I'm not sure how many of you read the posts on the link but holy shit. I've never read funnier fanboy's posts than there. I get Sony has some games coming out but who wants to wait until 2010. I want to play right now.

DazeOfWar

Also, any chance we can all avoid the grand old 'I'll list a bunch of exclusive games so I can show off my fanboydom/break down other peoples lists as shitty' arguments? They really do nothing but make a lot of a mess and achieve little. Except maybe score points on that Fanboy Bingo game.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

Is anyone really going to argue with this? It's been pretty obvious for a long time that Sony was bringing the best exclusives.

What's microsoft got? halo, gears of war, and viva pinata? Though at least fable 2 might not suck like the original.

Nintendo's got an underwhelming Zelda, an underwhelming Mario (too easy, exploration isn't fun enough, spring suit), and no one seems to care about 3D Metroid anymore. And that's the stuff that doesn't suck outright. I'd never count out Nintendo for bringing the top shelf exclusives in the future, but they've failed to deliver so far with Wii and they've shown nothing for the future.

stfufools

@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: Fire Emblem on wii is a joke...not because it's a bad game but because it's clearly a gamecube effort that was released on Wii to fatten the library and it shows.

I wasn't aware that, in order to be considered a "good first party game" it had to use all the features of the console. I guess that makes any game that doesn't use motion controls on the PS3 "not count"? Or any single player game on the 360 that doesn't use LIVE?

As for the rant about Nintendo's traditions - I don't get it. What happened when Snake was replaced by Raiden? What happened when Fallout 3 was announced as being developed in the style of Oblivion instead of a proper RPG? What happened when Final Fantasy XII went to a real-time combat system? What happened when Vader and Yoda were announced for Soul Calibur IV?

People expect sequels to be familiar and same-y. I don't care that we're still fighting Metroids, or that Peach still hasn't learned to lock her door, or that the Triforce has been reunited a dozen times. The kidnappings are all MacGuffins and the bad guys are all Foozles. And I don't care, because I'm having fun.

Nintendo makes games, and then wraps a story around it. Most other companies make stories, and then wrap games around it (notable exceptions: Valve, Bioware, Rare in its heyday).

And I'll take Link's Crossbow Training off my list when the PS3 lovers take Afrika off theirs.

baberg

I'm sorry, but there is no longer a single reason for myself to ever buy another PS3.

I sold my UK 60gb there after playing through MGS4 and the news regarding Final Fantasy 13. I know some serious fanboys are going to hammer my post for saying this... but I am perfectly sure I'll never regret selling it. There is not ONE title, in announced production that I can honestly say I want that is PS3 exclusive.

Whereas, there are around 14 for the wii, and maybe 10 for the 360 that I consider myself super hyped for.

When I hear Kaz Hirai spouting his junk about how Sony have the best lineup of exclusives, I think he really needs to stop pretending that this is 2003. They don't have what they had.

I love my PS2. It's got gobs of great games I can only play on it. I love my PSP, I take it everywhere, and use it to it's full capability (music, movies, comics, homebrew, emulation). My PS3 though was just a horrible big monstrosity to me that wasted space, and standby power. THE EXACT feelings I had for my original xbox. I'm not bothered though. I got back what I paid for my console. So no hard feelings, Sony.

I'll buy one again when it's so different from the xbox 360 that I need to have one.

And ohyeah. original point and such... Shutup kaz. It's just not funny or cool anymore. It's sad watching a company flounder.

squishyfishy

@formina: Agreed.

You can't cry foul at one company and not call out others in the same breath. How many Halos do you think we'll see in the short span of two console generations? 4? Let me know when Gran Turismo 5 or 6 decides to implement car damage while you're at it. Every company is guilty of this, it just seems like Nintendo's been doing it longer because they've been around longer.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

I don't know why there are so many ridiculous comments denying that the PS3 has the best exclusives because it does; And all you would have to do is look those games up and make a list. But of course, those that are blinded by fanboyism would never have enough time to do that.......so let me help you out here:

Besides the obvious exclusives already listed by Kaz, there is:

-Socom
-Heavy Rain
-L.A Noire
-Motorstorm
-Killzone 2
-Infamous
-MGS4
-Uncharted
-Ratchet & Clank
-Gran Turismo
-White Knight Chronicles
-Folklore
-Heavenly Sword
-Tekken 6
-Warhawk
-Untitled PS3 exclusive by Rockstar games
-Team ICO project
-FF13 Versus

LeLoi

Fable 2 is the only exclusive that I am interested in on either console for a good long time. Mediocre shooters and JRPGs are not really my thing.

Muisee

@formina: Have you even played MGS4? For like, a second? I don't recall smell, being able to hide in the day, or having the option to go Rambo a part of MGS before. Funny you mention SC since most people agree that MGS4 is the least "stealth" of the series. With 70 upgradable (with up to 5 attachments) weapon I can't really see the connection to SC. And don't even get me started on MGO.

