@phoneykiller it would be cool if there wasn't a hardware war with it. I can't believe they make a profit off instruments, so in general it's just stupid. I just don't see the logic of splitting their market when they could have it all.

lonkley

@AgainstOne:
Harmonix has already said that RB DLC would work with RB2. And there's no way that GH/GH2 DLC could work with any other versions of the game. Two completely different developers working with two completely different code.

Lazlo

@phoneykiller: what you say

Jeff Paine

well i think this will be better than rock band its kinda cool how we have the music games war now i mean rock band struck first and then gh world tour came back strong now its time to see what rock band can pull out to be better then this.

phoneykiller

@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: I decided to downgrade my affection instead.

hodayathink: I like neo-noir lesbians

I think GH: Aerosmith, in a way is just an expansion like Rock the 80s. Its worth it if you really like Aerosmith or the 80s but I can live without that version of GH. Good to hear that our downloads aren't worthless.

Jacktherip

The next question is whether the in-game store for the Wii version will be seeded with all the GH3 stuff.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

Oh! and I almost stoped DLC for GH all together!

How awsome.

Bboboo

Well thats great!

excel_excel

Based on their marketing push I don't think Activision can answer that question either.

Nobuyuki

Is there any source? Or is M.C. Whertor now calling shots for Activision?

Funkofages

@hodayathink: I <3 neo-noir lesbians: Change it to &lt;

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

@AgainstOne: Isnt that the point?

(俗・ ) Grey Gecko

You should actually be able to put the PS2 disc of GH or GHII/III and rip songs from it, that would kick ass... but they will prefer to have you pay to get them again through DLC obviously...

Mokona

@Blah8: Well, I'd never noticed that. I'll see what I can do about it.

hodayathink: I like neo-noir lesbians

@Blah8: Yup, the "less than" sign screws it up

Jeff Paine

@Blah8: you're not the only one. seems that happens to everyone who replies to him.

AgainstOne

I'd buy the Aerosmith one because I like Aerosmith and am also a whore for Guitar Hero.

KirkDouglas

@hodayathink: I :
Augh, your username screwed up the HTML in my post...

Blah8

it shouldn't be GH2 dlc and GH3 dlc. it should just be GH-related dlc. any version of GH that supports dlc should be able to play any GH-related dlc. hopefully that's the way they'll do it in RB, though.

AgainstOne

@hodayathink: I :
I'd imagine that they would just be guitar tracks, though it would be impressive if they actually went back and "upgraded" each one.

This is a feature that needed to be in the game. The same goes for the sequel to Rock Band - it wouldn't make any sense for all of those tracks put out thus far to be incompatible with future versions.

Blah8

Probably just the guitar will be playable on gh3 songs.

pcgecko85

Wait a minute, I thought Konami tried to do this with DDR Universe/DDR Universe 2 and Microsoft told them they couldn't do that?

Anyways, the real question is, will they ever make Dream On downloadable again for those of us who missed it?

Jeff Paine

@hodayathink: I :

Guitar

LittleBigPlaneteer

Wait, how is that going to work? Are they going to add the additional instruments, or is this just going to be something you can play on guitar?

hodayathink: I like neo-noir lesbians

Too. Many. Guitar Hero's. Period. Seriously, they're going to flood the marketplace with all these titles, confuse consumers and in the end potentially lose money to people that may have bought ALL these games, if they were spaced out more intelligently.

ThisCharmingMan

So is it all instruments? Or just guitar? Because I really want to play the Halo Theme and The Pretender by Foo Fighters on Drums!!

kingme

@AgainstOne: Neversoft didn't have access to any of the code in GHI and GHII. They had to write GH3 from scratch, which explains why it seems rushed and terrible.

mind in rewind

@KirkDouglas: Yep, same. Sad, but true.

In order to make myself feel like I have a little control over this hideous adiction, I reassure myself that I would never, ever buy Guitar Hero: Nickelback.

Ugh. I'm feeling the bile rise just thinking of it.

freakout

@King Seafoam: They will work, according to Harmonix.

mind in rewind

"...which begs the question "Why would you buy Guitar Hero: Aerosmith?""

