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Interview: Pachter Says Console Sales Still OK, But Expect Holiday Price Drops
Posted by Leigh Alexander at 9:20 AM on June 14, 2008
Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter said that Nintendo's lead over its competitors in hardware sales is no cause for alarm for Sony and Microsoft, even though console sales in the recent month saw declines Xbox 360 and the Wii declining over the month prior. Even though console sales are still within expectations, the analyst said the Xbox 360 and PS3 will see at least a $AU 53.22 price reduction by the Holiday.
"I don't really think that Microsoft and Sony are doing badly - just doing badly in comparison to Nintendo", Pachter said. "It makes sense that PS3 and 360 are doing about the same... instead of saying 'what's wrong with Sony and Microsoft,' we should be looking at Nintendo and saying, 'how the hell do they keep doing this?'"
It's easy to peg the answers on the price discrepancies, but Pachter said that's not all there is to it, pointing to Nintendo's success in a mainstream market most gamers are less aware of. "There really are people who play games that don't read Kotaku - I know it's hard to believe", he said. "There are people out there who don't even know how to spell Kotaku, and don't even know that there are websites dedicated to games".
Calling the typical console-fanboy attitude "extremely myopic", Pachter added, "There are actually people out there who have sex. The people on Kotaku, other than their parents, they've never met anyone who's had sex".
Mainstream gamers are mad about Wii Fit, Pachter said, agreeing with fellow analyst Billy Pidgeon who predicted that the Wii would not balance its supply with demand until 2009. So no price drop for Wii anytime soon - but what about the others?
"You'll get a price cut", said Pachter. "I think if I were Sony, I would wait for the Fall, or for the Christmas lineup. There's no reason for them to cut it today [with MGS 4 out]".
Pachter thinks it's likely to see a $AU 53.22 reduction in the PS3's price. "They'll go $AU 106.43 if they can afford to", he said, possibly close to the release of LittleBigPlanet, taking a "family bundle" angle.
As for Microsoft, Pachter said they won't stand for having the 360 and PS3 on level pricing ground, and will probably implement their own price drop commensurately. "Madden was an event for Microsoft last year, so perhaps you'll get a 360 cut with Madden. But I think if I were Microsoft, I'd maybe cut it in front of Gears 2".
Pachter also anticipates possible future supply constraints for Wii, based on Nintendo's history of consistently underestimating demand - he also thinks their attach rate estimates for Wii Fit are a bit lower than they'll turn out to be.
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Sentientv2
Posted 10:18 AM 14/6/08
@dead_red_eyes: Finally... someone who understands me. I'm sick of hearing him too. He's not making revelations. I hope that Kotaku doesn't pay to listen to the airspace coming out of his windbag.
Sentientv2
ProdigalMoon
Posted 10:17 AM 14/6/08
Pachter, how could you?
ProdigalMoon
Leanid
Posted 10:12 AM 14/6/08
@Gitaroo_Dude: Link for relevance: [malstrom.50webs.com]
Leanid
Bleentastic sees bandwagon and jumps
Posted 10:10 AM 14/6/08
"I've never met someone who've I've had sex with"
Bleentastic sees bandwagon and jumps
SpishackCola
Posted 10:02 AM 14/6/08
I love Pachter! We need a week where he comes in and does analytical posts. I think that'd be nothing short of awesome.
SpishackCola
usfslacker
Posted 9:58 AM 14/6/08
@BoringJob:
Game sales on the Wii are phenomenal, it moves quite a bit of software every month. Third party sales are abysmal? Serves those asshats right; lets look at the data:
Okami: great game, NO ADS, despite having failed the first time on a console w/10x the userbase because of it.
Zack and Wiki: Great game, NO ADS
No More Heroes: Great game, no ADS
I can keep going with this for quite some time.
I'm sick of all this slanted software "data" comparing the Wii with the other two consoles. A million dollars says that if any of the above games would have launched on either, or even both of the other consoles with the exact same level of advertising they had on the Wii, they would have failed just as miserably. Original IPs sell terribly, unadvertised games sell AWFULLY. Why is it that even terrible games like Haze get TV commercials and the whole nine yards so long as they launch on the xbox/PS3 but any third party game on the Wii gets nothing no matter how amazing it is?
When you cite me a new IP third party game that comes out on the Wii that goes so far as to BUY AN ENTIRE CHANNEL for a week just to promote it *cough* Assassin's Creed *cough* then you can blame the Wii and its fanbase for poor third party sales. Till then, it's the result of generally awful games couple with the most abysmal attempts of advertising for any games ever.
