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Miyamoto Caught on Film Checking Out Killzone 2
Posted by Brian Crecente at 1:00 AM on July 19, 2008
As with previous E3s, Nintendo tastemaker Shigeru Miyamoto swung by a few booths to check out the action. In this vid we get a glimpse of Miyamoto getting a glimpse of hardcore shooter Killzone 2. What I don't get is why he keeps looking at these big-name shooters. He's been pretty clear in the past about how he feels about them.
[Thanks Runandgun]

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Abdar
Posted 1:30 AM 19/7/08
your not much a business man if you don't know the competition
Abdar
pkmnSilver
Posted 1:29 AM 19/7/08
They said they wanted to break the psychological barrier.
pkmnSilver
UltimatePancakeSensation
Posted 1:29 AM 19/7/08
It's quite possible that he is trying to figure out what the appeal is, and E3 is the perfect place to watch the game and people's reactions. I can only imagine his inner turmoil, as Captain Sunshine tries to figure out why the screaming masses love blasting holes in each other.
He'll be crying himself to sleep in the fetal position tonight, that's for sure.
UltimatePancakeSensation
ƒox
Posted 1:27 AM 19/7/08
Did everyone forget Link's Crossbow Training? =p
ƒox
karateka
Posted 1:26 AM 19/7/08
Just because he's checking doesn't mean he likes it. Maybe just want to know what the fuss is about first hand. See it first, if you don't like it, fine, but nothing wrong with that.
karateka
AngelMayLaugh
Posted 1:25 AM 19/7/08
Was LBP playable at e3? I can imagine Miyamoto sitting there for an hour or two playing it.
AngelMayLaugh
Bookburner
Posted 1:25 AM 19/7/08
@spargo_1: Uhm did you even read the article you linked.
"Well, actually we dont know what he really thought"
Bookburner
Talleh
Posted 1:25 AM 19/7/08
Oh noes! He's playing a game that he didn't make! AND ITS NOT HIS EMPLOYER'S COMPANY?!
BEGIN PANIC.
Really though, let the man play the games he wants, I'm sure most people can look at their game collection and see at least one of these that is not like the others.
Talleh
BlackFreefall
Posted 1:25 AM 19/7/08
The day that Nintendo is releasing a FPS draws near.
Introudcing Wii Shoot: Shooting has been made easier by the touch of the A and B button.
BlackFreefall
Para
Posted 1:24 AM 19/7/08
Maybe he's getting ideas on FPS for Retro Studios for their next game?
Para
macr0planet
Posted 1:24 AM 19/7/08
As much as people might dislike the Wii, you just gotta love this guy. I mean, I see him as the Godfather of video games.
macr0planet
gec05
Posted 1:23 AM 19/7/08
Mario FPS! Mario FPS!
gec05
Mr. Fap☆Fap!
Posted 1:22 AM 19/7/08
"What I don't get is why he keeps looking at these big-name shooters. He's been pretty clear in the past about how he feels about them."
Err...I would imagine because it's something in his industry and he likes to keep up with the big things that are going on and making buzz. Isn't that what professionals do?
I'm not game designer, but even I keep up with the latest technology and works in my industry, even if I think it's crap or irrelevant to anything I'll ever do.
Mr. Fap☆Fap!
the_answer
Posted 1:21 AM 19/7/08
time to come out of the closet, you fps-lover
the_answer
KaneRobot
Posted 1:21 AM 19/7/08
First he makes "video games that are better than video games" and now he wanders into Sony's booth. Poor guy must be lost. Reggie, put him in a home before he hurts himself or others.
KaneRobot
EvilHunter
Posted 1:20 AM 19/7/08
well he checking out the games at E3 every year so its not a big not a big deal
EvilHunter
sir_carrot
Posted 1:20 AM 19/7/08
Reassuring himself that Mario is better without a double-barreled shotgun.
sir_carrot
stargateheaven
Posted 1:19 AM 19/7/08
he's thinking "where is all the bright colors and bathroom scales?"
stargateheaven
badasscat
Posted 1:17 AM 19/7/08
He's the head of EAD, not just some random developer at Nintendo. Part of his job is to know what the competition is doing.
badasscat
3inst3in
Posted 1:17 AM 19/7/08
i think he feels like Hideo Kojima, when confronted with this stuff he feels like an anachronism, that these big budget shooters are something from a new time period. he's impressed with them and their draw from people, but still believes the people want something different.
god, could you imagine a shooter designed by miyamoto. that would be trippy.
3inst3in
Hand_O_Death
Posted 1:16 AM 19/7/08
Just because he does not like a certain type of media, does not mean that he is not smart enough to learn about all types of games to better his own.
Hand_O_Death
jove
Posted 1:15 AM 19/7/08
i bet all these executives have all 3 game consoles at home while these silly fanboys argue over which console is best
jove
pkmnSilver
Posted 1:15 AM 19/7/08
One word: Metroid (Two words if your reading it in Chozo) LOL!
pkmnSilver
KaliKOtt
Posted 1:15 AM 19/7/08
he's free to look at that since the Wii is "not competing" anyway
KaliKOtt
jove
Posted 1:14 AM 19/7/08
"know your enemy" thats miyamotos philosphy
jove
Playstation
Posted 1:13 AM 19/7/08
He forgot to disguise himself in a mii suit.
