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Guitar Hero News From MS Presser - Van Halen, The Eagles, Metallica
Posted by Mike Fahey at 4:50 AM on July 15, 2008
Red Octane founder Kai Huang took the stage today at Microsoft's E3 2008 presser to toss out a few pertinent Guitar Hero related tidbits. First up, REM DLC is coming, and Xbox 360 owners will get first shot at it when it drops. Then Huang revealed that Van Halen and The Eagles will be completely exclusive to Guitar Hero: World Tour. No Hot For Teacher for Rock Band? Not fair.
Finally, Metallica is coming to Guitar Hero in a big way, with DLC being readied to release alongside their new album, Death Magnetic, which is guaranteed to completely make up for Saint Sinner...as if any album could actually contain such power.

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Ghar
Posted 7:10 AM 15/7/08
@iameleveneight:
"better product"? Well now you're just trolling.
At this point it's a matter of opinion to which is better.
And as the sales show, plenty of people already have the GH3 guitar which will work with WT. Thus, if someone wanted to, they could just buy the WT disc and maybe get the other instruments later if they wanted or whatever. This is also true for Rock Band but less people have RB1 than GH3.
@Mal-Content:
That's why I made it a question >_> I wasn't sure what the deal was exactly with AC/DC. Either way, both companies are going to do whatever they think will bring in the most profit.
Ghar
JYJ705
Posted 7:09 AM 15/7/08
@Jazhuis:
i dare you to cross it?"
please tell me your quoting i will survive by cheap trick...
JYJ705
Mal-Content
Posted 7:03 AM 15/7/08
@Ghar: I dont think they said it was exclusive, just they got them first. That's not a bad thing.
Eagles loss is ok-they sold out years ago. Van Halen sucks, but whatever.
Mal-Content
iameleveneight
Posted 6:54 AM 15/7/08
@Ghar:
Guitar Hero 3 is ahead of Rock Band because of name and the fact that its cheaper, but what happens when Rock Band goes to WT and is more expensive? There goes half its edge, is name enough to keep it afloat or are they shooting themselves in the foot trying to compete with a better product?
Would they be better off sticking to straight guitar? That would remain to be seen.
iameleveneight
Falsoman
Posted 6:53 AM 15/7/08
I'm likely to end up buying GH IV anyway, but I don't like music exclusives.
But DAMN i'm starting to feel torn about GH and RB, since i preffer GH drumbs (wich most likely have more impact in gameplay than the Rock band ones, since are standard) and the Music creation tool and the inevitable Game covers made by the comunity. However, the amount of content and openness(?) on rockband is outstanding.
I'm suffering right here.
Falsoman
iameleveneight
Posted 6:50 AM 15/7/08
I wanted Hot for Teacher for RB, but GHWT REALLY needs to have a ridiculously stellar track list to beat out the liquid schwartz that is Rock Band 2's.
Plus if the Rock Band gear isn't compatible with GHWT then fuck em anyways. I don't have the space and definitely don't want to spend the money for another set of peripherals. Hopefully Activision's heads aren't shoved that far up their collective asses that they don't do that (which they probably won't and will end my GH streak).
iameleveneight
Ghar
Posted 6:47 AM 15/7/08
@harlock_JDS: Pretty sure E3 isn't just a one day thing. And Activision recently split from the ESA... but their full setlist will surely be out soon for all to compare it with Rock Band's
@Phoenicks:
Face it, the sales show that Guitar Hero is way ahead of Rock Band still. So um, troll harder plox?
@Mal-Content:
Didn't Harmonix already make AC/DC exclusive to Rock Band?
Ghar
Mal-Content
Posted 6:35 AM 15/7/08
@Huckleberry: Indeed. Activision's greed for exclusivity shows a)they have an inferior product and they need to do something b)they are only set on ruining the rhythm game genre. Eventually RB will HAVE to sign exclusives to make sure they have good tracks for their games. And then both side's fans will just tune them both out.
Exclusives hurt us all.
Activision is fast eclipsing EA as a bunch of jackasses
Mal-Content
murph
Posted 6:33 AM 15/7/08
RB - Metallica "Battery" pwns GH - Metallica's whole new crappy album.
Van Halen as a GH exclusive is disappointing though.
murph
Phoenicks
Posted 6:33 AM 15/7/08
I just found it funny to see and hear the reaction to Guitar Hero during the presser.
GUITAR HERO!!!!
*crickets*
METALLICA!!!!
*crickets*
Rock Band 2 will allow you to import all of your Rock Band 1 songs (which we've known for weeks)
*Thunderous applause*
Face it: this is a Rock Band world, and "Guitar" Hero's attempt to cash in on the craze is clearly visible to all and not being accepted by gamers.
