@dv8godd: And that's not pathetic. Toilet paper is important. Unless you have one of those things that sprays water up your ass.

fadecy

@dv8godd:
Well they were bloody smug that they got exclusive GTA4 downloadable content.

Which seemd rather sad.

I think they were talking about how GTA had to be compressed for the 360 or something and the guy was like "YUSS but we has exclusive contents!"
On a gametrailers interview if I remember correctly.

fadecy

Awesome... I wish more old classics would get rebacked and published on PSN. Just hope the Price is right.

tormenta3001

I really hope for trophy support on this one. Not planning on getting SSHD.

Kyolux

i really dug 19xx games, but commando 3 was....ok. it wasn't the awesome experience i was thinking it was going to be. maybe it was too cartoon-y for my tastes. hopefully, joint strike will be better.

yeah, and what happened to BC?

jfx316

Dear Game Companies,

The war is over. Yes, that's right.
World War 1, and for that matter 2, are both over, dead, finished, concluded, past.
War games - just aren't fun anymore. Especially after the 300th one, where we had to command our troops into the same building as 40 games ago, only to have the same ending. We know what happens. We've played it countless times before.

Can you just let it drop? Once?
Maybe just give it a try? Please?

Let's stick to the future. It's bright, and has neon lights all over. Yum. <3

Sanjo

@fadecy: lol. yeah... never know what that bear will do. Deep pockets and a desire to see everyone else burn... I can imagine them throwing money at less.... just cuz they can.

It was much more interesting when they fought over big franchises... imagining them fighting over downloadable 194X rehashes would be kinda... sad and pathetic. Like a couple of old women in a grocery store arguing over who gets the last roll of toilet paper.

dv8godd

@dropoff: Profit. Simple. People are more likely to buy shiny objects then dull objects, you do the math.

I'm a classic gamer, this is the only conclusion I can draw.

PumpkinPieman

Ooooh. 1942. Mmmmm. Groovy.

Salen

@dv8godd:
Yeah I know. Just poking the bear.

The big money slinging green bear...

fadecy

If they would of cleaned up and re-released 19XX my life would be complete.

Ok not really.

Why do 2d games need to get polygon make overs anyway?

dropoff

@MSUSteve:

Ditto that. DITTO THAT. :(

vx2

meh...where are the new innovative games? i played this when I was a kid and it wasn't much fun then...

crobar

@fadecy: I doubt it. ;)

More likely, no one cared enough to change their usual schedule of when they release downloadable content.

XBL is wednesday.
PSN is thursday.

Nothing more sinister than that, I would venture.

dv8godd

Trophies? Yeah the reviewers havent bn too nice 2 this game... Time sha'll tell.

CMac1988

I can just imagine microsoft posting a letter throught the developers door.

"Hi. Here is $10,000 can we have the game earlier? Thanks. Love Microsoft XXX

P.S. We baked you a pie"

fadecy

Finally! 1942 and subsequent sequels rank among some of my favourite gaming memories when I was just a wee gamer, needless to say I've been looking forward to this since it was announced!

July 23rd cannot come soon enough!

xADFx

What about the game people really want: Bionic Commando?

MSUSteve

"Heard", not "hard"... grrrrrrr edit button needed.

Shiryu

Hard some bad reviews about it... shame, but I still wanna try it.

Shiryu

@drywaller79: Take a guess ;)

slomo788

@slomo788: Was that a joke? I'm a little slow sometimes.

drywaller79

Another MS exclusive...

slomo788

This must have missed my radar...but now I can't wait. i love the 1942 series!

Shinamano

@Sanjo: What would games be about if not war? ;)

Besides, 1942 had about as much in common with the reality of piloting a Spitfire in 1942 as... well, absolutely nothing. 99% of the game was pure fantasy... the only thing WWII about it was a few graphical elements.

It's hardly a war game by any stretch, really. After the first 400 kills and a few mega-planes the size of a city, no one is under any illusion it's anything but fantasy wrapped in some of the style of the times. Think of it as an art choice, not a genre... Galaga on Earth, if you will.

_____________________

@fadecy: True... but at least GTA stands to make them that investment back. At least it's got a better shot than the stuff at the bottom of the pile.

And, to be fair, Sony's assertion at that time that they don't pay for exclusive content probably had more to do with their financial woes over the laptop battery fiasco than some ideological split... they probably just didn't have the cash at the time to counter.

