@Doomstalk: Better not be bundled with the next Spiderman game, then. Web-slinging just got a lot more intuitive.

CHU BOI

@Fulgurator: Who do you think will use this? The Wii already has their own wireless controller, the PS3 has SixAxis, and this WILL be just an attempt of Microsoft to jump on the band wagon. The question is, do you think people will buy this as a 3rd party peripheral for the games that support it? Odd's are. No. It's like me buying 4 controllers for all the 4 player games I have, then having to buy a second set for all the games that support it. Not going to happen, this will be most likely unveiled as a 1st party peripheral and who better to unveil it then a company that does not have a motion controller.

PumpkinPieman

The way he's gripping the controller in that photo looks vaguely masturbatory.

Doomstalk

@griffinrider: Strange huh :S Maybe it's just a bad joke from somebody who missed april fools and thought better late then never...

Jippon

@photoboy: "It looks very thick and heavy"

That's what she said. Sorry, had to.

CHU BOI

Newton would kick Darwin's in a dildo fight!

Helioz

@Sphinx: What I would expect to see happen first is all of the shovelware on Wii being scooped up and ported onto the 360.

Then some of those 360 fanboys can get an idea what those who bought a Wii have been experiencing, as the good games coming out get steadily buried under piles and piles of casual/mini-game garbage.

TRT-X

I've seen this before: Bop-it! Twist-it! Pull-it!

jmadara

Not one, but... two (!) straps? ... and I thought I was in heaven when my Wiimote gave me one. Truly, tis a good day to be alive.

Slagar

@Sniper_Zegai:
You don't move in on casuals by stating your product is like the Wii, only more high-tech.

If this is an attempt to capture the casuals, it's a poor one.

elementary

That controller looks like it belongs on Fleshbot.

Metkis

F*ck motion controls. Do not invade all the good games out there with crappy motion controls. I hate driving games with motion (mario kart with motion controls sucks!), I hate FPS with motion controls, and I hate action games with motion controls. The only games that should have motion controls are games that are specifically made to have them... like Boom Blox, Wii Sports, Wario Ware etc. Kindly get your motion controls out of my Xbox/PS3.

KID-A26

Man, you guys are freaking haters! I am pretty impressed with this controller; it seems very responsive. My only fear is that it would break apart into two pieces while you're playing and fly out of your hands.

Arkos

@Jippon: I noticed that too. Looks like the demo is rigged.

There's a part in the Harry Potter video when the guy looks back at the screen and notices the character moving and reacts by waving his arms in the same direction.

griffinrider

So, are the wild movements the two people playing lego starwars are making them reliving childhood fantasy or because the motion control is so insensitive?

Accordion

I already have a Wii

I'll wait until MS releases its own probably with the next generation of the XBox.

fdisk

@Mr. Fap☆Fap!:

Giant? That's downright puny!!

BigWyrm

@ThursdayNext: Wouldn't be surprised.

TRT-X

@ksins5: Can we officially ban anybody who makes a post indicating they think this is made by Microsoft?

Headline-only readers FTL.

TRT-X

Does it work on PC also?

CockroachMan

are they allowed to use that dpad? didnt nintendo patent it?

SilverDogg

In fact the more I read of this the more it seems like a load of baloney.

According to Motus' site Darwin (which incidentally is not a trademark belonging to or applied for by Motus in the US, Canada, the UK or Europe despite the TM on their site) works "kind of like a personal GPS but using a different kind of technology" and it doesn't use IR.

If you ask me (or if you don't) this is the usual tube with l.e.d's in it being waved around while a co-conspirator plays the game with a proper controller.

ThursdayNext

@ShaggE: Hahaha your prediction wins.

Omnimon

For the love of God, the 360 does not need a stupid gimmicky controller.

Boudabras

No IR? Ok, the Wiimote motion stuff is neat, but the IR pointing is where the real potential lies.

dry-roasted-peanuts

I can't believe no one has picked me up on my stupid comment yet. It was a late night, but that is no excuse. Maybe, just maybe Kotaku does have an anti troll/flame filter :)

furiku

@klainmaingr: LOL, I almost spew water onto my keyboard after I read that. "Motion controller" indeed.

ksins5

@ksins5: It isn't made by Microsoft. Are you idiots even reading the article?

TheGuilty1

This looks just like this new synthisizer instrument thingamabob that was featured on TRACKS a few weeks ago together with the thing by the guy who made Electroplankton and these cubes Björk is using.

My oh my, look at my astonishing memory for names!

