xbox 360
Gears of War 2 Fixes Gears 1 Multiplayer Annoyances
Posted by Brian Ashcraft at 3:00 PM on June 20, 2008
Gears of War 1 is a really good game. We like it! But there were, like with every game, things that bugged us about Gears 1 multiplayer — made us mad, even. The Cliffster, Gears of War mastermind, cares. The Cliffster doesn't want what bugged you in Gears 1 mulitplayer to bug you in Gears of War 2 multiplayer. Why? Because The Cliffster is good like that. Like we said, The Cliffster cares. Just listen to what The Cliffster has to say:
People loved it but they didn't like the host advantage [in Gears 1 multiplayer]. They got tired of the shotgun inconsistencies. We're fixing all of that. They didn't like the randomness of the chainsaw, so we put the chainsaw duel in — may the best man win! A lot of players wanted respawning, but we added in some modes for downloadable content on Gears 1 that added respawning, but even then it was a 15-second cue. So we have game modes now, like Guardian, where players cycle in and out a lot more often. And Wingman, which is kind of like our version of Last Man Standing Free-for-All, where you have five teams of two each. So it's you and a buddy versus the world, which feels really good. We've added a lot more depth to the multiplayer.
Thanks for that Mr. The Cliffster! Always keen for making stuff better.
Gears 2 Interview [GamePro via NeoGAF via Xbox 360 Fanboy]

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
Shoitaan
Posted June 20, 2008 4:27 PM
Shotgun and chainsaw advantage changes are nice but I preffered the no-respawns of the original. Meant less idiot kills/deaths. You fight harder to stay alive etc
Ah well :(
Soopy
Posted 3:33 PM 20/6/08
@Grimmjow Jeagerjaques: i wont :) this game is going to be the roxxorz
Soopy
ghostadv
Posted 3:32 PM 20/6/08
Coo. I'll pick this game up once the price drops on the 360 this holiday season. Bit too pricey for my tastes as it is.
ghostadv
Viet0ne
Posted 3:32 PM 20/6/08
LoL, they fixed the Host advantage?
Yeah right, unless Epic is going to host dedicated servers, Host advantage will always be a problem. As its a problem on 99% of XBL games.
Viet0ne
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Posted 3:26 PM 20/6/08
I'll wait for the PC version.
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
sbrumm1983
Posted 3:25 PM 20/6/08
Wingman seems like it would be awesome in Gears.
sbrumm1983
goldwings
Posted 3:25 PM 20/6/08
Thumbs up to you Cliff.
goldwings
AJMarra
Posted 3:24 PM 20/6/08
@Arahem: Aww, that's sad. Getting attached to a character and then his head explodes.
Gotta' love Gears for that.
AJMarra
Archaotic
Posted 3:24 PM 20/6/08
I really wish this amount of fan response went into Unreal Tournament 3's development...I'll never enjoy a Gears game, so all this talk is sounding like the teachers from Charlie Brown to me. "Bwah bwah bwah bwah."
Archaotic
pchea
Posted 3:23 PM 20/6/08
@minimelo321: Hahahahahahaha
pchea
Arahem
Posted 3:21 PM 20/6/08
@Nirolak: Maybe he...got better.
Though I would like to see more of Carmine. He struck a chord with me for some reason.
Arahem
Coquiton
Posted 3:18 PM 20/6/08
@Nirolak: Flashbacks, perhaps?
I just hope they keep grenade sticking intact. That was so much fun to do.
Run run run, thwack, run away.
Coquiton
Lixie
Posted 3:16 PM 20/6/08
Shotguns of War drops this fall.
Lixie
Nirolak
Posted 3:15 PM 20/6/08
They also confirmed that Carmine has been brought back from the dead.
"Based on what you've announced so far, what are you most excited about players experiencing with Gears 2?
I want them to see how it ends. I want them to spend more time with the guys in Delta squad, Carmine and everybody, too. I want them to get to know these guys better and I want them to enjoy the cool places we take them in this game. I want them to enjoy the roller coaster of the campaign mode and then take a friend in and play with a friend. That's the great thing about co-op."
Nirolak
GiantEnemyCrab
Posted 3:14 PM 20/6/08
Good! Host advantage was so terrible, you could barely kill the host unless you ganged up on him.
