Thank you Cryptic for having the balls to announce a project. This will finally pressure Bioware into revealing their KOTOR MMO and I can finally dance in the beautiful glow of knowing I told you so.

Bobby McPresscott

@dv8godd:

From what I recall of Perpetual's development, the MMO is slated to take place 20 years after the events of Nemesis.

I just hope Cardassians are a playable race.

Lightbunny

If I can't find a planet where I will be worshiped as a God, I want no part of this.

Sabash

@freakout: I TOTALLY agree!
It's all well and good to say "Star Trek was never about a single character, ship or even planet.." but, acutally, it WAS always about a single ship! jeezus.
That's why the shows were always named things like Enterprise, Voyager, Deep Space Nine...
The thing that made always made Star Trek great was getting to know the tight-knit group of people sequestered away on their SHIP. How they got to know each other, relied on each other, slept with an android, put on plays together, pretended to enjoy trombone recitals and had a good laugh or profound moment at the end of each episode.

PS> Why is it neccessary for all Sci-Fi games to feature gigantic mushrooms?

trigger2

@Koztah: When the project was first annouced i remember them talking about implementing something like this, where a ship being successful was dependant on different people filling different roles (e.g shilds, weapons engines etc) but i haven't heard anything about it from the new developers.

Infact if i remember correctly, they said they were going to make the game more "casual" instead of the above method

samr2d2

I might play this. I really miss the Trek universe. I have no idea how it plays, or if it will even feel like Star Trek - but if it does, I will probably there.

Hoping for a new Trek series one of these days - and that it manages to not be terrible like Enterprise and actually FEEL like the Star Trek Universe.

sir_carrot

@freakout:

I don't think I'd want every Tom, Dick and Harry running around with their own ship as though it were a WoW mount.

The only interesting way I see of having player-controlled ships would be if they were guild/faction based - kind of like Age of Conan guild cities or City of Heroes headquarters.

The size of the ship would depend on the size of the Guild (or "Crew", which would be more appropriate) - then the type of ship would be worked at by the guild members who would each fill a crew position depending on their character type.

So, if you make an engineering type you'd be in engineering, if you had a science type you'd be a science officer, medical to sickbay - and each ship would have different requirements of number of personnel and skill level for each station.

Koztah

What, no report on the chili cook-off event?

Nillard

Wow makes me want to be a Trekkie and play MMO's!

Talryyn

Hmm wonder if it'll play like phantasy star online. Away mission could work in that manner.. but what kind of loot an be expected?.. Federation is almost all uniform and the occasional dress down. I can see Klingon's having cool stuff. And I can't recall allot of variety in the weaponry.

But... the potential of excessive heavy breathing over voice chat means I won't be playing.

blizzardjesus

star trek -check
possible tng era -check
mmo -check
good developer -check
nice screens -check

sold, next!

darbonne

If my shirt can rip, and I can bed any green lady in the galaxy, I may have to pick it up. ;)

-EDGE-

Im looking forward to grinding though millions and millions of tribbles.

robbie158

Show screenshots that only quad cores can run, naturally.

This has huge potential to suck. It also has the potential to be cool. Which will it be?

Jas49

WTS Federation Type-M Tricorder. WTB Klingon D'k Tahg.

Shiryu

I'm going to create a Star Wars-themed character, pay someone to level my guy up insanely fast, then I'm going to grief every damn Trekkie to hell and back.

"Sir, we can't launch the Enterprise."

"Why not?"

"Because the last 10 times, someone named 'Darth_Vader_PWNS_U' has been camping our spawn and murdering us."

"Use the phasers!"

"We've tried...he just...just...shoves them right up our asses."

Tyber_Zann

Oooo those look nice but I want to know what the timeline is and what the actual PCs will look like. The logo looks like the original era...

chirokitsune

Please.... TNG era or slightly post it.