Nintendo is not "fucking" anyone. They are putting out just as many hardcore games as they ever have, definitely more than any other single publisher this generation, and in record time. Third parties might be screwing the pooch on this one, but Nintendo itself (aside from the lack of hard drive thing) is doing a great job of catering to the core.
usfslacker
DARTH_TIGRIS
Posted 9:58 AM 14/6/08
I've started posting this around, and this seems like a good place too:
Around Madden makes sense to me because of Too Human's release date. Dyack has gone on record that the game is about to go gold some 2 months before release. It will also be available to reviewers much earlier than your average game. Why such a long period of time between going gold and release?
Because its release is being timed with a price cut. Booya! My pseudonym is Darth Tigris and you will remember me.
DARTH_TIGRIS
jp182
Posted 9:55 AM 14/6/08
@jp182: ftw!
jp182
jp182
Posted 9:55 AM 14/6/08
@baxterpunch: hehe yeah i think he's joking but alot of people on here won't get it.
Thankfully, since i'm 28 and only own a ps3; i'm not hardcore anymore either :-D
jp182
AnotherGamer
Posted 9:55 AM 14/6/08
Maybe I can use that $50 I save on buying a PS3 this holiday season towards a lady of the night if you get my drift? You know, those girls are often referred to as "working girl". What some might call a lady of easy virtue. The type of girl who might join you in a trollop for some sort of exchange. A female who engages in sexual intercourse for payment. A hooker.
Because kids, we all know you're not cool until you have SEX!
AnotherGamer
fantus77
Posted 9:54 AM 14/6/08
I wonder if he's gonna get banned now for talkin smack on Kotaku.
lol
fantus77
Barbara
Posted 9:54 AM 14/6/08
Pachter brings warmth and good tidings to NPD day.
Barbara
gozirah
Posted 9:53 AM 14/6/08
Ouch, looks like Pachter hit a nerve with some folks. More gaming will ease that solitude and suffering. Come now, it was a joke! But seriously, he thinks we are all dweebage.
But why hate on Pachter? He doesn't call up Kotaku and say, hey wann hear what I predict today. He could not care less if game sites left him alone.
gozirah
sascha23
Posted 9:53 AM 14/6/08
Oh man, Pachter's comments regarding Kotaku were pretty damn funny.
sascha23
baxterpunch
Posted 9:51 AM 14/6/08
Oh, and since Pachter is buddy buddy with Kotaku, I took the whole not having sex thing as light hearted ribbing.
Then I showed it to my wife.
She agrees with him.
baxterpunch
justhesh
Posted 9:49 AM 14/6/08
@CarlitosColon: OK, games. If Pachter was an NPC in City of Heroes, he'd be called Captain Obvious.
justhesh
OutsideTheBox
Posted 9:49 AM 14/6/08
The headline should be "Gaming sites still inexplicably quote analyst with track record worse than flipping a coin".
OutsideTheBox
LittleBigPlaneteer (Follow me!!)
Posted 9:48 AM 14/6/08
What I find amazing is Kotaku loves quoting this idiot, yet he insults the community here. Whether he was joking or not, this guy is not worth the bandwidth of this site in my opinion.
LittleBigPlaneteer (Follow me!!)
deathly
Posted 9:48 AM 14/6/08
LOL, Pach Attack!
He's in rare form!
deathly
baxterpunch
Posted 9:48 AM 14/6/08
@dead_red_eyes: Heeeeeeeey, I'm an analyst! Not a game industry analyst (telecommunications data analyst), but nevertheless. Ouch.
Of course, I always back up my analysis with mathemagics.
baxterpunch
SmilingPolitely
Posted 9:47 AM 14/6/08
@bobtheduck: You actually think that he...
*sigh*
SmilingPolitely
Brian Crecente
Posted 9:47 AM 14/6/08
@goldarsun: HAHAHAHA
Brian Crecente
BassForever
Posted 9:46 AM 14/6/08
I don't think he needed to take a pot shot at the Kotaku readers with the whole "we've never met anyone who's had sex" bit, but he is right that "there is more to it then we see here at Kotaku". Obviously the 360 and PS3 will price cut, but I think you'll see the price cut with something different, theres not point to bundle a 360 with Gears 2, anyone who wants Gears 2 played Gears 1 and owns a 360. My guess is in Japan you'll see the ToV bundle 360 at a 50$ off price, dunno if we'll see anything like it in NA (360 does well enough here). I can see PS3+LBP bundle at a cheap price this holiday season.
BassForever
mariogalaxyman
Posted 9:46 AM 14/6/08
@ForwardInReverse: @goldarsun:
Simultaneous orgy comments.
Brilliant.
mariogalaxyman
CarlitosColon
Posted 9:45 AM 14/6/08
I'm tired of reading story after story about Michael Pachter. It's not even the "no sex" thing; he just gets way too much exposure on these sites. I understand it's a business, but Jesus, enough already. Let's focus on the games people!
CarlitosColon
Billkwando
Posted 9:45 AM 14/6/08
I expected someone to say they made up the "sex" part after the jump.
No?
Anyway, I'm sure it's all in good fun.
