@Pornosaur:
I guess it's too much to ask to expect something new these days. This generation is all about rehashing what's popular instead of pushing boundaries or trying new concepts.

Maybe we'll be lucky and this'll all blow over and end up being that they're just helping Peter Jackson with Halo Chronicles, but I doubt it.

Archaotic

I think that they would probably be contractually obliged to work on Halo games considering that Microsoft actually agreed to let them go. I don't think they'd have let them go without some concessions.

And imagine how annoying it would be if they were told they couldn't announce something and some executive goes and leaks something.

zacwight

RETURN SEGA!!! I
Only you can save me:(
This is really being the worst generation of consoles...
Where is the creativity?
What about creating some new Ips?

MadSystem

It would be completely understandable if Bungie made another Halo title for MS. I mean the games sell like crazy and in the end it is all about making money...

Starsky

@Archaotic: Well in a way "offically" they haven't annouced anything. They were going to and were denied. I have to admit I didn't follow the events leading up to this that closely. Were their indications that this was something else "Halo" related? Besides the Marathon games what else has Bungie devolped? Would be people be happy with another fps? Both Halo and Marathon were sci-fi games, so I guess it would be intersting to know if they were moving in a totally different direction.

Pornosaur

@EaGle1337:
They DID mention they wanted to try new things and not simply live in Halo's shadow though. This seems like the exact opposite of what they meant there.

Archaotic

Bungie never denied another halo game by them when they split from Microsoft. My guess this is it.

EaGle1337

@QuiLink: Please ban this person this already, he's posted this over nine times now.

Master Chief is an iconic gaming character now but, with all these Halo's coming out I think they're going to bury the franchise. Including this and the Peter Jackson one, there will be seven Halo games. Give it a rest already.

kylo4

@papero3: Does MS really have a leash on Bungie? Maybe Bungie wanted to create a another Halo game that may not be called Halo but still exist in the universe, while I'm just guessing, you never know. And Microsoft doesn't force Bungie to make more Halo games as far as we know.

Pattypie

Dang.. to bad MS has a leash on Bungie.
cmon MS!! the Halo formula has been mastered, let these guys work on a new IP.

papero3

@Pornosaur:
I dunno, man. This is definitely something for me to get sad about. I was really, really hoping for something new from Bungie. More Halo is probably the most disappointing announcement they could've possibly made.

Archaotic

I bet its going to be their answer for MAG.

Majpain007

@Archaotic: They are a multi-game studio now though, so hopefully their other projects are other series.

Well, unless they want to only work on Halo, then that's fine since it'd be what they want, but I'd have to assume they have other aspirations as well.

Nirolak

@Archaotic: I wouldn't get too sad obvioulsy they still have some contractual obligations to work out with MS.

Pornosaur

@QuiLink:
Listen up, you little shit. This is a gaming info blog. Not an 'omg, i'm selling my shit' forum. Congrats on getting banned.

AssassinTRIP

I don't know, how fractured is the Bungie/MS relationship at this point where both parties don't even seem to be communicating at a pre-planned big event like E3? I must preface by saying that I find the Halo games to be way over-rated. They seem like a solid dev though and maybe it was just the fact that MS basically trounced the other 2 hardware developers on the first two days of E3 and wants to save announcing anything else Halo related for another time.

Pornosaur

@QuiLink: Seriously, how many times are you going to repost that?

SonicNirvana

@QuiLink: KOTAKU IS NOT YOUR OWN PERSONAL ADD SPACE!

Everyone else: Should be interesting to see what Bungie does with a Halo game as an independent company.

AZRockslide

So, uh, Bungie, what exactly was it you said about breaking free from the Halo name, getting yourselves able to work on other things.

That was all shit, huh?

Sigh. I really respected Bungie, but this? All that stink over breaking free, and they just turn around and run right back to Halo. Depressing.

Archaotic

hmm... Wait I forgot which one was supposed to be the rainbow six: halo. The peter Jackson one or this mystery game?

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QuiLink

Why is it so shocking that they are working on another halo or that another one could be made? Halo 3 made it crystal clear that there was going to be another eventually. Also, I'm betting that this IS the game that was being hinted at and that it will be revealed tommorow as planned.