FP_slomo788

@formina: "Tell me of these games that aren't the same stuff I've been playing for several years now, and then I won't see your opinion as a steaming pot of crap."

Long story short...
Varying degrees of generality :p

Aex

@skyoon: - "90% of these comments: Beating a dead horse. Get over it people. You're acting just as badly as Kaz is. You get the console which has the exclusives you like. Simple as that."

There will always be fanboys that will rave about their favorite console, and how is OWNZ all others. Me, I own all 3 current gen consoles ... so I could give a crap about console boasting (dick waving). All 3 consoles have great exclusives ... why can't we just leave it at that?

dead_red_eyes

@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: "But Mario Galaxy is a perfect example of the problem with Nintendo's first party develop with older franchises... it's all shit we've played before over and over and over again."

I laughed a lot reading your thoughts. So remind me how MGS4 isn't the same stuff we've played the last two generations (and watched). Why, all they did was take the stuff Splinter Cell showed could work and implemented with Snake's mechanics. Sure, MGS4 is a great game, but by your reasoning with other games, it's the same old and definitely not worth it.

Tell me of these games that aren't the same stuff I've been playing for several years now, and then I won't see your opinion as a steaming pot of crap.

formina

@papero3: Well in all fairness, An exclusive going multiplat doesn't invalidate his statements :P It just lessens the amount of exclusives they have to include in his statement.

Aex

What good exclusives? I see A good exclusive.

KM91

@papero3: "Reggie, i just hate this guy"

Beautiful, concise, and to the point. We need more comments like this.

skyoon

@ryuart: Yeah... Shooters like... LBP... *snort*

bobtheduck

There are only two games to come out of SCE that I ever gave a damn about. They're both about a boy and a girl, and you either hold hands or kill collosi.

Everything else ranges from "okay" to "trite."

Xiedo

Kaz, saying this after losing FF13(and 2342 other exclusives)

Don, sayng 360 will outsell ps3, when the 360 is struggling with the ps3 in the US, in PAL is getting his ass kicked, and japan... its japan

Reggie, i just hate the guy

They are all full of shit.

papero3

Ah yes, the power of Blu-ray. And the resulting load times and hard drive installs.

hagridore

@Ehardergardens: Aparently, Viva Pinata has a PC port...

Aex

@Hulkamaniac: And how would know this? can you play the game while you sleep?

Geoff900

@baberg: whoaa there gamer dude...Fire Emblem on wii is a joke...not because it's a bad game but because it's clearly a gamecube effort that was released on Wii to fatten the library and it shows. It offers NONE of the advanced features of the console.

Twilight Princess is Ocarina of Time 2. It shared so much with the original effort that it just can't be given as high a place as Ocarina. Not to mention that Twilight Princess also started as a GC effort and it shows, not using any of the advanced graphics features of the Wii.

Link's Crossbow Training? uh....are you serious? Not exactly what I'd call a killer app.

Mario Galaxy is truly a great next gen effort but personally, i got bored with it. I've finished entirely too many save-the-princes/ collect-a-thons to care enough to finish Galaxy. I may go back to it later though after I have absolutely nothing else to play...if that day ever comes.

But Mario Galaxy is a perfect example of the problem with Nintendo's first party develop with older franchises...

it's all shit we've played before over and over and over again. Sure Mario Kart Wii is still fun but damn if we didn't play almost the exact same game on DS and GC and N64. Metroid Prime 3 was flat out awesome...I loved it until I got to the anti-climatic ending. why am I running through the Pirate homeworld...after I set off all kinds of alarms and there isn't legions of those bastard hunting me down? Bad design decision there and that's just one example. No multiplayer or at least a MP Hunters for Wii at a later date is such a huge blunder on Nintendo's part it's laughable. How do you make a FPS control scheme that is better than any dual analog setup and NOT support deathmatch/team deathmatch? but Nintendo stills loves the core gamer...right...whatever.

My point is Nintendo isn't evolving their franchises. Twilight Princess would have been kick ass if Zant was a totally independent, powerful as hell bad guy NOT associated with Ganondorf. Develop a new enemy for crying out loud. Why is Metroid still called Metroid if almost the entire race of creatures are one the verge of extinction? Samus is a bounty hunter. Can we move on? We've been fighting Metroids in some way or form since the 80's. Give us a new bounty.
Nintendo has been giving us too much of the same to give them the same credit as Nintendo of the NES/SNES era.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@Gutek: Some thing alot of people seem to forget, MS have to platforms, which means more choice to you, I would rather see games on both Xbox 360 and PC because it give you choice rather than saying oh no you have to buy a PS3, or Xbox 360.

Also adding, weren't RE, FF, Devil May Cry considered PlayStation exclusives? Hmmm...

Geoff900

@Aex: Coming to DS yes?