It's not like we hear tales about how many analysts there are out there humpin' up a storm either.
I'm sure he gets pantsu thrown at him by all the laydeez. :)
Billkwando
fantus77
Posted 9:44 AM 14/6/08
Pachter clowned Kotaku!!! lolz
...gg Pachter
fantus77
enewtabie
Posted 9:43 AM 14/6/08
I will say MS around E3 and Sony will not do anything.
enewtabie
eclipsegryph
Posted 9:43 AM 14/6/08
@bobtheduck: Don't you think you're taking this a bit too personally, mate? Personally I thought it was hilarious. Inaccurate, to be sure, but that's what humor is at times. Sometimes you make fun of the world - sometimes the world makes fun of you. :)
eclipsegryph
Krondonian
Posted 9:43 AM 14/6/08
These comments have made me laugh more than any comedy I've seen recently. Props to ForwardInReverse, heyyywrestler and Abe_lincoln. Good work guys.
Seriously though, would this be applied to the UK too? I'm on the verge of picking up a 360, but a few quid off would be nice.
(I know it's only predictions, but still)...
Krondonian
goldarsun
Posted 9:43 AM 14/6/08
He makes at least one good point though--there are people out there that don't know that gaming sites even exist.
The girl at the checkout at Best Buy asked me how I knew about MGS4, since I had never owned a PS2.
goldarsun
kosbee
Posted 9:43 AM 14/6/08
What's this sex thing you speak of. Pics NAO or it's fake.
kosbee
Communist_Gamer
Posted 9:42 AM 14/6/08
I know there is a lot of admiration (at least by me) for people who laugh at themselves, and I like the intentions of those here, but I still think that perhaps Pachter is "winning" so to speak. "Moral high ground" blahblah but I still find his comments offensive. Hell I haven't even made any "you're American incest is normal jokes" yet. I say yet.
Communist_Gamer
justhesh
Posted 9:42 AM 14/6/08
Is he still considered an analyst, or has his title been rightfully changed to "guy that misuses the term 'prediction' to mean repeating what has been happening for about 20 years as if he came up with the idea" ? He might as well be quoting almanacs for a living.
Pachter is a waste of oxygen and a pay roll.
justhesh
BoringJob
Posted 9:41 AM 14/6/08
He couldn't have said that. Seriously? He must be operated on the "any publicity is good publicity" system.
If there is this huge untapped market, why is it that software sales for the Wii blow? There's a reason 3rd parties aren't taking the time for quality games.
I don't care how much Nintendo makes by selling the Wii at a profit. The real money is software. And these "casuals" aren't downloading all the VC titles and rushing out for the new Mario Kart.
It almost seems as if Nintendo, after rescuing itself from dire straights with the Wii's success seems committed to fucking it all up.
I really would like a reason to turn on my Wii. Unfortunately (for my Wii) COD4, Bioshock and Metal Gear provide me with much more fun, compelling experiences.
My girlfriend and 6 year old daughter don't even care about the Wii any more. For them, it's Carcassone, Puzzle Quest, PixelJunk Monsters and Super Puzzle Fighter HD.
BoringJob
Elliuotatar
Posted 9:41 AM 14/6/08
What's the point of dropping the price $50 at christmas? If anyone's waiting for a price drop, right now Wal*Mart is offering $100 gift cards with the purchase of the PS3. I don't know how much longer the sale's on for, but it's been running a couple weeks now I think. Anyone who was gonna buy it cause it's a bit cheaper would have taken advantage of that great deal like I did.
Elliuotatar
DefHamster
Posted 9:41 AM 14/6/08
Wat iz teh sex?
I agree with him, to an extent. As a reader of Kotaku, I'm not offended, I think he was just going for extremes in a joking manner. No biggie.
DefHamster
Snuffbox
Posted 9:40 AM 14/6/08
@Gitaroo_Dude:
Exactly- the fanboyism and most of the stuff that is discussed here is irrelevant in the real world.
It makes for some interesting reading though :)
Snuffbox
Michael McWhertor
Posted 9:39 AM 14/6/08
Geeks and otakus? "Fuck you, Nintendo!" Virgins? "*sigh* He's right..."
Michael McWhertor
bobtheduck
Posted 9:39 AM 14/6/08
"There are actually people out there who have sex. The people on Kotaku, other than their parents, they've never met anyone who's had sex."
Yeah, um, patcher... You're an effing asshole. Like, you just sealed your asshole status for all eternity to make your life's work predicting game business and then insulting all of us in one fell swoop...
I actually don't know many people my age, or even younger who HAVEN'T had sex... It's not like you're suddenly an adult once you have teh sex... That asshole comment just opens so many cans... There is more to life than money and even more than sex, and maybe the, ehem, virgins on kotaku know that... You know, the college students and parents and teens, men, women, boys, girls... The incredibly wide variety of people who come on here and who game, and hell... Who gamed long before the Wii came around... People who enjoy it as another legitimate form of entertainment that need not be waving arms around or balancing on a board while cartoony avatars imitate you.
