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Hey, Metal Gear Solid 5 Could Be A Prequel, Star Big Boss
Posted by Luke Plunkett at 12:30 PM on June 21, 2008
COULD! I say COULD! Not will. So relax. You cool? Then we cool. While chatting with the 1UP crew, Kojima Production's Ryan Payton has said "There are some misunderstandings that this is the final Metal Gear game. But it's really the final chapter of the Solid Snake story. That's all". Care to elaborate? Well, right before that, he said there's "still a lot of room for filling in the gaps as far as Big Boss is concerned". Make of that what you will. My favourite part of the interview, though, doesn't even concern Metal Gear. After he's asked whether Japanese devs should start adopting Western control methods in order to improve their games, Payton says: "If other Japanese publishers want to improve their controls, I wouldn't say they need to adopt western ideas, but rather that they simply need to improve them". Too true.
Metal Gear Solid 5 Could Be a Prequel [1UP]

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Frank
Posted 1:10 PM 21/6/08
@JimElNino: Since they predate the Solid series, maybe they could be called "Metal Gear Classic?"
I'd like to see a MGS Prequel myself, bridging the gap between Portable Ops and MG Classic. I'd like to know - and play - how Snake Sr. became Big Boss.
Frank
slomo788
Posted 1:09 PM 21/6/08
@Shalashaska: The "Solid" meant 3D according to Kojima, it was not for "Solid" Snake.
slomo788
Shalashaska
Posted 1:06 PM 21/6/08
The thing about MGS4, is that it should really be called MGS3, seeing as Snake's story is really a trilogy, and MGS3 should be something like Metal Gear Naked. I love all of them and even if this is the last of them, Kojima did well to introduce and complete the Solid saga and Murata I think would do well to carry on the Metal Gear name.
I hope they do something more because MGS4's controls are grand. The series really evolved from the culmination of every iteration, and, as a fan, I think it was executed magnificently. More than just a fresh coat of a paint, I wish all sequels took the trend of doing more than upgrading graphics and progressing story.
As for Payton's comment on the improving of games through controls and ideas, I think that goes for all developers, it's just that few are willing or even capable of doing it. It's hit or miss there and some appreciate the effort or condemn it.
Shalashaska
WildVulture
Posted 1:05 PM 21/6/08
I think I'm not alone when I say that I want Metal Gear: Chronicles.
Raiden taking Sunny back from the Patriots.
Ocelot post Portable Ops.
Campbell pre Portable Ops.
Meryl and the Rat Patrol.
WildVulture
slomo788
Posted 1:01 PM 21/6/08
@SG79: Lol I realized afterwards. But still.
slomo788
SG79
Posted 1:00 PM 21/6/08
@slomo788:
That's open to quite a few interpretations actually..
SG79
slomo788
Posted 12:58 PM 21/6/08
@Grimmjow Jeagerjaques: Dude, spoiler alert!
slomo788
Talleh
Posted 12:58 PM 21/6/08
First game with child assassins, I can see it now...
Talleh
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Posted 12:57 PM 21/6/08
was anybody else shocked when we got to see meryl's ripped body? that girl has some really BIG GUNS. I feel sorry for Akiba.
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
StagnatedLives
Posted 12:56 PM 21/6/08
With the events in MGS4, I would like to play as Raiden, the time inbetween mgs2 and 4. However, I feel the game would be more ninja giaden than MGS....Big boss it is!
StagnatedLives
slomo788
Posted 12:55 PM 21/6/08
@Raziel Dune: Yeah i thought about Liquid but then I wrote him off. He's one of the most unidirectional characters in the saga.
slomo788
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Posted 12:55 PM 21/6/08
@JimElNino: yeah, I'd also like to see MG and MG2 remakes on PS3. or another game with Big Boss set in WWII (along The Boss).
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
TheRemedy
Posted 12:55 PM 21/6/08
@Raziel Dune: If they made a Johnny game, half of it would be spent keeping your bowels in check.
TheRemedy
ChemicalWedding
Posted 12:54 PM 21/6/08
@BauerStyle:
This was explained in the encyclopedia thing for MGS4. It's very silly. It involves Area 51.
