingly! A true anti-big government conservative is always going to be against censorship of any kind.
RosalieChamois
loafing
Posted 3:27 AM 8/6/08
70 ORC Hunter.
loafing
BoringJob
Posted 3:14 AM 8/6/08
Do the other Republicans know she games? They kick you out for that!
BoringJob