FranUnFine

@Al3xandr0s: Is it really that hard to glance over something to see if you find it interesting or not? Just because you don't find this interesting, that doesn't mean I don't, or countless others don't either. You could hire me, $300 a day for the first month (an introductory price!), and I will do a series of tests to determine what you would be interested in and compile a list of information relative to you, and only you, and present it to you for your enjoyment. Never shall your eyes be bothered with something you don't find interesting!

Sphinx

In the lego star wars vid... obi only moves if the dude says he moves him... you see the dude waggle the controller a couple of times without obi moving...
This makes me think there's somebody with a normal controller off camera.

Jippon

What about Sony? They have a motion controller in the works that supposedly breaks apart(kinda like this does)

enewtabie

It looks fantastic really. I'd be happy to have something like this for my 360/PS3 so that I'd hopefully have the option to buy Wii ports that were in HD. Boom Blox is awesome on the Wii, but it'd be awesomer (yes, that's a word) in HD.

MSUSteve

@ShaggE:

You can see the future! Amazing.

Fulgurator

Not including the a pointer is a big mistake, gesture 'buttons' dont add anything to a game but realtime pointer navigation does.

Accordion

@PumpkinPieman: Read. The. Article. It's not a Microsoft product.

ShaggE

@PumpkinPieman:
Mo microsoft involved. Please read the article, not just the headline and photo.

Fulgurator

There seems to be a lot of latency when they play Lego Star Wars, huh?

Vetterli

I really hope that top half is secure, because I can imagine that flying off in a heartbeat. With all the Wii-mote damage cause, I hope the Darwin has a lock to keep the two parts connected.

Super_Nintendo_Chalmers

Wasn't some Microsoft representative saying that casual Wii owners usually grow up and migrate to a PS3 or 360? Isn't this a little hypocritical of Microsoft?

Pretty pathetic.

PumpkinPieman

considering the fact that the controller does snap into two pieces I suppose it wouldn't be terribly uncomfortable to use as a game controler. We've all seen mods of the xbox controller using accelerometers and this controller seems like a logical continuation to that concept. I am not sure how you can say it is ugly.. it is just a cylindrical shape... as if it was something new to human kind to see.. could the plastic be modled into a different streamlined shape? ya.. why not? who knows.. probably worried about making too many people think it was ugly or phalic

Serpent2

Directly on-topic, its difficult to get excited about this although motion controls + HD is an interesting prospect. Kinda fills both wants as long as the software delivers.

majatt

I'd be interested in something like this for the 360, as long as they made some fun games for it. My Wii has been collecting dust.

Sphinx

Also, you guys post way too many news bits and bury potentially interesting stuff with crap like this and fit porn. I think it'd be better to just combine lesser news into a single post with a list to give the rest of the actual gaming stuff more prominent... Please? Unless you can make it so I can somehow filter out all this crap but it's probably impossible since they can refer to all sorts of subjects I may actually want to read about...

Al3xandr0s

It looks very thick and heavy, I can't see that going down well with the mainstream crowd.

I know they claim it's more accurate than the Wii, but I'm not convinced by the lack of a sensor bar. I mean, if it picks up horizontal and vertical movement and translates that to a pointer, then that's half the way there. But will developers want to take the time to work out what to do if I turn 90 degrees to the right and then try to use it as a pointer? Will it still work? If it's used as a light gun, what happens if I step closer to the screen? All in all, I think the lack of a fixed sensing point could hamper this. It's clear the games they've hacked to use motion controls don't have any need for a pointer so they appear to have glossed over this omission.

photoboy

Just look at the (good) d-pad, theres no way MS can be involved.

TheHun

at first i wasn't that interested in it,wow its a wii controler for the xbox,but after the videos id proberly get it(if it was priced right).Also aslong as it was properly supported by microsoft and the game publishers

kelder

Honestly, I still don't know how I feel about this.

~soul

Black_Ops_19

Also, why does the title of this article ask a question? It's pretty clear this isn't "it" if "it" even exists. And why the heck ask a comment from Microsoft? It's already clear they aren't associated with this company in any way, what do you expect them to say if they even know about this? Oh right, added stupid drama just gets the forum pests blood flowing ey?

Al3xandr0s

It's a good thing Darwin is dead. He'll burn all his evolution theories if he could see this abuse of his good name.

It's just plain hideous.

Fulgurator

I've never seen anything like it!

The actions on screen actually mimic those performed in real life AND you can hold another piece in your off hand which functions as a joystick and has motion sensing of its own!

No Way!!!

griffinrider

How soon before the teledildonics attachments?

"I love the Darwin. It's so bad."

Eltigro

@tokyoshi: indeed, so many sex toy jokes, so little time, eh?

Mazda Plainview

Good god ol' mighty, what the hell is that thing? I'm not sure even if a woman would enjoy that thing.

tokyoshi

Am i the only one thinking that "motion controller" is not the first thing that comes to mind?

klainmaingr

Haven't people learned that making weird controllers for existing games designed for standard controllers will never, ever, EVER work?