In the end, none of the three console manufacturers is very short of smug pride when it comes to what they have that the others don't. Being a pompous ass seems to be par for the course for the lot lately. ;)

As for old women fighting over toilet paper... it's not that the TP isn't useful... it's just kinda sad in the grand scheme of things. Fighting over food if you're starving... sure... but arguing over TP? I suppose I just don't care about my ass that much. Maybe i need better priorities.

dv8godd

@Kyolux: SSHD and 1942 or similar in that they're both arcadey shooters. as much as i can't wait for this, it's not likely to be a patch on SSHD. if it's trophies you want, you could do hell of a lot worse than stardust, that game is great.
in other words BUY IT.

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

@Sanjo: the original game came out LONG before the glut of WW2 shooters. this isn't exactly a historical shooter either.

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

@The Dude: You make me sick to my stomach.

I really, seriously hate this generation. It's filled with choosy motherfuckers who are unable to take responsibility for their choices, and are unable to accept that others have chosen otherwise.

360/PS3/Wii "battle" has been the most unpleasant time i've had being a gamer, EVER, and it's 100% because of the child-men who are completely incapable of using their brains for other things than wail for their mom whenever something doesn't go their way.

Rivalry, for no fucking reason. Great.

Sunjammer

@Kyolux: that's fair if you didn't like the demo. i haven't played the demo myself so i don't know if it's a good representation of the full game or not.

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

@noliferuin (PSN+XBL): I still have 1942 on NES on my 90ish games cart, and I loved the hell out of that game, only one other shooter on that cart was even better (it had you choose the power up you begin with, that's all I remember about it other then it was fun) oh and Twinbee was nice too..

Anyway on 1942 VS SSHD.. I tried SSHD demo, and I just didn't hooked for some reason. I want trophies as a bonus for 1942, but in now way its a priority.

Kyolux

M$ needs those exlcusives badly....
and they have the money to pay for it.

Anyway, I will have a look on that game on my PS3.
Waiting one day longer should be no problem ;-)

The Dude

I really wish they'd put 19XX on XBLA so my general awesomeness at that came can radiate outwards from my account like a big wonderful sun of being great.

Easily accessible online scoreboards are winmode for shmups.

Sunjammer

I play the 194X games a lot, but will pass this one up thanks to its desaturated art style. What a disaster of a design choice considering how vibrant the old games were.

keyrat

I'm definitely gonna buy this. (PS3)

Rainblood

@badasscat: But it will be in a box once you bought it. A big black box or a big white box.

Kyolux

@Sunjammer: And what's worse... it's not even a timed exclusive anyway. PSN releases on Thursday, XBL is Wednesday as a standard schedule.

It's one thing for people to act like useless pawns in this senseless war...
... but not even having the basic facts right is twice as sad.

dv8godd

This game needs to be in a box so I would actually buy it.

badasscat

@Sunjammer: right on.

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

IF this has trophies for the PS3 version, may pick this up

BUT the real question is....WHERE THE HELL IS BIONIC COMMANDO REARMED COMING OUT!?!?!?!?!

@drmcscott: I agree, the gameplay was okay but I really ain't a fan of the graphic style.

rockmanjoey

@PumpkinPieman: agreed, i guess a lot of the people buying games dont know much about 2d games. Megaman, Castlevania, Gunstar Heroes, Streets of Rage... the list goes on and on.

Its a shame because 19xx had very nice rendered graphics. Drab desaturated graphics have no place in a game where twitch control movements mean the difference between getting shot and getting shot 23 seconds later.

dropoff

All modern wars and conflicts are engineered by the Video Game-industrial complex to avoid hiring real writers.

KobaSounds

@jfx316: Commando 3 lost its charm with the oversized cel shaded graphics.

Oversized... bigger target.... less skill involved.

drmcscott

@dv8godd: I totally understand that, and I admit I did jump the gun. But when I hear/see/think of war games like this..It's -really- being dragged on, really..really.

Opinion, but im not hiding behind that. I really believe these games have gone on long enough. War games about wars nobody knew, and will never know are okay. You can add a nice spin on that, but WWI/WWII, it's become less of a historic war, and more of a profit.

Sanjo

@Sunjammer: I can't argue with anything you've just said. It's really taking the joy out of the discussion aspect of gaming culture, when there's all this needless 'MY console is better than yours' infighting. Kudos to those who couldn't give a shit because they're too busy having fun.