Oh, and need I remind him that, ya know, insulting people for being virgins is more junior high and high school than enjoying a game that challenges people to think about social issues. So, yeah, pure asshole status... For the rest of eternity.
bobtheduck
Stormrider
Posted 9:39 AM 14/6/08
It's nice to see Pachter stooping to the childish grabs for publicity that we've come to expect from Jack Thompson and Fox News. He's putting himself in grand company there.
Stormrider
AnotherGamer
Posted 9:39 AM 14/6/08
HEY, who does this guy think he is? I've had sex plenty of times. Wait, what's that? It only counts if she's real person? Well then...I retract my statement. :(
AnotherGamer
swirldude
Posted 9:37 AM 14/6/08
"Calling the typical console-fanboy attitude "extremely myopic," Pachter added, "There are actually people out there who have sex. The people on Kotaku, other than their parents, they've never met anyone who's had sex."
I thought Pachter was our friend and was above such things as torment.
swirldude
ghostadv
Posted 9:37 AM 14/6/08
Hey, that sex thing is certainly not true. Least for me anyway. I know plenty of people who've had sex, including myself! I have the memories to prove it!
Boy those were awesome days :D
ghostadv
mr_dimsum
Posted 9:37 AM 14/6/08
Pachter's an admirable guy. Gotta love a guy who's bold enough to pop jokes like that and not care with the inevitable scrutiny from the "hardcore" crowd among game players.
mr_dimsum
Gitaroo_Dude
Posted 9:36 AM 14/6/08
Dude, who cares if "gaming professionals" read this blog? They're part of the small niche of us who actually care enhough to immerse ourselves in this lifestyle.
That doesn't change the fact that, desipte what you're fed, gaming didn't go mainstream until the Wii hit.
Gitaroo_Dude
Placentasaurus
Posted 9:36 AM 14/6/08
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about, I had sex with 38 women this morning. At the same time! He wishes he was me.
Placentasaurus
meltyman
Posted 9:35 AM 14/6/08
nice to see the denziens of kotaku have a sense of humor, Pachter's statement is so preposterous it has to be a joke, right ...
meltyman
Communist_Gamer
Posted 9:33 AM 14/6/08
@Gitaroo_Dude:
Tbh I'd think that gaming professionals would read Kotaku for the same reason as I started. I totally loved my Edge but monthly magazines are never enough, and some sorta quickfire gaming news site never was around, or so I thought. Then on my daily gamespot news infos, I spotted something about Kotaku and Sony... the famous controversy, and suddenly realised I pressed F5... new story!
Thats like saying the similarly done Gizmondo is read only by gadget nerds. Well, its not, cos I'm not much of a gadget freak and I like its simple no nonesense but up to date information.
Pachter will soon say he didn't mean to be interpreted like that, and your comments mr Gitaroo_Dude are not gonna be well received.
Communist_Gamer
LittleBigPlaneteer (Follow me!!)
Posted 9:33 AM 14/6/08
Captain obvious strikes again! Woohooo
LittleBigPlaneteer (Follow me!!)
Gitaroo_Dude
Posted 9:32 AM 14/6/08
I can't believe how many people still don't realize why the Wii is winning.
One words to these idiot analyts: Disruption.
It's a word everyone should learn, since it's going to lead to the death of the core gaming industry as we know it and reshape gaming in Nintendo's image.
Gitaroo_Dude
Abe_lincoln
Posted 9:32 AM 14/6/08
Bah. This guy knows nothing. My parents haven't had sex. That's incest.
Abe_lincoln
dead_red_eyes
Posted 9:30 AM 14/6/08
@dead_red_eyes:
*cavities
dead_red_eyes
goldarsun
Posted 9:30 AM 14/6/08
There's only one clear answer to this outrage:
Kotaku orgy on Pachter's front yard.
goldarsun
ForwardInReverse
Posted 9:30 AM 14/6/08
Lets have an orgy and send Pachter a photo.
ForwardInReverse
dead_red_eyes
Posted 9:30 AM 14/6/08
@Sentientv2:
Pachter says "If you don't brush your teeth, you might get cavaties".
Seriously, can't Pachter just go away? He's like all the other analysts out there that get paid to make guesses for a living, half of the time he's right ... other half he's not. Which is just about what you would expect from any analyst really. And with that, why do we need people like Pachter? Does he actually influence companies to some extent?
*I hate analysts*
dead_red_eyes
lilaliendog
Posted 9:29 AM 14/6/08
i can has sex now plz thx?!
lilaliendog
Gitaroo_Dude
Posted 9:29 AM 14/6/08
Pachter's got a point.