Para

OHH LAWDY am i excited for this

Naif

I have the@freakout: my sources say it was "ships" that hurt previously STO-dev efforts.

so hard to do right.

at least we still have TrekMUSH. /evilgrin

rainofwalrus

@dv8godd: We need to warn NASA about dirty rugs in outer space!

everybest

Looks good, but I'm not convinced until they show some characters. Almost looks dull.

everybest

This looks REALLY good. I wonder if it's for Star Trek fans only, I never got into any of the series/movies.

splin

@Maverick128, @Shakespeare:
This was always one of my favorites...

+ Watch video

So many good lines.

"No kill I? What, is that a plea for us not to kill it?"
"I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer"

And Nimoy's acting: priceless.

dv8godd

Cool, though this project was canceled.

boots555

@freakout: Note to self: refresh page before posting.

freakout

@Rob Phelps: Doesn't seem to be. The artwork on the website is all TNG-era stuff.

freakout

D'oh, looked at the site. Big shot of the 1701-E. Guessing it's set in the TNG movie timeline, i.e. as far into the future as Trek has gone thus far. Best thing they can do, I think.

Rob Phelps

Starbases look pretty 'modern'. We sure it's TOS?

Rob Phelps

@dv8godd: Baywatch in Space? Zero-G Gainaxing?

I might have to give that show another chance.

Feba

Galaxy or Soveriegn... TNG FTW!

mastergamer1213

If they do this right, they might as well cancel the Star Trek conventions now.

"Space... The final frontier...
These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise.
Its eternal mission:
To explore strange new worlds...
To seek out new quests; new loot...
To boldly poop sock where no one has poop socked before!"

frickinharlem3

I agree with Jack Emmert, if they do it right this has more portential to work out nicely than a MMO based on a comic universe or one based on Star Wars. In those things the story is always based around a core cast of very important persons (the super heros/villains/the jedi/the leaders of the dark side) so its difficult to do a mmo cause everyone wants to be or work with one of those few important and known guys which yeah, can´t work out. In Star Trek they have so many different crews on different ships/stations/worlds know to the masses that i imagine one could way easier position the player in one of the many sub plot areas and still make him feel important.
Hope they don´t screw it up.

tomsamson

@Sparkyuk: Development was changed from Perpetual to Cryptic, and even when it was under Perpetual, we only saw one screenshot. This is pretty significant.

@Fallible: As far as I know, it's already in beta!

@Shiryu: "Science Officer LFG! ... Come on, guys! ... I can do science! ... please? :("

Fnor

surely this has been known about for over a year, or was it officially cancelled?

Sparkyuk

@Shakespeare:

Gotta love a classic!

MrGutts

Stargate MMO. Get on it.

Fallible

@Shiryu:
LOL, nice.

Maverick128

@Maverick128: Dammit, Jim, im a Healer, not a Tank!

Shiryu

From the site, it looks like it'll be next-gen era with Federation/Klingons as the playable "factions." I want my own Defiant-class ship. I already put up a plea to Cryptic on the official forums for a PS3 version.

Maverick128

@DigiMish: You mean "Baywatch in Space"? Yeah... that was... um...

To it's credit, it seemed to be something of a "reboot" in itself. But it just didn't have the right realism in the right places. Two steps forward, two steps backward.

It didn't change that it was campy, just changed the "ways" in which it was campy.

I still watched them all and enjoyed them for what they were... but... could have been lots better.

@shaunomacx: I liked them all, for what they were.

Of course, so much entertainment is only appreciable in it's own particular "time and place". Some things, like Shakespeare's video, just don't age all that well. :)

dv8godd

@freakout:

Same here, but I also want ships from the Klingon/Romulans.. Always liked Klingon Bird of Preys :D

Hitokiri151

The grinding is probably pretty rough... at least in the beginning you're always going to be that unnamed crew member guy who gets killed after beaming down to the planet. It's not until you get enough levels to have your name in the credits that you have a chance of not getting killed.

Eltigro

@cookiesareafriend:

Let's not forget this classic as well.

