@Vidunder: I've played AOC to level 55 and my account with WoW has been active since day 1. I've also played CoH, FFXI, Lineage 2, Everquest, Everquest 2, LotRO, DDO, Eve, Archlord, DAoC, and probably a few others I'm forgetting. I'm certainly not new to the genre or it's problems, and I'm certainly not narrow minded about games.

thegreatpablo

@Eric: Server stability and finished content are two different issues that shouldn't be confused.

thegreatpablo

AoC is my first true MMO (D2/Hellgate don't count) and I have to say I'm loving it in spite of all the broken elements still present.

budash2

AoC was so much of a disappointment to me that I actually reactivated my WoW account :/

xblankx

@I Think We're Property:

[www.snopes.com]

concrete_d

Age of conan is a mouse pooking at a lion .... .... be carfull.

Viper

@HfAsianInvasion: It's like eating lettuce that someone forgot to wash all the way.

Work better for you?

Jayl3w

WoW doesn't have a 30GB install.

Sparden

I don't eat meat, so I don't know how spot on this analogy will be... but if AoC is a steak, then it's a plain steak, no condiments, spices, or anything else to add flavor. The Conan universe bores the hell out of me.

HfAsianInvasion

@lonkley:

My quest log was full by the time I picked up everything I could in the Eiglophian Mountains, and I was level 49. I've been going back and forth between the mountains and the Noble District and I reached 58 before I had to start doing repeatables - and that's only because the quests I had in the Eiglophians are red.

If you explore, you will find quests. If you want to stick to roads, then you can grind.

Koztah

Up to level 40, the game is pretty good. After level 40, it's a disaster. Nice job tricking the reviewers (aka pre-40 nubs) into thinking the entire game was as good from 1-40 as 40-80. I'd like to see these people re-review AoC at the end of this month. Those 8's and 9', will be 5's and 6's.

malio

@The_Foo: I possess none of these 'nostalgia glasses' that you speak of. I was in fact a huge voice among my friends for how much I hated WoW for the first few months of it's existence, after having played at the release.

I'm feeling perfectly comfortable saying that WoW was not even NEAR as incomplete as AoC is, even though it was indeed quite shoddy. What you have to take into account is something others have already stated: WoW raised the bar. Comparing the release of AoC to WoW itself doesn't matter, since WoW is what AoC has to live up to. It's established, it's made MMORPGs more then a small niche of players, and as such anything being released as a competitor needs hold themselves to a higher standard then WoW itself.

@Moridin: I thought the same thing, pretty to look at, not much soul.

Jayl3w

@Eric:
Right said. I hate it when mobs of snotty gamers give witty remarks without even playing the game or playing it too little to understand what's going on.
It's the usual bandwagon... expecially on kotaku. Article say something, commenters race to agree mimicking the article's tone.
Guess if this entry said "but yeah, AoC is definitely a good steak, finally a wind of change" everybody would be praising it.

Meh :P this world needs balance.

Vidunder

Its just too bad that AoC failed to deliver. It had one of the smoothest launch, then failed to let everyone know that it is Guild Wars with gibs. Funcom has to put lobbies for cities and zones since they knew 95%of the consumers will not be able to render 40 people at once. Yes I do know wtf I am talking about, 57 barb, content isn't bad; but the lobby system is fucking terrible. I won't be able to glitz my end phat lewtz like Qeynos and Ironforge and be the envy of my fellow gamers in my server.

PsycheE

@wild homes has particularly attractive fries today: I'm sorry, but the "liquid meat" scandal has forever tainted the Arby's franchise. For some things, there is no redemption.

I Think We're Property

You know, Funcom might want to make Siege battles actually work first, and allow stats on gear to work too, before saying this.

But whatever, the mass exodus of subscriptions should be telling enough.

Gitaroo_Dude

The key words in that quote are "could be." Is it? In its current state, no.

To me everything in Age of Conan feels really shallow, and nothing I do seems to give me that sense of accomplishment. Sure, it's pretty, but a box with nothing in it is still a box with nothing in it, despite all that pretty wrapping paper.

Fanboy disclaimer: My WoW account has been cancelled for months.

Moridin

I couldn't disagree more with the people that say AoC is less finished that WoW wass. WoW was horrible at launch, and remained so for months. Conan is already more playable now, and far easier to advance in than WoW is *right now*, nevermind in those early days.

