Nice to see that everything's on track for a PS3 slim, which is about when I'll be ready to buy one.

Interstella5555

@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.:

I think he was being sarcastic because they dropped the 60 gig which had the best PS2 support, and now they're making even more changes so chances are they'll drop another feature.

NeoAkira

I love how "introducing more new and exciting titles" is in bold...and at the bottom of the list for some reason.

At least it's on the grocery list.

Deft_One

@Nihon no Purin: Believe me, they're quiet already. You have no idea how silent these things are.

@Arsenicberyllium: Point taken.

Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.

This is a neat touch, but seeing as the current model doesn't really have a problem with noise or heat, it's really just good news for Sony's bottom line-- which is great for them. It just doesn't do much for us.

If this was the 360, though, man-- I'd really welcome a cooler, quieter system. Great games, but that thing is like a chainsaw when it's running. A chainsaw that's on fire.

wild homes has particularly attractive fries today

@noodles90: lol

thefragilenin

They should redesign the whole system while they are at it, ze PS3 is BIG as hell.

I would buy a PS3 slim.

(俗・ ) Grey Gecko

I personally don't have a PS3 yet, just using my friends since hes staying with us and all. But I will probably get one this fall if anything.

Chaospluto

@noodles90:
:O How did you know my 360 is next to my PS3?? Lol, and yeah, the 360 is worse than the Dreamcast as far as noise goes.

CorrinZGW

@Nihon no Purin: The Ps3 is silent. I've left mine running for twelve hours straight without it making a sound. Just keep yours. There's no problem with noise.
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: It's pretty obvious that this guy is just looking for trouble. All Rick Astley avatars are.

Arsenicberyllium

"Accelerating cost down" Say what?

I've heard of cutting costs, pursuing economies of scale, increasing profitability, but "accelerating costs down???"

That just sounds counter-intuitive. Paradoxical even.

DugDawg

@CorrinZGW: It will ABSORB noise! That loud 360 next to it? The PS3 will vreate a vortex and absorb the sounds from the loud fans

noodles90

@Nihon no Purin:
I bought a PS3 two weeks ago. It makes zero noise. I don't see what waiting for the newer model will do for noise reduction.

CorrinZGW

@archibaldleech: Heres hoping you never reproduce =D

I still have PS1 games dammit!!!!!

Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.

Wait, so I should hold off buying the MSG pack? AARgh! This BETTER be backwards compatible Kaz.

Luis

arg, I'm in a dilemma.
Get a PS3 now while it's still bulky and with the features I want.
Or wait for when they update and possible slim it and possible take out features...

noodles90

65nm? That's bigger than my.. nvm.

kumuasata

This doesn't mean that this "new" ps3 is going to have features that aren't on the "old" ps3 does it? Kinda like they did with the psp.

Pyro Jack

How about bullet #1 go like this;
"Redesign this ugly system"

PITwelve

ARGH do i open my 80g MGS4 bundle, or do i wait for the deliciously quiet 65nm systems??

Nihon no Purin

I like bullet #3.

Wolfers

Nice, let's hope they drop another feature with these new PS3. I'm hoping for no more PS1 support!

archibaldleech

Wooh! Sell more PS3's!

McKenney

*Yawn* I'm running a 45 nanometer processor in my PC.

D4RK_53K70R

@psychobaka: And they want to compente against the ati4850 and the new nvidia line...

TOCATL

@D3m0n1k_Ang3l:

The graphics should be identical. Shrinking the chip shouldn't have an impact on visuals. It's a cost cutting move, and also one that will make the system run cooler and more efficient power-wise.

LittleBigPlaneteer

NEW and EXCITING!

Earthjade

PC has been in 45nm for a while now. Kinda anticlimactic.

psychobaka

Just to add to my last comment, when my PS2 started messing up i sold it for $145 and was going to buy another one, but then they started comming out with the PS2 slim, which was WAY to slim, and that turned me off to it...As a matter of fact, why do they even redesign there consoles peroid? they did with the PSX and that one I diddnt like either, then the PS2, which they completey fucked up by making it way to slim...i really hope they dont redisgn the PS3(though im sure they will) and late adopters dont get screwed out of a crappy very breakable PS3 like what happened with the PS2...-_-

D3m0n1k_Ang3l

@(俗・ ) Grey Gecko: As long as they dont make it as crappy as the PS2 slim i'd probably like it, but really i love the way the PS3 looks right now, its freaking awesome lol

on that note, does that mean that the PS3's that are out now wont have as good a graphics as the PS3's with this new chip? I got one on layaway at k-mart (and will be getting it next week once the house sells) and was wondering if the games on the console im getting next week wont look at good as the consoles comming out this fall... (sorry if it posts this 3 times...its not showing up on the site, even when i give it a lil time...)