Phoenicks
harlock_JDS
Posted 6:26 AM 15/7/08
@outforprophets: i thought it was common knowledge that they were going to reveal at least most of the track list at E3.
You would think that Activision would have at least 1 trick up it's sleeve.
harlock_JDS
Salen
Posted 6:23 AM 15/7/08
No Van Halen for Rock Band? ;_; No David Lee Roth! Nooooooooooooo!
No Metallica for Rock Band? :) That's fine. Keep them. Those musical jerks deserve to not be on Rock Band.
Salen
outforprophets
Posted 6:20 AM 15/7/08
@harlock_JDS: like Activision knew that the RB2 set list was going to drop. You can troll better than that.
outforprophets
SeedyROM
Posted 6:19 AM 15/7/08
Meh, Rock Band 2 please.
SeedyROM
Jestersage
Posted 6:11 AM 15/7/08
At least Activision NintenDO what Harmonix NintenDON'T
Jestersage
sanyo
Posted 6:00 AM 15/7/08
I don't like Van Halen or the Eagles enough to care. Not that it matters anyway, I'm still getting just the disc so I can at least play guitar.
sanyo
Curb_Smackage
Posted 5:58 AM 15/7/08
GUITAR HERO IV!!!!! ..........METALLICA!!!!!! ...............HEART ATTACK!!!!!!
Curb_Smackage
Curb_Smackage
Posted 5:56 AM 15/7/08
GUITAR HERO IV!!!! ...........METALLICA!!!!! .............HEART ATTACK!!!!!
Curb_Smackage
IndustrialJones
Posted 5:49 AM 15/7/08
Man, too bad I'm going with Rockband2. There are a handful of Van Halen and Eagles songs I'd like, but I can live without. I only play RB/GH on medium and the Metallica songs are at the top of my skill level. I like to listen to them, but playing is another story.
IndustrialJones
harlock_JDS
Posted 5:47 AM 15/7/08
>Van Halen & the Eagles
Rock bank drops an amazing track list and all GH4 can come back with is crap like that?
harlock_JDS
Huckleberry
Posted 5:46 AM 15/7/08
Grrr. Activision, I'm still not buying your inferior product. All the Van Halen exclusivity is doing is making me angry.
:(
... and unhappy :\ I want Panama in my Rock Band.
Huckleberry
Blind_3
Posted 5:41 AM 15/7/08
I don't like the though of exclusive bands. My only hope is that this exclusivity is only a timed thing so others can enjoy it too. I will probably end up buying the new GH but I also have Rock Band and it will piss me off when I have to change my game disc and peripherals just to play a Van Halen song...
Blind_3
DayTrade
Posted 5:23 AM 15/7/08
Van Halen, REM, Eagles. Eghh ... okay, so long as it's not a dedicated game like Aerosmith.
Entire games for the Beatles & ACDC would be great for the revenue line.
DayTrade
dady5000
Posted 5:21 AM 15/7/08
Damn you...
Exclusivity will only hurt the business in the long run.
dady5000
Qalbert
Posted 5:21 AM 15/7/08
Saint Anger*
Qalbert
Struct09
Posted 5:20 AM 15/7/08
@Solidius: Well, Activision isn't technically at E3 this year due to leaving the ESA.
Struct09
brooza
Posted 5:19 AM 15/7/08
I'd probably still pick GH:WT. Not bothered about the drums*, and half of the songs that I'm interested in on RB2 are in one of the GH games.
*Although I'd probably get them for Hot For Teacher
brooza
zaboo
Posted 5:19 AM 15/7/08
So is the entire Metallica album releasing, or just a track pack?
zaboo
alzheimers
Posted 5:18 AM 15/7/08
@Twoflower: And Dream Theater. RB2 has it, they have my money, it's a perfect circle!
alzheimers
gameware
Posted 5:17 AM 15/7/08
Some people prefer Rock Band, others Guitar Hero. At least the competition is making for better games. Not so sure about Rock Revolution though.
gameware
blizzardjesus
Posted 5:16 AM 15/7/08
Oh man I laughed when nobody applauded guitar hero 4.
But REM and Metalica. Come on guys its not 1995 anymore.
blizzardjesus
DarkHomer
Posted 5:14 AM 15/7/08
awh damn,,i thought that was already exclusive to rock band? oh well,,i guess i'll download it for GH3,
DarkHomer
otakuhouse
Posted 5:12 AM 15/7/08
Sad to lose Van Halen, I even like Van Hagar.
Like the crowd at E3, I was a lot more impressed by Rock Band 2.
And what happened to the Beatles?
otakuhouse
BStu
Posted 5:12 AM 15/7/08
Oh, c'mon. Why does GH get more R.E.M.? Is that just going to be for GH3? That's even worse. Darn it.
BStu
brooza
Posted 5:12 AM 15/7/08
woo!