GiantEnemyCrab
minimelo321
Posted 3:12 PM 20/6/08
Really, you can still say CliffyB, it's not like anything happe
minimelo321
slomo788
Posted 3:11 PM 20/6/08
@Aethyr: CliffyB was for GoW1. Now it's The Cliffster, more badass, more violent, more everything. Just look at that picture. Makes me want to drink blood!
slomo788
VonDante
Posted 3:10 PM 20/6/08
Love your new name for Cliff, Cliffster takes the cake all day long.
Also very glad these issues were addressed. As much as I played Gears 1 multi, I bitched about it more. The things exactly what he refers to as being fixed for GoW2. So I can only hope these are idle words and they issues are truly fixed.
If that's the fact, I'm pumped to play GoW2 online.
VonDante
Katorok
Posted 3:06 PM 20/6/08
I loled, but seriously make a match making system, and this game will be king!
Katorok
Aethyr
Posted 3:05 PM 20/6/08
I kind of miss the days of CliffyB.
Aethyr
Xcite79
Posted 3:05 PM 20/6/08
That is very good news :)
Xcite79
DugDawg
Posted 3:05 PM 20/6/08
I'm proposing a drinking game where everyone take a shot everytime "Cliffster" is mentioned in this post.
DugDawg
PatMan33
Posted 3:03 PM 20/6/08
I'm so glad you guys changed his name to "The Cliffster".
PatMan33
Knoxximus (360/PSN)
Posted 3:02 PM 20/6/08
....we'll take it!
Knoxximus (360/PSN)
YesILikeGuys
Posted 4:03 PM 20/6/08
@ilovgoogle: 7-8-08
YesILikeGuys
Libo
Posted 4:03 PM 20/6/08
@Viet0ne: You need to take into consideration that Gears quite possibly had the worst netcode out of all Xbox 360 titles (Army of Two doesn't exist). The host advantage on Gears is far more threatening than any other game.
This was my major complaint with the first game, I'm glad they used their brains this time. All we need now is some dedicated servers (I know it will never happen, but I can dream).
Libo
excaliburps
Posted 3:55 PM 20/6/08
I wonder if Cliff reads the posts here. Would he get annoyed by Bash calling hime Cliffster? In fairness though Bash only said it twice...=)
The Cliffster sounds like Clitster...Heehee yes I'm an immature ass!
On a sidenote, I would love to own my own chain-gun! That would make trimming the hedges so manly...I can even use it to shave my face.
excaliburps
ilovgoogle
Posted 3:54 PM 20/6/08
I'll pay them any amount for Gears 2! I hope they have a legendary edition with some sort of awsome item toy thingy.
ilovgoogle
dowingba
Posted 3:50 PM 20/6/08
They turned off the voice feature?
dowingba
Beasterling
Posted 3:47 PM 20/6/08
Sounds good, maybe a little to good...
Beasterling
JayrodT
Posted 4:22 PM 20/6/08
No mention of not having to sit there for 2 minutes every time someone leaves the game makes me a sad panda.
JayrodT
YesILikeGuys
Posted 4:10 PM 20/6/08
@ilovgoogle: They already have action figures.
And just wait for 7-8-08.
YesILikeGuys
RonJeremy4Pres
Posted 4:44 PM 20/6/08
And they STILL don't have just a normal ass free-for-all deathmatch? Inexcusable.
RonJeremy4Pres
Talleh
Posted 4:38 PM 20/6/08
Isn't fixing inconsistencies part of patching and supporting a game after release? Tweaking damage, range, whatever it is, usually keeps going. Guess not with gears...let the shotgun be broken and inconsistent! Leave it be!
Talleh
genbeef
Posted 4:38 PM 20/6/08
....why couldn't he do this for gears 1?
genbeef
Laughin_Caulk
Posted 5:38 PM 20/6/08
I like the sound of Wingman, very few games have co-op free-for-all, only artificially. It was always fun in arcade games or Smash Bros when it's you and a friend vs another team, but you and a friend vs a bunch of other teams just nails it.
Laughin_Caulk
Xander
Posted 5:30 PM 20/6/08
Where's my matchmaking? And what about my ability to actually change game options?!