Ehardergardens

@iNime: arg, exclusives in the sense of first party... as for the most part, as the majority of the exclusives are first party.

iNime

User created content is great, sure.

But alllllll you folks in this thread need to accept that the ability to do user created content for LBP will do next to NOTHING for game sales.

DIY content is really, really niche. Sure it's cute, a neat feature. But 99% of folks to buy the game will largely not bother.

But yes, if we're polling gaming blog commenters then the user created content will have units flying off the shelves. But realize your probably 1% of the game buying popoulation.

See the forest for the trees folks. I don't know precisely what that means, but I feel like it's appropriate.

Markez

I will never understand the people getting off over LittleBigPlanet.

Jesus. Desperate much?

Nyright

I mean, Duh, PS3 exclusives are for the most part equal to all others if not better in terms of quality, diversity, uniqueness, and willingness to push the envelope. If you can put up some concrete evidence where the other guys have exclusives that are more fitting of those qualities, please do share.

It would be a nice read so people can have a real discussion and not fanboy rants.

iNime

People need to separate what he said from what the title of the article is. What he said isn't that they have the best exclusives. What he said is that they have the best 1st party developers. Gears of War isn't first party. Most of the best 360 exclusives aren't (especially if you count Bungie as a second-party developer as they now are). The only people who can step to Sony as far as 1st party developers are Nintendo. And then you get into a whole casual/hardcore debate that has been had ad-nauseam.

hodayathink: I like neo-noir lesbians

This is just Kaz shooting off his opinion again. His corporately sponsored opinion, of course, but his opinion nonetheless. Really, the only argument here is about what games people like and which console has the best exclusive games coming out for it... which sounds like the same argument that consumers have argued over since the advent of multiple consoles from different companies.

Personally, I do like the selection of games set to be available for the PS3 more so than the ones available for 360, but there's definitely games I'd like to own on both platforms. I plan on buying all three of the major exclusives Kaz mentioned (LBP, R2, GoW3), but I'd also like to play Gears of War 2, Forza 3, and try out Halo Wars.
I don't know; it just seems like all this topic is about is an exec stating his opinion in support of his company's console and fueling a flame war in the process. Boring, everyday stuff from my view.

Blah8

have to admit, God of War 3 will be the best exclusive when its out. (hides from the 360 fanboys, ready to be attacked)

Hulkamaniac

@CMac1988: Haha thanks :)

Also, to add onto my last post, the point that I was trying to drive home (again) is that favoritism to exclusives is subjective. A game might be great, but it just may not be my cup of tea.

skyoon

@Gutek: Wow, I didn't know that.

Aex

@FunKrusher: Though I respect your opinion, it is mine that Nintendo hasn't created any new memorable franchises since the early 90's. Yeah, Mario's cool, but do something new besides Nintendogs and Wiisports, for chrissakes.

Don't get me wrong, I immensely enjoyed Twilight Princess and Galaxy on my Wii (Brawl, not so much), but my favorite games for my Wii are still No More Heroes and RE4.

skyoon

@skyoon: My personal favorite?-Shalashaska-'s brilliant pile of mouth-feces. You can almost hear the snooty French or whatever accent behind the words.

Lol, tht made my night... :D
Very true indeed!

CMac1988

Dude's smoking and while I respec everyone opinion (here it comes0

NINTENDO HAS THE BEST 1st party/and/or exclusives period.

Ninty's got certifiable ICONS up there with Micheal Jordan, Mickey Mouse, and Tiger Woods. Seriously I mean I know the elite, hardcore gamers prefer Kratos to Mario, or Ico to Link, or whatever to Metroid, or Tekken To Smash Bros. and on and on and on.

But for real, outside of the opinions, blind fanboy hate, and nonsensical statemtns, let's do a hypothetical. Take all the multiplat games away and list what each system has in terms of exclusives content. And let's see who would come out on top?

I'll give you the short easy answer Nintendo, Nintendo again, and last but not least Nintendo.

But after all this is just my opinion, soooooooo take it how you will.

FunKrusher

Sony's always touting how awesome Blu-Ray is for gaming, but every new PS3 game I buy requires a 2-5gb install before I can even start the fucking game.

Somehow that ancient DVD technology let's developers stream their games directly from the disc (apparently good enough for Nintendo and Microsoft).

Brendar

@FP_slomo788: HAHA...yeah we SURELY have seen that in every other shooter ever made. Great post.

@Astrofox: it's a shame because Resistance is one of the best launch titles ever made and it was exclusive (ie: not a port) Definite killer app but so many people ignored it because of the anti-ps3 dogma of the day. Multiplayer is an absolute blast and I spent months playing it. I look forward to R2. Agree with you on that score. Team Deathmatch in the busyard was always good for kicks

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@Aex:

viva pinata is not exclusive. it's pc/360.