Sir_Crocidile

Not surprising.
They're still owing MS three games since they left the "family".

Garo

Microsoft already had the best E3 press conference (compared to Sony & Nintendo) and they just decided on not revealing the new Bungie Halo title. FF XIII on 360 was enough to steal the E3 show.
They're just saving the Halo/Bungie heavy artilery for the next time they need to drop the bomb ...

mx5

I've always wanted a prequel halo game that was told from the Covenant point of view. I think that route could have alot of interesting material.

_MARVKO_

I don't even want to comprehend this.

Also, I can't believe Microsoft would let this leak.

Oh wait...

Still, I do love me some Halo!

CarbonFalcon

...seriously?

That's it, I'm done with this generation.

Archaotic

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QuiLink

@kylo4:
It would be right for bungie to make 7 halo games because they love the 7

adamr999

Did anyone notice the time that the message from Bungie was sent? Nobody?

7:00

You kidlets are slipping.

penty85

So do they mean the next halo game as in halo 4 or a different game set in the same universe. If its the second one, that would be cool, but if its halo 4 i would be disapointed. Halo 3 was in my 360 for a about a week before i got bored of it and i havent touched it since. Unless they try something different i doudt i would be picking this one up...of course that wont stop MS and Bungie raking in the cash once again.

bighit006

@QuiLink: Umm...thanks for the info but you should watch out that this doesn't count as spam as it's highly irrelevent to anything discussed here.

NeVeRMoRe666

@Burguois:
Sony working on broken dreams for 256 people at once!

I'm not sure Mattrick's spoiled the party. Do text or verbal only announcements count for anything? Heck, even CGI announcements don't count (read the comments from the Sony liveblog). Remember: pics or it didn't happen. Er, won't happen, I mean.

All these splash screen antics are amusing though. I suspect they're about to deny a Secret Cow Map Pack for Halo 3.

stoneagedan

Variety weblog has the low down, Bungie are working on a Halo game and non-Halo title but a dispute with Microsoft put the kibosh on both games announcements.

[weblogs.variety.com]

Jellocakes

hmmm i just wish they would tell me what they are making...

bobdisgea

In other news, Nintendo working on Mario titles, Sony working on broken dreams

Burguois

I think everyone is looking at this the wrong way, that is, negatively. This could truly reinvigorate the universe, possibly bringing something new to the table that'll be as fun to play as Halo: Combat Evolved. Sorry, but 2 and 3 didn't do it for me. I like me some Halo 1.

My360broked

Bungie bought their freedom. If they're working on a new Halo game, it's because they want to.

MouseCircus

@mentalboy11: They do have a few things, it's just that they either don't show very well or they seem stuck in development hell.

Like the vehicle system in Banjo for example is pretty innovative, but people tend to mostly rip on it.

In the movies, while looking pretty horrible personally, is pretty creative in all honesty, as are the live game shows, but once again, they just don't show very well.

The only other two that really strikes me as having a lot of innovation potential are Alan Wake and Halo Chronicles, but sadly neither of those seem to be in sight.

You can't entirely blame them though, if people tend to clamor for sequels over everything else Microsoft is probably going to listen in the end.

But yeah you're right that overall they could be doing a lot more to get more inventive games from a first party perspective.

Nirolak

ive noticed a microsoft trend lately.

Does microsoft EVER do anything new and innovating?

if they do, please point them out because almost their entire press conference was shouting "YES, we are bring games from other consoles, and either stealing them and renaming them, or taking them by force!"

they took a lot of stuff from nintendo especially, and some casual games from the ps2, which they could have at least made them look different. lips looks just like singstar, and their in the movies looks like it came from one of the first gen eye toy games. come on microsoft, i mean, i enjoyed fallout3, fable 2, gears of war 2, and resident evil 5, but there was nothing new.

notice all the games above are sequels too?

I just wanted to share my opinion.

but i do like the netflix stuff.

mentalboy11

@munkeypants: I dunno why, but reading your post reminded me of this theory I had...

If this is the same No-Chiefy-Protagonist game that we discussed yesterday or whenever, I think it could be a rescue mission of sorts: The Distress Signal sent out by Cortana gets picked up, a ship is sent out to recover the back end of the Dawn, and they find themselves on an alien planet trying to recover their greatest war hero. That could make for a fun (and innovative, if Bungie gets the chance) tactical fps. Thoughts?