Xander
Murderdolls
Posted 5:09 PM 20/6/08
All of this should have been in Gears 1 like genbeef said ^
Murderdolls
Samos42
Posted 6:00 PM 20/6/08
How do you even get all these pictures of him? What will the Cliffster's name for Gears 3 be I wonder? There isn't much else left... Crap, we might have to call him by his real name...
Samos42
Friction
Posted 5:59 PM 20/6/08
It'll never go away... IMO, the host lancer is much more annoying than the host shotty... They can however reduce it...
Friction
freakout
Posted 5:55 PM 20/6/08
@Laughin_Caulk: I agree. So looking forward to this!
I don't know what it was about Gears, but it always had a much nicer atmosphere than other XBL shooters, esp. Halo. Sure there was still the occasional dickhead, but for the most part everyone really seemed to get into the team-based nature of it all. 90% of the people on my friends list, I met while playing Gears. I'm praying that Gears 2 has the same thing going.
freakout
Okinuza
Posted 6:37 PM 20/6/08
Wingman seems really interesting. I should seriously stop spending and invest in a 360 for myself. This and lots of other things are really tempting me into buying one but I have nothing but a mere $120...
Okinuza
idkmybffgreg
Posted 6:34 PM 20/6/08
@Samos42: CBlezzy. Hopefully The Cliffster has a long and healthy run, though, cause I'm quite fond of the name.
idkmybffgreg
Zho
Posted 6:34 PM 20/6/08
As long as they keep splitscreen online (you and a friend on the same Xbox going online) I'll be glad to pick this up
Zho
lumpi
Posted 6:43 PM 20/6/08
The Cliffster knows what's good for his hip crowd.
lumpi
Gunloc
Posted 7:26 PM 20/6/08
All I ask is for Cliff to fix assassination for gears 2. The leader picking up the weapons was where it was at! Having to cover the leader so he could pass the sniper rifle to another member made it real special. When they changed it all they did was make the fans of that gametype hate it but try and deal with it. While the players who complained still didnt like the fact the game was won on the result of just the leader being killed and went back to playing execution or warzone. I had alot of friends refuse to play it anymore after the patch and that really took the fun out of the game for me.
I still play gears sometimes because the game is just fun at it's core.
I have high hopes for Gears 2.
Gunloc
Orionsaint
Posted 7:16 PM 20/6/08
Will it fix the fact that I can't join matches from players on a wireless modems. Because they're NAT is moderate and my NAT is open. God I hate that. I lost a lot of good friends on live over that annoying NAT issue.
Orionsaint
cheesecake000
Posted 8:03 PM 20/6/08
I loved Gears 1 multiplayer. It will be fantastic if they really do fix everything for Gears 2.
I would still be playing Gears 1 multiplayer but I just got so damn sick of the host advantage and then people crying when I would host and then people crying everytime I would kill them with the lancer, or the shotgun, or the pistol, or the boomshot, or the longshot... Do you think they could fix that part?
Anyways I have had Gears of War 2 LE preordered for a month now. It's cause I'm hardcore. Or something.
cheesecake000
thund3rstruck
Posted 10:57 PM 20/6/08
I'm so tired of seeing Cliffy B in these stupid poses. When are his testicles going to drop? Isn't he in his 30's. For god sakes man, stop pretending to be so "badass" by playing with action figures and props; loser.
thund3rstruck
theespacepope
Posted 10:52 PM 20/6/08
This seems as good as place as any to say that my buddy was at the Best Buy in Cary and saw a brand new Lamborghini in the parking lot and wondered who it belonged to. Sure a few seconds later he saw CliffyB (Cliffster). He was buying a ton of Blu Ray movies and when he got to his car he jumped over the door instead of just opening it. Apparently he had this douchebag air about him (i've never liked CliffyB).
"Pics or it didn't happen": Trust me I yelled at my friend for not taking any pictures of him. I was just really bored and saw a CliffyB related post on Kotaku so yeah.
Also, apparently he is really short.
theespacepope
Crawl to China
Posted 11:46 PM 20/6/08
I wish I had a replica of the lancer, so I could get a picture like that taken of me. Incredible.
Crawl to China
MASOCHIST187
Posted 11:24 PM 20/6/08
@Katorok: @Xander:
Matchmaking has been confirmed.
