@M-26-7: Not me!

EvilMetsFan

Everybody seems to want every game to come with multiplayer these days. I remember when people were satisfied with just a good story. Now it seems like would prefer absolute shite story and good multiplayer.

M-26-7

@PsycheE: Actually the ending is a little different depending upon whether you harvest any little sisters or not. If you harvest even one little sister you don't get the other ending; AFAIK, IIRC, etc.

robinandtami

@Kaizuden: You expected something more? This is a quick buck port. The real creative team is off working on BioShock 2.

Ill try to get my hands on this for some trophies

@jerimas: As for you..that makes no sense since they are the exact same as they were in the 360 so whats different now?

parad0x360

@DotDotDot: Only new too people who want to play it on PS3. Obviously. Maybe not everyone has a 360 to get those acheievements? See what they did thar?

EvilMetsFan

I have to say, I've been against the idea of Achievements for a long time. Mostly because of some irrational hatred for the damn things (and I feel that Achievements/Trophies are arbitrary and in a way, commodify the gaming experience), but this stuff sounds really interesting.

Basically, I'm saying that I welcome my descent into Achievement/Trophy whore-dom.

jerimas

When I worked for Ziff-Davis in San Francisco, Alyssa was one of my room mates. She's awesome! She had a job at a game company where one thing she had to do was support for a online Prodigy (or was it CompuServe?) game, a one-move-per-day space conquering game. You emailed your moves in. The way people went nuts when a glitch caused their previous moves to be repeated, it was insane! Just like people are today on teh Internets. Lol! But she dealt with it. People don't change, technology does. Great to see she now does cool stuff! Games with *graphics*!

natpoor

Err 360 achievements even..

Rask

If they stick with the 260 achievements, it should be an easy set of trophies to get for everyone.

I was 2 achievements shy of getting the full 1000 gamerscore on 1 playthrough of the game.

Rask

@samdu: why not? I mean MGS4 was a story based, atmosphere driven game, that had a relatively functional multiplayer system (it's pretty good but the registration process is annoying). I mean there are some people that don't spend $60 solely for the single-player aspect regardless how good the game is. I just think it would add value to an otherwise steller game.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

Both of those tropies were achievements on the 360 version of BioShock. Instead of achievements they just give trophies. It's not really new...

DotDotDot

@immikeulate: Aside from the different endings there aren't a lot of things that you can do differently on multiple play throughs, but it's such an awesome game that you'll probably want to beat it more than once.

Deathwalker9000

So pretty.

Oh Bioshock, I've watched and admired you for so long. Shh, shh, it's okay... No, I know you've been with other systems, and it's okay. Soon we'll be together, and that's all that matters.

Between you, LBP and the wicked cool stuff coming to PSN this year, I just keep gettin' happier and happier with my PS3.

Chances

@Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!:

Why... WHY would you want multiplayer in a story based, atmosphere driven game? Not every game needs (or benefits from) multiplayer! Co-op at MOST.

samdu

I'll likely play it again on PS3 for the new content and trophies. I cannot believe I said that.

Replica23

So basically they are going to be copying ever achievement from the xbox over right...

Gravnar

I can't wait. That should be good. Hopefully they'll have more suprises for the PS3 iteration of Bioshock, like new ending, more rooms, new enemies and multiplayer. I doubt they'll be multiplayer, but a guy can dream can he.

On a related note, I hope Rockstar patch GTA4 to include trophies. I haven't completed the game yet and i'll be glad to start all over to get trophies.
And yes, I'm waiting for MGS4 trophies so I can't try to get Big Boss Emblem.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

@djricekcn: I've never played BioShock, but I'd imagine it to be some sort of "Vitality" devivice that restores your health. Purely a guess though.

EvilMetsFan

@immikeulate:
Its a solid rent, but you do have to play it at least twice.
With the two(ok 3ish) different endings and all.

hk458

@PsycheE: So, that means you can beat this game without killing an enemy? Or is it something like a knife / punch? If so...I'll try that out. I'm one of those fools that got tricked by the AKUMA cheat for R.E. 2 and actually pulling it off.

djricekcn

Uhm...I really didn't think the Trophy "tiering" was optional. If you have trophy support, you have Bronze, Silver, Gold and ONE Platinum Trophy...period. That said, wouldn't "Trophy Support" tell the same story in fewer words?

The Yam!

@djricekcn: A device that revives you each time you die. It'll make sense if you ever get a chance to play the game all the way through.

trogam

@djricekcn: Its a Live-enabled system which allows you one free 800 point game if you can finish the game without dying nor firing your gun once.