My360broked

Now is a good time for them to do another if they're going to.

They've got an engine and all the assets from Halo 3 to work with, so if they're wanting to continue to the story, they could get it done quick and still have excellent graphics by current standards.

munkeypants

@Gunloc: male=make :p

Gunloc

@mentalboy11: Don't forget about XNA and how people can male their own games. Who knows if MS will allow people to make camera games or motion mic games too.

Gunloc

Bungie best get the fuck away from Micro$oft before they are forced to make HALO games to the end of time.

Vanguarde

It's obvious Bungie fans like myself want this announcement whether it is Halo related or not! So c'mon Mr. Publisher! Make us happy!!!

henri1kk

It might just be Halo 3 for PC. With cross platform play...

Gunloc

@mentalboy11: Well, I semi-agree; they aren't taking huge risks, and therefore won't ever achieve or lose very much at all, they'll just hold their ground. At the same time, however, they ARE innovating in minor ways, expanding on what has already become a success. Take Lips, for example; sure, it's out there to compete with Singstar, but, it A) adds some sort of motion control that might be fun, not sure though and B) bringing what seems to be a more American selection of songs. It's not complete originality, but they ARE being smart.

I thought that the movie game thing looked pretty fun, and might be a lot deeper than it originally appeared; just realize it's geared toward stealing some of the Wii's thunder.

My360broked

@mentalboy11: Meh. MS isn't the only company to steal ideas. I'd say the only things truly innovative this gen have been XBL (be able to download trailers, demos, shows, movies, music, and whatnots) and the Wiimote. And personally I don't really care for the Wiimote that much. It seems like the only games on the Wii are shovelware and Nintendo franchises that we've been playing for 20 years now.

@Vanguarde: Obviously they won't be forced to make Halo games till the end of time.. MS doesn't own them anymore. This game might have been part of the split agreement, or maybe Bungie just wanted to make another game in the Halo universe (shocking I know!).

Although personally I was hoping for something new. But I don't really see that plumber guy having anything to do with Halo. So my guess is they're making 2 games at once.

kojirodensetsu

Now we're getting our 'grand announcement' from Bungie pulled? Gah. Damn you E3 and your not-being-so-freakin-awesome-anymore-ness!

Salen

I don't think it will be a straight up Halo 4 to be honest. For Bungie to want to break away from MS for freedom and then just make another Halo with the same engine, a few new weapons, a few new enemies, etc. but the same basic gameplay formula that Halo 1-3 shared would be stupid.

It may very well be "in the Halo universe", but I personally doubt it will be Halo 4. The game will most likely play much differently.

sand0789

bungie making another halo? no..........

in other news, humans need air to live.

jfx316

I'm a halo whore. I'll buy it day one lol, along with about a million other people I'm sure.

Friscodude

I love how some people are complaining about a rehash when there is zero information on anything regarding the title beyond the lore it taps from.

Grow up already.

It could very well be a tactical shooter or an RPG or a sim game for all you, or anyone outside of Bungie or Microsoft knows. Be patient instead of assuming the worst case scenario just to grant yourself the freedom to rant rampantly without any basis in your argument.

Heliophage

Bungie has said quite clearly that they would continue to work on Halo games. It's Halo that's going to be paying for whatever else it is that they want to make concurrently or in the future.

crim

ok.... we have 3 halo games. Nintendo has a gazillion marios, and like 20 zeldas. sony has 4 MGs games. I really don't see the problem.

deathtastic

Damn nothing happened!

Mikey

This is Microsoft's Mario/Zelda and Sony's Solid Snake. Not sure why people are throwing a hissy fit over the fact that they're making another game based on the Xbox's iconic character.

But as for this, I was looking forward to whatever Bungie was working on, Halo related or not. And looking over that Variety article it seems to put everything into focus as Halo Wars seems to have been shoved into the back burner and Chronicles has gone through yet another press conference without a scrap of info.

Whatever happened between the two companies isn't healthy and the only people getting hurt are the fans.

jihadjoe343

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Let's see what happens!

Mikey

Big deal...

I think this news only excites "Halo Fanboys" which I am sure they are all having massive orgasms thinking about another Halo game in development.

