Also, while the finl smashes were cool at first...I could do without the smash ball next time around. Just me though.

JokesJokes

That makes me sad. I knew the list was a bit underwhelming (set against what I was expecting anyway). Time constraints were probably also to blame for the continued existence of clones in the series including the rediculous 3 starfox characters. I'm guessing there was a belmont in there somewhere (the whip mechanic is too perfect) and possibly mega man and/or the bionic commando dude as well. I was hoping for an america exclusive travis touchdown to explin the month long delay between the japanese and US release...oh well. Ithink really they just wanted to have another smash bros to make for the next gen nintendo system and they wanted to be able to top Brawl. Hopefully smash bros 4 gets a better level editor some better levels (th new ones were interesting, but it felt like they were trying too hard tomake themunique. I still like the firstsmash bros best, level selection and all). Maybe Ridley will be in the next one too. I hope they trim down and rework the adventure mode next time too.

JokesJokes

What I want to know is why they removed Mewtwo. They said they wanted to cut back on clones but then they added Solid Snake...

Not-Witzbold

"Hey, who do you wanna play as?"

"I dunno...give me about a hour and a maginifying glass."

Mal-Content

do want

bobdisgea

@AntiZERØ: Ocelot: you're pretty good.. *does ocelot hand gesture*

izzy_k

Snake! Do you read me? Snake! SNAKE!!

Time Paradox! :P

AntiZERØ

pac-man's final smash would be awesome ..
everyone turns blue and if they get touched by pacman they instantly fly off the screen. maybe they could make everyone run around in the classic pacman map ? waka waka waka ..

izzy_k

That reminds me of the character select screen for Marvel vs Capcom 2.

GoGoGodzilla

@Spartan1308™: Better yet, photo copied his face, and put a 2D mask on one of the characters.

Just like in Be Kind Rewind!

AntiZERØ

Of course everyone wants Mega Man. How about Star Man from Pro Wrestling, Piston Honda from Punch Out, Hudson from Adventure Island, Thomas from Kung-Fu, Arthur from Ghosts N' Goblins, Simon Belmont, Mother Brain, Baby Mario, the Battletoads, Ryu Hayabusa, Q-bert, Rygar, the Boy and his Blob, the L-shaped Tetris block...I could go on forever.

Arklop

Tediz!!!

dowingba

oh wow. a 6 man brawl. talk about hectic

bigman88zz

no no sorry, Kung Fu man !!!! yeah thats the one

mpar

@Mr.Sad: yes Spartan1308™ was kind enough to find us a bigger version. now thank him damn it

Silenced

"I choose you Miyamoto!!"

VakeroRokero

@alphonse610: We'll be getting our own FF Brawl for the PSP. :D Dissidia

AngelMayLaugh

LOL at Tommy Vercetti and Carl Johnson!

slomo788

I think even Barack Obama is there.

VakeroRokero

LOL

I see Ken and Ryu (Street Fighter), Dante (Devil May Cry), Inuyasha, Prince of Persia, Liu Kang, 10+ pikachus, 10+ Links... *-*

xiLenT

I think I see Poo from Earthbound. I could be wrong though.

kingdong6

you mean you all can actually see who is who on that thing ? is there like a bigger version of it that i am missing ?

anyway, even if they had all those characters or what not, i still wouldnt be that interested in SSBB. i just cant get into the fighting game genre.

Mr.Sad

Master chief

mpar

I'm not even a Smash Bros. fan and that pic has me drooling.

archibaldleech

Which ones made the cut? The ones that are in the game, I think.

dowingba

He's probably referring to the seven unused character files that were found in the game's code - IIRC, Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Roy as veterans, and Plusle & Minun, Dixie Kong, Toon Zelda, and "Toon Sheik" (speculated to be Tetra).

Probably not Geno or any other third-parties, at least.

WildKnightblazer

lol at the tetris block

Silenced

crap i haven't played my mugen for a while. evil ryu must be lonely

shichi

Would've been awesome!

I see Cloud, Sephiroth and Tidus from the FF series...

alphonse610

I had to search for that picture. Found it. That's my new desktop background.

[hugeselection.ytmnd.com]

Spartan1308™

@AngelMayLaugh:

I love the Battle Network series (or loved it before the fifth one), but the original is where it's at.