+ Watch video

PvP FTW.

Maverick128

@freakout:

Aliens that are outrun by a snail are no threat and that's why that episode and the fight are so lame.

The rest are just added lameness.

Wahrheit

Dribs on playing Shatner!

Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer

@cookiesareafriend: You might be better off just fondly remembering it... for all the hilarity of the fight scene, Arena is a pretty shitty episode. Badly written, badly paced, cliche` all-powerful aliens, stupid "message". Shatner's scenery-chewing performance is the only thing that saves it, really. (But then, doesn't he always?)

freakout

Beam my VISA out, Scotty!

Shiryu

@dv8godd: i only loved the Original Series and some DS9 the rest was shall we say, unfortunate?

shaunomacx

@dv8godd: I would love that. Ever since the cancellation of Enterprise, Star Trek has come to a halt.

DigiMish

@Shakespeare:

Is that the one where he reinvents gunpowder?

JakeDunn

@shaunomacx: And here I was just thinking... "I hope it's not the campy OLD trek... i hope it reboots like the upcoming movie, pisses off all the fans, and drops a lot of the twisted core material... no red shirts, please"

After so many decades, I'm just completely burnt out on what Star Trek "was". I still like it... but I just can't see paying attention to new material that heads down the same path.

Of course, I've only seen every episode, own all the movies and half the series' on DVD... but I'm not a "true" fan because I don't have a collection of bat'leth or speak Klingon fluently. :)

But a universe "reboot" of sorts, like those of BSG, Doctor Who, James Bond, and the upcoming movie... I could do that.

I'm not against the old material... just a feeling that new material is more interesting and engaging when re-envisioned with a more modern angle on how we perceive the world, rather than looking at the world through 20-30 year-old glasses.

But that's probably just me.

dv8godd

I see lots of different starbases... but where are the damn starships? So help me God, if they make an MMO Star Trek game without the ability to command your own ship, they will have missed the point so completely.

Me, I want an Intrepid or Defiant-class ship. Small, fast, manouverable. I want to take it out, exploring strange new worlds and turning rival alien tin cans into scrap. I want to be able to command "ALL POWER TO WEAPONS!"

Eagerly awaiting the webcast...

freakout

@Shakespeare: fuck yes. I must buy this episode.

cookiesareafriend

@Shakespeare:

I KNEW someone would link that.

Wahrheit

Mehhh cool, as long as I can give my Cpt. Picard look-a-like two submachines guns and a Rambo knife I'm in.

CHU BOI

Trekker delight if they do it right. This seems so far to be only for the fans, so I'll skip.

Wahrheit

As long as it lets me play out this scene:

+ Watch video

Shakespeare

Could they make the game any darker?

Elliuotatar

man i love OLD trek....i really hope this does the core material justice!!! Red shirts included

shaunomacx

Hmm, I don't like the idea of any MMO conventions, especially some of the more tedious ones getting in the way of the gameplay, such as go here mine 10 of these or kill 5 of those. If I can have intriguing missions like get my physical resemblance changed from a human to look like a Cardassian so I can infiltrate the military as a spy, that involved sneaking in via a prototype ship that can evade detection and meeting up with an informer deep inside Cardassian space, then getting briefed and fooling all the people there for a while before getting my cover blown, and finally hijacking a ship and escaping by the skin of my pants, then hunting down and killing the informer that betrayed me - count me in! (takes a deep breath!). But it sounds like that's gonna be more of an Oblivion style sandbox single player game.

Or failing that, let me be Q.

Pudgey

@everybest: Plus that bowling balls found in space are actually eggs. Poor Horta was only protecting its eggs. :(

@Lightbunny: I'm not so worried about the "timeline" being the "reboot"... so much as the approach to and style of storytelling. It could take place at any time in the universe timeline... I just would like to see them hit a kill switch on the tired formulaic style rut that the series ran into, if that makes sense.

Like how the original BSG was made for kids... but the new one assumes that we've all grown up a bit and can talk about big people things now.