Unless Microsoft make a motion controller and make games (or at least ports/patches) designed with that control scheme in mind, nothing like this will ever work out.

Al3xandr0s

I can tell that this is going to be one of those times when a bunch of commenters prove that they don't actually read the articles...

ShaggE

If MS does come with their own, you can't be mad at them. Their current strategy is working well based on the previous attempt but compared to the Wii they now see there are alot more dollars to be made by trying to branch out.

majatt

I like how it seems to work better than the wiimote. I didn't see them have to retry any of the actions.

Inhert

I can see one quick problem with this. They snap into each other right. What if you are left handed, surely it would have been a nice option to snap into either side?

furiku

@ksins5: more accurately, it looks like a dildosaber =P

neuralien

I agree that this controller looks too complicated. I suspect that it will have a minimal amount of software support, and will probably be more of a gimmick than the Wiimote is, due to it being created merely to soften the blow the Wii is making on the HD market.

UkGuru

I don't see how this is that different from a Wiimote or 2x Wiimote.

Obviously it's cool but is it revolutionary?

WiNG

This is the Power Glove of this generation. Fail. >_<

Zaxxon Q Blaque

looks even more unresponsive than the wii. lets hope sony stick to their guns and not jump ship into the piss-poor world of motion sensing.

Primebuster

It seriously looks like he's holding a giant dick in that picture.

Mr. Fap☆Fap!

I like how, in the first video, the guy pretends that swinging the controller around makes Obi-Wan swing his lightsaber. Uhm, hello? The characters in Lego Star Wars will swing their lightsabers like that regardless of the control method used.

neuralien

Hmmm...I dunno, I think this looks well shady...

ThursdayNext

Is it just me or does that look awkwardly uncomfortable to hold to play any games other than a light-saber game?

Master Saji

I wanted to say 'not elegant', but hat is just butt-ugly..

Geraldo

@Seaweed: Well, they don't mention microsoft. That doesn't mean they aren't working with them. We just dont know.

Brian Crecente

It looks like a dildo/a vibrator. Good job, Microsoft!

ksins5

I was sick of playing with motion controllers since September. Also I think thats the tube I keep my toothbrush in when I'm traveling

Bernoulli

Interesting. They did seems to have a little lag on them. . .but that could be because they were not developed from the ground up with these games.

macr0planet

Do not want T_T

Kanoopy

With the 360 price tag rivalling the Wii, it would'nt surprise me if this was a move to close in on the "casual" gamer market, although it depends how much the controller itself would cost.

Sniper_Zegai

Well, saying that it's more accurate than the Wii Remote isn't terribly reassuring, as my experience with the Wii Remote has been very mixed. If this allows No More Heroes to be properly ported to Xbox 360 with motion controls in-tact, then I'll gladly sell my Wii and get an Xbox 360 without even thinking about it.

kubevubin

Without the console manufacturer it will have no games made for it , it will not work, it will fail.

PJK

im ready for monday

ZetaCrossfire

@JustJake: are you retarded it says numerous times this has nothing to do with microsoft

Seaweed

@JustJake: "According to the site, which makes no mention of working with Microsoft..."

slomo788

What motion controler? lol at Microsoft.

JustJake

@klainmaingr: Agreed.

ThursdayNext

@CockroachMan: This is one of the whole reasons why I picked up Resident Evil 4. I've played it before on GameCube and PS2 and it is far better on Wii due to the IR sensors. The Wii UI has always been jiggly for me, but the games (putting Red Steel aside) have always been very accurate and quite a lot of fun.

PumpkinPieman

what ever its for....its a bag of shit

juscallmeweasel

@lucasreis:

Yeah, I wouldn't go online playing with it but it is more fun to play with motion controls, just that much more chaotic.

majatt

@vega75: They've since backed away from saying that. I linked both our feb coverage of the darwin and then our more recent interview with Modus in the story.

It sounds like they either want to keep it under wraps or it is for both.

Brian Crecente

Not enough buttons to be an Xbox 360 controller.

Besides, engadget reported on this very same controller back in February and it was stated that this was a PC controller. Think about it: all three of the games demonstrated are on the PC.

The Lego Star Wars video shows a friggin laptop and PC copies of all the demoed games in the corner of the frame, for peet's sake! It's for PC!

Phoenicks

5 retards
+1 Dildo-ish shampoo container
+2 wireless 360 or ps3 controllers
+1 webcam
+1 blog ready to buy anything
-Aprils 1st
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Todays fakevid.. Gratz :D

klainmaingr

The controls look to comnplex to the article writer??