ChemicalWedding
marmidukestank
Posted 12:53 PM 21/6/08
Just what this franchise needs. More exposition.
marmidukestank
Tom Clancy's Samuraidino
Posted 12:53 PM 21/6/08
Give me a Squad based FOXHOUND game!
Tom Clancy's Samuraidino
Raziel Dune
Posted 12:53 PM 21/6/08
@Shananag0n: lol cause it always happens its like seeing Ironman and the next day going DUDE THE SEQUEL CAN MAYBE KICK ASS. lol
Raziel Dune
everybest
Posted 12:53 PM 21/6/08
@Grave: I second this.
Also, what's wrong with Japanese control methods? Only differences I can come up with is O = Confirm and X = Cancel and vice versa, but I doubt thats what they're referring to.
everybest
BauerStyle
Posted 12:53 PM 21/6/08
anything would be awesome, but if i had to pick a scenario for the next game being made, id have to go with Raiden rescuing Sunny
BauerStyle
Shananag0n
Posted 12:52 PM 21/6/08
why are we already talking about this?
Shananag0n
Raziel Dune
Posted 12:50 PM 21/6/08
@slomo788: indeed while were naming stuff we could also do Liquid's past more. and Ocelot would be a cool char just to play as.
Raziel Dune
ninjaraiden
Posted 12:50 PM 21/6/08
Wouldn't mind a "side story" game where they could tell the tale of Raiden saving Sunny from the Partiots. So many possibilities for prequels.
ninjaraiden
ChemicalWedding
Posted 12:49 PM 21/6/08
@Raziel Dune:
YES the Boss' story has barely been told! It would be so awesome to play through WWII comanding your Cobra Unit and all that.
@slomo788:
He quoted eternalplayer2345 who said we need a Sunny game.
ChemicalWedding
slomo788
Posted 12:48 PM 21/6/08
@Raziel Dune: You forgot Meryl. And I wouldn't mind playing a game as Ocelot. He changed radically between MGS3 and Portable Ops.
slomo788
Blah8
Posted 12:47 PM 21/6/08
So long as doing something like this doesn't hold up Kojima from working on other original games, then I wouldn't mind a bit more Big Boss. And Payton had been talking about the problems with Japanese game development for a while on his podcast for Kojima Productions, so he knows what he's taking about.
Blah8
figlesiase
Posted 12:47 PM 21/6/08
Let's not forget, Naked and Solid snakes aren't the ONLY Snakes out there that have a story.
figlesiase
slomo788
Posted 12:45 PM 21/6/08
@SG79: But there is so little covered in Big Boss's life between Portable Ops and Metal Gear! Plus to me, he's the most interesting character since he's not a pale clone or a enhanced robot. His real fight has been uncovered in MGS4 but we only have a report on that, I'd like to know moar! Plus his debuts under Boss wouldn't be bad either.
@ChemicalWedding: Well I suppose he meant like Meryl, but years after MGS4.
slomo788
Sollus
Posted 12:45 PM 21/6/08
@JimElNino:
EXACTLY. I think Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 could be re-imagined today amazingly but Solid Snakes story is done.
I'd like to play a game that links Portable Ops with Metal Gear
Sollus
riqued
Posted 12:44 PM 21/6/08
@ChemicalWedding: Yep, original Metal Gear remade! Zanzibarland uprising! Awesome!
riqued
Raziel Dune
Posted 12:44 PM 21/6/08
Possible Main Chars
Big Boss
Raiden
Johnny
Hell they could even do one on The Boss. Thats the best thing about having a huge story and many chars you can create offshoots.
Raziel Dune
JohAE86
Posted 12:43 PM 21/6/08
So in for next 50 MGS games, in like flynn. Keep them coming, plot or no plot I'll sit there like a mindless sheeple and just keep on enjoying. I don't foresee MGS4/MGO being out of my main game lineup for a while.
just please, no more metal gear acid. please.
JohAE86
Grave
Posted 12:43 PM 21/6/08
Metal Gear Akiba pls.
Grave
JimElNino
Posted 12:42 PM 21/6/08
What I'd really like to see is remakes of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake done up in the style of the MGS games. I had a lot of fun playing those games on the MGS3:Subsistence disc and I'd like to see them remade and elaborated on.
I realize that a lot of people hate remakes, but I think these games really would benefit from them.
