@PipTheLip: They either need to move the clock, or the battery charge level down. They overlap when you hit the PS button. DOn't know how they missed that tiny detail.

Amazon_Chris

I have it and it's working fine. The clock is the only feature I've benefited from thus far. Don't have SSHD.

I thought there might be a chance you could listen to music using in game xmb after pressing the PS button, but I guess that wasn't part of the deal this rollout.

Anyway, that minor feature would allow for some familiar tunes during abbreviated intermissions. I can understand giving the developer the discretion for in-game music for gameplay and mood, but who cares after I've pressed the PS button. Technical reason, I guess.

PipTheLip

2.4 is working great for me as well. where can i find what trophies are available for specific games (is there anywhere yet?)

demonknightinuyasha

@dynendal: Yeah...there are a lot of douchebags on message boards, huh?

I installed 2.40 without error and have been enjoying the new features. It's a shame more games weren't trophy enabled, as I've played about as much Super Stardust HD as I can stomach. ("Shock and Awe" and "Late Boomer" are fucking impossible.)

Still, I can see why 360 owners were so enthused about Achievements...there is some fun to be had waving your e-penis around.

Having the time display is a really nice feature too...I'm glad it's finally been included.

Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic

2.40 works perfectly for me. :)

ckleow

custom soundtrack in motorstorm? What, you guys don't like Every Time I Die? Shame on you.

hotdamn

Also, Activision needs to patch a ****ing invite system in GH3.

Amazon_Chris

I doubt fixing it will take too long. It wouldn't surprise me if they weren't already testing a fix.

But! I'll bet the biggest thing that will be occupying them will be how to fix all the bricked PS3s they've made without requiring people to re-format their hard drive or send their console in (or both). Either of which would be a PR disaster for Sony.

photoboy

Man, I'm mad. I was on vacation for the past few days, and missed the update. Now I can't even get it for who knows how long.

Arsenicberyllium

I wish Burnout would get that Trophy patch soon. I don't freaking have SSHD yet.

Amazon_Chris

Fix the new date/time battery overlay. It's just plain stupid!

Ricksterlau

I'm surprised this even happened, to be honest. Firmware updates are fairly common, and hang-up disasters happen frequently-- not just to the PS3, but to the 360, and to loads of other consumer electronic devices. That failed installations can wreck your fucking day-- that's common knowledge, and most hardware manufacturers understand it very well. Well enough to plan around it, and have a contingency plan in place so a failed installation doesn't result in ruined hardware. But apparently for all their our new consoles are basically supercomputers talk, neither Sony nor Microsoft felt compelled to have a great solution in place for the rather common event of failed firmware installations. Boo!

wild homes is weathering cephalopod trouble!

@SolidOni: I think 2.4 is cool, but yeah custom soundtracks on motorstorm would make me get it out again...

That was the best thing about Excite Truck... my friend and I got 100% in that game to a bottle of jager and a soundtrack of inspiring 80's pop songs :D

Astrofox

I have it. It works. Wonder what was wrong with it.... O_o

SirFenwick

@Astrofox: I agree, this is just the first 'phase' if thats what you want to call it. Cant wait to see some cross game chat/invite options =)

KennyLanzJr

haha, I'm such a dork. I spent all 4th of July morning getting the platinum trophy for SSHD

SilkRevolver

A couple guys on my forum were so excited for 2.40, and it hit, and they praised it over and over, and then it went down and everybody laughed at them. Now they won't even participate in the podcast and have left the forum completely.. hahahahahaha. So much anguish over a firmware update!

dynendal

It's probably a custom setting (theme, config etc) or something conflicting with the install... The actual firmware is fine.

I'd say do a backup and install from the net if your worried. It can't "brick" your system just mess up your HDD requiring a reformat.

In game messaging is so handy... cant wait for when cross game chat is implemented :)

Astrofox

Limited Edition firmware!

Struct09

I downloaded the update and I haven't really found any of it's new features particularly useful. There's a clock in the corner of the screen to constantly remind me that my PS3's internal clock is always a half hour fast no matter how many times I reset it.