Ummm...hello?? Has the WiiMote decreased your brain efficiency or something?

dirtypanda

Interesting how thye made fun of the Wii-mote, now they are making knock offs.

EmeraldDragon

Motion controls are stupid, unresponsive and useless to 90% of games. Please stop making this shit.

KillerBee

Modded version of Wii remote. Same wrist straps and everything.

Luffay

I really don't see this ending well if MS is in fact supporting this. Or Sony. The controller seems to be very laggy in the Star Wars video and there's no pointer in any of the games. More likely due to the fact that those games didn't have a pointer to begin with, more so than anything else, but if it doesn't have a pointer it won't be doing anything but giving Sony/MS waggle.

Plus, MS's new motion sensing controller is more six-axis like...I've been calling it for too long now...

JGab

i'm new to posting on this site. but i think this article is leaving out the fact that this controller is also for the ps3. and both controllers will released at the end of the year. here a link [blog.wired.com]

i think these sites running out to make MS look like they are copying the wii controller. are forgetting that the same company is making the controller for the ps3 too. and both will be released at the end of the year.

vega75

This casual market thing MS is chasing is a red herring. The people buying 360s and PS3s are not casual gamers, the huge library of games on those consoles are not designed for casual gamers, their interfaces aren't designed for casual gamers. Casual gamers will also not tolerate the RRoD and disatisfied ones will spread their disatisfaction like wildfire. Unlike core gamers, casuals will not be burned more than once by a bad product.

fenderfuel08

That is v ugly!!
@Legaldeath187: its xbox, look at the pic, it has a green a button and the 4 lights to tell you which player you are

juscallmeweasel

@PumpkinPieman: Indeed.. the best thing of the Wiimote IMO is the pointer thing, makes the controller perfect for FPS games and PC mouse-oriented games in general.. and it's the only Wii-feature that really makes a difference in most games.. without that, it's pretty "meh" :P

CockroachMan

@KID-A26: I´ll have to disagree on Mario Kart Wii. I´ve always liked Mario Kart and even some of the ripoffs like Crash and some game I used to play on my computer with karts. That said, I´m having a blast playing Mario Kart Wii with motion controls, I think it rocks.

lucasreis

PS nothing they are doing in the video looks any more accurate than other motion controllers already on the market.

Granthunter

Oh dear god, it looks so uncomfy and not user friendly. People who bought the Wii for the control were drawn to it because of it simplicity, just waggle it and there you go, not for some weird thing with lots of buttons everywhere. Oh man!!

valhum

Ok here is a bit of random speculation here I guess but did anyone notice a couple of things.

1. Every game that was choosen to show off this Dildoripheral, was a game that is cross platform. Meaning it could be a 360 game or it could be a PC game. But here's the shocker. WASN'T SONY WORKING ON A BREAK APART CONTROLLER OR SOMETHIN LIKE THAT? UMMMHMMMMMM

2. The color scheme of the controllers, the one in the black is the color of an elite, and the white one is the color of a regular xbox. SO IT COULD BE MICROSOFT. UMMMHMM

3. Notice they took all the button prompts off the game so that you couldn't see what they were playing on? And then they are playing it on a TV which more than likely indicates there is a system somewhere, hidden. WHICH ONE 360 or PS3

Legaldeath187

I thought he was holding two epic walkie talkies when he split them apart.

Mr.Weasel

@graddy: i smell photoshop.. And actually this pic is a huge pile of $hit and photoshop...

klainmaingr

@TRT-X: Unfortunately, that is probably a perfect prediction.

Sphinx

@Granthunter: Bingo. This is what I got out of it, it's not any more revolutionary then the Wiimote. I'd like to see it navigate a UI without relying on the D-Pad. :D

PumpkinPieman

Or this will end up like max console or something.

Al3xandr0s

those straps look vaguely familiar to the wii mote straps. I smell patent infringement lawsuit!!!

graddy

@ksins5: I was really ready for something different when i read "in action"...
The videos totally got me disappointed..
Oh well.. you can't have everything..

p.s: My gf would probably be more interested in video games after watching this :P

klainmaingr

@Sphinx: When did I say my problem is what I read? My problem is what gets buried, they keep posting shovelnews and it makes decent posts go back to the second page or something, it's like they have a contest to see which journalist will post the more stuff. Does their wage depend on that? If so, change it, quality over quantity.

Al3xandr0s

If anything, Apple will sue over the name. Don't they have something called Darwin?

Entegy

@griffinrider:
Yeah, I saw that to and was like WTF.
The responses seem all fucked up and inaccurate.

VishusBurn

Anyone else think it looks like a "Bop-It?"