The existence of 'Guitar Hero: Aerosmith' begs the question "Why would you buy Guitar Hero: Aerosmith?"

elpierce

@Lazlo: actually, that's completely untrue. red octane holds the rights to GH2, even though harmonix developed it. because they hold the rights, they have access to the technical knowledge of how the DLC songs are formatted. that's all neversoft needs to know to make any GH games they produce compatible with the GH2 dlc.

furthermore, neversoft developed GH3 themselves, so they already know the format for GH3 dlc songs. this is all they need to know to make any future GH games compatible with GH3 dlc. so they have the knowledge to make GH3 dlc cross-compatible and they have access to the knowledge to make GH2 dlc cross-compatible.

ok, the above was all just to refute your bogus claim, but what i was originally alluding to in my first post was that red octane should have come up with and stuck to a common format for all dlc. if they had done this, then a previous game's dlc would automatically be recognized by any future games. this is what i was saying that i hope they do with RB.

AgainstOne

anyone who buys gh:aerosmith is a fool.

VixDiesel

@Jeff Paine: I seriously doubt it. It was only downloadable for two days.
But this is good news. I'm so excited for GH: World Tour and this makes me wanna buy it even more. I really hope Rock Band 2 comes out this year cuz I want that too.

lenandude

@Solash: At least GHWT for Wii will have it.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

Semi-Off Topic:

if there is guna be a RB2- the previous games' downloads also better work for it. Because I've bought almost every song RB has to offer and it would suck to have all that good money and songs flushed down the drain.

King Seafoam

Also, will the DLC from GH3 feature Drums and Mic support?

Solash

Too bad that doesn't concern me...Stupid no DLC for the Wii.

Solash

Wait, what? The game that can easily support the DLC won't and the one with a fundamentally different game play mechanic will support it? I assume you'll get guitar only. Its good, I guess, but I want RB1 DLC to work with RB2 a lot more.

Speaking of which...

@Lazlo: I don't think Harmonix has actually announced that. I mean, they haven't even announced Rock Band 2. I believe they said that they WANTED to do that, but we haven't gotten confirmation yet.

BStu

@ThisCharmingMan: If they were releasing GH: 4, 5 and 6 in the same year, I might agree. But really, there's just World Tour & Aerosmith, maybe Metallica. I doubt Activision is expecting massive GH3-like sales on the latter two - but I'm willing to bet it'll still sell respectably well.

GH3's sales (best-seller of 2007, wasn't it? considering it only came out in October, that's very impressive) showed just how frickin' huge the market for these games is. And it's a genre that's really only been brought to the mainstream's attention in the last year or two. Plenty of room in this space yet.

freakout

This is basically the best news I've heard all week. Yesterday I was sitting there playing GH3 thinking... wouldn't the world be an awesome place if they made all these songs I've payed for playable on GH4.

Yay ^_^

PyramidKazoo

OMG! YAY! I GETS MY MUSE DOWNLOADED SONGS! WOO! *Surpised evil-happy face* >=D

xXSlayer77Xx

Well, GH:A apparently has One Armed Scissor by ATDI.. so that's one reason why I'd buy it. :P

jello44

Even if it's guitar only it will add a decent amount of value to the DLC. Maybe enough for me to buy a couple packs I had considered. I've only bought the 3 Muse songs for GH3 so far. If they do add full band value to the existing tracks the Foo Fighters/Velvet Revolver will be downloaded by me for sure, and some other packs will have to be evaluated.

In Rock Band I've bought something like 45 songs thanks to the better prices, being able to split packs into individual songs, and added value of Drums/Vocals. The DLC differential is pretty significant when you consider that for the most part I prefer GH3 to Rock Band.

Kudos to Guitar Hero for giving the boss battles and Dropkick Murphies songs as free DLC though. That stuff beats a lot of the Rock Band DLC that I paid actual money for! :)

PegasusActual

Wow. I'm shocked. For all the milking I was convinced I would have to at least re-buy all those songs. What's next, I won't HAVE to buy the new guitar controllers?