Playstation
chuffhoncho
Posted 1:13 AM 19/7/08
I LOL'd when Miyamoto looked in his direction and the camera man turned away really quick. I could almost hear him whistling and trying to "act natural".
chuffhoncho
laencythe
Posted 1:12 AM 19/7/08
too bad you guys couldn't ask him what he thought about it. I'd like to know. if he enjoyed it (there's no reason he didn't except for the stereotype) there would be good chances we saw more fps on the Wii, Nintendo made. well, ok, the guns may shoot flowers then but still...
laencythe
mrWalrus
Posted 1:11 AM 19/7/08
Miyamoto FPS Confirmed! = Megaton
mrWalrus
Absent Blue
Posted 1:11 AM 19/7/08
He's probably just trying to understand the attraction to the medium beyond the violence. Personally I think violence is almost key to a FPS, Metroid Prime being the closest exception, but with that you still don't get your head shots which is more a measure of skill than it is a necessity for gore.
Absent Blue
AuthenticM
Posted 1:10 AM 19/7/08
Maybe he is planning a shooter ?
AuthenticM
-EDGE-
Posted 1:10 AM 19/7/08
Maybe he's trying to figure out how to make shooting people in the face fun again?
I kid, I kid…seriously
-EDGE-
Woodwater
Posted 1:09 AM 19/7/08
"Yeah, I saw it on the cover of Big Whoop magazine"
-Mr. Penuci. (Penuchi?Pinoochi?)
Woodwater
zanzibarlegend
Posted 1:09 AM 19/7/08
@Chrinkster: mentioning the name "Red Steel" might get u banned from Kotaku. i'm just saying... be careful :P
zanzibarlegend
spargo_1
Posted 1:08 AM 19/7/08
Actually he liked it.
Apparently Miyamoto thought Killzone 2 was impressive. People are so quick to presume he disliked it -_-
[n4g.com]
spargo_1
jove
Posted 1:08 AM 19/7/08
hahahaha
oh well he is into making videog games after all.
jove
DRaGZ
Posted 1:07 AM 19/7/08
Well, he claims he's always been fascinated with FPS. In fact, he originally considered making OoT first-person.
I think he doesn't like the overt violence of it all, but I think he appreciates the things that can be done with it.
DRaGZ
hamandcheeseUK
Posted 1:06 AM 19/7/08
@Captain_Canada: He didn't say it was bad. He said he didn't like the drugs and violence.
hamandcheeseUK
_Hayko
Posted 1:06 AM 19/7/08
Where's the Kotaku Stalku tag?
_Hayko
Project Thanatos
Posted 1:06 AM 19/7/08
Is no one allowed to try out new games for the sake of trying out a new game?
Hell I'm an avid "THERE ARE SO MANY DAMN SHOOTERS" kind of gamer and am INCREDIBLY harsh on my judgment of shooters.... that won't stop me from trying one out and weighing it out.
Hence how I came to love COD4 despite its "I hate snipers" position. Bastards.
Project Thanatos
Servant_of_Jashin
Posted 1:06 AM 19/7/08
I guess he got sick of playing mario party infinity.
Servant_of_Jashin
Chrinkster
Posted 1:05 AM 19/7/08
No i bet he's thinking....'Wait a second....This isnt redsteel 2...'
Chrinkster
Brian Crecente
Posted 1:05 AM 19/7/08
@Captain_Canada: lol
Brian Crecente
Schoolimangooli the doogie mag goosie!
Posted 1:05 AM 19/7/08
@Captain_Canada: I wonder what he thinks about K2. From this video it kinda of reminds me of COD4. Which is still my favorite game to play at the moment. It even got me shelfing( is that a word?) MGS4:P
Schoolimangooli the doogie mag goosie!
Struct09
Posted 1:04 AM 19/7/08
@Struct09: Or actually, maybe he said "We could have made Killzone, but chose not to"
Struct09
archibaldleech
Posted 1:04 AM 19/7/08
Ha, I love when Miyamoto looks in the direction of the camera and the photographer quickly pans the camera to the right like he's filming the screen.
GOOD SAVE!
archibaldleech
Candlejack
Posted 1:04 AM 19/7/08
If Miyamoto likes this game, or thinks it will be good, we can pretty much mark it down as GOTY 2009, lol.
On a serious note, I guess he's just getting an idea of what Sony's first party is doing. Sony and Nintendo are almost like buddies that go way back at this point.
Candlejack
Chrinkster
Posted 1:04 AM 19/7/08
Killzone on Wii! This will sell millions!
Chrinkster
Struct09
Posted 1:04 AM 19/7/08
Getting ideas for the first person Zelda game obviously
Struct09
valhum
Posted 1:04 AM 19/7/08
@Captain_Canada: HAHAHAHA i was gonna say that hahahaha.
Great quote from that article linked:
"Haze is one of the titles that really benefited from their E3 showing, getting a lot of positive buzz at the show."