I get the shakes just thinking about the looting bugs, the server issues, and the entire quest strings that I couldn't access to level because I had to run through some scary ass land of +20 enemies just to get to the other same-level quest hub.

AoC needs a lot of work, but I think some people are wearing their nostalgia glasses for WoW.

The_Foo

@thegreatpablo: Did you actually play WoW at release? The servers were down as much as they were up. Did you actually play Age of Conan to 80? Field of the Dead and Noble District in the 40's, Eiglophian Mountains until 60, Thunder River and Atzel's Approach till 70, and Kheshatta takes you to 80. Not to mention the repeatable quests in Noble District that scale with your level and give you almost half a level worth of XP in an hour or two.

Can you quest your way from 1-80 without ever killing some extra mobs? No. But the game is hardly "lacking content from about level 48 through 80"

Age of Conan has had an extremely smooth launch as far as MMO's go, and Funcom has been patching twice a week and ironing out all the problems with the game, as well as working on class balance and all that stuff. Not to mention adding new quest content and smoothing out the leveling process to minimize the grinding.

Eric

both games are great, and AOC is, IMO, roughly the same quality as wow when it launched, it just needs time to shine too. :)

QC8472

"We expect those to go out in the first four to six weeks - but we don't really know exactly how many copies have sold through to customers."

How can an mmo not know how many copies it has sold?

Definately lacks content, I just grinded 48-50 in the noble district with the ever so conveniently repeatable grind villas. Just started the hard to spell mountain zone, and so far there is like 4 quests. Looking at the map, there doesnt seem to be any questing zones after 60. Just dungeons. The game's engine could still use a lot work for framerate consistency as well.

Curious to see the pops as the first month is now ending. Predicting buddy keys will be available to make up for the loss players. Here's another tip, offering buddy keys that can't be used is a bad idea. Should of just not added them to the box, let alone 5 for those who bought the CE.

lonkley

WoW is more like rotten meat with maggots.
AoC is fresh and very tasty.

RTW

How about having a waiter on hand (AKA CUSTOMER PHONE SUPPORT) before you start talking smack you big douche.

DashTheHand

@I Think We're Property: Don't say that! I love a good roast beef sandwich! Now I'm never going to be able to eat it again!

wild homes has particularly attractive fries today

Or you could just stick to console games and play wow for a month when it comes out kind of thing.

i played wow for way to long, different characters servers pvp or blue but in the end all mmos are the same.

now what i am looking foward to is Diablo 3, come out and be free to play, like SC2 will be, and i can play get tired quit go back and not worry about putting my money into a pit of unhappiness... i'll try out wotlk, but for about a month, level 2 characters to 80 and call it quits then

Zaos

@Jusoon: I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you. Not once during my trek to 60 OR 70 in WoW did I have to stop and grind because there was a lack of content. Sure, there might have been a lack of end game content at release, but personally, I find that to be inexcusable in this day and age.

As I said, WoW raised the bar whether you like it or not.

thegreatpablo

I completley agree about WoW not having any meat on it's bones. WoW is just the shell of all other MMOs + Convenience.

Not saying that's a bad thing, seems that's what people want, but WoW just feels like a one night stand where something like EQ or FFXI would be marriage.

Oh... Now I see why people love WoW. HA!

Bboboo

AoC isn't really a "half finished game". Its rough and it has some level ranges where content is frikken sparce, but its as complete a game as WoW was when it launched, you remember, when Scholo was one of the "end game" instances. I like both games tbh, but after 4 years of WoW, AoC is a fine "new drug".

Jusoon

@dry-roasted-peanuts: There's a subtle difference between a game that is still being refined and polished and a game that flat out isn't done.

For instance, when WoW was released, it had problems, it had bugs, but I could level from 1-60 without a gap in content. AoC is lacking content from about level 48 through 80...it's a grind fest for that level range. Also, in the end, AoC really is in a shape that I would expect from a game that was in early beta.

Not to mention the fact that the market has changed drastically in the past few years. It was okay prior to WoW for a game to be released unfinished and buggy for the most part. But despite whatever gripes you might have with Blizzard and/or WoW, you have to admit that their products are generally fine tuned, polished, and feel very good overall. They opened the market in a way that no other game had in the past. MMOs are no longer a niche genre due to WoW and Blizzard set the bar so high that games really need to bring it all to the table or face the ridicule that games like AoC and VanGuard have faced.

thegreatpablo

More expensive?

BaseVilliN

@wild homes has particularly attractive fries today: Arby's.