Mact

Plusle and Minun

Metal_Slug_Solid

Damn it though. Why even mention this? What does it help?

It's very likely that the reason he "can't discuss which ones didn't make it" is because telling certain people that their favorite character was consider, started, and cut is enough to have Sakurai tied up in the back of a U-Haul set to careen off of a bridge over shark-infested waters.

Especially when you keep in mind that there hasn't been a great Starfox venture in decades and the series had three fighters included. I'd pay to have one bumped off in favor of the obvious Blue Bomber (who Sakurai apparently never even asked to include).

Mact

No I'll never be satisfied with my currently measly 33+ SSBB roster. Damn you Kotaku!!!

NeoAkira

Well, something to look forward to in Super Smash Brothers: Fracas.

MykalBloom

Someone had far too much time on their hands when making that roster. Need a magnifying glass simply to read it, nevermind find whatever character you actually want to use.

Xenigma

@AngelMayLaugh:

You sir, have a point.

kumuasata

@Saint Anima:

I know what you mean. I absolutely hate when my games have as much content as possible. It's not like the Smash Bros series allows for multiple methods of unlocking each character, one of them being playing a certain number of multiplayer matches.

Mact

all i need is ness, thank you

jaws3people0

Sucks that Roy and Dmar were cut. I think the most important thing is balance (which they did alright with sort of), but they shouldn't have cut those awesome characters.

gamadaya

@kumuasata: Megaman is okay, but the Megaman.Exe version would kill.

AngelMayLaugh

Super Smash Bros. MUGEN? Hm, perhaps adding Kenshiro from Hokuto No Ken was in Sakurai's original plans.

KeroseneClimax

I want to see Master Hand joined by the Power Glove and Glover for the next sequel: "Super Smash Bros.: I feel Like Makin' Glove"

ShaggE

@arazzor: Well, I was hoping for Mega Man also. I wouldn't even care if they only added him, it would make my day. Well, Bomberman would've been cool too.

So much missed opportunity when it comes to 3rd party. Maybe next time, if there is one.

Saint Anima

Miyamoto in the top left corner. That would have been pretty funny if they stuck a picture of his head Mortal Kombat style on a character in the game and made it playable.

Spartan1308™

That's way too many.

Amazon_Chris

Some crazy Axel Steel or God of Rock.
That'd be funny.

ItsSuperEffective

I swear if I see megaman in there, I WILL KILL SOMEONE.

That is all.

kumuasata

I'm thinking the cut characters were probably something like: King K. Rool, Ridley, Krystal, Louie, Chibi-robo, etc. I was shocked that neither Bomberman nor Mega Man were in though.

Green-clad Gamer Dude

@Saint Anima: I agree with ya there, but it still would have been nice to see some more characters.
I would like to see Mega Man on there, maybe even Ryu Hayubusa. Hey, if Solid Snake could be on there, why not? Only problem is, with as hardened as Ryu is from his tough-as-nails games, the second "GO!" came up on the screen, the round would be over.

arazzor

@Tatsujinken: thats what i was thinking.

Kikouken

perhaps they had half of the entire pokemon roster and realized that it was too damn much.

ArchMemnoch

Damnit Sakurai.

Just damnit.

Tatsujinken

Unrelated but is Brawl even out in Europe yet? I lost interest with all the waiting. :x

Walker

I see final fantasy and inuyasha on the bottom left, but no trace of naruto.

AngelMayLaugh

@PATSCRU: Different story for a different day

Luke Plunkett

I have dibs on the Tetris block!

Darkest Daze

Sakurai, did Brawl once have "A Lot More Online Functionality?"

PATSCRU

I know this may be weird to some, but I'm so happy the roster didn't end up like that. Especially if you had to unlock MOST of them.

"Hey man, up for some Brawl?"

"Sorry, in the process of unlocking another 40 fighters. Next time, pal!"

Saint Anima

LOLOLOLOL Digimons

AngelMayLaugh

Where is mudkip?!?!

lol at the first two characters in the top left corner of the pic.

ninjadude14

Where the fuck is Waldo?

Mr.SithNinja

I was wanting some Mega Man and capcom characters, personally. Oh yeah, and functional online play...."it's nice to want things".