Hilarious indeed, lol.
valhum
TheTimeRanger
Posted 1:04 AM 19/7/08
Maybe he will direct the new halo....O_o Fucking hope not. Halo sux.
That's right, come get me...
TheTimeRanger
RaveGamer
Posted 1:03 AM 19/7/08
Shock!
Awe!
Gasp!
RaveGamer
Captain_Canada
Posted 1:02 AM 19/7/08
Hey guys remember when Miyamoto thought Haze was bad!
Man what an idiot! He obviously is out of touch with gaming if he thought that marvel of a video game Haze was bad!
Oh, wait....
Captain_Canada
Frank
Posted 1:59 AM 19/7/08
He's just begging to let it all out after decades of family-oriented/wholesome games.
But they won't let him.
Frank
new_pornographer
Posted 1:58 AM 19/7/08
Crecente
[kotaku.com]
You should really check out stories that YOUR OWN WEBSITE links to before putting your foot in your mouth with statements like "What I don't get is why he keeps looking at these big-name shooters. He's been pretty clear in the past about how he feels about them."
Jus' sayin.
new_pornographer
enewtabie
Posted 1:55 AM 19/7/08
@Maxyboy13:
Say what?
I haven't seen one yet.Metroid is a good game though.
enewtabie
zetopazio
Posted 1:54 AM 19/7/08
Next Mario will be a FPS!
zetopazio
Mr.DuckSauce
Posted 1:52 AM 19/7/08
@Candlejack: what are you talking about "buddies", they had a joint console idea together until they broke apart for having different idea's, and look what happened now.
Mr.DuckSauce
Solid_hedgehog
Posted 1:51 AM 19/7/08
Miyamoto is on drugs.
Solid_hedgehog
Maxyboy13
Posted 1:48 AM 19/7/08
@BlackFreefall: The irony of your statement is that FPSes are easier to control and more intuitive to play on the Wii. :p
Maxyboy13
Jimbuck
Posted 1:48 AM 19/7/08
This isn't a big deal. He's only doing his research and seeing what is relevant in the world of gaming outside of nintendo. He's so awesome.
Jimbuck
Mact
Posted 1:45 AM 19/7/08
By the way, I checked my sources, and it seems Miyamoto was indeed doing research for one of his current projects.
Killing Sprii
Fall 2009
Mact
enewtabie
Posted 1:43 AM 19/7/08
Clearly the world is going crazy..Major Nelson was given a preview of Resistance 2 by Ted Price and met the Sony Blog guys.What's next???
enewtabie
Mact
Posted 1:41 AM 19/7/08
@Crecente
So him not liking a shitty game means he doesn't like it's entire genre?
Mact
StrikerGold
Posted 1:40 AM 19/7/08
The man is the consummate professional game-maker. No matter what you think of certain genres, you gimp your own creativity if you dismiss them completely out of hand. I'm sure he told some lackeys with more time on their hands than he did to look for games on the show floor that had certain qualities he was interested in and they report back. Clearly Killzone 2 had something Miyamoto was interested in seeing for himself.
StrikerGold
Bigfoot
Posted 1:39 AM 19/7/08
@Office Ninja: He was heavily involved in the first Metroid Prime.
[www.gamasutra.com]
Bigfoot
madgunde
Posted 1:38 AM 19/7/08
I think he's getting some ideas for WiiShooter, in which you'll just gesture the wii zapper around as if you're shooting people, but there isn't any score or objectives, you can't miss and you don't win or lose. You just kinda act out playing different popular first person shooters. There will be like 60 different weapons you can pretend to fire, and have 3 of your friends join you to pretend to play coop mode.
You know he's thinking about it...
madgunde
KingBroly
Posted 1:36 AM 19/7/08
Miyamoto said he is big fan of the first person perspective in games. I guess he wants to see what he could do with it.
KingBroly
fuchikoma
Posted 1:35 AM 19/7/08
It's not impossible that Nintendo is still searching for a nice neutral, polititcally correct, family-friendly, generic looking way to court core gamers either. They may be the size of Jupiter right now, but it doesn't mean FPS games are irrelevant now.
However after this E3, I don't really give a rip what they're planning. "Geeks and otaku" was a frustrating slip up, but the lineup they just showed was a full-force kick to the dangly bits. I've given up on them almost 2/3 as bad as they've given up on me.
fuchikoma
doubtful
Posted 1:33 AM 19/7/08
I'll bet he's thinking how much better Killzone 2 would be if it included a required accessory for the controller. :)
doubtful
TakuFangirl
Posted 1:33 AM 19/7/08
that would suck having weird stalkers filming you watching videos at a press event. you'd think at the revised E3 you'd be able to get away from the losers. guess not.
TakuFangirl
MURDERFACE
Posted 1:32 AM 19/7/08
Maybe he is trying to re-invent the FPS for a new Nintendo project but at least he is open minded about checking the other games @ E3. But you know the old saying keep your friends close and your enemys closer.
I know I'm going of the subject but...
Oh shit did anyone see The Dark Knight last night it was so AWESOME! I might take the time to see it again in IMAX form.
MURDERFACE
Office Ninja
Posted 1:30 AM 19/7/08
Is he involved with Metroid?