I Think We're Property

@Tyheam: I don't want a large Frostmourne I want a GODDAMN LITRE OF AQUILONIA.

nick.soapdish

I'm sorry, but no matter how good his potential 'steak' is, I'm okay with not eating it off the sweaty back of a barbarian. Out of the two bigger-name MMOs coming out, WAR is hooking my interest more the AoC ever will.

I don't like the Conan universe, so so me.

Jayl3w

by meaty he means graphics wise because he definitely doesnt mean content wise. Fun game, but still a work in progress.

Detre

Hmm maybe if AoC wasn't still in beta gameplay wise he could say that.. however it is. I, along with my buds and many others have cancelled before giving them one months worth of fees.

As much as I don't want to go back to that burger and coke, I want to play a game where I'm only getting mad at my own lack of skill, not the game itself.

Abdar

@Tyheam: Sorry, had to.

+ Watch video

MOP88

Aren't all currently running MMOs, by their very nature, "unfinished"? Devs are still working on content/upgrades for AOC, WOW, Guild Wars and City of Heroes, so I don't see how you can call ever call any of them done.

That aside, yea, AOC still needs some polish and work here and there, but I'm enjoying it enough that I'm happy I bought it and will still keep dropping my $15 on it.

dry-roasted-peanuts

OK, so if WoW is McDonald's, and AoC is, what-- Burger King? Wendy's?-- then what is Hellgate London? Is there a restaurant that actually takes a dump in your food while it's on the table?

wild homes has particularly attractive fries today

I am not tipping the waiter. My subscription has been cancelled :)

dye

I'd yet to try Age of Conan >.>

Is there like a trial of sorts?

kumuasata

*sigh* Yeah, Age of Conan. It's like ordering a litre of cola.

Tyheam

Cheeky bastard!

Silverwolf

@turkish101: You beat me too it. I was going to say "WoW doesn't give me E. Coli."

thegreatpablo

[Insert undercooked steak joke here]

turkish101

No idea about how AoC plays, but I'll vouch for WoW being "fast food."

Then again, most MMOs are for a wide mass market, and IMO the WoW I played was a really ugly version of Lineage 2, which is one of the most successfull MMOs if not still the most successful of all time, so it's anything but a bad business choice!

fuchikoma

@PsycheE: Guild Wars with gibs...that is most dead-on description of AoC I've seen yet.

I'm not sure why there is so much WoW hate out there. It's fashionable, I suppose.

I see a lot of people mentioning WoW was at launch. You have to remember that WoW launched at a time when the next most successful North American MMO at the time had 500k players (EQ). Their server issues at launch were a product of a massive demand that couldn't keep up or even have reasonably expected.

Server issues aside, WoW's gameplay was much more polished at launch. There were no class overhauls (Necro) within one month of launch, for example. There's really no excuse for that other than a unfinished game. Even now, my wife and I spend most nights trying to beat our own AoE body count record - The same game we've been playing since Torgage.

Satyagraha

@concrete_d: If there's anything that the media has taught me, its that the truth doesn't matter.

I Think We're Property

Cutedge: Like how in buying the Collector's edition you were supose to get early access? Somebody forgot to tell us that early access was only open for like 8 hours and if you missed that window you're screwed.

OsoMan

The funny shit is, is that the US servers are down right now and nobody can play the game. In fact, there have been sooooo many patches, bugs and execuses, that you spend more time searching for why something is not working than actually playing the game. Its pretty brutal and Gaute has some donkey balls on him for trying to trash-talk WoW...

OsoMan

He says no one cares that drunken brawling isn't in the game? Are you kidding me? It'd at least be more to do and add some cool variety. I mean, I bought the Collector's Edition and it comes with a Drinking Cape that allows me to get free alcohol in the game. Well, the alcohol doesn't work. You can't use the item. It sucks. I really like AOC but I hate this trend of seeing stuff advertised on the box that isn't in the game.

Cutedge

That man is doing and saying what his nicely padded wallet is telling him to do. :D

static

AoC is an awesome game, a bit rough around the edges, but very good nonethless.

However, it didn't really give me that "OMG OMG I GOTTA LOG IN RIGHT NOW!!!!!" feeling other MMO's have.

And, after playing AoC, all the other MMO's just don't seem so fun anymore.

So here I am, wanting to play an MMO, and at the same time, not wanting to play an MMO.
I guess I'll wait for WAR, fresh meat is always good!