Most people that read Kotaku are so stuck in a virtual context and have no grasp of reality.
Fact is, Kotaku is a niche site that no one of importance would ever bother to read. Us geeks do, because we're geeks and it's our hobby.
The vast majority of successful people? Not so much.
Gitaroo_Dude
periodical
Posted 9:29 AM 14/6/08
Wait what? That's the most random tangent.
periodical
Sentientv2
Posted 9:28 AM 14/6/08
Pachter says: "Go brush your teeth!"
Sentientv2
heyyywrestler
Posted 9:28 AM 14/6/08
Hey now, I've had sex with at least fi...tw... ONE woman! And it was even consensual.
heyyywrestler
Herodito
Posted 9:27 AM 14/6/08
Did he actually say that?
And he is calling people extremely myopic?
What the hell?
Herodito
the-hypnotoad
Posted 9:27 AM 14/6/08
Pachter, prepare to reap the whirlwind! Do you hear that sound? It is the sound of a thousand angry fanboys, struggling and wheezing in unison to rise from their couches in fury!
Good points about the state of the console market, but I could have done without the gratuitous stone throwing at the 'core' community. Maybe tomorrow we'll come down and take a big steaming dump where you work; does that work for you?
the-hypnotoad
beezley
Posted 9:27 AM 14/6/08
bloody cheek.... i've had sex with at least one person... myself
beezley
Communist_Gamer
Posted 9:24 AM 14/6/08
I'm against mob mentality but... bring it on. :)
Communist_Gamer
goldwings
Posted 9:24 AM 14/6/08
This all makes sense now. I now know why you guys have a "thing" for Pachter.
goldwings
gigantor21
Posted 9:23 AM 14/6/08
"There are actually people out there who have sex. The people on Kotaku, other than their parents, they've never met anyone who's had sex."
Oh boy, here we go. XD
gigantor21
perrinbar
Posted 10:43 AM 14/6/08
Pachter, is a funny funny man. Also, I'm tired of people on the message boards slagging him for being bad at his job. He's not, his job is not this stuff, this is just what he does because he enjoys it. He said that sex thing to push your buttons and if you can't see that, he did an even better job than I thought.
perrinbar
usfslacker
Posted 10:43 AM 14/6/08
@BoringJob:
Like I said, each and every one of those games (minus Motorstorm, which only sold slightly above meh, mostly because there was nothing else to play at the time) practically bought entire channels for the sakes of advertising them. I saw Bioshock commercials CONSTANTLY, Resistance was the only even remotely decent launch game for the PS3, Gears of War was only beat by Halo 3 this gen for most ridiculous advertising ploys. Nintendo doesn't have said "iron grips" on third parties anymore, the only exception that is even speculated anymore is restricted use of Miis, which I know isn't hindering any projects for the core audience.
As to your rehash comment: Halo 2+3, GTA 2,3, Vice City, San Andreas, LCS, VCS, 4, MGS2,3,4, FFI-XIII, COD2-4, Guitar Hero 2, 80's, 3, Aerosmith, ETC...
The entire industry is doing the exact same thing. Each franchise having many games that play almost exactly the same but with a fresh coat of paint, a new story, or just some new levels. There is no problem with "rehashing" something people love and making more things that people love with the same formula. If rehashing was bad there would have been no further exploration of the FPS genre after Wolfenstein.
usfslacker
olinred
Posted 10:35 AM 14/6/08
Funniest Kotaku comment thread ever! For once its actually worth reading the whole thing. I just hope nobody tries to be funny but isnt.....analyst...sex...hee hee...
olinred
Velops
Posted 10:26 AM 14/6/08
@SpishackCola: I find him entertaining as well. You might not know this but Pachter is a gamer himself unlike some of the other industry analysts. He is a big Desktop Tower Defense geek with very high scores. Some might complain about his overexposure but he is the only industry analyst that is deeply involved with the industry.
Velops
jcsunshine
Posted 10:24 AM 14/6/08
@ProdigalMoon: He can't hear you, he's too busy nailing broads.
jcsunshine
BoringJob
Posted 10:24 AM 14/6/08
@usfslacker: You mean a third party get access to features Nintendo reserves for itself? Let's not forget that Nintendo's infamous iron grip on what 3rd parties are allowed to do.
Nintendo isn't putting out "hardcore titles". They put out rehash after rehash after rehash of the same several franchises with minor or no updating.
Basically, Nintendo is becoming EA.
Original IPs sell terrible? That must be why Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Resistance, Motorstorm, etc all failed miserably, yes?
Hell, Nintendo isn't even pushing the Wii. You know originally the Wiimote/chuk was just a new accessory for the GCN, right? That's why a lot of the games, including ones from Nintendo, were ported over with minimal change from their GCN roots.