PANAMA!
brooza
thegreatseal
Posted 5:11 AM 15/7/08
The only band that sucks more than Metallica is Van Halen.
Bummer about the Eagles though.
*Still happy playing rock band.*
thegreatseal
Twoflower
Posted 5:06 AM 15/7/08
I guess I'm lucky; I have a guitar compatible with both games, Activision would have to be insane not to use standard USB mikes, and I don't play drums. I can play both games.
But even with these exclusivity announcements, if I was forced to pick between the two, I'd have to go RB2. More songs, back compat, RB1 disc ripping, etc. It's just overflowing.
Twoflower
thefais
Posted 5:06 AM 15/7/08
Exclusive bands are weak sauce.
Fortunately it's just Van Halen & the Eagles. If it was The Who, Zeppelin or the Beatles, I would be outraged.
thefais
ZeeBeeEss
Posted 5:05 AM 15/7/08
St. Anger, dummies. How can you forget the name of something so terrible? Like an ancient horror that shant be named aloud.
ZeeBeeEss
Akomander
Posted 5:05 AM 15/7/08
Saint Sinner? Wait... what?
Akomander
Spinell
Posted 5:05 AM 15/7/08
Not to sure about the new Metallica Album.
Spinell
Solidius
Posted 5:05 AM 15/7/08
I'm disappointed that they didn't show gameplay of GH4 at E3.
Solidius
Jazhuis
Posted 5:04 AM 15/7/08
Well, the battle lines have been drawn...
Jazhuis
Incarnina
Posted 5:04 AM 15/7/08
Saint Sinner?
Um....it's Saint Anger. Or Saint Crap. One of the two.
Incarnina
RedRaptor
Posted 5:03 AM 15/7/08
Van Halen and the Eagles? Awesome.
Metallica? AARRRGH RAAAAGE TEHSRGFDAGSADFGNFDSANGSfdsa
RedRaptor
Mal-Content
Posted 7:45 AM 15/7/08
@Ghar: quite right, sir. I dont mind innovation or even different sets. Exclusivity is just a remenant of old gaming thought that only hurts the same people they want to sell to.
Mal-Content
chinesedentist
Posted 7:42 AM 15/7/08
Van Halen and the Eagles vs AC/DC and Bob Dylan?
I'll take AC/DC and Dylan any day.
Exclusivity is weak sauce either way, but Harmonix tends to pick songs more in line with my taste, as the incredible Rock Band 2 track list has left me awe-struck.
chinesedentist
Epaminondas
Posted 7:32 AM 15/7/08
@blizzardjesus: You mean it's not 1985 anymore!
VH, Metalica, and The Eagles on GH? If AC/DC goes exclusive on GH I'm not going to be getting the next Rock Band, shit, that's half the music I listened to growing up right there.
Epaminondas
OmegaVader
Posted 7:23 AM 15/7/08
I'm hating this exclusivity crap. If the guitar hero gaemplay wasn't completely messed with in GH3, I wouldn't mind, but since Rock Band is the only game continuing the GH2 guitar experience. I'm pissed.
OmegaVader
thefais
Posted 8:25 AM 15/7/08
It seems as though the momentum on here has shifted back to Rock Band. Excellent timing on behalf of EA. After Activision got GH IV and the music composer announced, EA and Harmonix shot back with Rock Band 2, now a complete setlist, backwards compatibility, etc. It'll be interesting to see Activision's reaction.
All this competition can only be good for the genre... Nobody can just sit on their asses and hope the name pushes them through. Exclusivity, on the other hand...
thefais
Benjammn
Posted 9:04 AM 15/7/08
It is settled: I will buy GH:WT package for the better peripherals (and decent library), and just the RB2 game disc for the great library. I feel so great having not been screwed by buying RB1. :D
Benjammn
BathTubNZ
Posted 9:48 AM 15/7/08
I hate exclusivity, but Metallica isn't exclusive, they are in RB too.
BathTubNZ
harlock_JDS
Posted 10:07 AM 15/7/08
@La Sepultura:
or just like goofing around and don't want button presses just for the sake of making things hard.
in GH i always felt the game got in the way of the fun. That's not true for rock band.
harlock_JDS
La Sepultura
Posted 10:02 AM 15/7/08
The problem with Rock Band is that the gameplay sucks compared to Guitar Hero unless you happen to have 3 other friends that can also play on Expert.
La Sepultura
stranger
Posted 10:24 AM 15/7/08
THANK GOD!
I hate the fucking Eagles man! More Rock Band please...
stranger
kokiri-kid
Posted 2:49 PM 15/7/08
haha, people choosing sides, dumbasses
im getting both, the only bad thing is im gonna be really poor =(
but, i get gh4 and rb2, i get any exclusives each game could have
kokiri-kid