Hulkamaniac

This is good news because:

1) As someone else stated, Bungie is entirely more than capable at producing more than one game at a time now

2) The "Master Chief" story is wrapped up for now, meaning not only will the new game have a new story, but this also gives Bungie the opportunity to try a different genre of game, such as the rumored squad-based marine game

I am looking forward to whatever it is though, Bungie makes quality games, with or without the Halo title

Kapazza

I am not a "halo fanboy," I enjoy all types of games and I really like a good FPS. This news does excite me because I have always enjoyed the Halo universe more-so than Unreal, HL, or others.

theonlydoublej

@Ken: I'd still like to see an online-only Super Halo. Just give me Forge/Saved Films and Matchmaking with like 40 maps and soem graphical upgrades and small tweaks and leave the story be. Maybe some really big 20v20 Really Big Team Battle with some improved netcode.

lionkitten

I love Halo, but I felt completion with 3. Like that was it, the end. I was quite happy.

Spin-offs make me sad :(

Ken

@Archaotic: Halo is paying the bills so that Bungie can do other things. The announced project for today is something different. They are working on more than one project at the moment - at least one is NOT Halo-related.

They broke away for two reasons:

1. They wanted the freedom to do things other than Halo (they are.)

2. They wanted more fredom (and presumably profit) from the Halo franchise. (Check.)

They never said they weren't going to do more Halo. People that assumed they would just walk away from the hundreds of millions of dollars associated with another Halo game are just naive. They are a business, after all.

lionkitten

@deathtastic: Try again.... more than just 4 MGs

Neocorey

I've been a Bungie fan since 1994. I'd *LOVE* to see a Marathon tie in.

Reuptake

@mentalboy11: Lately? Welcome to 1987 dude.

I don't know, as unsatisfying a close of the series Halo 3 was I'm not that excited about a new trilogy... and I don't want a new Marathon (Played them to death), Myth (Never interested in the series) or Oni (As broken as it was, it was a decent game and I don't want a current-generation extreme detail crate-fest).

All I wanted is a new IP now that Bungie is somewhat free to do whatever they want, but that won't happen soon, so I take this is gonna degenerate into a situation not unlike recording artists pissed off with their contracts, 3 more "make the publisher happy" games and then a big fuck you, see ya later.

zoesch

...
what is this douche baggery I see?

Seriously those who think that there are to many Halo games can shove it. How many fucking final fantasy games are there? or Mario games? Mega man? Sonic? and don't get me started on

As for people who want a chief-less halo. Well, I suppose I could understand it to an extent. but honestly why do you want one so badly? Its like asking for a Mario game where there is no Mario and you play as a koopa.

and honestly I don't see why there is so much hate for sequels. After all "Whats in a name?". to understand what I'm going for here tell me the differences between 2 average JRPG games with completely different names versus the differences from CoD2 to CoD4. or RE1, 2, & 3 versus 4 and the upcoming 5?

Anyway, its Bungie. the game will be good no matter what they make, whether it be Halo 4, a chief-less halo, or a New IP.

warpped655

This is awesome, and I can't wait to see it and play it. I don't know why some people are disappointed by this news, I mean I can see how you would want an original game from Bungie, but truly Halo is just too good a franchise for Bungie not to make another one.

Plus, with Halo Wars and Peter Jackson Halo, I think Bungie wants to show that their Halo is the best Halo.

WPack911

yay...another Halo game....nice to know MS has diversity in it's games.......

Sammo21

I can haz Rainbox Six Halo?!

IMarcus

@Pornosaur: Off the top of my head, Oni, and I think Myth too.

Yofu

a remake of marathon, or an oni 2 would be better. and i am a halo fanboy

feartheraven

Halo Ghost Recon Please

ZetaCrossfire

@Pattypie:

If it isn't branded as Halo, then I believe contractually Bungie can make the game multiplatform if they wanted.

flashtut

@IMarcus:

"I can haz Rainbox Six Halo?!"

But that would be awesome. Look at the AI in Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Call of Duty, etc. It's virtually non-existant. Their trigger points and monster closets are so friggin transparent that any and all fun and immersion is sucked out of the games.