D3m0n1k_Ang3l

@(俗・ ) Grey Gecko: As long as they dont make it as crappy as the PS2 slim i'd probably like it, but really i love the way the PS3 looks right now, its freaking awesome lol

on that note, does that mean that the PS3's that are out now wont have as good a graphics as the PS3's with this new chip? I got one on layaway at k-mart (and will be getting it next week once the house sells) and was wondering if the games on the console im getting next week wont look at good as the consoles comming out this fall...

D3m0n1k_Ang3l

@ReadNLearn:

I really don't think you'll ever see a built in IR receiver. They'd be very little use for it other than for things like a universal remote. You think that's enough to warrant Sony adding such a component? Especially with their goal of "reducing the number of components"? Nope, never going to happen.

Just get the Nyko Blu-wave. It works just fine.

LittleBigPlaneteer

I've been hoping for an announcement like this since this article: [kotaku.com]

I've been thinking about buying the MGS4 bundle, but I don't know anything about MGS so I haven't really been in a rush. I'll hold out until this new hardware now. Hopefully it will be in a bundle with LittleBigPlanet and two dual-shock controllers. I'd love if it is smaller too, and I have heat concerns with my cabinet setup currently, so the smaller and more heat efficient they can make it all, the better.

What I would also really like to see is an IR receiver. Like, so you can use a universal remote with it when you're watching movies and whatnot. From what I understand there are some after-market solutions, but it would be much nicer if it just had that support built-in. I refuse to buy the Sony blue-tooth remote control. I put considerable money and effort into setting up my entire theater system to use one RF/IR universal remote.

ReadNLearn

I'm still waiting waiting waiting for a slim-PS3 that does not look like a George Foreman Grill...

Prexo

@D4RK_53K70R:

*yawn* no one gives a shit

LittleBigPlaneteer

BTW, where does it say "this fall" in the story?

Nullzero

Tough decisions indeed.

Sony needs to just stick with one SKU. Sony is going for the traditional hardcore market from last generation... which is a fine strategy. But that hardcore crowd is savvy. We know there are different features between the SKUs. We keep up w/ the news and know more SKUs are on the way. I don't know anyone who will spend $500 bucks knowing a better model will be coming out in 4 months.

Sony's SKU system is a cluster-fuck.

Nullzero

They're gonna release ANOTHER FREAKING PS3?!?!?!? Ermm... excuse me.

I don't care what games comes out, I'm not buying a PS3 till they stick with one freaking model longer than 6 months. God sony, get your crap together.

Zhemos

People stating they should wait till next fall or fall should learn to read...

Quote from article above.

"Kaz noted in his corporate strategy speech earlier today that the Cell processor has been manufactured with 65nm process technology as of "last holiday."

That above means simply since the christmas holiday season that just passed. So those of you with the new MGS4 Bundle have the new 65nm chip.

gnudna

@psychobaka: Yes, but were talking GPUs here, even the just released HD 4850 just got down to 55nm, and nvidia's new GTX 280 is still a 65nm, so its not like they are doing this half ass its really an improvement over the previous 90nm chip.

katboi

A lot of you guys are misinformed about what the die shrink to 65nm will entail. First off, only the RSX chip will be shrinking; the Cell was already shrunk (90nm to 65nm) going from the old 20/60GB models to the new 80/40GB models. The Cell and its SPEs take up a lot more room than the RSX, and there was no redesign of the system.

Shrinking the die of the RSX means that they'll save a few millimeters in the dimensions of something that's already only a couple of thumbnails in area and wafer thin.

What this means is lower power consumption, which leads to lower heat needing to be dissipated, which means a possibly quieter system, all the while reducing costs for Sony. The system itself will look and have the same features as any other PS3. It's not going to magically allow more stuff, just like the Cell shrink didn't do anything of that sort.

cowondinosaur

@LittleBigPlaneteer:
You're probably right that they won't add it. No real benefit to them, and they'd canibalize their own remote control sales.