TomSkylark

The problem with the company's statement is that they are under the impression that swing controls on the Wii are based on the IR pointer. The IR pointer and the accelerometer are separate components that allow for different forms of input. Boom Blox used both in tandem to make a new type of game. So what you are looking at is actually a Wii remote with fewer features, bravo.

Granthunter

I demand a plastic lightsaber blade on that controller. Then I'll buy one. Ok, probably not.

Salen

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Al3xandr0s

Of course, by your logic I could also have continued until the 200th comment and have the page end since you could ignore it and click to move to the next page.

Al3xandr0s

By your logic, the above is all fine since you cna just ignore it. I'm sure it can guarantee a ban here but unless they improve the situation I won't care that much...

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I'll believe it when I see it.

Wolfers

You guys reported on this product before.

jsf49

@juscallmeweasel: Nice catch. Well that controller in specific. There might be another one that has red for PS and blue for Wii. Not likely though. I wouldn't buy this for my Wii\PS3.

PumpkinPieman

I smell an on rails Halo shooter game

TheLegendof_Erick

Is that a Lightsaber? xD

zerojad

It looks pretty neat and I like how it splits but it looks like it has some terrible delay.

It's really easy to see in the Tiger Woods and Lego Star Wars videos but seems to be hidden a little more in the Harry Potter one (too bad the controls on that one look like ass though).

twesterms 2nd

@ThursdayNext: That's what I was thinking. This is just a really elaborate hoax, it seems.

peAr nectAr

@Al3xandr0s: There is a button in the bottom right hand corner marked "Next". Press that and see what happens!

Sphinx

@Brian Crecente- i think that these wii-clone controllers are a stupid idea. and i think both companies (MS,sony) shouldn't be worried about trying to be like the wii. i just hate when a story isn't reported right or made to make one company look bad.

vega75

Yeah theres some terrible lag there. And just watch the Star Wars vid, maybe Im crazy but theres a bunch of times where the main guy is wildly swinging the remote and NOTHING happens until a full 3-4 seconds later.

Onegai

@ Article

These videos were added to YouTube back on Feb. 13, 2008...

Check it out yourself

YesILikeGuys

With those nintendo like straps and nintendo style dpad, methinks a wii remould I spy

oskarkeo

A good 2 second lag ... not sold.

element7

It looks pretty choreographed to me, trying to time up his golf swing with the actual swing in the game. Even if it's legit and they hacked a bunch of games to get it to work (obviously those games didn't have motion control when they launched), I don't see it catching on. Does anyone remember the third-party PS2 controllers that let you simulate bowling/golf/etc. with motion controls, right when the Wii came out? Those seemed to die off pretty quickly.

Gavelwrench

@twesterms 2nd: Are you sure that's actually lag and not delay from the guy off camera going "oh crap I'm supposed to moving the character now!"

TRT-X

Another thought, the 360 dashboard would have to be updated as well in order to support this thing, so another reason why it's probably fake. There was a dashboard update for the Big Button controller for SceneIT, and for the Guitar Hero and Rock Band controllers. So they'd really need Microsoft's cooperation in order to have a motion controller that the console would even recognize.

mikeha

It either looked unresponsive or a hoax. Either way, fail.

kojirodensetsu

all sex toy jokes aside, i 'did' just buy my loving wife a gift which perfectly resembles this motion controller...

sandyklep

@mikeha: You can't come out with a good one like that, but you can come out with a crappy piece of shit that translates gestures into standard button presses on its own, and that's what this thing is.

Al3xandr0s

at least its bugger than the wiimote

zakky venom

It looks interesting. I dont think I like the design of the controller, looks too light-saberesque. These guys are talented, but without MS support its not going anywhere.

svenhoek

This could be a fake. The lag apparent makes it look like they are pretending to use the motion controller while an off-screen person actually plays the game using a 360 gamepad.

I know a bit about programming games (XNA), and the programmers of those games would have had to program in the support for a motion controller like that. You can't just come out with a motion controller that works with any game without the game having support for it built in.

Unless these guys bring this thing to E3 and let people try it for themselves, I'm calling them out as fakers.

mikeha

I'll pass on the laggy dildo, thanks.

Hiroken

That thing looks so ugly. Looks like a giant dildo.

Impster

@Entegy: Yeah, I think Darwin is the name of the OS X kernel or some subsystem thing that apple uses. Oh, and Newton was their first hand held device.

Two things:
It looks like it was designed to look cool sitting on top of your TV.
The Wii remote and nun-chuck is ergonomic out the wazoo. Its the most comfortable controller I've ever used and I play all of my Wii games that allow it with that set-up (Mario Kart & Brawl included). I can lay my arms comfortably where I wish and relax.
This darwin thing is designed to look like a ninja sword sitting on a stand and everything else about the design seems secondary.