Roto13

cant*

KennyLanzJr

@Corrin: you can downgrade..if you have it already than there arent any problems once you have had it installed/up and running. Its running nice on my PS3, i got it rite when it came out.

KennyLanzJr

I downloaded 2.4 successfully, not that it's all that great. All I wanted was the ability to play motorstorm without wanting to tear my hair out due to half assed soundtrack it has and I can't even do that :'( C'mon sony....

SolidOni

I think Sony wanted to have the pleasure of Bricking a few of their consoles. ;) Ok, no, not really, but I'm sure someone might say that.

Salen

yay for blog reminders

dashyt2dafulliz

@Corrin: Most people who have had problems with the 2.40 update had problems immediately after installing and restarting their PS3. So seeing as how your PS3 in unaffected I see no reason why you would need to downgrade. I am running 2.40 myself and I haven't run into any problems.

Ganglor

original dojo FTW

thejakeman: visit my site!

@karasu is my homeboy: @Corrin: As far as I'm aware from reading and personal experience, the trouble with the upgrade only occured during installation. If you made it through the installation you are fine.

I haven't noticed or heard about from a credible source of any freezing, lagging, or other errors, sides of course your run of the mill problems that have always been there :P

Aex

@Neo Deus:
2.40 is buggy as h*ck! This law breaking news has shaken the PS3 fanboy community to the core!

Corrin

Use at your own risk, backup your hdd (otherwise i would suggest skipping this altogether)

But for those who really want the update can find it uploaded here.
[www.filefactory.com]

[www.megaupload.com]

no one is responsible other than yourself for all that happens through this.

Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.

Could this firmware update explain why I see the HD light going on all the time? I've never seen it go on as much. Just going through the dashboard XMB and I see the thing light up for a few seconds.

kylo4

Hmm, at this point I cannot imagine any sort of Dojo that doesn't involve Sakurai's blandly off-kilter remarks.

Neo Deus

You can still download it...

Not from the Sony site.

It's like an electronic Russian roulette!

Kind of reminds me of that scene from the Deer Hunter.

GOD

2.4 is awesome. In game messaging is such a useful feature. In-game XMB is everything I wanted. Pretty much all the in-game community features were really the last major thing missing from the OS.

BoringJob

@Sailorcancer: Oh man, I would love a sleep timer on my ps3, often I play movies or games late at night and fall asleep, only to realize when I wake up, Niko has been standing in the middle of the street all night with a shotgun in hand :(

I'd also like it if the controllers turned off automatically after an hour of non use, but baby steps...

Aex

I still have 2.40 installed. Should I downgrade to 2.36 because something could happen to my PS3?

Corrin

It must suck to have to fix this, or most bugs and errors.

They obviously thought it was good to go when they released it, and then you find out it's making consoles freeze, lag, the XMB menu won't come up, etc. You thought you fixed all the problems before release, it must be really annoying and confusing to try to recreate and resolve the errors.

Have fun with that.

karasu is my homeboy

I have a feeling that this weekend "working on it" means drinking, lighting fireworks, and getting totally knackered!

StupidityTries

uhh so when can i get the super stardust team pack? i'm missing the trophy that requires it

shichi

You got me!

I came here thinking that it was up again... and then I saw that Italicized "still" :S

Reetesh

Wait, you didn't already download it Luke?

Ahsayuni

I wish Pixel Junk Monsters had trophies I have nothing to do right now...

Murderdolls

When it comes back up I want a freaking sleep timer included!

Sailorcancer

2.4 has worked fine so far for me.

hamandcheeseUK

I am soooo enjoying my trophies, fills the time between MGO games. :D

sorry, but im just glad it worked on my ps3, got it when it first came out, so maybe that's why.

Balmut

@Amazon_Chris: You're right. I never noticed because I didn't know a quick press of the ps button brought up the battery level, lol. I always press and held to bring up the Shutdown question which also shows the battery level. :)

PipTheLip

I have it installed and haven't had any issues. I've only played MGS4 on it. For those who can't wait, just remember:

The majority of the library does not have trophies yet.