Sammo21

holy shit at that fan made roster.

shinko

i see noob saibot, and king hippo.

TheIrishNinja

As long as skull kid and oni link are in it, I'm satisfied.

blueshoals

I would have been fine with that Sakurai!
JUST FINE!
I guess that if there are more characters in the wings, it wont take us 6 more years to get a sequel.

TheCleaningGuy

It would be cool if there was more characters.. i think they could add some more.

bubble-bee

I think I see Akuma in there, also see sandbag-dude. That would give him a chance of getting his own back at least.

furiku

The next version must include the dog from Duck Hunt and perhaps the titular characters from A Boy and his Blob.

Cagey_B

I was happy with the roster of first-party characters, a couple fighters I wanted appeared as Assist Trophies, but all in all I was good with it.

Third-party characters, however... I was fully expecting Mega man, or one of his many other forms to appear, but I was most disappointed by the lack of one of my favorite characters of all time...

Viewtiful Joe. :Crying:

Marios_shadow

@Amazon_Chris:
You can never have too many! NEVAAARRRR!!!

Blah8

@bubble-bee: I wish... and so does a lot of other people too...

:(

BTW the rumor of a new Wii Channel "New Challenger" is actually true...

Maestar

I'd bet 50 bucks Sephiroth and Cloud were in

AlejandroLestad

Maybe they're planning to add to the Online market...to sell some more characters.

bubble-bee

the Wii would have to output in HD to even be able to see which character your picking. LOL, cool list maybe Nintendo should hire this person. I wish there were more characters in SSBB the more to choose from the better.

Assassin_Kensei

@KeroseneClimax: MUGEN, thank God I am not alone knowing what MUGEN is. I knew there was Plusle and Minun from the Pokemon games, Mewtwo, Dixie Kong, and a few others discovered on the Brawl disc. I enjoyed Brawl for a time beating up the sell out Sonic. That got old along with the rest of the game.

Fireblast

Oh god, I wish... I see Mallow.

WHERE THE HELL IS SNORLAX?!

Murgatron

I remember Sakurai saying something like "it's very hard to come up with characters for a game as big as Brawl" or something like that.

I can think of about 20 right now. One character I really would have liked (to replace Young/Toon Link) is Majoras Mask Link. Similar to PTrainer, he can equip Goron, Deku and Zora masks to recieve different powers and 'stats'

Ryumeka

Found the high res version of that roster:
[content.ytmnd.com]

Elliuotatar

Actually when you dive into the data on the Brawl disc you can actually find placeholders for many characters removed from the final build.

The character placeholders were named as Roy, Mewtwo, Dixie Kong, Plusle & Minun, Toon Zelda and Dr. Mario.

Chalice

Nintendo should've put Mega Man and Simon Belmont in SMBB. Also Ocelot, and an old SNES Final Fantasy character like Locke or Mog or both!

krushjudgement

com'on... no love for THE tetris L block?
i'm not sastisfied!

abhakam

One awesome wallpaper right there!

Shiryu

People need to remember that Smash Bros is not meant to be your wetdream. It's much more about Nintendo representing their legacy and celebrating their long creative history.

Sakurai would not have thought "Oh man, people really want Sonic. I'm TOTALLY adding him."

Characters are selected based on what is thought to be best for the game, not to fulfill millions of varied videogame crossover fantasies.

marmidukestank

Balloon Fighter, Leon Kennedy, Felix (Golden Sun) Megaman, Simon Belmont, and pretty much every other character on the face of the planet. Pwease? I was hoping for a Kratos vs. Ratatta battle.

Samusman1

I remember a sound file floating around of the announcer practicing his lines, and in those lines were several characters that didn't make the cut, including the four that were cut from Melee, plus Little Mac, Mii, Geno, Mega Man, and perhaps one or two others. >_>

CyricZ

Fulgore!

Five Element Ninja

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARINA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I the only one who remembered "Mischief Makers"? I freakin' loved that game when it came out. Come on Nintendo, give me a VC of that game! She would been freakin' awesome in Brawl! Since most of her attacks involved grabs, she had the poteniatal to "SHAKE SHAKE!" The enemey to death. And her final smash? The Teran in his Uber form!

trogam

Wow, why not release a new brawl called tournament edition with those characters without the fancy extra's, I'm sure all those characters will fit.