MASOCHIST187
peAr nectAr
Posted 12:25 AM 21/6/08
@MASOCHIST187: Source, plz.
@freakout: I wish I was playing on your servers. But maybe Gears people only seemed more annoying because I wasn't expecting it, for some reason, unlike how I approached Halo 3.
I would like one mode where it is 8 v 8 in a really big map, to have an actual "war" feeling (or at least a skirmish). I mean, if the Cliffster promises "bigger, badder, and more badass" or whatever the hell that catchphrase was, then bigger multiplayer matches may be a place to start.
peAr nectAr
Salen
Posted 12:17 AM 21/6/08
Good to know a few of those things will be changed in GoW2, but can we please stop calling CliffyB by his supervillian name, The Cliffster. Please?
Salen
crapsh00t
Posted 12:52 AM 21/6/08
If they can make it so it's not so obviously who's hosting the game, that would be awesome. Like many have said hear, I enjoyed Gears multi immensely but would often curse out the lag. Sometimes it felt like my weapons were shooting paintballs considering how much I would have to lead a target.
/Never hosted, hosting is for cowards.
crapsh00t
MASOCHIST187
Posted 12:51 AM 21/6/08
nevermind, guess they post themselves.
MASOCHIST187
MASOCHIST187
Posted 12:51 AM 21/6/08
@peAr nectAr:
sorry, don't know how to post links, but here.
[www.gamepro.com]
MASOCHIST187
Mav
Posted 1:58 AM 21/6/08
@theespacepope: Man if I owned a convertible I'd hop the door too.
Mav
w0nd3r
Posted 1:57 AM 21/6/08
I'm glad they fleshed out host advantage (or so they say), its what killed the game for a majority of the players. Here is to hoping the multiplayer overtakes COD4 :o. *raises cup*
w0nd3r
Billkwando
Posted 2:50 AM 21/6/08
You are the sunliiiiiight in my groin
Sorry, that's what the pic reminded me of..... when I saw it and wrote this post at 7:30 this morning (when I originally posted it but it never showed)
Billkwando
TheHun
Posted 3:08 AM 21/6/08
No host shotgun??? That alone is a reason to get Gears2! This may get me to sign back up for XBL!
TheHun
LimeyGeeza
Posted 4:01 AM 21/6/08
Wait...
5 teams of 2? 10 player MP games instead of 8? hmmmm...
LimeyGeeza
Emperor_Guam
Posted 3:44 AM 21/6/08
There was very brief mention of matchmaking. I really hope they put in a party system.
Emperor_Guam
karmaghost
Posted 4:40 AM 21/6/08
My guess is that chainsaw duels will result in a massive increase in controller mods.
karmaghost
vagrantwade
Posted 4:47 AM 21/6/08
Id be willing to bet so much moolah that the only people posting negative things about Gears and CleftBizzle are those who don't own a 360 but envy the greatness that is Gears of War.
vagrantwade
Kerrell
Posted 5:54 AM 21/6/08
Improved multiplayer will compete with Halo 3 and CoD 4 on the xbox live ratings. I still call for more players in a match. At least 10 players instead of 8.
Kerrell
MaxChallie
Posted 5:23 AM 21/6/08
Not that I care for Gears of War at all, but I'm loving this trend. 'The Cliffster', lol
MaxChallie
TheGuero
Posted 9:02 AM 21/6/08
Honestly, everything they're adding should have been in Gears 1. I will end up buying it though because everything that turned me off about the first one is being fixed. Hurrah for added Multiplayer depth, it was much too repetitive in Gears 1.
TheGuero
Ozeki
Posted 10:19 AM 21/6/08
I really want to know if they're gonna implement an RPG-style levels/rank system. Would help keep things fresh. :|
Ozeki
DarthCaedus
Posted 4:11 PM 20/6/08
I like the changes but there's one thing they better not fuck with, headpopping soundfx. Not only the girly scream when your head comes off, but also the funny catchphrase when you headshot someone. At 4 in the morning, only awake because of energy drinks, host didn't matter, the game was too fuckin hilarious to stop playin.
DarthCaedus
GOLD5
Posted 2:37 AM 22/6/08
@thund3rstruck: Holy, having any fun in YOUR life, pal? Doesn't seem like it.
GOLD5