Gutek

@Foxstar Sixtail: Most of the Xbox 360 exclusives you posted aren't exclusive or at least won't be for long. E.g. Star Ocean 4 is extremely iffy, Mass Effect is already on the PC, and Last Remnant is coming to PS3

While I have an extreme amount of love for Viva Pinata, I don't think it'll be better than the PS3's casual offering of LBP.

Personally, I don't know how Halo Wars will turn out, I personally don't think RTS ever turns out well on consoles... but Bungie has a way of doing things spectacularly, so I'm looking forward to it as well, better than the announced PS3 exclusives, I don't know, we'll have to wait for some more info to come out there... Not a given it'll be great like Halo since it varies so much from the original formula, where as GoW3 is expected to be a given since it'll be more of the same.

Aex

Or other great exclusives like MGS4! The only game I've ever fallen asleep "playing" (twice)!

Brendar

@Gravnar: you can pretty say that for any game. There's no gurantee until you play it. I personally didn't think Bioshock wasn't going to be that good until I buckled down and played the game. I might've had some assumptions based on previews and impressions and what not but until we as gamers play the game, we can't make that determination.

The opposite holds true. GTA4 and Halo3 wasn't the mecca of gaming as others claim it to be (I.e, the media). It wasn't bad but it wasn't all that great either. But hey, that's just me, but at least I made that determination myself.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

@TurinTurambar:

since gears of war 2 and fable 2 aren't released yet either, the comparison i made seems kind of fair, don't you think?

other than that, i don't recall any xbox 360 exclusive that could compete with metal gear solid 4. hands down.

now, the future looks brighter on the sony side. there's no denying it.

Gutek

@baberg: You forgot Wii Music ;) And TP isn't a Wii exclusive.

FP_slomo788

Obviously he thinks that.

To bad it's something based on opinion and not fact.

karasu is my homeboy

Psst, we all know Intelligent Systems is the greatest developer out there. Nothing at Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, or other publishers can hold a candle to everything Intelligent Systems has churned out for Nintendo over the years.

formina

90% of these comments: Beating a dead horse.

Get over it people. You're acting just as badly as Kaz is. You get the console which has the exclusives you like. Simple as that. Gosh, I read the absolute retardation that are the comments on MCV and expect the Kotaku people to do better. Well, you guys at least have a good grasp on the English language, but yeah.

My personal favorite?-Shalashaska-'s brilliant pile of mouth-feces. You can almost hear the snooty French or whatever accent behind the words.

skyoon

Wii Sports
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Twilight Princess
Mario Kart Wii
Super Paper Mario
WarioWare
Link's Crossbow Training
Metroid Prime 3
Zack and Wiki
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Harvest Moon

I'd say that's a pretty strong list right there.

baberg

@LittleBigPlaneteer: I hate most of the series in the sony one... Sony may have more exclusives but there is no guarantee they are good.

Gravnar

@Gutek: Considering none of those have been released yet, you need to check your enthusiasm just abit. I think Assassin's Creed has taught us all a lesson in praising a game a bit too much before it's release.

TurinTurambar

@Insomnia Bob: Genji, Haze and Lair are the only PS3 exclusives I can remember that "sucked." And even Lair is debatable now with the new patch.

FP_slomo788

@ryuart: okay you do know that MAG is made by zipper and there was a report that is the unoffical sequel to SOCOM series, which is a system seller. Resistance sold like 3 million. Yea, it was a launch title but there is a hype surronding the sequel. And with hype, apparently even "shit" can sell. I'm not saying R2 will be shit (I think it will be faboulous 8 player co-op 60 player match FTW!!), but I don't think we can say it's not going to push system until it's on the shelf. Now for Little Big planet...who knows, if it's going to move systems. I think it will. Don't be surprised if it becomes a hit in that "all important" casual market Nintendo seem to have a lock on.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

@Foxstar Sixtail: you fail because you did not mention MGS4.

seriouly, most 360 AAA titles are also available for PC; thus not very exclusive

the_answer

I think Kaz is correct. The PS3 has a great lineup of exclusive games. It's just too bad many people don't focus solely on the number of great games, instead they focus on one or two great games. Take the 360, Halo and Gears are basically the big drivers. It doesn't matter what the other exclusives are. With the PS3, there are a number of great exclusives, but non of them are as big as Halo and Gears. Also, people are looking for more than just the games.

darknessgp

Oh and about FF13, i don't know how many xbox only gamers are gonna play it, but personally i think its probably a good thing that its out on both systems. Assuming that its a good game. I didn't like 12 as much as the the older ones (9 is still by far the best in my opinion)

FreakyFavabean

@ryuart:

Pssstt...

LittleBigPlanet isn't a shooter. Nor is it strictly a platformer. It's completely different from anything, yet similar enough from other genres to make it accessible.

If marketed correctly, it very well COULD be a system seller.

PapaBear434

His choice of words amuse me.