That Nyko remote looks like an option too. Of course, all I really want is the little USB IR Receiver though. I'd just hook that up to my RF IR-Blaster and I'm good to go. I wonder if those are possible to acquire individually?

ReadNLearn

@gnudna: That above means simply since the christmas holiday season that just passed. So those of you with the new MGS4 Bundle have the new 65nm chip.

Your quote is referring to the Cell processor. This new announcement is regarding the RSX graphics processor. Different things. So, the freshest hardware is still to come this fall. This is probably isn't that significant to most people since it's not like there is a graphical upgrade or anything like that. But for myself at least it is worth waiting a few more months for.

ReadNLearn

@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: Hmm, it would seem your inability to read obvious sarcasm would convince me that you, in fact, are the one unfit for reproduction.

archibaldleech

The question is will Sony want to keep bleeding here? They lost 3.3 billion on the ps3 now, and executives must be asking at what point do they realize that they likely will not make any money on the ps3?

The numbers are they lost 2.16 billion in 2007, and in 2008 they lost 1.16 billion. I see why they are doing the big PR dance right now, since these huge losses just came out with their annual report. These numbers are making a lot of people nervous. (if they don't turn around..there will not be a ps4 IMHO).

Super Turtle

SuperTurtle

The best news for me is that this should lead to lower power consumption. That's a real factor for me as electricity costs money, and I already have an HD TV that is a real power hog (I noticed my bills increase noticeably after getting it). Nice to know that when I eventually get a PS3 it'll be cheaper to run.

Kazzahdrane

Great. PS3 model #300056

Agent-Foiliage

@SuperTurtle: I might be wrong here but it was my understanding that both MS and Sony loose money on each console sold. And that it has been like that and will be like that. They make money of the games not the systems. So if now they'll just loose less money, no?

julians

@Nihon no Purin:

Yeah, I know, same quandary here.

I ask you, Kotakuites; should I order an MGS4 bundle, or hold out for the 65nm PS3?

man_in_gauze

I'm all for it, I just hope they don't plan on region locking it (even though it isn't) and drop backwards compatibility. And they'd better not forget to increase harddrive capacity!

Angryrider

@DugDawg: It's probably Japanese business slang that they didn't bother translating because it still kind of makes sense in English. Just as you can level-up your character in an RPG, and level-up your secure data communications offering, no doubt you can also cost-down your manufacturing process.

Back here in English English, even though we're now used to verbing nouns, you still can't combine random words to make a new verb like that one without it looking silly. But if you intersect 'Japanese' and 'business-speak', cost-downing something (costing-down something?) seems perfectly acceptable.

@cowondinosaur: Yes, but if they keep reducing power consumption, they can also reduce the size of coolers and PSU (which they are already doing internally, I think). If they also reducing the count of auxiliary chips and other components by combining functions, at some point in a few yeasrs they'll have the capability to make a smaller version of the system, like they did with the last one.

At least I hope so. It's kind of big at the moment so I'm hoping for a smaller one before I buy it...

quen

My original 60GB isn't all that quiet after 15 minutes of gaming. My bro's 40GB is, however.

Obli

How about putting BC chip back in Sony? I'm sure that will save you more money (due to higher sales) than shrinking down components.

gencid

Plus: 17.3% more FLOPS!

How exciting... not.

lumpi

Yeah I'm all about the BC as well, and the rumble (which they addressed) but one thing I'd like to see on the BC is high res 1080p ps1 and ps2 games ... you know like bleem! does.

hollowfreak

Nice. If hard drives are transferrable from one PS3 to another(with all game saves intact) then by the time they shrink it down and give it the slim treatment maybe I'll re-invest in a new, meaner unit, just because a cooler running console is a longer lasting console!

The lower power consumption will come in handy down the road too.

fenderfuel08

@PITwelve:
360 needs that. Looks too much like a maxi pad

InfiniteZr0

@DugDawg: He's not completely making up terms. A "cost down" is a term used to describe re-releasing a chip using a cheaper (normally meaning smaller) process. Although there are no major design changes in terms of functionality, there is still some work involved. In other words, "accelerating cost down efforts" just means working faster to release cheaper chips.

p.s. i went through the bother of actually creating an account because after reading kotaku for awhile, i actually have a useful comment. i bet as soon as i submit, i'll see 20 responses before mine saying the same thing.

anonymouskoward