Checkpoint.

PsycheE

So I never played through the game on the 360, I had too much going on at the time. Is this game worth a buy or is is a solid rent. Basically I'm asking is it worth mutliple play throughs?

immikeulate

booyeah.

zkotaku

What in the hell is "Vita-Chambers" I never played this game

djricekcn

@DigiMish:

There's a mod out, I believe it's called "Challenger," that gives you a challenge like killing ten Big Daddies at once or solving a puzzle of some sort to get to the end. You choose something like three plasmids and a gun, and go at it swinging.

It's kind of cool, as they are all fan made and new ones come out constantly.

PapaBear434

lol guess ima make my balls bronze ... hope that doesn't interfere with my love life

lilaliendog

Own it on the PC, and I enjoyed it enough although I have no plans on buying the PS3 version. I do however hope they release a demo so I can do a side by side comparison of the PS3 and 360 versions without renting or buying the two games.

Heyyou27

i might have to get this since my 360 rrod'ed on me in under 100 hours of gameplay.

viva la ps3, lol.

VixDiesel

Looks like they stuck with the 360's acheivments. Hopefully the trophies that you can use in home look really cool, Maybe a big daddy head.

goboard117

Can't wait to play this! Bioshock actually tempted me to get a 360, but I came to my senses. :D

Vidril

How about a secret ending?. I was appalled when I finished the game and frenetically searched GF for a non-existing alternate ending; to my dismay.

PsycheE

The wording in that second paragraph kind of leads to believe that there will be some new enemies. Was it confirmed that there would be a new version of the Big Daddy for the PS3 version?

chuffhoncho

I just want one of my three games (Warhawk, GTA4, Rainbow Six: Vegas 2) to actually have trophy. Warhawk is suppose to upon the next update, but who knows how long that may take.

Eh, all in due time, I suppose.

PapaBear434

At least you don't get trophies for something lame like, "Defeat 30000 splicers".

hk458

Ohhhhh.....flavors.

Is the update safe for me to DL now? Because I'm hesitant, just want to know.

jenovasilver

Vita-Chambers turned off on hard? That sucks.

Oh well, I have the best version there is - PC.

DigiMish

So basically, the same achievements for the 360. Some secret huh.

Kaizuden

Was planning to play the PC version again, but may as well wait and buy this version :)

Fluffy22

I've already played Bioshock through twice on the 360, but I might do another run through on the PS3 version to get some trophies, and to experience this great game again (it's been a while, y'know?). Trophies sound similar to the achievements that were in the 360 version. Word.

dj_fantastica

i might just have to return to rapture one more time.

mosumi

Never had the time to play this one when it came out, looks like it's a good thing that I waited :-D

JimElNino

So....a game that I completed last year is coming out...and it has the same features as the game I had last year.

What a story!

*yawn* Call me up when the prequel hits.

elpierce

nice, day1 buy!

xiked

@M-26-7:

Agreed. Give me a good story and I can forgive all multiplayer shenanigans.

Other than co-op through a single-player story, I really don't care too much for multiplayer.

sascha23

@robinandtami: I recall an interview where a dev said there had only ever been one ending for BioShock, but an order came from on-high to give the game more than one, basically as a bullet point on a sheet they had of "what makes games awesome".

I really wanna' know what the original, real ending was. Not like, what happens (no spoilerz!), but if it's the harvest/don't harvest ending.

Chances

@parad0x360: What don't you understand? I thought I was pretty straightforward -- I was against Achievements/Trophies (categorizing them as one entity) because I felt they were arbitrary and in some way commodified the gaming experience.

But, as I said in my earlier post, that viewpoint was merely an "irrational hatred" and I've since come around. I guess reading up on the PS3 Trophies put things into a different perspective for me. Just a personal epiphany.

It has nothing to do with 360 vs. PS3, if that's what you're alluding to.

jerimas

I must not get into the trophy frenzy...must...not...*drools*

Chuco

I... really still have no reason to care about trophies. But that's just me. Hm. Well, either way, I'll be picking this up since I don't have an X360 and have been waiting to play this for too long. Too long.

2NinjasTapedTogether

So 7 Diggs for a story about a year old game getting nearly identical achievements as the 360? Hmmmmm.

The trophies are literally for the same things - the completing on hard without vita-chambers was added in the update.

I'm betting the mysterious silver trophy is for one of my favourite achievements ever - "Irony". I won't ruin it for those who don't know...