Other than messaging, in game XMB is nearly functionless unless you wanted the extra step of having the PS tell you that you need to exit the game to change settings rather than just doing it.

It does kind of amazes me that it took Sony this long to release non working/partially functional features that should have been included at launch.

Alershka

@hotdamn: Wait... did you just blame Sony's customers for Sony's mistake? Now that's loyalty folks O_o

okenny :)

Don't worry about it too much. I DLed it right after it launched, and I can say it is an improvement, but not one that will likely tranform the experience to a new level of grandeur. The Trophy's are cool, but only in SSHD, and the in game XMB is essentially a practical upgrade, that is cool. Overall, don't worry if you don't have it yet.

PrivateJ0ker

do you think when they put it up again it'll be 2.4.1 or something... because as it is, 2.4 is giving me problems i definitely didn't have before. not a big thing like my console is bricked, but i'm having serious sound/audio issues with the orange box. everything else is fine though.

push eject

@Amazon_Chris: I'll tell you exactly how

"SONY NEEDS TO RELEASE 2.40 NOWWW"
"I WANT IN GAME XMB GODDAMNIT"
"WTF WHY CANT I MESSAGE MY FRIENDS IN GAME"
"LOL @ SONY PSN IS WORTHLESS I CAN'T EVEN [INSERT FEATURE HERE]"

sounds familiar?

And that is why little details like that didn't get caught. bummer, really.

hotdamn

@kylo4: Is that the orange light or the green one?

Amazon_Chris

@shichi: "uhh so when can i get the super stardust team pack? i'm missing the trophy that requires it"

You can download that from the in-game SSHD store menu option. Strangely enough the add-on pack isn't available on PSN. Weird...

Replica23

@Astrofox: I guess the next best thing to that is to play music through a stereo while you play the game, hoping for it to come.

My PS3 has been fine, but I have noticed the HD light being on a lot more than it was before.

kylo4

the bricking is a lie.

hotdamn

I think it was foolish for them to take it down, like people have said, I browsed a couple topics on sites like NeoGAF that asked people if their PS3's are broken after the update, and with over 40 pages of comments, there was 0 complaints.

DigiMish

@okenny :): you would've done the same for microsoft :>

hotdamn

@hotdamn: Yep. Sounds familiar. Damn people need to learn patience. I was perfectly fine with in game messaging on stuff like Rainbow Six until they could get the whole thing perfect for launch.

Amazon_Chris

@Revolutionary:
After it's installed, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the update.

this is incorrect, i am sorry.
there are obvious issues with some games and the update. read all the comments regarding cod4's multiplayer after installing 2.4

push eject

There's nothing wrong with 2.4!!!!!!!!!!!

Get that in your heads!

The only problem was that some people had downloaded an incomplete file (or something to that effect), which caused the PS3 to mess up during installation.

After it's installed, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the update.

Jesus Christ, you people feed into FUD like no tomorrow.

Revolutionary

@Amazon_Chris: The orange light is the HD light, the green is the wi-fi. I'm just seeing the HD light a lot and wondering it it had something to do with the new features buffering more off the HD or something since prior to the update, just flipping through from System settings to friends list didn't make the HD light go off.

kylo4

everyone with me...

ahem.

IN-GAME-X-M-B! IN-GAME-X-M-B!!

subterfunk

@hotdamn: LOL Good one! You'd think you'd have proof of me taking blame for Microsoft's fuck-ups as they have soooooo few of them ;)

okenny :)

Man I am sorry for those of you who did not get this update. It works totally fine with me, and it's exactly what people were crying about to begin with. Thanks Sony. :)

Samicham85

Runng 2.4 with no problems here. I'm lucky I guess.

symeon6

@symeon6: *Running 2.4* Sheesh.

symeon6

@toefer:

Same as you!