JustFrozen

nice to know I didnt spend all those MS points on songs I will never be able to play again.

DarthTauri

This makes me wonder if they'll have a few instrument-specific songs. I could imagine them putting in Der Trommler as the drum finale.

Mr. Mastodon Farm

@freakout:

Friends don't let friends listen to Nickelback. There there, it'll be ok.

Seriously though, speaking to everyone who is taking a big poop on GH:Aerosmith, if you already own all the games for PS2 as I do, why is it such a stretch to try and get more mileage out of the guitar controllers that are soon to be obsolete?

KirkDouglas

Hi! "begs the question" does not mean what you think it means. Please see wikipedia or check out my favorite "begging the question" article: [www.themorningnews.org]

back on the topic, though, this is awesome news!@~ I hope Rock Band follows suit.

chriscasey

Hang on, from the get go, I've been hearing they won't work on World Tour even yesterday on hands-on impressions but now I'm hearing they will work on World Tour? Where's the source?

William Sun

The GH3 controllers will work with GH4 as far as we know.
Why was I even considering GH:Aerosmith. Bah! Better to save the $60 and put it towards GH4!

jiSh

@freakout: Is this even confirmed to be GHIV anymore? I have a feeling the change from a numeric sequel to a "spin-off" type subtitle gives me the impression they're holding back on calling this GHIV.

If anything, World Tour is the "first" in a new series. If it's successful, we'll see "GH:WTII"...and then likely ALSO a Guitar-only GHIV.

Because if GHWT is a hit...what's the point of releasing GH:Metallica if it's guitar only? What will encourage people to downgrade?

TRT-X

Cool, but as long as there aren't new peripherals, why isn't at least GH:Aerosmith just a downloadable expansion? It's kind of annoying to swap discs for different songs. GH:WT is different, I know, because of the new Rock Band-esque peripherals.

Petezah

This is the first bit of news to help convince GHIII owners to "step-up" to world tour (full gear upgrade and all)

Now they just need to confirm their drums are compatible with RB. That'll seal the deal for EVERYBODY.

TRT-X

@TRT-X: Good point, WT might be just as much of a spin-off as Aerosmith or 80's...

Personally, I wouldn't be complaining if they kept the "main" GH series guitar-focused. I appreciate having a setlist full of guitar-heavy tracks for solo play. Plus it allows for epic face-offs, if you have a friend of similar skill. I love co-op play, but there's still a lot of fun to be had in competition, too.

Actually, the next game I'm expecting after WT and Metallica is Drum Hero. Red Octane will have drum production running smoothly by then, ready to crank out in the squillions it'll likely sell...

freakout

Do we have, like, an actual source for this? Because IGN says otherwise.

"Normally I'd say that the over 85 songs (all of which are master tracks and are promised to be a "step above GH3") on the disc for Guitar Hero: World Tour is impressive. Then I'd follow it up by saying I'm bummed that none of the downloadable content from Guitar Hero 3 will work with World Tour"

The paragraph goes on to mention a renewed commitment to DLC (which, given GH3's record compared to RB's is something I'll have to see to believe), including full album downloads and an in-game music store. But this article was just written yesterday and no correction has been published, so I assume Activision wouldn't pull a 180 on this within a day.

darthonyx

"....Why would you buy Guitar Hero: Aerosmith?"
People will still buy GH:Aerosmith if they like all the songs on there enough, because that's the only place where they'll be able to play those songs. Outside of playing on a real guitar or as a custom song on the PS2 versions, etc. Not that that's the point, we're alking about Guiar Hero fans here. Long story short, more monies for Activision.

arazzor

The only possible reason anyone should buy GH: aerosmith is if they're a really big areosmith fan and can't play an actual instrument.

personally I'm much more interested in the world tour and metallica flavors.

demonknightinuyasha

Not to question the integrity of Kotaku, but IGN says otherwise regarding this topic... Is there a source for this info?

ddrussianinja

@Petezah: Because the majority of people don't have that much space on their hard drives to dedicate to 60+ guitar hero songs. That's my guess. Also... they want to showcase the band and I don't think they could add in the new characters and cut scenes

JustOneFix

1up is also saying that DLC will not work.