Office Ninja
Type-R
Posted 2:23 AM 19/7/08
@Chrinkster:
More like, "Sweet a Jin-roh video game!" Am I right?
Type-R
genbeef
Posted 2:23 AM 19/7/08
@spargo_1: well according to that article, they don't know. that was rather quick to presume he liked it
genbeef
fadecy
Posted 2:22 AM 19/7/08
I think maybe he's getting some inspiration. Or maybe he just wanted to check it out like everybody else at e3?
fadecy
Patient
Posted 2:15 AM 19/7/08
He writing down the music... duh.
Patient
Klappstuhl
Posted 2:15 AM 19/7/08
Maybe he just had enough of making/playing kawaii-cuddly-kiddie-games that make you feel so fuzzy inside that you puke gay and rainbows.
Would be a great improvement, because I finally want to see some BRUTAL sh*t on a Nintendo Console coming from their developing team. (RE4 is from Capcom, doesn't count)
Seriously, screw their cute games, I don't want them.
/sarcasm
Klappstuhl
Mr. Fap☆Fap!
Posted 2:10 AM 19/7/08
@AngelMayLaugh:
I like to imagine that Miyamoto calls Reggie up every damn day and says, "Why the hell did you not move faster to get this game?! IDIOT!"
Also,
@MURDERFACE:
OMG The Dark King was EASILY the best movie I've seen in years! They weren't kidding about Heath Ledger's performance, either. I literally have zero criticisms of the movie!
Mr. Fap☆Fap!
FelicioLostHorizonPT
Posted 2:09 AM 19/7/08
Ratchet & Clank? whats that? uh?
Kill zone? never heard of it...
myamoto the guy that never grew up
FelicioLostHorizonPT
wild homes has been retconned!
Posted 2:08 AM 19/7/08
While I think this qualifies as a non-event-- Miyamoto plays games! ZOMG!-- I do wish they'd asked him his impressions of Killzone II. It'd be real interesting to hear Miyamoto's thoughts on that game.
Crecente, if you guys interview Miyamoto any time soon, will you ask him how he felt about it?
wild homes has been retconned!
Ashurahori
Posted 2:07 AM 19/7/08
Heck, I hate Killzone, and even I opened my mouth in awe when I saw how good the game looked. Miyamoto's got all the right to be impressed by the game, since this is probably the best-looking game on any console we've seen.
Ashurahori
zzt711
Posted 2:07 AM 19/7/08
My guess is what grabbed his attention was the graphics, which are no doubt impressive. So he walked up to take a closer look, the rep noticed and demonstrated and talked about the games features.
Yeah he may not like FPS's, but that doesn't stop Miyamoto, a developer firstmost, learning the gaming trends of other genre's
zzt711
FLYmeatwad
Posted 2:06 AM 19/7/08
@Kfizz311:
It's an FPS! I can understand the MGS4 being more like a movie than a game, I don't agree with it, but I can understand it, but this is an FPS. Come on!
FLYmeatwad
cxplorer
Posted 2:05 AM 19/7/08
It's cool to see him check out other games.He loves games just like us.I'm like him.I'm not into FPS games.I check them out but never finish them.
cxplorer
FLYmeatwad
Posted 2:04 AM 19/7/08
Whether Killzone 2 turns out to be a great game, a good game, a mediocre game, a terrible game, or a masterpiece, it's still hard not to be impressed by it's graphics. I'm hoping it will be good.
FLYmeatwad
Kfizz311
Posted 2:03 AM 19/7/08
Killzone 2 is more like a movie then a game. It looks good but the gameplay is not there at the moment.
Kfizz311
deathtastic
Posted 2:02 AM 19/7/08
@TheTimeRanger:
Hey watch it those ultra-violent, orgasmic rape simulators train people to be killers you never know how many hundreds of hours in the halo shooting range some people have.
deathtastic
DigitalHero
Posted 2:01 AM 19/7/08
@Maxyboy13:
Still, the Wii graphics aren't compelling. There are PC games from 2001 that look better than most Wii games so what is your point? Every system has its good and bad points. The Wii has more bad than good in my opinion. (Waggle, Weak Storage, Mature Games)
DigitalHero
mpar
Posted 2:52 AM 19/7/08
The drug that nintendo give him to talk happy crap ran off
mpar
etchasketchist
Posted 2:47 AM 19/7/08
I think a Mario 3rd Person shooter, if done right, would be the biggest thing since Smash Bros. Do it Mario Kart style and have him shoot banana peels and turtle shells. It would still be awesome. Shooter mechanics are just a fun way to play in interactive space. There's no rule that says they have to be violent and full of death.
etchasketchist
majortom1029
Posted 2:43 AM 19/7/08
Nintendo is not the company everybody thinks it is. Everybody thinks nintendo forgot core gamers but they said they didnt ( they stated e3 was for them showing casual games and they will show core games later).
Also a lot of companies dont think as badly of their competition as the companies fans do.
majortom1029
Hisdon
Posted 2:41 AM 19/7/08
Just cause he didn't like Haze doesn't have to mean he forsakes all shooters - he worked on Metroid Prime even.
I could totally see Miyamoto digging whatever Valve puts out.