Coquiton

My account's canceled too, not because of his comments, but because AoC was mildly entertaining but that's it. WoW's still earning my money. If this douchetard wants to believe it's because I have no taste, he can. Whatever helps him sleep at night.

aphex242

The problem is that most of the people that say all those marvelous things about WOW, never actually played the game when it launched.
And yes i can talk about it, i started playing WOW 1 week after launch and kept playing for 3 years straight.

Wow was far from perfect at launch you can believe that. Still didn´t try AoC but from what i hear it really doesn't sound that bad compared to what WOW was. It actually looks like it was a smooth launch.

AoC doesn't need to be WOW and it actually doesn't want to by the looks of it. Different games, different options. If WOW was the only MMO this wold be a very dull world.

Krumm

The WoW I loved and played three years ago were the 40 man raids all trying to work together. Barking orders on exact placing, DPS control, hitting switches, splitting teams as if we were dropping Defcon 4, farming Onyxia's skin so we can make 40 capes to take on nef. That is fun!.

The WoW that most haters played were the grind to 60, wondering where the fun went. WoW should have just been a raid game, since the 1-60 is useless. I do not know the current state of WoW since I left the game during the world event to open AQ.

It also helps when your guild was spearheaded by a gynecologist and a pediatrician; after hours were a hoot.

PsycheE

@Vidunder: I for one have played it, alot and i can say that it is severly lacking in content. Im enjoying the game but i could only imagine how much more id enjoy it if i wasnt paying to play a beta. A bug here and there is to be expected, but there is no excuse for things like broken feats and bad tooltips. Those are very basic things that should be working 100% before a game is shipped. The problem with AOC is that it lacks polish which is why a large number of people playing it now feel like they are basically paying to beta test it. I love the game though which is what annoys the shit out of me. My common sense tells me to wait a year and come back when most of the bugs are ironed out and its more enjoyable to play, but i enjoy what does work so much that i really dont see myself taking any huge amount of time off from it.

Detre

I just went to read the whole article now, and discovered that he doesn't just compare WoW to McDonalds, but Lord of the Rings online too.

The guy is simply delirious.

Abriael

The biggest news in this story is that Fahey found a McDonald's that gets the order right 90% of the time...

Killtacular

Comments like this bother me in some very minor level, but they do bother me, because it's very stupid.

As a developer, I can honestly tell you, that WoW is still the Morton's U.S.D.A Steak... and they are McDonnald's.

IronMan

@Eric:

LOL

Other than the first week of release, WoW has been smooth sailing for me, with the RARE server shutdown. Not the same thing I'm hearing from AoC, don't try to make the WoW launch worse than it was to justify AoC, because someone will call you on it

z0phi3l

As much as I hate WoW, and having reached a respectable level 77 with my Guardian in AOC I can easily and safely assess that AoC is nowhere "meaty". It's good points you all know, since Kotaku hasn't been nothing short of appreciative in their previous articles, but here are the flaws, for the ones that are on the fence on if to try the game or not.
1: Poor quantity of mid-game content

2: absolute lack of end-game content

3: laughable class balance, and yes, class balance is normally polished later after a release, but the funniest thing is that funcom DOES try to adress that, making choices that go exactly in the opposite direction

4: large quantities of bugs, many of which are absolutely gamebreaking, like the fact that (yes, you're authorized to laugh) due to an error in the animations female characters attack 15% slower than male characters, and deal 15% less damage. Or the fact that many players (me included) are prevented to enter the three most profitable instances of the game due to a cooldown that doesn't reset (and being barred out of content when there's already so few is pathetic)

5: Absolutely screwed priorities on bug fixing and patching. Funcom simply doesn't seem to have any idea on what needs to be fixed first to make the game playable and waste time on absolutely meaningless patches. Just to make an example, the female attack speed bug has been reported since the beginning of the beta, and still it hasn't been fixed. The instance cooldown bug is there since release, but there's absolutely no official word on it. In the last patch they completely WASTED development time fixing some DANCES (so that now you can fall off cliffs as the dance animation brings you beyond the edge), or making level 70 solo mobs harder (so that, since 70-75+ the only way to progress is grinding, the grind is now made even more painful, expecially for some classes that already struggled before).

6: completely bugged crafting: most tradeskill have bugs here and there that halt a player's progression. Alchemy being the funniest, since to progress it requires items that don't exist in the game.