JimElNino
ChemicalWedding
Posted 12:41 PM 21/6/08
I hope they don't do anymore games involving Big Boss. I felt his whole saga was wrapped up so beautifully in MGS4. The only other Metal Gear I'd want would be remakes of MG1 and MG2 with the MGS4 engine.
@suya123:
I hope you're kidding. Sunny is a child, under ten years old. If it is a joke, it's a disgusting one.
ChemicalWedding
SG79
Posted 12:41 PM 21/6/08
@SG79:
* a prequel.
SG79
SG79
Posted 12:40 PM 21/6/08
I'd prefer a sequel with Solid Snake instead. We already have Big Boss as the protagonist in both MGS3 and MGS PO.
SG79
slomo788
Posted 12:40 PM 21/6/08
@AlKusanagi: He said he wouldn't be director anymore, but could still supervise as a producer. He had little to do with Portable Ops and it was still a AAA title.
slomo788
Weirdwolf
Posted 12:40 PM 21/6/08
Is now the time to start the "metal gear solid prequel on next Xbox console" rumour then?
Weirdwolf
AntiZERØ
Posted 12:39 PM 21/6/08
@psyburn: I never played any of the AC!D series, so forgive me
AntiZERØ
slomo788
Posted 12:39 PM 21/6/08
@eternalplayer2345: There are SO many characters that could have their own games.
Basically all that survived and are below 60 (won't say names to not spoil anything). Even those could play in prequels. Plus the ones that are villains now could be protagonists in earlier times, like Big Boss. Metal Gear is potentially the new Final Fantasy. And after MGS4, I'm ready to play ALL 50 of them. Even if they don't improve graphics, just AI and destructible environments.
slomo788
Locke562
Posted 12:39 PM 21/6/08
@eternalplayer2345: Sunny's Egg making. A collection of mini-games for the Wii.
Locke562
AlKusanagi
Posted 12:36 PM 21/6/08
Isn't is also supposed to be Kojima's final MG game as well, though? I think they should just retire the series unless he wants to make more. I shudder to think of it getting whored out like poor Megaman has been over he last several years.
AlKusanagi
suya123
Posted 12:35 PM 21/6/08
@eternalplayer2345: I really wouldn't mind looking at a female's butt while sneaking around.
suya123
slomo788
Posted 12:34 PM 21/6/08
This is absolutely fantastic news, although it's not a promise. I'm already anticipating this.
slomo788
eternalplayer2345
Posted 12:33 PM 21/6/08
we need a sunny game now.
eternalplayer2345
psyburn
Posted 12:33 PM 21/6/08
@AntiZERØ: AC!D2 is not canon.
nanomachines did it. :(
psyburn
kumuasata
Posted 12:33 PM 21/6/08
That's cool if it happens. There's always room for another MGS :x
kumuasata
AntiZERØ
Posted 12:32 PM 21/6/08
@AntiZERØ: Excuse me, Acid 2
AntiZERØ
AntiZERØ
Posted 12:31 PM 21/6/08
What about the clone Snake from Metal Gear Acid?
AntiZERØ
Shalashaska
Posted 1:41 PM 21/6/08
@slomo788: Source? I'm curious. I've never heard that as I've believed it to be because of the protagonist. I always thought it weird that Solid Snake was referred to as Snake whereas Liquid and Solidus Snake were referred to as the prefix.
Shalashaska
slomo788
Posted 1:41 PM 21/6/08
@Grimmjow Jeagerjaques: Lol don't worry about it. It was not intentional and like SG79 said it still has a lot of interpretations. And I finished the game so personally there's no damage ;)
@VishusBurn: Just as cool!!! He was the coolest of them all! Solid was a little too "spoiled" for my taste. He can't even eat rats! And he didn't lose an eye like Naked did! Big Boss is the shiznits!
slomo788
karnsatron
Posted 1:38 PM 21/6/08
I'd like to see a game revolving around the Boss as well. They claim Big Boss was the ultimate soldier, but he only beat her because she let him. And I know it's in her story, but I'd keep it as far away from WWII as I could.