TearsandScreams

@Sanjo: I think the big problem with WWII games isn't necessarily the WWII theme itself... it's that the plot is largely the same. We typically get (insert allied soldier) facing (alone or with small squad) against the evil (Japanese or Germans) while acquiring better guns along the way.

I could take another WWII game if it was from the perspective of a German or Japanese soldier, or anything outside the usual mold... just not any more of this cheap/easy "Axis is teh evil" plot where you know the score before you even install the game.

In other words... it's not necessarily that WWII is completely played out... but that the regurgitated allied hero plotline is.

But that said... if someone came up with a WWII game where you played a conflicted German soldier in a psychological story of how he loves his country, but disagrees with the politics, in a personal struggle to find his place in the world... I'd be down with that.

They just need to start avoiding the cheap route to defining who the bad guys are. I too am tired of shooting Nazis, even if they're vampire zombie Nazis. Hell, I'm tired of shooting vampires and zombies too... the "other" easy evil in videogames.

dv8godd

I'll definitely be getting this one when it's available. Now they just need to bring a couple of more like it to the PSN. Such as Death Smiles, and any of the TouHou games. I love playing these things, the whole twitch control mechanic and frustrations over not having any bombs left with a screen covered in enemy fire. What's not to love.

cholinms

@Shiryu: I'm gonna try it, and if it's good, that's another bloody arcade title I need to buy Microsoft Points for, I mean seriously, where am I going to get the money to sustain this glorious arcade lifestyle?

AndrewG009

The new 1942: Joint Strike will include... music by Backbone Entertainment and a new score by Norihiko Hibino...

What? No love for the repetitive NES snare drum and one-note beeping? How could they ever have decided to change that?

ninjafetus

I almost mistook that screen for GTA4. For some reason early screens of this game looked more appealing to me.

Replica23

And still, no Castle Crashers.

Fermbiz

Can we get some color in this game, huh?!

SHEESH!

Why does everything have to be in sepia? Most games need colors so it doesn't mess up the gameplay.

I was playing Burnout paradise yesterday (at a friends house; I would never buy that crap) and it hit me that with the desaturated colors of the game it ruins the racing and avoind of cars. It makes it harder to see ahead of you becuase all you see are small black blobs. And also it reminds me of crazy taxi.

Also: wheres bionic commando

Netnavi

This, more than anything else, makes me want to get a 360 or PS3.

Eltigro

@dv8godd: Spitfire? What Spitfire? Last time I looked, 1942 and 1943 both featured the Lockheed P-38 Lightning, a twin-boomed American multi-role fighter that saw most of its active duty in the Pacific Theater. The name of the plane gives you an idea of where the special lightning attack comes from in 1943.

The Spitfire was a smaller British interceptor that saw most of its service in the European Theater of Operations.

Both were very worthy aircraft for their time, but they have almost nothing in common besides being prop-driven fighter aircraft in the combined Allied arsenal.

Vipre77

@Vipre77: Spitfire, P-38... whichever man... don't get your knickers in a twist, I was trying to make a point that this isn't a realistic WWII sim. ;)

I didn't research it, I was just commenting off the cuff to make a completely different point, and honestly... I don't really care all that much either way. I'm sorry if I offended you with an inaccurate accounting of an inaccurate game... but it wasn't my intention. I just had Spitfire on the mind because I'd been listening to Prodigy or something.

My point wasn't to discuss the specifics of 1942 beyond the fact that it's not a realistic WWII war game by any stretch. I mean, last time I looked, neither Spitfires nor P-38's shot lightning either... or 99% of the other shit in the game...

... so, technically, I can call it the Walrus MX-666 Mutha-Smacka for all it really matters. ;)

I mean... if I'm going to get the smack-down for flubs on WWII aircraft, then that's cool... but at least let it be in a real WWII flight sim. :D

dv8godd

I'm a sucker for classic games, and this updated take on 1942 looks pretty nice. I'll defintely have to check this out.

DugDawg

Another classic quarter muncher. Looks significantly better with the updated graphics, but I wonder if there will be slow down because of it. I'll download it depending on the price point.

gr8asianman

This game has some awesome color shades!

Brown.

Light brown.

Gray brown.

With bloom set to blend it all up into a soup of brown blur.

StormdragonBlue

i love the 19XX series

but no 360. darn it ! *curses and swears*

Mr.Sad