7: patches break more things that they solve: at every patch new bugs arise. After today's patch the servers begun disconnecting people every 10 minutes (at least in the european servers) and now they've just went down for 5 hours of unscheduled downtime, right in the middle of primetime

8: absolutely zero communication from Funcom to the players: Despite the fact that the game is so broken, funcom refuses to give any info or precise timelines for fixes and evolution, and basically never answers to players' concerns in the official forums

9: abysmal customer service: when you petition to GMs for help, you're bound to wait 6-8 hours (and if you go offline and your petition gets it's turn, it gets canceled), most of the times just to be told by the GM that he won't help on things that he obviously has the powers to fix (like progressing broken quests).

All in all, AoC might be an enjoyable game, when it works, but most betas are just as enjoyable, and that's what AoC is, a beta (an early beta at that), that we have to play for. People definately felt that and I can't remember a forum dedicated to a game with bigger amounts of (even harsh, and definately deserved) criticism by dissatisfied customers. The playerbase is quitting in droves. I wouldn't be surprised if it halved since launch to now.

Funcom is, as of now, in my eyes, the most shameful MMORPG developer operating in the field.

Mr. Gaute "Delirious" Godager, instead of throwing absolutely SENSELESS jabs at the competition (and I feel that there's no part of the competition that's inferior to Funcom's service as of now, not only Blizzard), should get off his high horse hat in hand and officially apologize to his customers. But I seriously doubt He'll do that, since he seems to be absolutely convinced that Funcom is handling this seriously disastrous release in the best way.

More and more detailed info on my blog here [classygamer.blogspot.com]

Abriael

@I Think We're Property:

That is nonsense. The meat sent to arby's is packed in a gelatinous or wet substance to keep it fresh but it is not at all paste or anything of the kind. I do think the meat is procesed in some special way though. It is different from your normal everyday roast beef.

Anyway back on topic I think most MMOs are the same anyway. They just have slightly different falvors. I tried Lineage 2 once and it bored me to tears and I never played it again.

AzureDrag0n1

@Riotpoll: "And the fact they still haven't fixed female characters attacking 30% slower in melee combat (afaik)."

Should be 15%, but still it's the most ridiculous issue in the history of MMORPGs, and the fact that it hasn't been corrected since beta shows that they really need to seek employment at Tecmo to work on the next Gallop Racer (after all it seems that positions are opening up there) and leave MMORPGS to the pros.

Abriael

@dye: no tip from me either.

Up to level 50 is fine, then it's so unbelievably boring. And the fact they still haven't fixed female characters attacking 30% slower in melee combat (afaik).

Riotpoll

AoC subscription canceled after playing for about a week. I was absolutely bored out of my mind.

Another WoW with a different skin on it.

goddessakasha

@MelodyKitn: Dont worry when its finally done you'll feel like you ate it before at mcdonalds.

Detre

I quit AOC and reinstalled old City of Villians. Good times.

WhiteRabbit

I thought I ordered steak (love the stuff), but I keep getting something that looks like undercooked thin strips of bacon... on the other hand, I've asked the waiter to send at least the roast duck (Warhammer) and he keeps sending back breadsticks saying it's not ready yet...

MelodyKitn

Hah! That would be a pretty badass burn if AoC was more than half finished. Or if it didn't completely fucking suck.

Silverbackne

Since everyone is all RetCon on the WoW launch, let's remember that over the first weekend, they added a couple hundred servers to handle the load, and that for the zast majority, the servers were smooth after that weekend. But there always did seem to be a cluster that never quite worked right for months, and while everyone else was playing it would be down.

So yeah, there are probably hundreds of thousands of people that had problems at launch, but the majority had smooth sailing.

@Koztah - I started Noble in my late thirties, and finished all but level restricted by mid 40s. Short of doing the sewers, the zone is empty for me. @level 50 EM mountains had 6 quests when I entered last night. 3 of which were wanted posters for Kill x number quests. Im still exploring the zone, so maybe there's another quest hub, but I would harldy call it filling my quest log.

lonkley

I loathe WoW ... but for him to say steak and wine ... too bad there is bugs in both.

EnigmaNemesis

@dry-roasted-peanuts: "Aren't all currently running MMOs, by their very nature, "unfinished"? Devs are still working on content/upgrades for AOC, WOW, Guild Wars and City of Heroes, so I don't see how you can call ever call any of them done."

I think a lot of people are quick to forget how broken and unfinished WoW was when it launched. I was there in beta, I was there when it launched, I remember how unfinished the hunter class was, how the quantity/quality of content dropped in the 30's and how the first 6 months of endgame consisted of mindless attacking villages, farming resources and raiding ony over and over and over again.