Mr.DuckSauce

Iwanted to see Little Mac from Punchout. Yeah, he was an assist trophy, but he should have been playable. He at least got TWO games, unlike the Ice Climbers.

PsychicPanda

MUGEN Smash?! Woot. Thankfully Sakurai trimmed it, because it would have been unmanageable.

Angryrider

/me still thinks it should be harebrained rather than hairbrained. Oh, well. [www.worldwidewords.org]

unwesen

I'm guessing all the extra Metal Gear and Sonic characters

Ultrasinc

@TRT-X: PS (just so you don't think I'm crazy)

[nsider2.com]

TRT-X

There was a story a while back that somebody hacked the Brawl disc and went poking around. They found partial programming for the following characters:

Dr. Mario, Roy, and Mewtwo from Melee.
Dixie Kong (DKC2/3)
Toon Zelda/Sheik
Plusle & Minun (2 Pokemon that fight as a team)

Nothing that really strikes me as "OMG!", but interesting info nonetheless.

TRT-X

i had been hoping for midna or, at the very least, wolf link w/ midna. total lost potential there.

mega man can come round next time..i think snake and sonic was a big enough break outside the box.

kristaia

I really wish Isaac from Golden Sun made it as a playable character instead of just an assist trophy. He would have had an awesome moveset, and Judgment would be a perfect final smash.

+ Watch video

Why, Sakurai? Why?!

Arteen

If sephiroth and cloud were in it, i would totally buy a wii....
.... for the moment i'm content playing snake on my friends machine...

scuba2steve

Tom Nook from Animal Crossing. He was always begging to be in SSB.

Quicksilver4648

Immediately when the game's roster didn't match that Gamevideos presentation, I was let down. Or maybe it was just losing Mewtwo. In any case, I felt immediately like they were prepping to milk us good for a sequel and I resent that if it's true.

Swift_

I wish the game had that many characters

boots555

@scuba2steve: *urk* No thanks there. That whole Cloud/Sephiroth boner feud thing got old a while ago. I'm shocked we haven't seen Cloudodon and Sephisaurus in Spore's Creature Creator yet...

TRT-X

Question block
as a character

Zarian

A actual functioning online component of Brawl would've been nice.

Kempatsu

Considering that Geno's theme song was one of the cut songs he was probably one of the cut characters.

;_______________________________;

hotgarbage

@KeroseneClimax:

Overkill :P Plus, we can't have people 'sploding in a Nintendo game.

I for one like the fan-made roster with Robocop in it :D

man in gauze is king ramses II, silly.

The whole point of SSB is the characters that we see. To me we didn't get a huge improvment over Melee. IMO Melee had a lot more to offer that was new.

Sailorcancer

why couldn't nintendo offer downloadable content so we could actually play as those cut characters? i think that would be a nice thing to do...a character or two per week and if you didn't want to download them you didn't have to...just a theory though, and also hope for banjo-kazooie to appear as a contender, ::sigh::

twilightfox008

@AngelMayLaugh: screw naruto

ejpal

Brawl was a very very disapointing game. Not worth the wait or hype.

Solid_hedgehog

i wish that was the real roster 8( lol

evilralphwiggum

So that would explain the extra character data stored on the disc. It's still not what I'd consider "a lot more," since half of the data is just more returning characters.

Bauske

Yeah, I love Smash Bros. I even waited in line at the midnight opening of Brawl. I would be really annoyed though, if there where this many characters. Too much is never good.

Personally though, and I understand why not, but I would've liked Krystal, Andy from AW, Ephraim from FE, or Hector from FE, Paper Mario, Bomberman, Megaman, Lloyd, and a little Viewtiful Joe.

The problem with Smash is, if you put one character, most of the time you need one or two of their buddies also. I'm really not sure I want another Smash, since Brawl got old really fast.

ChiltonGaines

Viewtiful Joe!

FLYBOY611

Chibi Robo would have been awesome.

Final Smash: Stick the plug into someone's face and electrocute them.

Benjo

I still weep that Tom Nook didn't make it in the game. What's the point of having a Animal Crossing level with NO Animal Crossing character?! That made me very sad indeed. No Tom Nook torture fests for me. =(

SanjiX

@marmidukestank:

Three Landmasters isn't very creative. DEBUNKED!