EmeraldDragon

In other news, Kaz Hirai has recently declared the Earth is flat, and that he is "the Highlander", and immortal Scotsman.

Look... Kaz, buddy. God of War III will be nice, I'm sure. Resistance will probably be great, too. But even assuming both are groundbreaking, AAA titles, your platform is still lagging well behind the 360 in the 'exclusives that don't suck' arena. And people are catching on to the fact that Sony wants to sell them a future that may not materialize as advertised.

Shut your fucking god. You're hurting your brand.

Insomnia Bob

and by the way: when the new team ico game hits, the industry will crumble.

Gutek

@bobtheduck: He said "the console with FF as an exclusive always wins." Of course that's not necessarily true but I felt like getting trolled.

FP_slomo788

I should correct myself. Resistance 2 comes out soon, so barring any delays they'll have the FPS market's #1 spot (if it lives up to the original and their promises for the sequel, anyway.)

PapaBear434

@FP_slomo788: and PS3 still has FFXIII, yes I've heard that before... Vs isn't the same... It's more like x-2 at the worst or Crisis Core at best. And expecting it to be like CC might be setting us up for a massive disappointment...

MS is winning in the RPG department because they bought Mistwalker, they paid for SO4 and IU exclusivity, and they've managed to get the first crack at all the other current Gen RPGs except White Knight Story, which Sony is funding and is a joint effort between Japan Team (sony) and Level 5...

I hope Sony has some bombs to drop in that regard at TGS. I'm not counting on it...

As for their first party games, I will say Ratchet and Uncharted beat the vast majority of First party games on the 360... Ratchet is the pixar movie in a game, Uncharted has animation that hasn't been matched in anything to date... Not Crysis, not MGS4, not Gears, not anything... They're both FUN games, too, with lots to collect and unlock, in addition to being impressive. The only problem is the opposition has Mistwalker...

bobtheduck

@ryuart: LBP is not a shooter.

FP_slomo788

Yep, i think i'd have to agree with him at the moment. The PS3 has lots of great games coming out, and Metal Gear Solid 4 is amazing, in case you haven't heard about it. The only xbox exclusive games that i'm really interested in right now are Gears 2 and Fable 2. There are others that look pretty good though. And in terms of actual games, i don't think the wii is much competition right now. And that e3 press conference didn't help. I just hope they announce a new Mario or Zelda soon.

FreakyFavabean

Its funny how little those titles will actually sell compared to the competition. They are not system sellers. MAG, Resistance2, littleBigplanet are NOT a system sellers.

Keep focusing on shooters Sony and you'll still be in 3rd place.

ryuart

@PixelRambo: :( I said that GoW3 wasn't ever likely to win the award as best PS3 game with the pre-rendered trailer. Not Fallout 3...heck I think Fallout 3 never had a pre-rendered trailer.

I'd also say you are the one downplaying the biggest part of LBP by saying that the ability to create new stuff is inconsequential to the product

I never implied that, no. My point was that even if LBP wouldn't have the custom content features, IF, it would still be more than a polished platformer. How is that downplaying? It's just a "what-if" answer.

Now please can I have my leg and arm back? -_-

Candlejack

@Astrofox: see...now that's a comment I can standby. MS has never impressed me with first party development....never. Nintendo used to be THE definition of damn near perfect 1st party development that exploited hardware to do things many thought impossible.

But Wii has left a sour after taste at this point in the era. I'm not sure if Nintendo can make the same impact as they have in the past. But from a business/profit perspective...Nintendo is king. Period. MS can't touch what Nintendo has done with Wii and neither can Sony with the Ps3 (ps2 is a different story)

Sony on the other hand realized first party development and strong second party support would be key this gen. I lean towards their court because Sony is pushing that development AND providing the hardware at the same time. Nintendo definitely tries to push development (more for the casual these days "sigh") but the technology is a joke by comparison. "Should we or should we not support external HDDs...." are you kidding me? Nintendo is all fail in terms of Wii output compared to 360 and PS3.

MS...like I said, nada on the first party tip. If it ain't called Halo, who cares? Forza is still trying to be Gran Turismo...got anything else? Maybe if Rare released that one killer app, they would qualify but they haven't done it yet. MS is not the company you look to for superior first party development.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@CHU BOI: Because lately Kaz has been a douche and has found himself too often in front of journalists. The real question is, WHEN THE FUCK IS PHIL COMING BACK??

FP_slomo788

he's right.

besides gears of war 2 (which will probably see a pc port soon) and fable 2 (which will probably see a pc port soon) there's nothing that is remotely interesting on the 360. the playstation on the other hand has infamous, resistance 2, killzone 2, next uncharted, heavy rain (!!!), little big planet, mag, wipeout hd, motorstorm 2, final fantasy versus XIII, valkyria chronicles and many more (new socom, ratchet & clank: quest for booty...)

