@rljohn: I thought Resistance was a great game.

Mpalm.

Awesome. I don't see why most games aren't 720P and why 1080I/P is so hyped... seriously--you can't tell the difference between the two unless you have a TV larger than 42". The 30 FPS kind of jabbed at me, but as long as the game is smooth, it's fine. Besides... 60 player multiplayer? Awesome.

September

@rljohn: Compared to the launch titles on my other consoles? I was pretty impressed.

Wolfers

@rljohn: That's rather harsh. Resistance was a rushed launch title. It was still solid, but evidently rushed.

putting it up against Cod4 is just being mean. You should have played it when it came out. It was good at the time, seriously.

Ichidou

@boots555: Dude will you be counting the frames every second? Who cares as long as it's smooth? And remember, 60 players max on mp, 2 stories for campaign (one with 8-player co-op) and no loading screen. Woah all that? ;)

slomo788

@jun581: "Lesson 1: 'PS3 is not a bitch to program on, it's just different!"

Repeat! ... There! You've already passed 74% of the course, you really are talented guys!

Lol I love how owning consoles gives me the right to shit on people that probably know more about programming that I will ever for my next 6 lives.

slomo788

Ass cream?????????????? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Im dissapointed that this game will be only 30 frames considering Teddy said initially that the game would be 60 frames! In fact he said all games going forward would be 60. Damn, if call of duty can be a fluid 60 frames then why in the hell can't all these games be 60. I dont care if the resolution is 640P or whatever, 60 frames was running on the sega saturn!

The Karate Kid

I'm pumped for some Resistance 2 but only 30fps?

boots555

@slomo788: LOL. that's a good title for the name of the course. Let me take a stab at this.

Lesson 1: "PS3 is not a bitch to program on, it's just different!"

@TheIrishNinja: That they are. I look at uncharted and R&C and compare it R6V2 and Orange box, and it's almost like Night and Day .

jun581

@rljohn: Ass cream?

Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic

@rljohn: Right. The rest of the world clearly agrees with you.

slomo788

@jun581: I repeat what you said without kidding: "Introducing Insomniac's 8-week intensive PS3 programming course and multi-core processors in general. Become a leader in terms of streaming and stuff. Valve, id and all the other dinosaurs, you are welcome!"

slomo788

I hope they've done a lot of work on this game, because the original resistance was a giant pile of ass cream. Our home got our PS3 a couple weeks before CoD4 was released, and the game has been shelved since that date. So bad >.<

rljohn

As far as install sizes go, I don't really care about them or not. I have an 80 gig and the ps3 is so easy to mod with a bigger hard drive that it really doesn't matter. Plus, not having load times (at least long ones) is nice...GTAIV takes good advantage of this...this game looks pretty sweet and Insomniac is awesome.

jpneiswi

@Luke Plunkett:

No it isn't too early because they have been running some fairly complete and solid code for a while. They waited until they had repeatedly tested the net code, a semi complete presentation, and 60 man multiplayer before publically making the claim. Ted Price has a history of shooting straight including being very forthright about where they fell short. I can't wait until they get offices up here where I live.

Hatchetforce

@Chaospluto: yeah, good news on both fronts.

@Grumps: the inevitable 3-4 gigs, no? i guess we dont know yet but this one's looking worth it.

@jun581: that's not a bad idea, actually, if valve was gonna do anything else on PS3.

You can be a fan of Resistance, you can not be a fan, either way you have to admit: Insomniac run a tight technical ship.

seriously agreed here. Them and Naughty Dog are really putting some of the other devs to shame so far this gen.

TheIrishNinja

Man, Insomniac is very good at programming for the PS3. Ted Price should call Gabe and offer him and the team 2 month course (EA can have an open invitation). i kid, i kid.

jun581

Glad to see it running in 720p and no load times a huge plus.

Chaospluto

Can it upscale to 1080p like R&C:TOD?

Kenny

It didn't mention anything about install size.

Grumps

@jeffram: its not TOO early. Game's out in six months

Luke Plunkett

Really early in the game to call this. I expect that they are already hitting, or are near their targets. Insomniac has been one of the devs this generation.

jeffram

Loved resistance and i don't really care for FPS much. I am looking forward to see the story evolve in the second title though.

insomniac kicks ass. That cannot be denied.

DrunkRaba

Resistance seems like a normal HD game now, but that shouldn't matter. If anything, I think 720p is enough for HD, and no Loading screens?

Wow, Insomniac you are great!

ultimate920

@katboi:

Me too. I love Insomniac. I wish I could work for them.