Another good storyline would a Raiden game telling what the hell happened to his body. I found it funny that everyone complained about playing as him in MGS2(me included), so Kojima made him into a complete badass.
karnsatron
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Posted 1:33 PM 21/6/08
@slomo788: SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
VishusBurn
Posted 1:32 PM 21/6/08
I would love to play more as Naked Snake/Big Boss.
He was just as cool as Solid Snake and his story needs more explanation.
VishusBurn
Sparx
Posted 1:32 PM 21/6/08
I'd prefer we move on with a new generation of characters. Use Johnny or another new soldier and let Sunny be his support (like Otacon was to Snake) and then fill in from there.
Sparx
Kanik
Posted 1:28 PM 21/6/08
I can only see one game coming out to bridge together the story...the game that shows exactly what it was that led Big Boss to just snap and decide to create Outer Heaven. Portable Ops and MGS3 show what influenced him but he still remains the American loyalist at the end of both. I want to see him actually question his beliefs...and then shoot some people up too! Plus, I wanna see him react to the internet. (Surf the web, surf the web!)
And then after the game is released Kojima will jump shark and reveal that there are 4 others Big Boss clones running around...suddenly "Snake's Revenge" will be canon.
Kanik
beezley
Posted 1:27 PM 21/6/08
coming to a 360 near you ;) oh dear what did i just say :0
beezley
kingme
Posted 1:19 PM 21/6/08
@Frank: He became Big Boss during Operation Snake Eater, if you want to know how, then play Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
kingme
kingme
Posted 1:18 PM 21/6/08
but i want more solid snake!!! how about metal gear and metal gear 2 remakes!!!
kingme
rexor0717
Posted 2:05 PM 21/6/08
SPOILER SPOILERS!
I wanted to see a Sunny and Hispanic kid with MK.II! And Raiden's kid. MGS BABIES! ROFL!
rexor0717
AndroidKing
Posted 2:03 PM 21/6/08
Kojima should definitely take a Miyamoto role on the next MGS. Let his underlings fill out the Big Boss story while he is more focused on something else. Really a Big Boss story would just be a part of Solid Snakes story with no real impact on the whole completed saga. That's not to say it wouldn't be a great game and have a great story it just doesn't need Kojima's full attention. He's freed himself from MGS by wrapping up most everything he put on the table. Which actually makes me think maybe Kojima was trying to escape his fate like Liquid.
AndroidKing
slomo788
Posted 2:03 PM 21/6/08
@Grimmjow Jeagerjaques: Lol yeah. And it helps that Johnny is not as rough as Snake ;) I was anticipating another revelation regarding Johnny, especially because of his appearance and Meryl's relationship with him... An interesting character anyways, that Johnny.
slomo788
Koztah
Posted 2:02 PM 21/6/08
A Metal Gear starring Meryl would be awesome, IMO.
Or a Snatcher remake/sequel.
Koztah
Sparx
Posted 1:57 PM 21/6/08
@Zerbrechen:
No worries, although surely the could've had another codename than Boss
There's no doubt Kojima is a genius. There's no way the story was all laid out in the begining so being able to tie all that stuff together into a big web like that is nothing short of amazing.
Sparx
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Posted 1:56 PM 21/6/08
@Cool Dude: Yes, ZOE3.
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Posted 1:56 PM 21/6/08
@slomo788: it's funny I mean, Meryl's strong and built. and don't forget she beat the crap out of Johnny and stripped him naked in the original MGS. and when you finish MGS4...I'll leave that to your imagination.
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Cool Dude
Posted 1:52 PM 21/6/08
it's time for ZOE3
Cool Dude
Zerbrechen
Posted 1:50 PM 21/6/08
@Sparx: Whoops... Still, no more MGS XD
Kojima's a genius, anyway- can't he come up with an all new super-fantastique storyline?
Zerbrechen
Sparx
Posted 1:48 PM 21/6/08
@Zerbrechen:
Uhh...they're talking about "Big" Boss, not "The" Boss
I think you got your characters mixed up there.
Sparx
AndroidKing
Posted 1:47 PM 21/6/08
They definitely shouldn't make any more Solid Snake games and using Big Boss is an acceptable way to have pretty much Solid Snake in a new game just not really. And I think it's like a 30 year gap they have to work with between portable ops and outer heaven. So they have plenty of wiggle room.