Gutek

@TurinTurambar: Hmm, that number of good exclusives would have to be two, I believe. You probably have MGS 4 in mind, but Uncharted was excellent, too.

AcidCrownie

Looking at some of these games, I would agree with him. WOULD, of course, if I ever got to play them.

Still waiting on LBP, Killzone 2, Home...

PapaBear434

Ugh, why does every post dealing with Sony exclusives in any way result in Listwarz?!!!

*clenches fists*

WHYYYYYYYY?!!!!!!!

CHU BOI

I aint gonna get sucked in2 all this consolewars, and fanboyism. But as an owner of all 3 consoles, and an overly expensive PC, i find myself only really 2 games at the moment.

1 being MGO, and the other football manager 08. As gd as those exclusives tht Kaz mentions may be, it aint really sensible to gloat about them when all 3 , are still unreleased and in development.

Personally, i think the best PS3 exclusive right now, is without a doubt Metal Gear. Problem with the 360's exclusives, is that they are more than likely to be released 4 the PC if not at the same time then somewhere down the line. Gears and Mass effect are a couple of the 360's best exclusives but are alot better on the PC, as they have all had extended development and look and play better with more features etc.

My Wii on the other hand is only gd wen a few m8s r round and im pished. Problem with tht though is i still only find tht Wii sports is the only thing its useful 4.

CMac1988

@Foxstar Sixtail: I said truely exclusive my friend. PC is also a platform.

Also, The Last Remnant is multiplatform (PS3 and 360, and probably PC although I'm not sure).

ƒox

@Candlejack: You must have been watching some 2007 stuff since you only remember a pre-rendered trailer.

I also find it weird that you lambast Fallout 3 for [supposedly] to have a pre-rendered trailer and then want iterate how fkn awesome God of War 3 when they had nothing more than a pre-rendered trailer on the table during E3?

Hell, if you want to go into pre-rendered trailer bashing territory I can list a few that had their first debut through such a trailer:
Killzone 2
God of War 3
MAG
Gears of War 2

I'd also say you are the one downplaying the biggest part of LBP by saying that the ability to create new stuff is inconsequential to the product. That's like saying Photoshop would still be great even though you can't use the photo manipulation tools.

Also, a final remember: Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft does not love you more or less if act as their pr champion. In fact, I think they don't give a damn as they just want your money.

PixelRambo

@Mundus: "...always have and probably always will. Only other company that even come close was Sega during the Mega Drive era. Mario, Zelda, Metroid > everything Sony has ever done for themselfs..."

i wouldn't necessarily say that. you can't predict the future and say it will probably never have the best first party games. Currently right now, SONY has some pretty damn good exclusives regarding thier internal studios. And that's not counting whatever team ICO is going to put out.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

@Candlejack: True, true as always Candlejack.

CHU BOI

@DigitalVirus: Have you played Resistance? It's actually quite good, and amazing for a launch title.

It would probably have a bigger following on 360 actually.

Astrofox

@chimp_o_death:

I know. I just think focusing on my name is silly when I'm simply asking everyone whether they thought Kaz was really right or wrong. I gave my opinion and I expect others to reply and give theres. Sadly people focus on my ID rather than providing their input. Giving responses like "hahahahha" or "Good one Sony!" is hardly indicative of a mature analysis to this.

As stated, there is absolutely no objective way to say who has the best exclusive lineup. For instnace If you're into JRPG's then the 360 has the best lineup. I personally think the PS3 lineup has more variety and as a God of War fan (and obviously a LBP fan) I prefer it.

LittleBigPlaneteer

@DigitalVirus: ... just another shooter whose sequel will have 2 storylines, 8 player co-op online and 60 players competitive and a fucking 300 foot-tall boss.

FP_slomo788

@DigitalVirus: Resistance 1? Likely. Resistance 2? Haha. Not really.

Seriously there isn't even a shooter on PC that has a separate, 8 player online, co-op campaign. Take the games for what they offer for once, not for what they stand for.

Candlejack

I'm a big Sony fan and don't even own a Wii but I'm pretty sure, just based on historical context, Super Mario, Legend of Zelda, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros. all outclass them.

Then again, I'm a mega fan of: God of War, Shadow of the Colossus, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted.

Then Microsoft has: Halo, Gears of War and uh, well, most things are multi plat.

I think it all comes down to personal preference or whatever is your thing. If you're a huge fan of shooters, Xbox has the best exclusives. If you're a big fan of platformers and action/adventure games, Playstation 3 is the best, and if you love those old Nintendo characters, that's your thing.

Instead of an argument arising between fans of all consoles, why not just respect what each of the owners bought their systems for.

kylo4

Can't believe i bought ps3 for mgs4 >_>

Oh well i got my xbox when it gets back from microsoft (RROD)

screenfan

"Oh hey! I played Gears of War 2 yesterday! It was a lot of fun! Then my buddy, Satoru Iwata, invited me round to have a swing at Wii Sports Resort. Another quality game!"