Mact

Does Nintendo not know what DLC is?

skeevy110

I'm amazed that the first character I spotted was Liu Kang. -_-

Zwei Voltage

I'd love to make an example of Doraemon.

Fire4444

As much as I would've liked to see a few more characters on the SSBB roster (such as Mega Man, Zero, and a few Square characters), I think they found a good number of characters to have.... especially as Nintendo would've probably just been lazy and thrown in even more Pokemon.

NoFunShogun

Well, I only use Mr Game & Watch and Pikachu so I can't really complain about the lack of characters in SSBB.......

LeLoi

I see Machamp & that's the only person I'd play with :]

DarthWind

Screw more characters. I really wanted not-crappy and not-glitchy online play. It just goes to show you can't always get what you want.

FoxyGaz

This is why I hope to god that Sakurai never works on another Smash bros game again. Instead of focusing on the fighting game (the actual reason people buy Smash), he decides to cut down the roster so he can keep focusing on the shitty Subspace Emissary mode.

But maybe I'm just bitter because of how slow and boring Brawl is at a competitive level.....

jbiller

that looks like mugen a full nintendo set up of it with add ons i dont think thats really the smash bros screen

azrealus

@Mact: i thought starfox armada was pretty good. but really there's only been like 6 games in the ENTIRE series, so i wouldn't sweat it.

Starfox
Starfox 64
Starfox Adventures
Starfox Armada
Starfox Command Mission

okay, five games in the ENTIRE series

thejakeman: visit my site!

I really hope they include Mega Man in the next SSB... I miss him so much.

Rene_18

I wanted Megaman so badly... I mean, how can they even think that we want OLIMAR instead...?

Ikiat

Anyone else even playing smash anymore?

that's what I thought :( Characters were too easy to unlock, but that's expected.. kids games. And I guess it felt too Melee. life has changed. If I were in highschool this game would be the greatest

MetaKz

Sonic was my first big wish and Mega Man was my second. A Square character was my distant third. I had no particular pick for Square. I want Mega Man still, so it's time Nintendo embraced DLC. As for what characters got cut from the roster, I'm going to go with some of the Assist Trophies. They are most likely because they all have animated character models and some of them definitely had good options for full move sets. Of course, it could also be those "unfinished" characters claimed to be on the disc.

Yes, me big fan, but logically, if Nintendo embraced downloadable content and put out a character expansion for Brawl, since we'd pay for it, they would make another couple million off of all the Brawl fans.

Ryodestined

Looks like a preview screenshot for a Mugen template.

mugido

Story of the life of a game. I doubt that any game has ever finished development with everything the creator(s) had in mind when it was first set into motion.

SAMAS

Where is Shaq?! We know he can lay down some serious Shaq-Fu!

Alaron

lol what if they really did have that many character in it? my god my mind is exploding from the thought of all the trophies you could get @_@

hrabbit

I would have so kicked ass with the Tetris Piece

King Seafoam

Where is this image from? Is there a higher quality one? I don't see an image credit anywhere.

Corion

I guess we'll just have to wait for the next installment in the series to see some more fan boy dreams come true.

VMars

im pretty sure we dont need 3 kirby/star fox characters when we dont even have 1 from golden sun. screw sakurai. jsut cuz he created kirby he wants to stick those crappy puffballs in smash(although king ddd and metaknight are pretty high tiered in brawl).

maraxusofk

@maraxusofk:

Considering the fact that he could have stuck both of them in two installments ago but didn't due to the fact that he didn't want to showboat his own series, I believe your mouth needs to remain shut.

As this was truly the last he planned to take a role in, he stuck them in due to massive fan demand.

Mact

@thejakeman: visit my site!:

Wouldn't sweat what?

Megaman has had over twice that many titles exclusively released on Nintendo consoles.

All you just did is manage to further backup the fact that there are too many Starfox characters in Brawl.

Mact

Wow, they have Ermac!

Vanguarde

Awesome!

jjgiant

I think I see Shigeru Miyamoto in the top left hand corner....

Oh, and pardon my spelling if I messed up his name.

Pancake_Ninja

Wasn't Mewtwo's victory music found, or something like that?

Alucard