Raiden saving sunny should be in the MGS4 directors cut (somethingstence). Along with a straight remake of the original Metal Gears. I'm talking eye in the sky point of view, no first person mode, and keep everything as was except graphics and cut scenes. Otherwise they will just have to make a new game cause fighting the machine gun kid will be lame. Make the fight with Grey Fox like the one with Liquid though. Screw the top down view for that, cinematize that bitch.
AndroidKing
JustThisGuy
Posted 1:46 PM 21/6/08
Oh, for fuck's sake! Just kill it! Kill it already! The narrative is finished; it wrapped up quite nicely. I really wish that devs and pubs had the taste to just end a good story on a high note, instead of milking it out for every single last dime its worth.
Unless, of course, they're going to pull a Final Fantasy, and make all the games unrelated, sharing only a few key commonalities. I could live with that.
JustThisGuy
Zerbrechen
Posted 1:46 PM 21/6/08
@karnsatron: The boss was cool, but having a game based on her is almost ridiculous (which is the brink MGS teeters on each iteration XD). How far back in time do we need to go?
A game based off of Raiden would be awesome, though. It could produce much more insight into his character while simultaneously being a game that only I would buy XD. Maybe it could be Ninja Gaidenish for the DS?
What I think it's time for is a new IP. He doesn't have to abandon MGS completely, but put it down for, like, 5 years.
You know... some IPs don't necessarily have to be entirely new. *hopes for Zone of the Enders 3*
Zerbrechen
xCruciaLx
Posted 2:21 PM 21/6/08
We will be getting a "MGS4: ******nce" first.
Ya know, Substance, Substinence right ?
Though I would like to have a Metal Gear Raiden. After what he did in MGS4, he deserve a game title.
I know MGS2 is like MGR, but I would like to see what happen to Raiden after the Big Shell.
That Badass really deserve it IMO.
:D
xCruciaLx
k_dash
Posted 2:12 PM 21/6/08
@Grave: Are you serious? Fuck Akiba.
k_dash
Sparx
Posted 2:10 PM 21/6/08
@rexor0717:
Dude great idea, somehow Jackie Jr never even crossed my mind as being a candidate for the next hero. But him and Sunny together would make for a great base.
Sparx
Green-clad Gamer Dude
Posted 2:57 PM 21/6/08
I wonder if the next game will also have...wait for it........NANOMACHINES.
Green-clad Gamer Dude
Replica23
Posted 2:51 PM 21/6/08
After the greatness that is MGS4 released, I'd be down.
Replica23
suya123
Posted 2:42 PM 21/6/08
@ChemicalWedding: Whoa Whoa Whoa, I meant as in when she grows up, or female characters in general. That would just be plain creepy, sorry that I didn't be more specific.
suya123
IntelSilver
Posted 2:37 PM 21/6/08
@Grave:
We need that as a special mode
IntelSilver
rhugghed
Posted 3:24 PM 21/6/08
I wouldn't mind another MG game with Big Boss and his "new team".
Plus, I heard a rumor about Metal Gear Ocelot. I would love to play as young Ocelot in his own backstory.
rhugghed
nickmasterx
Posted 3:16 PM 21/6/08
Metal Gear: Roy Cambell
nickmasterx
Erion04
Posted 3:11 PM 21/6/08
More Big Boss backstory you say? See: Portable Ops 2.
Erion04
bobtheduck
Posted 3:00 PM 21/6/08
@Green-clad Gamer Dude: Dear lord, not another meme or attempt at one...
I prefer "Metal Gear?"
bobtheduck
TheIrishNinja
Posted 3:42 PM 21/6/08
after 3 and portable ops, im all for more Big Boss action. hell, bridge the gap between ops and the original Metal Gear, that'd be an awesome story right there, and not nearly as weighted with being an opus either.
TheIrishNinja
AndroidKing
Posted 4:08 PM 21/6/08
@NighTrekr: I agree so they should go back and have an amazing ending for what sent him over the edge then never go back to Big Boss again.
AndroidKing
NighTrekr
Posted 4:01 PM 21/6/08
After a moving and satisfying ending to MGS3, I hoped they would never ruin what they had accomplished by revisiting the character of Big Boss. And then they went and made Portable Ops.
It wouldn't surprise me if they went back for another game starring BB. But I'm personally hoping for remakes of the first two MG games.