I hate sci fi that panders to me like I was 9 years old... or when it's idea of "growing up" is simply to have more "'splodey things".

I want more "maturity" from the universe and less "20 minutes of babble about fake technology", basically.

dv8godd

Damn, this is awesome news. It seems like it was only just yesterday that I was bitching about there not being a Star Trek MMO (or a good Star Wars MMO) --- now I can have either one... or both.

LUCYMONO

This has so much potential yay.

Knowing NC Soft though, it might be all boo. :(

AndrewDB

I remember reading about this a while back and I was super-excited. Still am, yo!

Platypus Man

NO TIME TRAVEL.

Evil Tortie's Mom

@rainofwalrus: Aw. (makes disappointed face) Then again, the only games that've ever really come close to getting Trek-style space battles right was Star Trek: Legacy, but it was too watered-down and arcade-y.

God it was beautiful though. The ship models were fantastic. And it let me live out all those childhood fantasies of "What if Kirk's Enterprise and Picard's Enterprise were to fight?" (Although my fantasies went on a bit longer than the 30 seconds or so it takes the Ent-E to turn the Ent-A into atoms...)

@Koztah: I'd be happy for them to make you work for it - work really hard, even - but excising the ship element from the game completely is definitely not tthe answer for a Star Trek game, methinks.

Love the idea of letting other players take the various roles, though... ideally, you could also command a ship with AI players, but they wouldn't be half as clever and you wouldn't get as many bonuses. I suppose high-level players could be the captains, and you have to serve x amount of time as a crew member before you get to sit in the big chair.

@trigger2: Damn straight! Having your own ship would give you a deeper connection to the game, I reckon. After all, bonding with your ship is a big thing in Trek. It's vitally important, so that you feel really down when you have to initiate self-destruct in order to take the bad guys down with you. ;)

freakout

Oh I wanna try...

I hope clans and organizations can have ships, that would rock

GodKiller0

How are they going to make doing things with your humanoid avatar fit the MMO game style and still be true to the background material? It won't make sense shooting something 20 times with a Kill-setting phaser, nor will it make sense for Federation personnel to be running around killing things in the first place. And what about gear? Most MMO's are built around keeping you attached to the game by making you grind endlessly for the gear necessary to successful progression, and the Fed fleet is a military organization that issues all the equipment you need. I'd like to see a move away from item grinding, and Star Trek is an innovative setting to attempt that in, but given the scent of cash-in that the upcoming movie gives this project, I can't say I'm convinced that innovation is something they'd be aiming for. EVE online has done a great job making a successful ship-based MMO so I'm not too concerned about the space aspect, but the last game to try and integrate space combat with a personalized avatar to go planetside, Star Wars online, bombed horribly.

Then there's the question of scale. The galaxy is huge, and the distances between Romulus, Earth, Cronus and Vulcan, vast. They obviously aren't going to make it take weeks to get from one world to the next, nor will they make planets of any realistic size. I'd love to be able to interact in a fully realized Trekverse, but there's so much that can be messed up here that I'm more worried than excited :/

AngryLagomorph

What? TNG-era? Noooooo I wanted to play an Enterprise-era Andorian, or a DS9-era Cardassian.
Or, for griefing fun, ENT-era Tellarite/DS9-era Ferengi.

and goddamnit, they're probably not going to let you play romulans. Or borg (reformed borg, a la 70f9?). Or even, um, whatever the hell Gainan was again. I used to know.

eskilla

@dv8godd: Baywatch in Space. Nice.

It got my wife into Star Trek (and helped her realize she has some lesbianic tendencies when Vulcans are involved) so it's not all bad....... but I kept turning to her, everytime they were lathering each other up in the decontamination chamber, and going "It's not supposed to be like this".

Billkwando

@freakout: I think you meant to say Starfleet Command and Bridge Commander.

Legacy was rubbish, pure and simple.

rainofwalrus