WoW is easily the standard when it comes to MMO's, but comparing a 3.5 year old game to one of 1 1/2 months in this manner is silly. The important thing is the game play and concepts in Age of Conan are better; and when it does get fleshed out in the months/years to come I think it could potentially be the better product. It'll never be as casual, but for online RPG fans it'll be a lot more enjoyable.

Replica23

Thanks, Gaute - nearly forgot to cancel my AoC subscription.

Lorch

@Replica23: "WoW is easily the standard when it comes to MMO's, but comparing a 3.5 year old game to one of 1 1/2 months in this manner is silly."

I beg to differ. The market has changed, the playerbase has changed, and most importantly, expectations have changed. If you fail to see that and subscribe to the thought of "That's always how it's been" then you're going to get left behind.

thegreatpablo

@thegreatpablo: Agreed. Games like AoC and Vanguard are just begging for backlash when they dump a broken, incomplete product onto the market, charge full price and expect people to subsidize months-long extended beta periods.

Even more annoying is that so few reviewers will score a MMO as it stands, instead just giving an 8 for effort and the benefit of the doubt to promised features and polish that haven't arrived.

Silverbackne

@wild homes has particularly attractive fries today: "Is there a restaurant that actually takes a dump in your food while it's on the table?

That Is there a restaurant that actually takes a dump in your food while it's on the table?

That would be Hardee's.

Cupajo

@lonkley: I completely agree with your buddy key comment. My friend had the money to pick up AoC and we were planning on using his buddy key to hook me up with it until I had the cash to buy it. Instead, no AoC for me. Honestly, this hasn't turned out to be that bad of a thing since my friend has canceled his subscription already. He hit 80 within about two weeks (he has no life...I swear), found a bunch of things that bothered him in the game, got bored, and quit.

Anyway, the linked article was pretty interesting overall. As someone who hasn't played the game but has followed it pretty carefully, I enjoyed the inside look at the launch. Still, his ego was pretty obnoxious there at the end.

FeendRendor

I'm a vegetarian. Does that mean I can't play either one?

topaz420

Sigh, when will these companies understand. You aim to be the McDonalds of gaming.

R3load

No wonder I've never really seen the appeal of WoW, or any MMO really until I tried City of Heroes, and that was years after it first launched and the whole damn game was pretty different. And it's changed massively even since then.

MMOs have a strength in that they can change over time, fixing what's wrong with it and adapting to what the players like. Then again, Star Wars Galaxies showed that can backfire massively.

MMOs are a very different beast from any other kind of game in many senses. It's still a relatively unproved market. As shallow as WoW is though, half the MMOs out there today probably wouldn't exist if WoW hadn't brought attention to the genre.

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

If WoW is really Fast food (And who doesn't love Fast food) then Age of Conan is half a starter course at Nando's.

You know you're going to regret eating it later ;)

JamesR87

Wow, he has big brass ones to say something like that, while he sits on an unfinished game. If WoW is McDonalds, and Age of Conan is a steak with a glass of wine; then the steak must have been sitting out in the sun for a good week and a half, and the wine was brewed in toilet bowl of the local prison 3 mins and 45 seconds ago.

Rahzephen

@Eric:

What are you talking about ?

WoW servers down half of the time ? There were like 40 realms on EU side only and of those maybe 5 had problems with lag, nothing else serverwise.
Content ?
You have not played WoW 3 years ago if you can compare the absolute lack of any content in Conan right now with the tons of dungeons, zones and encounters WoW had at the start.

Aeryss

Having played AoC I can say that compared to WoW as a burger AoC is a small scrape of fat you find sometimes in some dark corner of your fridge.

Aeryss

If WoW is like McDonald's, then AoC is more like Hooters. The food isn't good, but...

Oh, and waiter? I found too many bugs in my food.

Next time, Gaut God, make sure you finish cooking before you send your "steak" to my table. There aren't enough quests, there isn't enough content, and the patch notes are hilarious. Yes, I'd rather eat at McDonald's than chew on more tripe. Subscription canceled.

WhereIsTheBeef

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Brad McQuaid say something similar back before Vanguard took a dump? Comparing Vanguard to a fine steak dinner and WoW to beer and peanuts?

At least the makers of WAR seem to know what they are going up against when it comes to WoW.

Kragg_Goremaw