Oh how I wish someone would say that...

Ryumeka

"The power of Blu-Ray" is the second biggest idiotic talking point of this generation, next to Nintendo's "graphics don't matter" mantra.

KaneRobot

i love how he quotes a mediocre shooter like Resistance. I mean, sure the game is good on the PS3, but only because it is ON THE PS3.

If it was on the 360, you'd get the same fanboys praising the game saying "oh it's just another shooter on the xbox" which is true, that's what it would be on the 360- just another shooter.

DigitalVirus

@eilegz: Good thing for Kaz that FF13 Versus is PS3 exclusive then.

FP_slomo788

To be perfectly honest, Nintendo has the best first party games, always have and probably always will. Only other company that even come close was Sega during the Mega Drive era. Mario, Zelda, Metroid > everything Sony has ever done for themselfs. However 3rd parties are where this console generation is at and there, Nintendo is worst of the three companies.

Mundus

@Foxstar Sixtail:

Yes keeping your PC up to date is a pain but patches and mods make such a huge difference to games. There isn't a console game out there that couldn't benefit from a patch to fix bugs or game balance issues.

Although that said most Xbox to PC ports play like ass. Mostly due to shoddy porting on MS's part.

Synthemesc

@macr0planet: Ah, I see. Well, I tend to agree that there are a few multi platform games coming in 2008 that outshine virtually any console exclusive. But that can mean two things; exclusives in general suck this time around, or multi platform games are just that good.

Candlejack

Most of the list on the 360 i would envision coming to the PC in one time or another. Yeah, kaz has a point... but he always misses the target.

LoganForge

they lost Final Fantasy, their only BEST exclusive, Console with FF # always win the console war at least until now.

eilegz

i cant thing of a single ps3 game better than the headshot in gears of war.

SamStride

@LittleBigPlaneteer:
I don't think anyone was disparaging the quality of your comments, just perhaps pointing out that you are named after one of Kaz's exclusive games. At least LBP looks to be all kinds of awesome...I remember when my screen name used to be BruteForce4eva...

chimp_o_death

@Ninegauger: it helped keep Nintendo alive. You misunderstand. If Nintendo didn't have some of the best exclusives around they would have died like Sega did. For the record...I'm sure Nintendo would have loved to see Xenogears, or Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy VII or VIII or Gran Turismo, Tekken or any of the other great ps exclusives on 64. Nintendo had some...but not ALL of the best exclusives.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@Candlejack: Oh I understand that. But mainly it all comes down to opinion. IGN thought that Fallout 3 was the best either had, I think different. More like LBP for PS3 and GoW2 for the 360.

Just trying to make a point.

macr0planet

@CHU BOI: Yea see but now we're talking personal preference. I can understand what you mean perfectly fine. To me, because I like Star Wars, The Force Unleashed is "worth" more than LittleBigPlanet. But I thought we were talking about basic quality of games, in terms of scores.

Not liking LBP as much is one thing, but that won't stop it from receiving highest scores if the reviewers like it ;)

Candlejack

@Foxstar Sixtail: Because of the cuteness of Sack-Boy and the catchiness of the music, the customization options, the depth of the levels, the co-op mode and the overall amazing graphics, I don't think it would be a sleeper. Unless you mean that all the casual people that fell in love with it did because of the prospect of creating and sharing levels? And even IF user-created content was the only part that "saved" it, that's like saying the only thing that kept Halo 3 and Gears 2 alive is multiplayer, or Metal Gear is the story, etc etc. No matter what, I think it's a pretty amazing game and the fact that it's so original and exclusive to PS3 makes the console more attractive.

FP_slomo788

@Foxstar Sixtail:@baberg: Someone finally said it. No offense or anything, Planeteer.

@Candlejack: I'm gonna have to agree with him a little bit. LBP is awesome, no doubt, but like I've mentioned before, I'm not a DIY kinda gamer, so I doubt I'll be playing LBP. I might just buy to show support cuz I think what Media Molecule (?) is doing is a great step forward. GoW3 is great too, prolly will be epic, but then again it's just one game. And I hope they make some significant changes from the first two because although I liked them both they felt all too similar (to me) and I wasn't that excited after Pt 2 was done. Now if Kaz mentioned Kingdom Hearts 3 I would shut the eff up, eat my own words, nod my head to Kaz, and wait patiently until my Mickey Mouse and Kairi (hopefully she'll be 18 by pt 3 lolz) hard-on gets pleased lol.

CHU BOI

@Foxstar Sixtail: LBP would be right on par with Ratchet and Clank otherwise, a polished platformer but little more.

That's like, the worst description or analysis of LBP that I have ever heard. Seriously. Even without the abilities for user created content, you are downplaying LBP and flatout bashing it here.