BoringJob
fulldamage
Posted 11:27 AM 14/6/08
@Michael McWhertor: LMFAO this community is often hilarious, and this thread is pure gold.
fulldamage
freakout
Posted 11:06 AM 14/6/08
Haha. Fair enough, Pachter, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The financial analyst's social scene is not likely to be chock-full of sex, drugs and rock 'n roll either...
freakout
JokesJokes
Posted 11:00 AM 14/6/08
@Gitaroo_Dude: Luckily that sets it up for a re-disruption
JokesJokes
OldManGaming
Posted 10:52 AM 14/6/08
"There are actually people out there who have sex. The people on Kotaku, other than their parents, they've never met anyone who's had sex." LOLz. Pachter +1
OldManGaming
stranger
Posted 10:48 AM 14/6/08
@Michael Pachter: I think you need to do a little more statistical research there sir (ironic being that you are a professional analyst):
According to the ESA, the average age of a gamer in the US is 29. Probably a safe bet many Kotakuites aren't virgins, seeing as everyone I personally know who comments here is around my age or older (read: 29).
Outside of that? Teenagers and twentysomethings are usually pretty darn myopic, as they've lived pretty insular lives up until about the age of 25, seeing as most people rely on their families for financial security up until that point. So I'd say your critical analysis of the Kotaku community knocked that one out of the park. That puts you at about 50/50, which is better than your professional track record.
I am a little curious as to how you presume that all child gamers' sphere of contact with sexually active people in their lives would be limited to those who spawned them. I know I'm not the only former child-gamer-virgin to have older siblings and relatives. Not to mention friends who themselves weren't likely the result of immaculate conception. I'm also pretty sure that those in the field of education aren't all virgins, though times may have changed. Do parents usually keep their children locked in a box until their deflowering these days?
God knows I could have avoided a lot of awkward years had I been locked in my room with only my Sega Genesis until the age of 16. Though who among us, gamer or not, isn't that true of?
Savvy call on the predicted console price drop this fall, though. You might want to flash this little bit of data past your Wedbush Morgan cronies while you're at it:
Tomorrow, very early in the morning, the sun is probably going to rise, thus illuminating our corner of the Earth for about 15 hours, give or take. Most analysts will refer to this phenomenon as sunrise but if you hurry, you might be able to coin a different name for it...
Finally, how do you go about getting paid such a ridiculous sum of money to state the obvious, infer the ludicrous, and be wrong more than half of the time?
I think I might be overqualified.
stranger
Insert_Witty_Comment
Posted 12:05 PM 14/6/08
Hey, Pachter's right. Hell, I still close my eyes when I'm in the shower, much less get naked with a girl. However, I can't really explain why I've got two kids......Weird. Anyways, I suggest we all grow bitching goatees like X-Pach so we can gets lots o' da beautiful womens. Lord knows nothing makes the panties drop like analysts.
Insert_Witty_Comment
FanDam
Posted 12:00 PM 14/6/08
pur = our
What's that they say about blindness? :(
FanDam
FanDam
Posted 12:00 PM 14/6/08
Oh, Pachter. Your acerbic wit is only matched with your debilitating knack for knowing the truth about pur weaknesses.
FanDam
fearing
Posted 12:00 PM 14/6/08
Haven't met anyone who's had sex? Someone needs to explain that one to my son.
fearing
kidnicky
Posted 11:57 AM 14/6/08
The real world is a lot different then online. When I tell real people I have a Wii,they say,"You do? Awesome! Do you have Mario Kart?" Even actual women (people sort of like us,but without a weiner)say that. When I tell online people I have a Wii,they say,"Lulz kiddie noob headshot !!!!11"
kidnicky
bobtheduck
Posted 11:37 AM 14/6/08
@SmilingPolitely: I actually think he what? Made a low brow joke at the expense of the people he's supposed to be interacting with? Engaged in a bit of fanboy tactics himself and thereby lowered his viability? Said something really stupid that was sure to piss a lot of people off for no good reason? Yes. Yes, I think he.
bobtheduck
fronsacqc
Posted 11:30 AM 14/6/08
You guys obviously never even bothered watching Pachter on GameTrailers. The guy is light hearted most of the time and says stuff like this with a tongue in cheek. Stop being so full of yourselves. It's just a guy teasing you. He's probably laughing his ass off. I know I am.
fronsacqc
jsf49
Posted 12:39 PM 14/6/08
"Calling the typical console-fanboy attitude 'extremely myopic,' Pachter added, 'There are actually people out there who have sex. The people on Kotaku, other than their parents, they've never met anyone who's had sex.'"
By that, is he talking about the Kotaku staff or the readers or both? Anyway, it's pretty apparent that Pachter reads Kotaku and wears glasses, so maybe his conclusion is also a self-reference.
jsf49
dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased
Posted 12:37 PM 14/6/08
Since when don't I have sex?
Since when don't the people I know have sex?