Meldy

Sounds like the trophies are identical to the 360 achievements. Should still be enjoyable though. At this point I don't know if its worth pickin up the PS3 version also, unless their are compeltely new levels, and not just new challenge arenas or whatever.

PrivateJ0ker

Lol, it's just the 360 achievements shoe-horned into the PS3's trophies! :-o

lol also at the PS3 drones digging this!

MetalGearMax

@TRT-X: No you got it all wrong. The Platinum trophy is basically earned when you hit "full score". Like, in achievements, if you scored 1000P, you'd unlock the Platinum trophy that means "Got It All". It's a pretty neat system and needles to say, if it was implemented as a standard (trophies as whole), it'd 1up XBL Achievements. Largely due to the RPG-like levels. Very cool. At least I think that.

Candlejack

@Konchu: Well that or load your last save game.

Konchu

@djricekcn: The Vita chamber is your spawn point if you die. No Vita Chamber means you better not die or its game over.

Konchu

This is a must. I'm not thanking them for this. Now that we have goddamn trophies on PS3/PSN I want them to be in every game.

Candlejack

There's also a single Platinum Trophy that can be earned only by gathering up all of the other trophies in the game

Wow...that's just lazy. Though I suppose it's no better than some of the Guitar Hero 'chieves.

1 for each difficulty, then one for beating all difficulties?

TRT-X

I too really wanted to play this when it came out. My PC was also good enough to play it, but I just didn't have the time for it back then as I was studying for my final A-Levels.

Now that I'm a bum with a go nowhere job, I finally have the time to play it! I'm glad it's coming out for PS3 and I look forward to collecting those trophies!

shade-black

I heard an upcoming Xbox 360 game will be getting Achievements. Amazing, how did they do that!!

XbhaskarX

Sounds like the trophies are the same as the xbox achievements. I'm sure there will be a few different ones, hopefully

Biomonkey

@Playstation: It wasn't a complaint as such - just it felt like Miss Wales was making it sound like this was a brand new thing, that lots of thought had gone into, when it is literally a repackaging of the old achievements.

I'm not trying to dump on anyone here!

But I'd much rather see what these Home physical representations of the trophies look like. That would deserve a Digg!

Meldy

@shade-black: or you could just get the PC version.....

Will more than likely cost less too.

randomletters

SONOFA...!

i just got brass balls last week. anger.

TheIrishNinja

@Meldy: LOL dood, you're funny.. i mean if they re-release it again for 360.. your complaint fits very well :)

Playstation

@djricekcn: PsychE was just messin' with you. A Vita-Chamber is like a Checkpoint, except when you die and respawn there the world is NOT reset. In other words, you die and you come back at the nearest one with no penalty and you don't have to re-do anything. Or there may have been a slight penalty, don't remember.

Spiffyness

So 360 achievements = PS3 trophies. Who didn't see that coming. It's gonna be the same for all multiplatform games in the future. Easier for publisher

NightMystic

@DigiMish: Nah, it's really not that tough. I didn't really like the Vita-chamber idea, so for most of my first playthrough (which was on hard mode) I didn't use them (I'd just save a lot). Toward the end I did because I was eager to finish the game, but I definitely could've made it all the way.

Spiffyness

@Meldy: Sure, why not? It's news for people who never played the 360 version.

ƒox

Well, I never had the chance to pick this game up for the PC so I'm happy to see that it'll have trophies which is just another incentive to have me play the game. My question though is, how much?

ƒox

Sweet !

AuthenticM

So basically the same objectives as the 360 achievements, I'm sorry but unless there is some real extra content in the PS3 version you may as well just get the PC or 360 version for half the price and without the wait.

Sniper_Zegai

I loved this game on the 360 and honestly this is one of the few games I would gladly play through again on another platform. I also look forward to the exclusive DLC the PS3 version will be getting.

Seiven

I've already got those in achievement form, along with all the others. Sorry 2K, I'm going to need more than that to warrant buying another copy.

TheLastGunslinger

ooh,ooooh bronze,silver and gold now I'll feel like I've really achieved something...like nothing loser who needs a trophy.

The1andonlyreal1

OH my word i can't wait for this. Loved it on 360, now its on a system that actually matters and doesn't have an iTunes set up. Thank goodness someone is still paying attention to gamers *Sony*.

TheGunnz

Heh, vita-chambers off eh? I bought this game last night (Steam is a blessing). I had to turn vita-chambers off. The game becomes a long slogging mess if you don't, because death means nothing as with them on.