Hisdon
CockroachMan
Posted 2:38 AM 19/7/08
OMG! MIYAMOTO WAS WATCHING A GAME AT E3!! SHOCKING!
AND THIS IS JUST IN: MIYAMOTO ATE FISH AT LUNCH TODAY! SOME SOURCES TELL US THAT IT WAS TUNA! STAY TUNED FOR MORE DETAILS!
CockroachMan
Jorw
Posted 2:38 AM 19/7/08
Why do we care about Miyamoto playing Killzone 2? He was at E3 anyway, so of course he checked out the games.
Jorw
cobrax25
Posted 2:37 AM 19/7/08
he sounds like the kind of person to be way more intrested in Spore.
cobrax25
mfwahwah
Posted 2:33 AM 19/7/08
People are actually talking like this is news. It's not a surprise that devs play new games at e3.
mfwahwah
excel_excel
Posted 2:31 AM 19/7/08
God, it would have been priceless if he asked "is this that Rachet and Clank I've heard so much about? Is it a PC game?"
excel_excel
Fujoshi
Posted 2:26 AM 19/7/08
Gee.. he went around looking at other games... what a huge drama...
Fujoshi
Jelster
Posted 3:18 AM 19/7/08
I think that just because it isn't necessarily his style doesn't mean he can't appreciate it from a design point of view. He clearly enjoys taking aspects of his life and putting them into playable forms, why not look at a popular genre as ask, "How can this be done in my style?" or "What is appealing about this at the core?".
I think it's great that although he shows disdain for such titles he doesn't attempt to push them away into non existance. Perhaps some people should pay him the same courtesy.
Jelster
bar10der
Posted 3:16 AM 19/7/08
it's like having a friend dating a stripper, you will discredit and make statements in front of you wife or girlfriend but deep inside you're thinking mmmmm yummy, how do I get a private show here....
bar10der
Phibius
Posted 3:11 AM 19/7/08
We all know he's looking for something else to do than making karts that shoot bananas ;) maybe kill the friggin' plumber license and get something -orignal-?
Phibius
chris_wing
Posted 3:04 AM 19/7/08
Remember last year when he was filmed checking out Haze?
This is just his annual kiss of death.
chris_wing
wild homes has been retconned!
Posted 2:57 AM 19/7/08
@excel_excel: HAHAHA. Oh man, that's perfect!
wild homes has been retconned!
AllegraStreit
Posted 2:54 AM 19/7/08
Heh. If nothing else, perhaps Miyamoto was bored? Playing new games is always fun. If we wanna dig deeper, I suppose he could be looking at it from a design standpoint, i.e. graphics, scripting, etc.
Or perhaps there's this big inner conflict in Miyamoto between the games he likes, and the games that are supporting Nintendo. I doubt that, but what are forums for if not speculation?
AllegraStreit
Hulkamaniac
Posted 3:50 AM 19/7/08
if Miyamoto was checking that game out, then most likely he is up to something. Perhaps he is looking at what the others are doing, and is reconsidering what he is about do with his own company in the near future. He is completely unpredictable so who knows what will happen or what made him have interest in Killzone 2.
Hulkamaniac
hagridore
Posted 3:47 AM 19/7/08
Confirmed: Miyamoto tired of Wii. Starts working Guerilla tomorrow.
hagridore
DONNYchiban
Posted 3:46 AM 19/7/08
@Talleh: I remember a few years back that someone wrote into Nintendo Power asking if all they played were Nintendo games. The response that person received actually surprised me; I was expecting a "yes, we all breathe Nintendo" type of sarcastic comment, but the person actually received something along the lines of "we're all gamers here, so we have a PS2 and Xbox around the HQ." I thought that was cool.
DONNYchiban
MasaMuneCyrus
Posted 3:40 AM 19/7/08
@Candlejack: If by "buddies" you mean "close, bitter, professional enemies with a history of backstabbing and stealing ideas that continues to this day", then yes, you're right.
Nintendo and Sony are much like Apple and Microsoft, I'd be willing to say.
MasaMuneCyrus
Zeouterlimits
Posted 3:36 AM 19/7/08
He {& Reggie} went to the Microsoft booth too, there were twitters of his arrival. Major Nelson & the Sony Blog guys got together as well.
Zeouterlimits
Jacktherip
Posted 3:35 AM 19/7/08
I guess a new metroid would seem like the mostly like reason or he's trying to bring FPS games to a more casual audience, I'd like to see that.
Jacktherip
Quilt
Posted 4:19 AM 19/7/08
"So THIS is what a hardcore game looks like. I thought Killzone was a party game!"
Quilt
Jay
Posted 4:16 AM 19/7/08
i think he just found another opportunity.....
behold:
"Wii Kill" + AK47 addon $49.99
Jay
DarkHavoc99
Posted 4:04 AM 19/7/08
Miyamoto you sly dog... These games are too violent for you.
DarkHavoc99
Zentac
Posted 4:00 AM 19/7/08
Other developers should take note, so many times you hear them say "I have no idea what is going on in the business, I'm so busy with my own game" and in the end losing touch and creating something not all that fun.