NighTrekr
Reetesh
Posted 4:34 PM 21/6/08
I hope there will be a Raiden game where we do the thing where he rescues sunny and stuff..
and it will be a Ninja game! Something close to Ninja gaiden!
It would be awesome to see how they do it. and what if Itagaki becomes the advisor or something for that :o
Reetesh
Akiraa20
Posted 4:31 PM 21/6/08
and the milking begins
Akiraa20
excaliburps
Posted 4:15 PM 21/6/08
Hey nobody is crucifying Kojima and co. for maybe releasing a new MGS game! Woohoo! I,personally am all for it. As long as the production values,game mechanics are good, why not?
That said, I haven't played MGS4 yet...Though I do want Kojima to do what he wants to do. Maybe after he's done the game he wants to do he can work on this one?
excaliburps
VishusBurn
Posted 6:04 PM 21/6/08
@Akiraa20: Oh STFU.
When you make a great product and people are crying for more, it isn't milking;
It's delivering.
VishusBurn
Antiterra
Posted 7:17 PM 21/6/08
Add me to the list of "I want a Raiden game", chronicling his journey from human to cybernetic devil.
Storywise, there are many gaps to fill in (Sunny's rescue, Big Mama), and his physical change could allow for an interesting gameplay paradigm shift halfway through the game.
Ocelot could be interesting as a character, but I'm not sure about the gameplay. Considering what we now know about his true motivations, the most intriguing part of his life would be between the end of MGS1 and MGS4. But since he has a huge organisation at his command, why would he get his hands dirty?
A young Ocelot would present the same challenge in terms of gameplay: wouldn't it be just a guy with a revolver? If they add crazy new moves and weapons, then it wouldn't feel like Ocelot anymore.
Oh, well, as long as it's the usual MGS quality, I'd play as Drebin's monkey.
@AndroidKing: Unless he really can't help himself when production on MGS5 starts, everything suggests Kojima will distance himself from the franchise.
He said more than once that his team was perfectly capable of creating an MGS game without him.
MGS4 needed Kojima at the helm to tie everything up, but now that he has established a precise chronology spanning 50 years, others can either play within that timeline, or start afresh in the "new world" post-MGS4.
Antiterra
metallicorphan
Posted 7:04 PM 21/6/08
i would very much like to see remakes of metal gear 1 and metal gear 2(not MGS1 and MGS2)that first appeared on the NES/MSX
they sound as though they could be great games on current gen,or maybe even PSP..they are set before metal gear solid 1 and they introduce us to solid snake,and the bad guy is big boss!!!....how cool could these remakes be
metallicorphan
Leepox
Posted 6:43 PM 21/6/08
Raiden please... and akiba... i wanna play that farting young man
Leepox
NESv1
Posted 7:39 PM 21/6/08
Am I the only one who wants Metal Gear Liquid? Luiquid Snake had a lot of war-adventures himself. I say we start exploring the life of Liquid Snake.
NESv1
AllOfUsAreLost
Posted 7:33 PM 21/6/08
Metal Gear: Grey Fox?
Play as Frank Jaeger, lots of chances to throw Snake and co. into the cameo fold, and then for the final third of the game, you are a hardcore Ninja.
Plus then there can be even moooar bits of older levels made prettier/grittier.
AllOfUsAreLost
Candlejack
Posted 8:43 PM 21/6/08
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
I LOVE Big Boss!
Candlejack
zetopazio
Posted 9:02 PM 21/6/08
Nothing against Big Boss but playing with him is like playing with Snake again, Konami should have the courage to move foward and not be afraid of use another main character and let rest the "snake family" finally!
zetopazio
Nereos
Posted 8:53 PM 21/6/08
That would feel like a step back though... You wouldn't have Octocamo, Solid Eye, and probably not a Radar either. Still, i suppose MGS 3 survived...
Nereos
dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased
Posted 9:46 PM 21/6/08
Let Solid Snake rest. He's had a long 20 years and he deserves to go down as nothing less than legendary. Each time out from here has massive potential cheapen the epic conclusion that MGS4 is.
More Metal Gear? Bring it on. Do something different.
dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased
Ryuujin1024
Posted 9:30 PM 21/6/08
Call it a day Konami, call it a day.