With them off, the Big Daddy's actually become a threat, and you fear their lumbering walk through the halls of Rapture. You also actually take the time to really learn to use plasmids instead of blast or club you way through the game.

So far, good experience.

FrigidAir44

Yeah - both of those are already achievements on the 360. I love how Wales makes it sound like they came up with the original idea of them.

4dSwissCheese

@TheGunnz: That didn't come off fanboish at all.. don't worry.

robinandtami

@4dSwissCheese: yup was just thinking that.

I don't think I like the idea of the platinum trophy being unlocked only if you unlock all others. I mean, I'm a bit of an achievement whore, but not enough to go through and get EVERY SINGLE ONE. Once it ceases to be fun, I move on. I guess I wouldn't be cut out for any platinum trophies.

Crawl to China

I have 5 complete play throughs under my belt...
i suspect i will add a few more with the PS3 version for laughs :)

ranchhand

@DigiMish: Hard on the 360 was pretty much a joke with the vita-chambers and all. I didn't even bother to play it on normal.

cowondinosaur

@TheGunnz: wait, howd you get itunes running on your 360?

TheIrishNinja

@M-26-7: Not me either

Neo-Senku: The World's Finest Pervert

@EvilMetsFan:
I agree that's why they did it, but they shouldn't act like those are brand new.

DotDotDot

I'm definitely getting this game again, especially after I saw PSU's eyes-on impression of the game. Apparently, all the anti-aliasing issues with the 360 version have been ironed out due to the extra year in development, along with several other changes that make this game worth getting once more. I beat this game like 6 times on the 360, and have been waiting for an excuse to play it a few more times. The trophies and new carnival area look like just the type of excuse I've been waiting for.

Bioshock rules.

NoMoreTrolls

Sounds great. BTW, anyone can give a hint about where I ( and anyboy who likes this idea) can post about the fact that with the blu ray capacity, developers can make some kind of "making of bioshock", where we can see early drafts of the art of bioshock.

I dont remember right now where i saw this, but i saw a pdf document where came draft of game art. Even there was a early draft of bif daddy that looked tooooo creepy.

So with the blu ray, they can add some of this stuff and show us even more what i saw in that pdf. Even more, i hope they add some side version of the big daddy with one of that early drafts

PowerButton

The way trophies work is when you unlock all other trophies, you get the platinum trophy. This is true for all titles.

akruble

@Kaizuden: At least Sony stole the good part of the 360... Microsoft stole the "What 360 fans give a shit" part of the Wii... And for how long 360 fans have sung the praises of dashboard and the blades, how it's leaps and bounds better than XMB and how XMB is confusing and ugly, and what do they do? Yeah...

Everyone with half a brain knows Trophies = achievements +1... And everyone who loved achievements on the 360 but didn't own one is very happy they took that concept. Like Me, for instance. I just wish more games had it, and they implemented it from Day 1.

bobtheduck

PC has the best version. Plain and simple. achievements? Trophys? shouldn't beating the game be good enough?

Xtreme_Hindu_Cow

I played it until Sander Cohen told me to take pictures of his dead disciples.
After that, I got bored and wandered off.

silkwood-scrubdown

So...they're just taking the achivements from the 360 and making them into PS3 trophies? The way they were presenting them made it sound like they put a lot of thought into making the trophies instead of just copying achievements.

DrowningInMercy

Ten bucks says the list of trophies is identicial to the list of 360 achievements.

gblock

@gblock: I'll take that bet. There will be at least a couple differences.

bangbangblah

why do people care so much for achievements? it just baffles me. if there is nothing unlocked, why give a damn? my xbox profile has like 500 points. maybe it's a console gamer thing. if the japanese devs did this, they would tons of sweet ass unlockables in games.

the only games i care about achievements are cod4 and tf2.

cihx

I wonder if MS is going to somehow update their achievement system with the dashboard update

G_the_fresh

Can someone without spoilers tell me what Vita-chambers do?

Enedok

Trophies will ruin my PS3 gaming experience just like achievements did my XBOX gaming. My anal-retentive nature compels me to spend hours going out of my way to get 'achievements' that in no way enhance my life and seldom enhance my gaming experience...
I despair!

brickrock121

Great so now instead of choices........trophies make me!!! MUHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHAUHAUAHUAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shadowpal2

anyone playing this game should get "brass balls" by default just for having to wait so long to play it...

spartangod94