LittleBigPlaneteer

Technicalities don't really matter. I just want a good game and Insomniac can deliver.

neoraul20

Insomniac is by far my favorite developer this generation, I would love to work for them some day.

katboi

@Ichidou: Resistance is probably the best launch title in this next gen era. Also, putting R:FOM against C0d4 isn't mean. I believe Resistance is better than CoD4. Yes, CoD4 is good, but lately, it's extremely hard to find an online game. Maybe it's cause I don't have the map pack, but still. It shouldn't be hard to find a game. Resistance has a better party system with a buddy list, message system and ability to see who's in a game or not. Also, CoD4 gets boring after 3 or 4 games. The single player for Resistance I thought was better than CoD4. I still haven't beaten it. Don't reayy have the urge to do so.It is too gong show.

goaliegeek

whatever happened to sony's 1080p mandatory ?

@The Karate Kid: while 60 fps would be awesome (or at least anything that matches the refresh of the monitor), 30 is pretty decent if its constant and smooth, considering 35 mm film runs at 24 and no one has really complained the past 80 years.

Kayin

@Grumps: Well, Resistance: Fall of Man and Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction didn't have installations and Resistance 2 is using the same engine as those games...

So, yeah. Your shots at game installations don't really fit here.

Deviation59

The only thing I expect from Insomniac is awesomeness, and I'm not worried

Struct09

I thought the first Resistance was great so I will definitely be picking this up when it comes out.

GreenCard200

Insomniac really are a great bunch of developers, this gen they have been amazing.

WolfGod

i never played the first one i guess i`ll go buy that first before this still looks cool though

slyzxx786

@Grumps: Actually Insomniac talked about it in their research papers. There won't be an install, but it'll be nice/required to have 256MB free when you run R2. While you're playing, the game copies the next section/level from BD to HDD. When you approach the next section, the game starts replacing textures and assets (this is the only hard part).

30fps hm, I hope they implemented motion-blur then :S. In their R1 debriefing, they wrote R1 could run at 60FPS on 1080p - they just didn't have enough VRAM for a 4xMSAA 1080p back-buffer + 2 1080p front buffers. (chose to fill the VRAM with more textures). [the framebuffers would have taken 50MB just by themselves].

@Deviation59: Actually R2 is using an upgraded version of the Ratchet&Clank engine, not the R1 one :)

somarix

@somarix: If memory serves me right, the R&C engine is an upgraded version of the R1 engine since they don't have two separate engine teams.

One thing about Insomniac that most other devs should learn to is how to reuse, improve and maintain healthy codebases.

zoesch

@Kayin: BTW 35mm aren't the only format they run at 24fps. That is the standard, even for digital (Blu-ray movies even run at this rate). Also I don't remember Sony saying anything about all games playable at 1080p (unless they were referring to downloadable games, which many of them do), however I do remember them saying the same thing M$ said, which is all games will be playable in HD.

DeeBG

Whatever happened to 1080p and 60fps like call of duty?!

eviltower01

@eviltower01: You must be talking about "Call of Duty 10" or something, son.

jsf49

@eviltower01: Possibly 18 players vs 60 players online having something to do with it. Also COD4 is fun, but it is far less resource intensive. Heck look at Halo 3 it doesn't even run at full 720p and it's 30 FPS but it has more things going on.

I do not doubt another developer could do some magic voodoo with Resistance 2 to make it run at 60fps. Insomniac is one of the best companies at what they do and they make games they are very tight. Also I'm sure R2 will be playable at 1080p, if you TV doesn't upconvert I believe the PS3 will (of course it's not it's native res, so take your pick).

DeeBG

@Deviation59: Actually Resistance 1 does have an install, its only 180mb though, so it takes like a minute.... anyway that was a really good game so Resistance 2 should be pretty good.

And both insomniac and naughty dog really do prove people wrong when they say the ps3 is impossible to program for, they make other companies look bad...

scuba2steve

@somarix: 256 MB is paltry (in a good way) compared to the install sizes the PS3 has become notorious for. I'm really hoping Insomniac can pull this off, I've actually played through the first Resistance and it's pretty damn solid.

Frank

@eviltower01: I'm not sure what the FPS for COD4 is again but certainly doesn't run at 1080p... hell it's vertical resolution is 600 (or was it 640?) pixels.

okenny :)

@scuba2steve: what devs actually mean is our xbox 360 code doesn't work on the ps3 meaning we have to put effort into porting code onto the ps3.

dsmx

@rljohn: Well, I can agree with the ass cream analogy in the sense that it provided massive relief from the other launch titles. I thought Resistance was better than COD4, but thats probably because I prefer single player. Its probably my third favorite game for the console, behind GTA and Rock Band.

jetsmanfoley

I'm surprised there hasn't been a comment about how 30fps is subpar. Oh well, I'll start it.