Zentac
TF2Soldier914
Posted 3:56 AM 19/7/08
@DRaGZ:
That could be true.
TF2Soldier914
y2julio
Posted 3:55 AM 19/7/08
@spargo_1: if you read the article you would have seen that no one knows if he liked it or not.
y2julio
p_hon
Posted 4:37 AM 19/7/08
@Absent Blue: Someone didn't play MP: Corruption. Headshots, ankle trips, the works.
p_hon
Abno
Posted 4:37 AM 19/7/08
@Jay: Ah, you beat me to it.
Abno
Abno
Posted 4:36 AM 19/7/08
E3 2009 - Famed video game designer Shigeru Miyamoto introduces "Wii Kill" to the gaming press and public.
"I made this game so that everyone can enjoy killing", says Miyamoto. "In Wii Kill you don't have to worry about such frivolous features such as 'aiming'. Just press A and bullets shoot in every direction, killing everyone in the area, and stomp your foot on the balance board for an easy skull crushing".
I asked Miyamoto if the lack of aiming would take away the challenge of the game and turn it into more of a killing toy. "Yes, that's right", Miyamoto responded sharply. "And that makes it better than a video game...One day, I see Wii Kill replacing half of the boot camp training in militaries around the world."
Wii Kill will come packed with a new peripheral called the "Wii Soaker" which sprays fake blood all over the players as they play, and is slated to hit store shelves in October 2009 for $80 MSRP.
Abno
TOCATL
Posted 4:35 AM 19/7/08
@Hulkamaniac: Thats very possible, they are looking what the others are doing in the FPS area to learn from them and use that in future wii titles, to appeal more to that market of games...
TOCATL
dowingba
Posted 4:28 AM 19/7/08
Wasn't it Miyamoto's idea to make Metroid Prime first-person?
dowingba
Chadders
Posted 5:05 AM 19/7/08
Iwata
(laughs) For now, rather than hearing too much about the details of the game, I'd like to ask you what sort of image you had in mind when creating Link's Crossbow Training.
Miyamoto
I see. Well, where should I start? I've always been into first person shooter3 (FPS) style games, 3D games in which you can walk around freely and see things from your own point of view.
Iwata
And why do you like those games?
Miyamoto
I think it is more comfortable, more natural. We are creatures of habit. We don't look at our feet when we're walking around, and we're always trying desperately to take in the scenery while we're living our lives. So, even in these games I want people to be able to get really into the 3D geography, so it feels like you're really there, since I think it's a really natural thing to be able to look around while you're walking. At first when we were developing The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time4, I even proposed using a first-person perspective.
[us.wii.com]
Do some journalistic research, Brian.
Chadders
maraxusofk
Posted 4:59 AM 19/7/08
u never know. miyamato could be looking at k2 for inspiration for some ultra hardcore game that will redeem itself in the face of the wii's onslaught of shovelware..............
ok even if this doent happen, k2 looks good so cant he check it out?
maraxusofk
kagebutsu
Posted 4:58 AM 19/7/08
@Captain_Canada:
Miyamoto is like an fps zen master, if he doesn't like it then its sure to suck.
kagebutsu
demonknightinuyasha
Posted 5:48 AM 19/7/08
@archibaldleech:
haha yeah i saw that and giggled immensely.
i kinda just imagine him sitting there making fun of it in his head >.>
@etchasketchist:
super mario laser tag*, coming this fall.
*note will require the wii laser tag accessory pack which really won't do much other than let the wiimote do things it was supposed to supposedly do already...coming this fall! >.>
demonknightinuyasha
dipsetboy17
Posted 5:46 AM 19/7/08
was he just curious?
dipsetboy17
HayamaAkito
Posted 5:45 AM 19/7/08
Nothing better than get fragged by Shiggy
HayamaAkito
humongous_mouse
Posted 6:10 AM 19/7/08
He's been given a demonstration by representatives of Guerrilla Games.
It's safe to say Miyamoto isn't some pompous jerk who would smugly ignore requests/feedback from other designers, that results in bad publicity. After all he's a well respected figurehead in this industry; those who say otherwise are Sony/Xbox rabid fanboys.
humongous_mouse
JokesJokes
Posted 6:09 AM 19/7/08
@Chadders: I'm pretty sure he was talking about the violence of big FPSs (like Haze) not the use of the first person perspective. That being said, I do find Brian's (seemingly) sarcastic attitude towardonce of the Gaming greats a little disturbing (though I can understand if it's just bitterness after the dissappointing Nintendo E3 show).
JokesJokes
JokesJokes
Posted 5:56 AM 19/7/08
@Candlejack: What I had heard was that they were building a disk based console (for all you people who hate carts) together until the day before sighning a deal Pres of Nintendo looked at the new contract and noticed that it gave sony control over their characters and ips, thus signing all their big franchises (zelda, mario, metroid, etc.) over to Sony. Nintendo broke negotiations off with that litle slimeball Kutaragi and began making a cartrridge based consle, the N64. Kutaragi used what he had learned from working with nintendo to make the PS1... Granted, that's just what I heard so it could be a little distorted (though looking at kutaragi's smug little face I can't help but believe it). Does anyone know (and I mean know) what actually happened.
