@MentalNote: I say this with no sarcasm/cynicism: might as well get starcraft.

Unless you're really a big fan of Halo and have to play as one of their character.

This game will probably sell well, but won't be as big as Halo. RTS have a steep learning curve.

Baka_Survivor

I'm not a big RTS fan or even a Halo fan(I've played all three)but I'm interested in this.

enewtabie

The RTS scene has been a tad dry for me, I'm looking forward to playing Halo Wars, if only it would work with a USB mouse and keyboard.

Sniper_Zegai

Halo Wars interests me as a Halo:CE fanboy, in ways that Halo Halo 2 and 3 did not.

RaptureScientist

If it gets a good reception, I'll probably purchase this game for PC when it gets released on that platform.

MentalNote

it is good that Bungie have high praise for this, hopefully the game is well received by Halo fans that arent RTS fans.

shaunomacx

If M$ was smart they'd make a nifty little pointing device for the 360 ... *cough* ... wiimote

hollowfreak

@Turel777: yeah, the precision needed for RTS games, you just cant seem to get the same amount with a joystick than with a mouse. who knows what bungie will do to compensate for this.

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Geomanis

@Geomanis: Hmm, an interesting thought. I've always firmly believed that RTS games belong on the PC, but it'd be great to see an RTS that works well on console. If it does work well on that platform then hopefully others will then follow in its footsteps.

That said I think FPS on the console is alot easier to do than RTS. The joypad lends itself quite well to any game controlling a single character imo... but I've never liked selecting RTS-units and such with a joypad. I'm not even sure why, it just feels wrong.

Turel777

Looks good, from that perspective its getting everything right. Controls is what makes or breaks this. They don't have to be perfect, they just have to work....easier said than done with a console RTS game.

Mitch Cumstein

"I say this with no sarcasm/cynicism: might as well get starcraft."

Unless of course, you don't actually like Starcraft :P. Personally I've always preffered Ensemble's work to Blizzard's so I'm looking forward to what they're doing here :3

coffeehair

its an interesting concept, but, the RTS/FPS are only good on PC is killing my impressions of this. Halo made me rethink about console FPS, maybe this will redefine console RTS?

Geomanis

It's going to have to be pretty good. Endwar is very promising with it's speech-control system, I can see that being the number one RTS game on consoles instead.

IronsUK

RTS on consoles is so unnatural. I'll wait for the PC version.

mustang

i wounder if you can tea bag the enemy, would be nice to see in an RTS

invictus2006

Also, no, this is not coming to PC. I can't see them taking the effort to completely revamp the control system for PC when they know it won't sell well when the competition is so much better anyway.

CoreWolf

@IronsUK: I was in the EndWar Beta (psssttt NDA) and I can guarantee they wont even comes close to #1 RTS game if they don't fix their font problem. On a SD 90%+ of the text on screen was illegible. Their developers like to use size 2 fonts. But the voice control system was real easy. It first feels weird but then you get used to it and you eventually learn all of the commands so you are no longer required to read like a robot. "Calling... all units... attack... hostile... 7."

Quicksilver4648

This is about as interesting as the everquest RTS game that came out.

sadly that is. let halo live in glory and stop remaking it =/

Zaos

It's cool that they're trying something new here and have built a control system from the ground up but i'm still not convinced it'll work. I mean sure it'll probably be useable but i don't expect this to be anything more than average when compared to the likes of Supreme Commander, Dawn of War II, Starcraft II, Company of Heroes etc.

I don't get why they don't just give in and let people use a keyboard and mouse. That's the main reason that i still cling to PC gaming, and i'm sure the consoles could attract a bunch of PC gamers if they opened up the control options. No doubt console fanboys would whine like hell but they wouldn't stop gaming and if all games had control filters like UT3 on PS3 there'd be no reason to complain.

CoreWolf

@IronsUK:

Endwar was slow and unresponsive in the beta, it also wasn't fun.

@mustang:

Not happening I believe.

DragonNinja

@Burguois of Arabia: Point taken. It's hard not to be skeptical of a console RTS though. People always accuse console games of being 'dumbed down' and in this case they've admitted to doing just that, and given the fact that they want to reach as wide an audience as possible with this title... i'm going to keep my pessimist hat on for this one. Yes, they could prove me wrong and release an RTS that'll rival Starcraft (and chess?) but i highly doubt it. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

CoreWolf

Enemble

AOE3?

*SIGH*

muscrat_01

@CoreWolf: Simple is not antithetical to strategic. Take Chess, for example. It only has six different unit types so the amount of depth must be incredibly lacking, right?