Isn't 30fps a little...on the low side by today's standards?

pinoyunggoy

If I recall wasn't a Naughty Dog (i think) that actually did hold a sort conference announcing a program they have put together to better familiarize other developers with the Playstation 3's architecture? It was either them or Insomniac. Either way, if I could I would buy lots of stock in both developers. They are proving everyone else in the industry wrong on PS3 development. Their games run much better than others on the Platform as well, and without large install times or long loading screens.

I look forward to Resistance 2. I loved the first one, and me and a friend play it co-op every now and then. It wasn't a Halo killer, but it's a nice staple franchise the PS3 could use for its shooter catalogue. And it's a bit unfair to put R1 next to CoD4, just as it was unfair when folks put R1 up against PD0. It's easy to take a came that's release much, much later in the year (or next year for that matter) and say much better the latter looks/playes.

nine07

24 fps works ok for film because the film captures motion blur due to shutter speeds. The only way for games to make up for this difference is to crank the fps up (which allows your eyes to correct the difference) or add motion blur that looks the same as film motion blur (easier said than done).

Disclaimer: I am very excited about R2 and am not complaining about the 30 fps. Just wanted to point this out.

fulgore66

I really can't believe I didn't have a single Insominac game last generation. I never knew they kicked so much ass.

goldwings

hrm...

COD4 runs at 2560 x 1600 on my PC, at 75FPS.

And

My PC costed less than my PS3 did (launch day though).

balls187 upside yo head

So at 720p and 30 FPS they are basically meeting the minimum requirement to be a PS3 game. Good showing Insomniac!

gencid

@gencid: Oh aren't you precious? Well if 60 man multiplayer runs at that, I'll be impressed, and if the game looks good, I couldn't care about the specs behind it, and providing it's a steady and smooth frame rate it'll be fine.

*Adds to list of reasons I wants a PS3

TearsandScreams

@balls187 upside yo head: Unfortunately most developers don't care about PC development. But still, more power to you for being an avid PC gamer.

I used to have my day in the spotlight too. Until I realized I don't care to "tweak" or upgrade my system to play various games.

sascha23

It seems like Resistance is now content complete and is just receiving the loving polish it needs to be a great AAA title come November.

Looking very forward to the gameplay reveal coming next week.

sascha23

The 24fps film comparison is rubbish. 24fps is fine when you're sitting there passively _watching_ pre-rendered film, but please try and _play_ a shooter at 24fps (if you've got a PC, that means try playing Crysis) and you'll see that it's a pretty crappy experience. 30fps is really the minimum for a shooter to be smooth, both in its rendering and its control, especially if you're shooting at other players and your accuracy matters. It's funny that 2+ years into this console generation anyone would be bragging about 720p/30fps, given the hyperbole about the new consoles' power when they were introduced.

AtomicPlayboy

@AtomicPlayboy: LOL you have no clue what your talking about,i'd be willing to bet a thousand bucks if it where even possible that i could set up 4 pcs in a row and run the same game at {roughly of course as fps never stops goin up and down) 30,40,50 and 60 fps and you wouldn't be able to tell me which is the lowest,highest etc etc.Actually i know you wouldn't so the bet point now that i think about it is just talkin big.

SlowDeath420

@SlowDeath420: I assume this is just flame bait and not some attempt to make an intelligent (or intelligible) argument that there is no discernible difference between 30fps and 60fps when playing a first person shooter. There is a multi-billion-dollar graphics card industry that is pretty much built around this idea. Otherwise, why upgrade from a NVidia 7800 to a 9800? The shader support in games is the same, so screens will look the same, they'll just be playable at HIGHER FPS. So, by your logic, everyone who invests in such graphics cards upgrades does so out of ignorance (which for some reason you don't share), or out of a desire to be "talkin big"? I'll take that thousand bucks, thanks. Actually, keep it. Invest it in a remedial English class.

AtomicPlayboy

Yet another PS3 game (exclusive one too) that can't do 1080p. What's up with being the Full HD console?

mcool93

Loved the first Resistance. Can't wait for this one. Also, lols at people arguing about the Graphics. The graphics were good enough for me in R1, but I loved the Gameplay and Story.

Doshi

@balls187 upside yo head:

"costed" less?

fraggenstein

f00k some of you people are just annoying. If the game is fun and looks good, who cares about the frames per second? Halo 3 was great, it was an exclusive that was made by the innermost echelon of Microsoft developers, and they couldn't even squeeze 720p out of it. Did that hinder the game? Not at all.

fraggenstein

1080i is a big issue because some HDTVs cant take 720p, this is a issue with the ps3 that most of you and the press have forgotten about.

npa191