[www.1up.com]

mugido

I kinda now understand why they kept releasing new tracks for GHIII eventhough IV (a.k.a. world tour) is coming out like in few months.

umaxyome

@darthonyx:

Ack, just realized the IGN link didn't work.

Here's the fixed link. Apologies.

[xbox360.ign.com]

darthonyx

I'm not sure why it would be a big deal if the downloads weren't compatible with World Tour. I mean, if you wanted to play those songs, couldn't you just put in your copy of GHIII? A minor inconvenience yes, but not really something to get all worked up over if you ask me.

PollockRoc

That's awesome, shouldn't be hard to do. I mean if they have a song writing system it shouldn't be hard to simply import note charts from another game. But still, they'll have to make note charts for drums.

And Pollock, it wouldn't be a real big deal if they weren't compatible. Think of it as a chance to play your old DLC as a full band.

And as for the article...guess someone isn't a very big Aerosmith fan. I am, and will be buying the game. To not buy it because the DLC isn't compatible is just silly, it's not like you're going to throw away your GH3 disc.

Dalren

if the Guitar Hero: Aerosmith has all new songs in it, and if your an Aerosmith fan...why not buy it?...
i'm not an aerosmith fan so..i'm not gonna get it :|, unless theres a 'bonus' section like GH3.

pissa

Why buy GH Aerosmith? "Because you like Aerosmith" is a good answer. If you're not a fan don't.

Shinryoma

GH DLC has failed ever since GH2 when compared to Rockband's DLC. Rockband has a better menu setup and they actually update new songs all the time unlike the GH series where we see 3 songs every 4months or so.

If GH can get their act together that would be great.

3elevenX

i can't wait for guitar hero: aerosmith to be 20 dollars or less..on ebay that is..
i'll buy it then.
just for the new load of songs.
woo xD..other than that..not very interested xD

evilralphwiggum

Umm....I just read in the IGN preview that World Tour won't support GH3 downloads...

"Then I'd follow it up by saying I'm bummed that none of the downloadable content from Guitar Hero 3 will work with World Tour" -- thats on page 3...

Phasher99

What's with all the Aerosmith hate on Kotaku?

I'm excited for GH: Aerosmith. Love In A Elevator, Walk This Way, Back In The Saddle, Dude (Looks Like A Lady)...etc etc

The bad news is that Guitar Hero: On Tour is coming out.

Tomahawk214

See, this is the kind of announcement I'm waiting for on Rock Band 2. Cuz I've spent a LOT of money on Rock Band songs. Guitar Hero, well, ....none.

supercrap

@Lazlo: Its only confirmation that they want to do it. It would be unfair to treat "I hope to do this" as "I promise that this will be done". There may be reasons they won't be able to do it. I'd be disappointed if that happens, but I'd be more disappointed with the fans who'd be unfairly accusing Harmonix of lying for not doing something they never confirmed they were doing in the first place.

BStu

@BStu:
Isn't saying, "We want to do this in our next game" kind of like confirming its existence? It would seem that way to me.

@AgainstOne:
Sorry, wrong again. They own the rights to the name only. When Harmonix left they took everything data related with them. Red Octane has no rights whatsoever to use GH/GH2 code because the code itself is property of Harmonix. Apart from Neversoft saying that, why else do you think they would build a brand new game from the ground up? Think about it.

Lazlo

@Lazlo: i know that harmonix retained the rights to the code, but the code isn't what we're talking about here. we're talking about the format specification of DLC songs. without that format specification, Activision/Red Octane would not be able to produce any more DLC for GH2, a game that they own the rights to. are you seriously suggesting that this is the case? that, at the very least, it wouldn't hold up in court for red octane to be able to create DLC for a game they own the rights to?

even if this is truly what you believe (which i find quite incredible that anyone would believe this) it is easily refutable, considering the last DLC put out for GH2 came after after (yes after) Rock Band was released to retail. i hardly believe harmonix was still working on DLC for GH2 during the Rock Band release time-frame.

AgainstOne