Is he saying that if you have a Wii and don't read Kotaku, you're more prone to sex? Man, there's going to be a lot of upset parents out there.
dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased
Sentientv2
Posted 12:30 PM 14/6/08
Someone call Uwe Boll. I think we found him a meat bag to light up. Why would someone make those comments in the first place unless there's some insecurity there? Does he believe that we might threaten his job because we're able to see the obvious as well?
I was telling my fiance that I bet he has a bunch of video game word magnets on his fridge, gets shitfaced, jumbles them around, passes out, wakes up the next morning, and begs someone to listen to the genius observations he came up with.
I've given you enough cheap shots Pachter. Have fun with your, as someone stated earlier, Captain Obvious job. You're so damn intelligent.
Sentientv2
mrplow8
Posted 12:26 PM 14/6/08
What a jerk. I've met someone who's had sex before.
mrplow8
cringer8
Posted 12:11 PM 14/6/08
@bobtheduck: "Said something really stupid that was sure to piss a lot of people off for no good reason?"
It shouldn't piss you off...unless you're over 30 and it's true. Then I could see it pushing your buttons.
Anyone secure with themselves would just laugh it off...like everyone else is. We don't have to "prove" anything to anyone.
And I like Patcher. The game industry needs people like him; a professional who actually pays attention to the industry and cares.
cringer8
thegreatseal
Posted 12:10 PM 14/6/08
I've met lots of people who've had sex!
thegreatseal
Neo-Senku
Posted 12:58 PM 14/6/08
He should have just stuck to analyzing, cause really I'd think that a majority of people on kotaku know that a lot of people who play games don't read kotaku and have had sex
Neo-Senku
justhesh
Posted 12:57 PM 14/6/08
@cringer8: "The game industry needs people like him; a professional who actually pays attention to the industry and cares."
The game industry needs people that get paid to tell us things we already know, or could have easily gleaned ourselves from decades of repeated history? One would hope that any industry would have the sense to shy away from such frivolous spending as giving these postdiction makers employment.
justhesh
karateka
Posted 1:35 PM 14/6/08
Is pachter pulling a nintendo...calling kotaku readers dorks that don't know what sex is. Well we are just regular people with a job who enjoys gaming. And a lot of us have girlfriends, wife, and kids. Just when he's beginning to get some credibility he went and said a stupid thing.
karateka
Kenny
Posted 1:21 PM 14/6/08
Did he just diss the shit out of all us?
I believe the part where he said that most Wii owners don't even know there's websites dedicated to games.
Kenny
The Queen of Everything
Posted 2:11 PM 14/6/08
I know I'm near-sighted, but my glasses are damn cute. Also, I totally believe in sex before marriage, and there is a diamond ring on this finger. Also, we both have PS3s. I think we sexin'.
The Queen of Everything
bob7317496
Posted 2:01 PM 14/6/08
I'm having sex right now.
bob7317496
KaliKOtt
Posted 1:56 PM 14/6/08
Uh oh. About the same thing he said last year, just with an added Kotaku dissin'
Whats up my man?
KaliKOtt
Reneg
Posted 3:09 PM 14/6/08
Does meeting sexual predators online count?
Reneg
eastx
Posted 3:54 PM 14/6/08
Couldn't we have an official rebuttal to them calling us sexless? I'm sure many Kotaku users are uber-nerds, but there's also lots of cool gamers here.
eastx
demonknightinuyasha
Posted 4:36 PM 14/6/08
i totally agree...when i was still a foaming at the mouth fanboy retard i never got laid, got over it and the vagina was a flowin'....so to speak >.> .... ok so it's not really flowin' so much as slowly trickling but in all fairness 8 times out of 10 it's more hassle than it's worth :p
demonknightinuyasha
ara
Posted 4:15 PM 14/6/08
Christ, some of you actually thought you needed to defend yourself because of what he said? o_O Man, Patcher has some influence.
ara
fuchikoma
Posted 5:17 PM 14/6/08
Like others I have to say did he just say that? I don't think Leigh would slip it in in his name... He could be joking but that's pretty bare fisted.
Nice junior high rip. Now he's gone from Ms. Cleo to Laurent Fischer, carelessly slamming his audience. He's a good analyst, but remember, he's guessing too. His difference is he gets paid for it, and has a bunch of data at his fingertips. What regular reader here doesn't keep their fingers on the pulse of gaming too? We're the kind of geeks to eagerly await NPD data and then review the press releases from each respective company! So why is he special anyway?
Even before that little "die in a fire" from him, I don't see why his every move is noteworthy. Is it because he won an analyst-off once? I mean he's not some revered shaman who sees the future or anything.
fuchikoma
juliopalio
Posted 5:58 PM 14/6/08
@bob7317496: pics or GTFO
juliopalio
JudgeNutmeg
Posted 6:44 PM 14/6/08
Wait... what is this man saying? My parents have had sex? Ewww!