EnigmaNemesis

I'm running 2.4 with no problems, except for not being able to get trophies. You know, because I don't have SSHD. Hurry up Criterion! Hurry up Incognito! Hurry up Naughty Dog (sure I'll play Uncharted again...again).

toefer

@photoboy: it didn't brick any consoles, there's just data loss in that if it screwed up, you need to reformat the HDD

kathartik

@toefer: Seconded perfect excuse to re-replay uncharted

Rockwallaby

@dynendal: I still parise it it's an awesome update if you got it installed

Rockwallaby

wait, so there is no private chat invite feature with the 2.4update? WTF is the point of in game messaging then if i can't create a private chat? I mean the whole point is to not have to keep messaging back and forth but to have a static connection for communication. Epic Fail, as far as I'm concerned. but then again maybe its because I'm used to the features that are already on my 360. The one thing I'm loving about my ps3 right now is how well the blu-ray disc's sound on my new surround sound system. I love the Best Buy credit card!

RgvXavi

@photoboy:

Nothing will be a PR disaster quite like RRoD.

No matter how much people wanna spin this very small margin effected out of proportion.

Especially when it was data corruption, which is common in any type of memory interfaces.

EnigmaNemesis

@Revolutionary: There's nothing wrong with the update... that's why Sony pulled it. LOL

sachow

@SilkRevolver:
I'm sorry but I think that's what a Trophy whore is. I THINK!
Welcome to the club.

IntelSilver

I have just got my first trophy and it was off of Stardust HD :D

Xcite79

lol I was unaware that there was/is a problem. I downloaded it and everything is fine. Well except for the fact that someone on my friends list is playing SSD to get trophies. That's not ok.

Aflack: Likes slushies

@rbernard80:

Same here!

EnigmaNemesis

@sachow:

If there was something wrong with it ... EVERYONE would have been effected. It is a program ... 1's and 0's ... it either is broken, or it isnt. And judging that the mass, very large mass, is unaffected ... chances are it is something else entirely.

There was some data corruption due to a VERY small amount of people getting cut off in the middle, or accidentally effecting in during install.

Sony just did the rational thing, because if they didnt pull, some fanboy internet sluts would have their way with that.

Damned if they do, damned if they dont.

EnigmaNemesis

What really bugs me is that they pulled the Super Stardust HD 4.0 patch as well. I downloaded 2.40 fine and dandy in the wee hours of the morning and the install had no problems, but even with 2.40 I've got nothing to try out the trophies on because I didn't play SSHD in the brief period of time the 4.0 patch was out.

rbernard80

@Mongoosekun: or Tempest in a Teapot :)

PipTheLip

*FOR EVERYONE THAT MISSED 2.40 UPDATE* LOL ITS AWESOME HAHA YOU MISSED OUT, AND IF YOU DOWNLOADED, IT OULD OF BRICKED YOUR PRECIOUS PS3 HAHA. IN GAME XMB IS AWESOME, but sucks for me because i don't have super stardust HD to spend some time earning trophies. Dam the stupid chase bank and its bank tellers, it was them you hear me!!

alucardremixed

@EnigmaNemesis:

So far all the issues have been user error and preexisting hardware issues.

1. You can't flip the machine off while flashing.

2. If your **OSLv2 crashes before 240 it'll still crash -- you need to get your HDD or console replaced.

Neither have anything to do with 240 firmware.

Mongoosekun

@Corrin:

No problems once it is installed period. The 'issue' is a faulty install. Honestly? If you have it installed laugh at all the people that got behind the FUD like this site and 1up. You should read the official Playstation blog for firmware information and not this site. It's been reiterated many times once you have it installed you're good to go.

Storm in a teacup.

Mongoosekun

@frak-frakistan: I actually managed to download the update, and no problems, but I am sort of afraid that something awful will happen.

And this might be just semantics, but when the update goes live it probably will be 2.41 or something like that not just 2.40.

artofwar420

you can download 2.40 off the Internet it is available on sevreval PS3 sites.

and no it won't brick your ps3 only a few percentage have been affected

frak-frakistan

i got the update as soon as it launched and am happy to report no problems yet.

and i don't think i'll encounter any coz its been like 4 days

frak-frakistan

@Sailorcancer: A background download feature like the 360's (powering down keeps downloads active until they finish) would be welcome as well.