Secondly, the whole point of the wii-remote was to reduce the amount of buttons and SIMPLIFY the controller by replacing detached button presses with intuitive motions. These guys are totally negating the point by putting a zillion triggers and d-pads and thumb sticks all over these things.

But those two things do not matter. What does matter is that its a 3rd party peripheral that will see limited support and collect dust.

PS - My wii is dusty, except for the eject button. I'm sure it would be dust free if I had to ship it off or wrap it in a towel to make it run. ;-)

Ptolemy

Have you seen the delay on this thing? it's horrible!
That won't get released this year that's for sure. When the delay gets fixed, then microsoft or sony will begin to think about it, not before.

QC8472

The motion control for LEGO Star Wars looks a less accurate than it was on Wii.

Willy105

@Brian Crecente: Oh Crecente! *face palm*

You know how much your words weigh in on this discussion so why would you interject an opinion like that? :(

okenny :)

@ Article

These videos were added to youtube back on Feb. 13 of this year.

I guess that was unofficial? Or leaked?

YesILikeGuys

@griffinrider: Wich makes this whole situation even more pathetic. I mean, if you are trying to trick people, at least make a credible video damit.

random_dude

Excelent moderating Brian ;) @Brian Crecente:

Acute Gamer

@ksins5:

Good job to you! BECAUSE IT ISN'T MADE BY MICROSOFT YOU IDIOT.

CVV1

Motion control sucks, i don't want to have to move a single muscle when i'm gaming.

nitram100

I hope at least the motion sensing control thing becomes an option, like brawl was. That's how all wii games (and 360 games I guess now) should be. In the videos those games don't look like they really need motion controls anyways =/ idk its different I will give them that

hrabbit

Looks kind of phallic to me.

GeorgeSears

This is like watching an episode of the Twilight zone...you know the one, where in the year 2000 microsoft joined forces with nintendo.

BR4DL3I9H

@Impster:

At least it isn't named like one.

Z-inator

Looks interesting. Lets see the result... :) Maybe needs some better re-design. But the concept is nice. And its without bars, great. :)

Gambly

Thats the nintendo Dpad.

ManjiKengo

It does this, according to the company, without the use of the IR receiver that the Wii uses.
Would that, perhaps, be because it doesn't have an IR camera on the controller?

Anyway, it doesn't look any better than the Wiimote. The second controller is a good idea, but it'll take a hell of a lot more than that to even dent the Wii's market - even more so for a third-party company.

Blah8

Looks like the old prototype XBox motion control want doesn't it?

I keep saying it needs a sensor bar though. Maybe even something like a good digital compass. Inertia alone is not enough though.

fuchikoma

I still perfer standard gameplay with a regular controller. I don't enjoy using the wii-mote that much so I am not looking forward to any possible motion controller for the 360.

Xcite79

@Primebuster:
I believe Sony's attempt at the piss-poor world of motion sensing was the piss poor sixaxis controller.

Guerrilla Mason

looks like a vibrator for FF (not final fantasy) action

shichi

Funny how some of these "posters" are not "readers".

vizruy1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. OMG They copied Nintendo by the letter.

IntelSilver

thats way too confusing. "casual" gamers would be scared off by the awkward design.

JayUnreal

From what I can see so far its hard to say its more accurate than the Wiimote. On some of the games Lego Star Wars and Harry Potter it seems just basic gesture mappings so for me it's the same gripe I had with Zelda and several other games the motions are not a one to one its just a button press mapped to a gesture but I guess its about using your imagination. The golf seemed to be a pretty good adaptation. And to be fair they are probably just using so mapping application to make these work in those games, otherwise they are getting help from developers and if that is the case it may have some hope.

I'm don't think this can survive though with out some actual third party and Microsoft support. I think that was the bane of past motion devices like the Powerglove, U Force, and Interactor or even the Freestyle. Well that and some of the designs were flawed.

One other concern I have is that this may actually be too complicated it may go against what Nintendo has done. They talk about doing this trigger for this and this for that I may be over thinking it and maybe its simple but I don't think Waggle for the hardcore can see the same success Nintendo has. I mean look at the more traditional games the Wii has that appeal to the hardcore gamers and many of them are now including Gamecube controller support. But this could be a good thing for shooter fans I think the WiiMote does good for that control scheme and a mouse and keyboard is not super couch friendly.

Konchu

@kubevubin: for a shitty port? man, you have low standards.

thejakeman: visit my site!

If it gets official MS support and will have lots of game support on it (especially FPS), I may have a Wii for sale in future.

Jestersage

no interest from me.