JudgeNutmeg
ali_g_84uk
Posted 6:41 PM 14/6/08
"There are actually people out there who have sex. The people on Kotaku, other than their parents, they've never met anyone who's had sex."
He does come across a bit of a dick there...hes basically saying all nerds have never/will never have sex. Thats obviously not the case and i can vouch for that.
ali_g_84uk
Squanderdalfast
Posted 6:35 PM 14/6/08
Leigh Alexander has never had sex. You heard it hear first.
Squanderdalfast
justhesh
Posted 6:28 PM 14/6/08
@eastx: The prequel book says we're asexual, but the codex says we're non gender specific.
justhesh
Ehetyz
Posted 7:19 PM 14/6/08
I love that guy.
Ehetyz
Jonathan in Kichijoji
Posted 8:12 PM 14/6/08
@kidnicky: LOL I guess that's why I like my Wii. I spend too much time with 'real people' ^_^
Jonathan in Kichijoji
Gunloc
Posted 9:02 PM 14/6/08
This is a perfect clip for people who can't see this is a joke. Pachter is too funny!
[video.google.com]
Gunloc
Duoae
Posted 9:51 PM 14/6/08
Hehe, i like this guy's sense of humour. Well played Pachter, well played...
Though if you're wrong about the price drops, i'm gonna be angry... i want to buy one of the new, (cheaper), cooler and potentially non-red-ringing 360s at christmas.
Duoae
quen
Posted 9:43 PM 14/6/08
Awesome comment - go Pachter. :)
(And sure, his predictions seem reasonable this time too. Though I still kind of find it hard to believe that Nintendo won't need to cut Wii price even for next Christmas, I guess it's indeed possible...)
quen
Magnum1024k
Posted 10:33 PM 14/6/08
You know, I'd love to have the job Pachter has, I'm pretty fluent in the art of bullshit and to get paid for it, Frak Yeah!
Magnum1024k
EmeraldDragon
Posted 10:27 PM 14/6/08
I'm not sure if Sony can afford a price cut -- though that may have no real baring on whether they use one or not.
EmeraldDragon
Chilly Hollow
Posted 10:26 PM 14/6/08
Pach, you really are going to have to open your own mail for the next month or so. Don't want the secretary to pass out from all the orgy snaps us fanboys & girls will be sending you as proof, PROOF, that we too do have Sex.
Somewhere.
It may be in the bottom dresser drawer but I know it's here somewhere.
Chilly Hollow
skittlespsp
Posted 11:28 PM 14/6/08
Sorry, I just got done having sex...now what was this guy going on about?
skittlespsp
bob7317496
Posted 1:09 AM 15/6/08
@juliopalio: Oh, it's done now. Sorry!
bob7317496
DarrenIndeed
Posted 12:44 AM 15/6/08
@meltyman:
BEWARE! The Melty-man cometh!
DarrenIndeed
DarkNight_DS
Posted 1:43 AM 15/6/08
Pachter pulled a funny and half the people on the site didn't get the joke. How sad....
DarkNight_DS
elpierce
Posted 2:45 AM 15/6/08
Shut up, Pachter! Just shut up!
I too have had sex!
So just shut your face!
*storms off*
elpierce
fuchikoma
Posted 2:34 AM 15/6/08
I get it and it's cool since I didn't care about what he said anyway other than making idle speculation for fun. I am pretty surprised though since it's kind of like going "Hey Kotaku, I hope you die slowly of cancer!" Well, what if it's a joke?
fuchikoma
Billkwando
Posted 4:06 AM 15/6/08
He should be careful
Kotakuites have a memory like a pach.....oh newvermind.
Billkwando
TeldurUK
Posted 10:42 AM 15/6/08
Wow..a little harsh isnt he? What did Kotaku commentators do to him? :P
I'll have you know Ive slept with 3..count them..3 different girls... and I'm a gaming geek..so there :P
TeldurUK
Gunloc
Posted 11:42 AM 15/6/08
@Gunloc: Fricking google video :( The clip is the Arnold meets Arnold one.
Gunloc
jBusiness
Posted 8:45 PM 15/6/08
Why don't those of us able and willing just send videos of us and our significant other...
never mind.
jBusiness
jamosthefifth
Posted 12:42 AM 16/6/08
"There are actually people out there who have sex: The people on Kotaku."
Yay for journalistic interpretation!
jamosthefifth
shimage
Posted 7:43 AM 16/6/08
that was awesome
shimage
TheToiletDuck
Posted 8:51 AM 16/6/08
I want to have Michael Pachter's baby.
TheToiletDuck
gencid
Posted 5:18 AM 17/6/08
Pachter, that comment was uncalled for. Now that we all know you fail at being funny, try to be right more than 50% of the time for once, will ya?
gencid