COD5, for example. 4-player co-op. How is that going to work without completely revamping the spawn patterns and infinately respawning enemies? Not well. I'd imagine my sniper friend dishing out 20 headshots while covering us only to realize that the enemies are spawning to no end because we didn't cross an invisible line. That's turn-this-game-off-now kinds of sloppy and that's what I'd imagine COD5 will be (I'll definately try it).

Bungie has great AI for their enemies and they hide triggers and spawns VERY well.

Rainbow Six? Terrorist Hunt mode. Is it too much to ask that you NOT spawn a terrorist infront of me, Ubi? You come to realize why that cleared room is suddenly filled with terrorist life despite the fact that all enterances were covered when terrorists appear out of the f'n blue.

I just think that if Bungie approaches a squad based game where you control a bunch of marines, helljumpers, whatever, it could be awesome. They know AI. They know spawning. Their weapons are great. Coming across an Elite or Brute as a 5'10" marine would be a totally different experiance than doing it as a half-ton (or whatever they're supposed to weigh) Spartan. Hell, it'd probably be closer to stumbling across a Big Daddy than anything else.

I guess if no one else can do squad-based shooters without half-assing it, why not try one of the most acclaimed devs of recent time behind one of the best selling shooters of recent time and see if maybe someone shows Ubi and the rest of them how to do it right?

GorbyGipper

Awesome.

It's a cool universe and they're a great dev. I'm down for more Halo. It beats the living snot out of the predictable COD campaigns. I can fire up co-op games on Legendary with a bunch of skulls on and my friends and I will just lose 5 hours in an instant.

If they want to sprinkle more Bungie magic sauce on another Halo game, I'm there.

GorbyGipper

Honestly, If I made millions of dollars off making halo games, then your damn right id make more, its only common sense and im pretty sure you would all do the same, you guys might not admit it and be like "Id make what the consumer wants.." but in my opinion, everyone, if not all will choose money

Topchickenz

I really hope that big announcement that was canceled wasn't this halo game. Bungie needs to do something new, new IP, new genre. If they also work on Halo, then that's fine.

Placentasaurus

I'm actually kind of bored by the news, but I'm not against it. Bungie are certainly talented enough to develop more than one game at a time-- in fact, they confirmed a while ago that they had multiple teams running, so I doubt it's going to be a huge deal. The Halo fans are going to be grateful for a new in-universe game and the people who just want to see what Bungie are capable of (like me) are going to be excited about Pimps at Sea actually being, you know, a game about pimps. Who happen to be doing pimpish activities while at sea. Oh, discovering that wasn't just a Blue Harvest-esque placeholder title would be so awesome.

wild homes

@FP mind in rewind:

Yeah, they've really got them by the balls with that exclusive publishing stipulation. Has MS published games for any other platform besides Xbox and PC?

flashtut

@flashtut: In theory, yes. But, Bungie has an exclusive publishing deal with Microsoft. That was one of the terms of the split.

FP mind in rewind

earlier at e3, there was announced a final fantasy... 13.

13. alongside another 10 or more spinoffs. and the people cheered.

a spinoff 4th halo game and people whinge.

fuck you all.

aestheticity

*HALO 3 SPOILERS IN HERE*

My dream for this game would be the Chief and Cortana, stranded alone on the (Forerunner?) planet as seen at the end of H3. A third-person adventure game, with elements beyond straight shooting and vehicle-use. Puzzles, survival, exploration, all that stuff. The Halo series has turned into a large-scale marine buddy-fest. Bring it back down to Master Chief, by himself. A revived focus on the story and atmosphere so fans (and naysayers) can see the richness of the Halo universe would also be a must.

Xiedo

WOW, Luke... That's some poor grammar you've got going on.
Watch out for the past tense and present tense usage.

udiie

@Archaotic: they never said they were tired of halo, they just said now they have options to do what they wanted.

if this is what they wanted...

and don't forget about ol' plunger boy or whatever.

he surely doesn't look like he belongs amongst the ranks of the ODST.

presto117

They shuold bring back Myth
that game is the fuggin jump off

SmokeFemur

@lionkitten: Amen to Online-Only-Super-Halo. They could even keep that as the name and it would sell 8 million copies.

J-Fro

Does this mean more Game-Fuel?

*crosses fingers*

MrPhil