Burguois of Arabia

@notoriousEIC: Ok, i don't, but i've followed the interviews and info they've released so far and they've mentioned having to remove a bunch of stuff and simplify things to fit the interface, so i'm not expecting this to have as much depth as other strategy titles.

CoreWolf

@CoreWolf:
Just out of curiousity, how do you know the competition is so much better when this game isn't even out yet? Given that it's being developed by Ensemble, a respected maker of PC RTS games, it should turn out fairly well. Regardless, I suspect a PC version will eventually be available.

notoriousEIC

@mustang:\

I remember the same was said about FPS games, hell I was one of the main people who said it and now look at how great they play on consoles. It just takes the right developer to get a good standardized control scheme I believe. With that said Im still getting the PC version :3

ichiban1081

I agree that this won't be as deep as a PC RTS, but "dumbed down" doesn't necessarily mean "bad." I think it looks pretty slick, based on the hands-on videos I saw around E3.

If nothing else, a Halo-branded one might get some new players into the genre who then might goon their PC and get into one of the "true" RTS's. If you are a fan of the genre, expanding the potential market can only be a good thing.

lionkitten

@UUDDLLRRAABB: So you've played it, have you?

belo

Another Starcraft copy...
Well I guess we can't help it, since Halo trilogy was Starcraft FPS

UUDDLLRRAABB

I think this will do just fine as an console RTS. LOTR and C&C3 were good, the controls were a lil slow to repsond at times but i still fully enjoyed them. UaW i only played the demo and although it looked quite good it jsut didnt grab me like the other 2.

This will hoepfully be better than the others, not because its halo > LOTR/C&C because it isnt, but because I think the halo universe would make a damn fine RTS

danieldrago

Yea, hopefully kids who play this will use it as a stepping stone.

Then again I think the halo series is retarded and wonder how it ever got so popular while people bash on TF2 for being cartoony. SHINY GREEN MOTOCROSS OUTFITS FOR GODS SAKE!

OiScout

I fail to see how 'dumbed down' doesn't necessarily mean 'bad'.
Could you elaborate?

mustang

So, I wonder how much they were payed to say that.

Darth_Xehanort

@mustang: Civilization Revolution is a "dumbed down" Civ game, and it has gotten a very positive response.

Gannoc

@IronsUK: I doubt it. End War was a bore. Also the voice command is just a novelty, it's just as quick and easy to do it the normal way.

Eon

I can imagine Bungies excitement. Seeing someone else work on their IP and create something totally different from what theyve been doing.

Altima NEO

Bungie is no doubt encouraged that Ensemble is following their M.O. of taking a PC genre and dumbing it down to the point of absurdity for Xbots.

Ensemble flat out admitted to this in their 1Up interview, saying Xbox fans have short attention spans and need everything sexed up.

Gitaroo_Dude

"The game is planted firmly in the RTS genre, so, for example, it's not necessary to have players moved in and out of cover"

Maybe I'm being stupid, but why not? Lots of RTS have cover systems, and most of them are better for it.

cdammers

@Geomanis: *ahem* you mean what Ensemble will do ;p

H0PLITE

@cdammers: Yeah I thought that too.. although i still am looking foward to this. I was skeptic at first but I just want to see what happens when you unleash a group of spartans on something.

RazorandBlade

I don't really see how you could launch attacks and defend your base at the same time - most RTS's give you a mini-map that allows you to jump around places.
Selecting units also usually sucks on console RTS's - you end up sending all the units you selected just because you can't be bothered to start dragging out single units.

By all means, I HOPE this makes a good title, but judging by my past experiences - RTS belong on PCs, not consoles.

tehFluffz

@MentalNote: It hasn't been confirmed as anything other than a 360 title, as of yet.

Rhainor

@tehFluffz:

Judging from all the previews and videos, this seems more like an RTT (see World in Conflict) rather than an RTS.

Providence

@CoreWolf:
I definitely understand being skeptical of a console RTS. Personally, I'm being optimistic because I badly want a good one for the 360. Given Ensemble's pedigree and the way the Halo Universe lends itself to this sort of game, I think there's a pretty good shot it will deliver.

notoriousEIC

However much I love Starcraft, I have a softspot for AOE and Age of Mythology, that was just fun =)

Im excited for both SC2 and Halo Wars, and as another poster mentioned, It excites me in a way that I had while playing Halo:CE.

stune

can we play as flood or sentinels? 4 races would be better than just 2.

adragonfang18