DeaconBlade

got the perfect game for it, Masturbator 5000 pleasure only the 360 can give you. coming soon to XBLA.

Milkzhakes

It's color scheme matches the 360, but they say its PS3-OK. So, I just don't understand things anymore. I don't see developers making a game for a third party peripheral that no one knows how well it will sell. So...will this even matter, ever? I'm still waiting to see if Microsoft has a real motion controller. I'd rather they didn't.

@furiku: "Give me attention!"

karasu is my homeboy

@furiku: You're joking, right?

chronubis

there's pretty bad lag time between the motion and the response from the game.

chenry

Mario Kart is pretty cool. All those that say motion wheel sucks really means they suck at it and can't play it.

VakeroRokero

This is the reason that the Wii collects dust, its only cool for a week then you get sick of swinging a controller around. what are the trying to pull

IvoryMelotron

Can't Nintendo file a lawsuit or something? I mean, the Wii is built entirely around the fact that it uses a motion controller, and these guys are essentially taking the Wiimote, making one or two modifications, and whoring it out to the highest bidder.

I'd say that if they don't persue some kind of legal action, this could be kinda disastrous for Nintendo.

TheLoudCowboy

wasn't it rumored that Sony had a motion controller that broke apart.. What if this is Sony teasing, and not MS?

Jutah_F8

I'm guess this AMAZING STORY (haha) was leaked from a hobo redneck who just wanted to beat off with his controller while playing a playboy game that dosen't exist

Curb_Smackage

@genbeef: whoops, mistake again. i didn't mean to quote cockroachman.

genbeef

@CockroachMan: my mistake, i didn't read the part where it said analogue part. also i cant see the vids cause it's blocked by work. also the ontario government internet sucks for blocking stuff

genbeef

without an analogue stick to compliment it, it'll be a failure. imagine having to move your character with a D-pad :\. holds like a lightsabre, but'll probabally be a detachable vibrator

genbeef

@Al3xandr0s: wow, is it that hard to use a scroll bar?

zakky venom

that looks...........very suggestive

chaos_isnt_here

Yay, a 3rd party novelty controller. Ouch, welcome to failure.

RawSteelUT

@ShaggE: I read the article, and I watched the videos, and I think their product is bullshit.

HT Tenrai

Has to be boxed in with future 360s for it to have a remote chance of being successful.

M

it would be nice to see them get this working for Halo 3.

AryzonaBay

He is faking it. That still looks like a wii controller attach to the nunchuck.

zkotaku

I don't mean to be rude, but som eof this story is wrong.

I wen to their website months ago, about when thier controller first showed, and watched all of these videos. They deffinately didn't unviel it this morning. They also said many months ago that this was on its way to developers. Thi sis probably just some third party product that has nothing to do with 360 or PS3.

And as far as "may work with PS3," the site said that it was compatibile, months ago, with 360 and PS3. So unless they changed that to be more vague, I think that line was a little sensationalist.

All those videos are old and none of this isn't information that hasn't been on their site for months now.

thefoxtrot

Nice...but no pointer. I really like the pointer aspect for shooters. That aside, I do wish the wiimote was more accurate in terms of 3d motion tracking. Next gen...maybe then.

JokesJokes

I hope everyone here bashing this controller equally bashes Nintendo's counterpart. I'm not terribly excited about this personally, but this only enforces an early prediction I had during the early stages of this nextgen console war. If both the PS3 and the 360 get this peripheral in their grasp what else does Nintendo have to separate itself from the rest of its competition? 1st party titles and a low cost, but with the PS3 and 360 gradually dropping in price and the fact that Nintendo still cannot meet demand consumers are finding it easier and easier to give the 360 and PS3 a try.

All I'm saying is that Nintendo fanboys will no longer be able to carry around the word's like "unique" and "innovation" like a flag and wave it into Sony and M$'s face anymore.

A gimmick only works for so long Nintendo.

TheGamesta

@TheGamesta:

Sooo... you're saying that nintendo domination is over as soon as this baby comes out?! HELL WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR!?

Oh wait. That's right, it's called that gimmick of a controller isn't the standard controller. Meaning you're all gonna be using the 360 and PS3 controllers and the devs are gonna be supporting those. If you know anything about the industry the HARDWARE drives the SOFTWARE, NOT the peripherals.