Ryuujin1024
Sam Smith
Posted 9:27 PM 21/6/08
I myself would prefer the story continued... there's lots of young characters with potential. Sunny perhaps, or Raiden's son. Basically, I just want more Otacon. And Johnny Sasaki. I can only dream of a game where you play Johnny.
Sam Smith
Iramaj1
Posted 10:08 PM 21/6/08
They should do one about The Boss and her story.
Iramaj1
Candlejack
Posted 9:55 PM 21/6/08
Why would anyone in the world want to play as Johnny? Or Raiden's son? Or any other random dude?
I'm telling you now it would suck because it'd be Raiden MGS2 all over again. I don't want to live through that another time. -_-
The thing about the real protagonists of MGS is that they are either a legendary soldier or clones of a legendary soldier. Not just Joe Everybody.
If you take away the Snakes from MGS, you turn the franchise into a generic fight against evil, be it a Metal Gear or not. It'll be just like any other action game that involves a bit of stealth. The Snakes are what makes it unique.
Candlejack
3292k4
Posted 4:10 PM 21/6/08
How about a Remake of the MSX games?
3292k4
YUYU
Posted 11:17 PM 21/6/08
FEMALE LEAD, BITCHES.
But if their doing another prequel, I'd rather it be about The Boss, and let us command the cobra unit before they got all old and stuff. Lots of sexual tension between her and The Sorrow.
MAKE IT HAPPEN, KONAMI.
DO EET.
YUYU
okrangerbob
Posted 12:08 AM 22/6/08
Comon make a 360 version please ;)
okrangerbob
Proto_Man
Posted 12:43 AM 22/6/08
Metal Gear Gray: Ass-kicking Cyborg-Ninja Action
Proto_Man
Vidril
Posted 12:39 AM 22/6/08
GOOD GO YES! MGS3 was easily the 2nd best in the series (MGS4 quite obviously being the 1st), I would love to play BB again he's the best! Also I would love to see the old characters coming back, like young ocelot for instance. ;D
Vidril
kiigan
Posted 1:02 AM 22/6/08
The overal Metal Gear saga has run its course now in my opinion. Plot-wise, it was a bloody mess and it'd be a real shame if future Metal Gear games remained prisoner to the narrative of the previous titles. I'd welcome more Metal Gear games, but it's time for a new start, a new story IMO.
kiigan
Candlejack
Posted 12:58 AM 22/6/08
@okrangerbob: Shut up. If you were a Metal Gear fan you would have beaten the game by now and would know that PLAYSTATION goes far more into MGS4 than just a joke about multi disc sets. The game couldn't exist on other consoles even if they could easily handle it from the technological perspective.
End of story.
I can't understand how you can be so ignorant. Even if you're trying to be funny, that joke died precisely on the 12th of June, 2008. Get the bloody hint.
Candlejack
EnigmaNemesis
Posted 1:41 AM 22/6/08
Not reading any comments until I beat 4, but this is exciting news if true!!!!!!!
EnigmaNemesis
Roto13
Posted 1:25 AM 22/6/08
I'd buy it. I thing Naked Snake's story in MGS 3 was great.
Roto13
chenry
Posted 2:28 AM 22/6/08
everyone is gay for Big Boss
chenry
screamingslave
Posted 2:56 AM 22/6/08
Although I felt the series was ended perfectly and another game starring any prominent Metal Gear characters would feel, I don't know, disrespectful? Unfair maybe is a better word (they all earned a rest), I wouldn't be too opposed to another Big Boss games if done correctly.
Snake Eater showed the most important event in his life, Portal Ops was about the formation of the idea of an Outer Heaven, but there is room for a little more, I agree - especially after what you learn in MGS4. Heck, you could even just do an "all gameplay" MGS about the years he just warred around the world working for whoever, building the legend of Big Boss.
screamingslave
skullkid
Posted 3:56 AM 22/6/08
Make it about Ocelot between MGS3 and MGS1. There's a massive hole there, PLUS they could change the gameplay a fair amount so that it doesn't get old like it has for the GTA series.
skullkid
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Posted 3:27 AM 22/6/08
@chenry: Ditto, or Solid Snake(before aging, seriously who doesn't love that mullet in MGS2?)...or Liquid Snake (no not liquid ocelot).
Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
Highlander Wolf
Posted 4:07 AM 22/6/08
(just finished MGS4 last night - OMFG, amazing ending)
Definitely room for sequels. And remakes. There are huge chunks of story not yet told:
* First meeting of Big Boss and Snake? Remake of the original Metal Gear?
* MGS2, from Snake's perspective? Play Big Shell as Snake?
* Raiden's story between the events of MGS2 and MGS4?
* Prequel with The Boss, in the WWII era?
...and of course they can go Clone-crazy and put Snake in any point in the future. Solid Snake in Spaaaace! Zero-gravity stealth action!
Highlander Wolf
Arttemis
Posted 4:28 AM 22/6/08
A continuation of the series set after MGS4 would just be ridiculous.
I'd lose faith in the series if Johnny were to actually continue to contribute to a story he shouldn't have had an impact on to begin with.
*Spoilers*
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The ideologies formed as a result of The Boss's death have died off at the end of MGS4. There's no need to continue forward --- the last of the Patriots are dead, its AIs destroyed, and Solid Snake will be joining them shortly.
Let the saga end there.
There's an enormous amount of story to fill in gaps, though. I wouldn't mind seeing non-MGSolid plots revolving around:
The Boss
Cobra Unit
Korean War (The Boss and 'Naked Snake' before MGS3)
Big Boss (between MGS:PO - MG)
Remake MG & MG2
Ocelot (between MGS:PO - MGS)
Remake MGS:Mobile on an actual console (events between MGS1 & 2)
Raiden (between MGS2 - MGS4)
Arttemis
Candlejack
Posted 5:43 AM 22/6/08
@Arttemis: Not to mention Big Boss redeemed himself in the end. Puts him in another light, even after MGS3.
I say, give us more of Liquid Snake or Big Boss. I mean, Liquid Snake having worked for the British government must have been on the "good" side at one point. Why not make an MGS3-esque game about him before he turns "bad"?
Candlejack
Arttemis
Posted 6:35 AM 22/6/08
@Candlejack: Ah, you're completely right!
And I can't believe I forgot about Liquid Snake! His actions in the Gulf War could be highlighted.
The creation of the MGS1 Fox Hound unit would be pretty interesting - especially since Big Boss had influenced many of their lives (Sniper Wolf, Vulcan Raven, Liquid, Ocelot).
*Spoilers*
According to the Database, it was Ocelot who convinced Liquid Snake to act on his desires to supersede his father. It would be interesting to see how that came to be.
Arttemis
killer_meatballs
Posted 7:12 AM 22/6/08
All great ideas. The possibilities, are mind bottleing!!!
I'd love to see one with The Boss as the lead, or Big Boss. Or Raiden, or Meryl.
OK, I just really, really, want more Metal Gear!!
killer_meatballs
Xeogred
Posted 12:20 PM 22/6/08
@NESv1: Dude, YES. As long as they get Cam Clarke for this voice work of course. But yeah, it'd be interesting to see things through his eyes for once.
Xeogred
DELICIOUS BUNNY
Posted 7:08 PM 22/6/08
MGS5 will be The Joy/The Boss developing CQC and fighting in WWII and other wars up to 1964. That's totally Infinity Ward territory there, I'm sorry.
DELICIOUS BUNNY
Q80
Posted 10:29 PM 22/6/08
It should be a remake of the MSX version:P
Q80
zerojad
Posted 3:54 AM 23/6/08
If that would be Metal Gear Solid: Outer Heaven, couting the stories from Big Boss on creating Outer Heaven, recruiting Sniper Wolf (as young), maybe till the arrive of Solid Snake on Operation: Intrude N313. :D
OR maybe Metal Gear Liquid. xD
zerojad
Hyena
Posted 8:05 AM 23/6/08
Johnny Sasaki is...Gaseous Snake!
Hyena
gencid
Posted 4:25 AM 24/6/08
Personally I think the whole series needs a break. We need Kojima gto ive us new masterpieces and not get eaten by a single franchise. One project that I would really want to see would be Zone of the Enders 3. A brand new IP for either PS3/X360 would be great too. I don't want to see any casual/waggle/handheld crap from Kojima Productions though.
gencid