Also, poor Miyamoto! He cant even walk around E3 trying out games without massive speculation about his motives!
JokesJokes
Avinash_Tyagi
Posted 6:31 AM 19/7/08
lol, Miyamoto wouldn't be the gaming god he is if he didn't study game design. Just because he isn't making any first person shooter doesn't mean he can't gain insight from a first person shooter. I would have been surprised if he hadn't gone and played games for other systems and even genres he isn't a huge fan of. Remeber its the violence he's not a huge fan of, not the gaming perspective. Also he's already made games from first person, he was the brain behind making Metroid Prime in a first person perspective.
Avinash_Tyagi
zkotaku
Posted 6:30 AM 19/7/08
Miyamoto have you ever heard of killzone 2? :p I believe he wants to make a killzone 2 look a like game someday.
zkotaku
quen
Posted 6:19 AM 19/7/08
@AllegraStreit: It would be interesting, but yeah I doubt it. Somehow, I think what Miyamoto thinks carries an awful lot of weight at Nintendo; if he really, really wanted to make an FPS game he'd do it. (Maybe not an ultra-violent one; but after all, Nintendo published Metroid Prime, they could do something like that in-house if they wanted.) It would be really neat to see something like that, but on the other hand Nintendo are so great at making Nintendo-style games, maybe they should keep doing that.
Incidentally it just occurred to me, we know the big Nintendo 'core game' teams are working on new games (Two new Zeldas for Wii/DS, and possibly a new Mario or possibly something else) which won't be out for ages. Retro are second-party right? Do we know what they've been doing since MP3? That's probably another Wii game worth waiting for (and I expect we will certainly have to, since it's not even been a year yet).
quen
cluster1990
Posted 6:58 AM 19/7/08
whats wrong with a developer checking out what another developer is doing? even if he doesn't like the genera, the graphics are wild, the physics are most likely amazing, that's probably what he is looking at.
cluster1990
gencid
Posted 6:50 AM 19/7/08
I guess he's trying to understand why Western audience loves FPS-s so much. I guess Japan loving Pokemon is a no brainier from his perspective of our perspective on the Japanese video gaming market. Either that, or a FPS Kirby confirmed.
gencid
chris_wing
Posted 7:37 AM 19/7/08
So many comments, so many idiots.
chris_wing
chris16447
Posted 7:13 AM 19/7/08
If I was him then I would look at as many games as possible. I'd dissect them in my mind and analyse the design principles and such things. Oh wait, I already do that.
chris16447
bitnard
Posted 8:18 AM 19/7/08
does anyone know what the Japanese guy saying to his friend ?
just want to know what they feel about fps games ?
bitnard
Reneg
Posted 8:43 AM 19/7/08
@Abno: An excellently done, if frightening parody.
I'd rather see Miyamoto taking a look at Mirror's Edge. I think he'd be quite interested.
Reneg
Reneg
Posted 8:33 AM 19/7/08
He's always said he enjoyed first person games. And as I understand it he was partially responsible for changing Metroid Prime 1 from a 3rd person to a first person shooter (or adventure) game. I don't think he's big on unnecessary gore and violence though. He won't make an FPS himself like Killzone or Halo because the genre is too clearly defined and he'd rather try to do things differently. It would be interesting to see him make a Super Mario Paintball game even if the core fps gamers wouldn't give a hoot.
Reneg
Kamizzle
Posted 8:27 AM 19/7/08
It's so funny to see people treating him like he's the Jesus of gaming.
except without the dying for our sins ofcourse....
Kamizzle
wormguy
Posted 9:11 AM 19/7/08
Honestly, Miyamoto's been dropping hints for a while that he's interested in that shooter-style gameplay. I wouldn't be surprised if his next game is his own personal take on shooters.
wormguy
SG_Mahonay
Posted 9:29 AM 19/7/08
As a developer, if Miyamoto was standing there watching your game at your E3 booth, your balls would be quivering for dear life.
SG_Mahonay
Yam
Posted 9:27 AM 19/7/08
Maybe we will be getting Animal Crossing FPS next year!
Yam
Artful Dodger
Posted 9:26 AM 19/7/08
@TheTimeRanger: I'm not sure why, but I can't stop laughing at your comment. Well done!
Artful Dodger
Artful Dodger
Posted 9:25 AM 19/7/08
I'm not that good at reading lips, but I think Miyamoto said "Fuckin' sweet".
Artful Dodger
fearing
Posted 9:21 AM 19/7/08
@fearing: er, his GAMES, not GAME.
fearing
fearing
Posted 9:20 AM 19/7/08
@Kamizzle: Well, his game did kinda bring gaming back from the dead in a Lazarus sort of way.
fearing
fearing
Posted 9:19 AM 19/7/08
Man just cause Miyamoto didn't like Haze (now that we've tried it I'd say this only solidifies the man's intelligence) doesn't mean he has NO interest in FPS. The guy seems to take inspiration from everywhere, and remember he was the one who pushed Retro to take Metroid Prime from 3rd person to 1st, that seemed to work out nicely. I'm just glad to see he still is looking at and gauging what some people would call "hardcore" games. I'm looking forward to the new Wii sports a lot actually, but I hope to see him doing more traditional "games" as well.
fearing
KM91
Posted 9:17 AM 19/7/08
He has a pretty good taste in games. More power to him.