Until you see something like at least 20 % market penetration of the eyetoy or whatever M$' version of it is you will NOT see anything worth gloating over with this. Similarly you don't have over 20% intergration of games with the racing wheels nor joysticks. In fact the closest that peripherals have come to that level of integration was... probably the balance board, but then again nintendo is the exception ^^. (and if you are unsure, i mean that 20% of the software created is for this peripheral alone)

Secondly you scream the fact that the gimmick only works for so long. You are too much of a fanboy to even be allowed to speak really. It's not a gimmick for one, as gimmicks are tacked on to be "cooL" and "unique" but are strictly ADD ONS. Point and fact, the wiimote is a core functionality of the Wii. It was well thought out, and well executed, the Wii does not work without the Wiimote and vice versa. Gimmicks are tacked on to add a special feature for the sake of having a special feature... therein giving the title gimmick to "eyetoy, balance board, darwin remote + 360, ps3 cotnroller's motion control," and all that other good stuff out there is moreso a gimmick than the wiimote's doings.

And lastly, I am actually glad that people are making such a huge fuss over the wii's motion sensors. It makes people and companies that are too caught up over a "professed" gimmick attempt to rag on it and copy it.. to much failure.

You see, the charm of the wiimote lies in the integration of everything it does... and not just the motion sensing (though I certainly believe they should've either ripped that speaker out or put a decent one in ><). pointing, sensing, and reacting. It is 100% built to move and be moved by the user. Which might be something you might never understand, oh well, not much of a loss if you ask me.

pyropetey

Looks totally fake .

Nexus6

Hey look, I can replace pushing A with waggling left. Thats not evolution at all, its just a pathetic gimmick. Though its the same problem with 99% of Wii games. I think the only game that has used motion controls to enhance gameplay by doing something that traditional controls can't is Wario Ware Smooth Moves.

jbiller

@pyropetey:

"If you know anything about the industry the HARDWARE drives the SOFTWARE"

Riiiight, that's exactly why the Wii is such a success. I didn't past this sentence, so the rest of your wall went unread.

TheGamesta

I would only buy it if it works with PS3 and works with every single game that has come out or will come out for it. If not then this is worthless.

lenandude

I don't think M$ would be dumb enough to introduce a motion controller this late into the life cycle. Casual gamers aren't goign to m$ because of lack of motion control they arent going cause they dont want to play gears of war. Its a software not a hardware problem. The 360 is the hardcore machine. Trying to change who you are at this stage is just sad. Thinking that you'll Nintendo Nintendo is just sadder.

cheswick

No longer are people pigeon-holing Wii controls to a place they don't need to be, they're not pigeon-holing them onto ENTIRE OTHER CONSOLES.

Talleh

Man, I hope the same guys who sued Nintendo sues Microsoft over this.

DRaGZ

Seems too laggy.
Could be solved though, depending on how the HUGE SPLITTING DILDO works.
I wonder how long would it take though, for Nintendo to sue their asses....

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

[url=http://www.motusgames.com/presspictures/darwin%20black_p3.jpg]This image[/url] seems to indicate that their is a ps3 version. Note the black button with a blue X on it. While the white controller (360) has a Green A on it. I'd say they are using a ps3 in these videos.

RaepGoblin

@TheGamesta: In the terms I was speaking it does drive the software.

Perhaps I should make it more clear. The primary devices of input and output are what drives the software.

Example? PC games are more oriented towards RTS, FPS, and point and click adventures... we have those. Attempts to really make a platformer for the PC fail

Before you sound like you are such a big shot, try reading instead of grasping at meagre comments and taking them out of their context.. it really doesnt help ;D. Of course I fully admit I could be clearer, but that's why this reply is here isn't it.

Its ok tho, I don't believe you'll get a change of heart just because I told you otherwise. It takes a fanboy to negate all facts and all relevance doesn't it? Not that you are one ^^

pyropetey

I would argue that software actually drives the hardware in terms of console success. But that's a completely different discussion.

You're basically trying to convince me that the Wii-mote is not a gimmick?

Failing fanboy is fail I'm afraid.

You said it yourself that the Wii-mote is the core of the Wii. That, in turn, is Nintendo's biggest weakness. It's not hard to emulate and improve on what nintendo created. So what happens when Nintendo's competitors offer the same "innovation" the wii-mote has with their respective system? For the record, I would bet that a motion controller such as this would indeed fail on both systems, but whether its a success or not is besides the point.

Sure the Wii-mote does what it does well enough, but I'd argue that wasn't executed as best as it could've been, but that's just my opinion. And I see what your saying with the PC analogy too. However given the Wii's lack of... well... anything "nextgen" its hard to ignore the Wii-mote's gimmicky appeal. A gimmick isn't limited to being just an "add-on." It's used as a means of differentiate a product from the pack in order to garner more attention to increase sales. It was a perfect selling point for many - that much is undeniable. So in my eyes it'll forever be a gimmick. I mean honestly, with all the games available for the Wii that force wii-mote actions on the player, you can sit back with utmost confidence and tell me all those games are THAT much more "driving" because of such cumpulsory gameplay?

TheGamesta