Altersparck

After the update was pulled and hearing about all of the issues with the update, I decided to search for it on google and download it. It didn't seem to be extremely threatening, plus there was a fix for it just in case something went wrong. It installed just fine on my 60gb ps3, and I haven't encountered any other issues while playing. I bought Super Stardust HD, got a bunch of trophies, and I am overall very happy that I decided to take the "risk" in updating. I love the in-game xmb, which should have existed in the first place.
The trophy thing is annoying though. In Super Stardust HD, you can only unlock half of the Trophies with the "regular" game. To unlock the other trophies you have to get the "single player pack", which is an additional 5 bucks. Then later on I found out you have to get a "coop pack" to get another trophy, which is ANOTHER additional 5 bucks. This trophy system seems to be just a bait and switch to sucker you into buying add-on content. To make things worse, this isn't the only game that is doing it either. If you want your precious trophies, get ready to start buying them.

Ed_209

2.40 works fine for me.... Except trophies. I played pain and got some but they dont show up in my trophies.

n42

@RgvXavi: The point is that you don't need to exit a game now to message your friends back. I don't know what I'd do without 2.40 now. It's Such a VAST improvement over everything that came before. It's a shame some people are having a problem with the update. It truly is something special.

@n42: Dude, not all games are supported by trophies yet, Super Stardust HD is the only game that has them for now. The trophies you collected are the in-game trophies for Pain. Theyre not PSN ID Trophies

@Ed_209: I agree, dude. I realised I had to download the single player pack in order to obtain a few of the tropies, then i find I need the co-op pack (which isnt even out on the eu servers yet) for ONE trophy. Hopefully it'll just be for the DLC games. I'd hate to think youd have to download an update for uncharted or something to grab one of the trophies too. That'd suck.

Primebuster

The 2.40 feature I like most is that in the PS Store, now you can download a movie by pressing X instead of Start. It was totally inconsistent with anything else and I'm glad they finally fixed that :).

Grauw

@Mongoosekun:

I know that.

EnigmaNemesis

@Grauw:

You could still use X the old way, you just had to push right on the D-pad to highlight the Start Button on screen.

But yeah, they took out the step if you only have one storage device which is nice.

EnigmaNemesis

I have an weird problem and thats about these darn trophies. I go to game section, press trophies collection and then it says there is no trophies, but I have superstardust and warhawk. Anyone know whats that all about? And I manage to get to an new planet omn superstardust and no throphie was awarded.

xiked

i can't much longer.....i'm so bored BRING IT OUT PLEASE ERIC LAMPEL DAMMIT!!!!!

Tekkai

@Altersparck: Something I truly appreciate about the 360; agreed.

Omnimon

@hotdamn: Or you can just not place blame, own all 3 current-gen systems, not have a bias, and take it for what it's worth: a failed firmware update that can solely be placed on Sony's shoulders. :p

Omnimon

I don't know who's working on the update, but it's a three day weekend. BTW, I noticed this website was also down for a prolonged period of a day or two this weekend.

jsf49

@EnigmaNemesis: If i had to guess the cause of the brick i will guess for a hard drive database problem.

Each start the PS3 check it's internal database (A cache of all the games, saves, music, films and all the metadata displayed in the XMB) and rebuild it if corrupted with the message "The hard disk's database will be rebuilt" (You loose all of your folders and organization in this case).

Now, this database may have to contain all information about trophies so the update to 2.40 will update the file format.

What i guess is that if there a corruption of the database file (Or files i don't know) the firmware update just hang, totally unable to do anything.

This could explain that the bricks are rare (HDD problems doesn't happens so often) and that this firmware update is more affected than the previous ones (A new type of data is now stored in the database as trophies were added so the database need an upgrade)

Anyway I have seen on forums that some persons report that after bricking the PS3 and partially formatting the drive the PS3 sometimes see the old partition and is able to rebuild itself and get back some save games (It guess that it is the non-psnID-locked save games) the problem really seem to bet in the database used to store information for the XMB.

virtualblackfox