KM91
Mister Adequate
Posted 9:57 AM 19/7/08
Miyamoto didn't get where he is by being close-minded. Even if he dislikes shooters (though it seemed more like he wasn't impressed by Haze rather than the genre as a whole), that doesn't mean there's nothing for him to learn about/from them. There's always something a game maker can learn from a game, even a bad one in a completely different genre.
Mister Adequate
pyropetey
Posted 10:11 AM 19/7/08
ITS A NEW IP FOR NINTENDO O_O FPS !!
pyropetey
ChiChi_BBQ
Posted 12:45 PM 19/7/08
I was there when he was checking it out. He checked out Little Big Planet right after, which was adjacent to the Killzone 2 kiosk.
ChiChi_BBQ
SAMAS
Posted 1:20 PM 19/7/08
Although seeing Miyamoto work with the FPS formula would be interesting...
SAMAS
Gam3r
Posted 1:48 PM 19/7/08
Miyamato checked it out because he is a big fan of First Person Viewpoint games. He has stated that in the past.
Gam3r
dowingba
Posted 3:45 PM 19/7/08
Miyamoto is working on Killzone 3?!?!?
dowingba
SupaPhly
Posted 7:35 PM 19/7/08
but I tipped this to you guys earlier yesterday! >:(
SupaPhly
King Seafoam
Posted 8:33 PM 19/7/08
OH! Phew*!! thank god... I thought it was going to be something indecent.
King Seafoam
Kenofthedead
Posted 9:17 PM 19/7/08
Despite one disliking FPS, it is still one of the key areas we can see games evolving and changing.
Destructible environments, competent jet pack mechanics, mouse control, and much more came from FPS first or was expanded upon well in it first.
So why not look at them and see what idea you can take and make your own.
Just remember, Unreal Editor isn't used for FPS only anymore, and yet that is where we see a lot of the best stuff first.
Kenofthedead
crazyorloco
Posted 4:13 AM 20/7/08
"I've always been into first person shooter (FPS) style games, 3D games in which you can walk around freely and see things from your own point of view. " He describes the perspective as "more comfortable, more natural,"
-Miyamoto
[us.wii.com]
Miyamoto has always been into first person shooters. Come on Kotaku get your facts straight. He said he didn't like Haze, he's not saying all of the first person shooters in general. Lets not mix up his quotes yet again...
crazyorloco
Policroma
Posted 7:47 PM 21/7/08
I'm in the "he keeps up with the industry, duh!" boat.
Come on guys, you really think at a big convention like that he wouldn't wander around and see what the competition is up to?
Policroma
Swedomu
Posted 5:44 AM 19/7/08
He was probably interested in seeing Killzone 2, thats all. What i found fun is the big entourage he has^^.
Swedomu
SadiquaBabdis
Posted 5:43 AM 19/7/08
I bet he is thinking to himself- damn I wish the Wii had as good graphics as the ps3. Imagine a Mario game I could do if it had graphics like these.
SadiquaBabdis
ilmb13
Posted 3:10 AM 19/7/08
Shiggy doesn't like Haze like everybody else, so he hates fps games?
Ever see this Brian?
[us.wii.com]
ilmb13
stingjc
Posted 1:58 AM 19/7/08
Actually, Miyamoto loves FPS games. He originally wanted Ocarina of Time to be one. He sees a lot of potential in them, but they aren't very popular in his native Japan. However, Haze focused on drug use. That was the thing he didn't like about it. Or maybe because it was a pitiful game...
stingjc
freespeech
Posted 6:22 AM 24/7/08
slow news day huh????????
freespeech
GodKiller0
Posted 5:49 AM 19/7/08
It's totally normal that he checks out other games and systems, he's in the industry, nothing wrong with that.
Rock musicians listen to other rock bands then themselves, writers read books, film directors listen to other movies.
oh and killzone 2? It probably still runs on a good pc other then a hard to program ps3, the game will never look like most of the demos we have seen and the development takes a bit too long for my taste. It's probably just a big hype, and hypes can work like halo...damn that game is second rate
GodKiller0
Mitch Cumstein
Posted 4:45 AM 19/7/08
Miyamoto: "I could make Killzone 2.....well, just not on the Wii"
Mitch Cumstein
anNIALLator
Posted 4:01 AM 19/7/08
Haha, reggie's gonna beat him up now
anNIALLator
malmario
Posted 3:19 AM 19/7/08
maybe he wants to look the type of games wii doesnt have,
or maybe theyre thinking about publishing the conduit, I think it is interesting that they didnt even bring up the conduit or madworld at their presser and say that the wii isnt as graphically inferior to the ps3 and 360
malmario
asphaltdan
Posted 2:36 AM 19/7/08
lol @ post title! Sensationalist nonsense. "Caught" as though a games designer isn't allowed to see other games at a games convention!
asphaltdan
Stipey
Posted 1:10 AM 19/7/08
It's probably some sort of, well, not exactly secret anymore, fetish. Good taste though!
Stipey