Candlejack

LONG LIVE SONY!

kaskeon

When comparing Sony and Microsoft, Sony actually acquires 1st parties and has a huge stable of developers. Microsoft? They have structured their business in such a way that it seems they are not interested in making games, only being the middleman between gamers and third parties.

This is one reason I want Sony to stay in the game, and stay a powerful player... they are in the business of making games, not just manufacturing hardware and publishing.

Basically what I'm saying is Sony's own first party exclusives are one of their main strengths, and they should be commended for investing heavily in game development.

Oh and some of this goes for Nintendo too.

Astrofox

@RgvXavi: dude your unlucky... when my PS3 broke, someone came to my door, i switched my broken one for a nice shiny refurb and this was like 4 days after i rang them up... technically my warranty had expired too...

anyway back on topic... im most excited by GOW3

scuba2steve

@FP_slomo788:As good as LBP is shaping up to be, the point remains that without it's user created content, it would be a huge sleeper, even bigger then what it's shaping up to be now. You know this and to deny it is not taking it into account. LBP would be right on par with Ratchet and Clank otherwise, a polished platformer but little more.

@ƒox:Easy.

Viva Pinata.
Halo Wars (Unproven, but i'm sure looking forward to it)
Star Ocean 4 (Tri Ace doesn't make bad games, bloated with character developement maybe)
The Last Remnant
Mass Effect.

Short list, but I have to run, will post more later on. But so far, the only titles that have proven themselves to me on PS3 are Uncharted, Ratchet and LBP.

Foxstar Sixtail

@Elwood2112: Which has the best exclusives then?

FP_slomo788

Here's a run-down of future exclusives on both. The list was taken from Wikipedia so it might be incorrect and incomplete

PS3:

LittleBigPlanet
Resistance 2
SOCOM: Confrontation
Motorstorm 2
Killzone 2
Gran Turismo 5
Wipeout HD
FFXIII Versus
God of War 3
Infamous
Twisted Metal
Disgae 3
Heavy Rain
White Knight Chronicles
MAG
Afrika
DC Universe Online (also on PC)
Valkryie Chronicles
Way of the Samurai 3
Yakuza 3

360:

Gears of War 2
Halo Wars
Halo Chronicles
Another Halo Project?
Another Bungie prokect
Alan Wake
Fable 2
Banjo and Kazooie 3
Forza 3
Too Human
Guilty Gear 2
Infinite Undiscovery
Tales of Vesperia
Lips
Warhammer: Battle March
Spectral Force 3

The list doesn't include many of the XBLA and PSN exclusives on each.

LittleBigPlaneteer

1st party games he has a point, but as far as 3rd party exclusives Sony doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Synthemesc

I'm inclined to disagree with Kaz. I feel that the 360's lineup of exclusive titles is second to none.

Fable 2, Gears of War 2, and perhaps most importantly the as-of-yet unannounced Bungie X-box 360 project.

Helioz

I kind of agree with the guy. Sony's exclusive are pretty good...

Until they get delayed or cancelled (*cough* Home, Little Big Planet, The Getaway *cough*).

Draco Basileus

Now let's hear the M$ corporates.

We got halo, did I mention Halo? Yeah so about Halo. Gears of Halo confirmed.

Snipes424

What exclusives? God of War is alright and Resistance is just another shooter. They have the weakest exclusives of any console I've ever seen.

Elwood2112

Well, i do remember reading something a while ago which gave the average critics score for each 1st party... and guess who came out on top... yep Sony!

BUt i mean, come on guys... of course Kaz is gonna say his company is the best...
... companies don't generally put themselves down.. thats just plain silly...

scuba2steve

@macr0planet: They were totally giving that award to a game which has nothing on the table but a pre-rendered trailer. Sure. You're a bit optimistic there aren't you? Not saying anything against a great 3rd party game (it's all the same to me), but if R2 and LBP didn't "cut it", then so didn't Gears 2, Banjo or Fable 2.

Candlejack

Personally I'm not a fan of the Playstation exclusives. However, that goes for the PS2 also. In fact, I think I'm amongst the 10 people who's games library was actually larger on Xbox and Cube than PS2.

I don't care for Metal Gear Solid, but bloody hell LittleBigPlanet looks amazing. When I eventually get a PS3, that'll be the title I'll be picking up with it.

Krondonian

@IanC: Yeah, PS3 needs moar Mudkipz!!!11!

FP_slomo788

/agree

Kenny

@ƒox:Well if you like patches, waiting longer and don't mind keeping your PC up to date, then more power to you dear sir. I however like my gaming to be as headache free as possible. And Live which still's worth paying for.

Foxstar Sixtail

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA!!! Oh that crazy sony person...

Gravnar

@Foxstar Sixtail: Well, how's this. List me off some true 360 exclusives that you personally (after all it's all subjective which fanboys tend to forget) find to be better than the PS3's.

ƒox

@Foxstar Sixtail: R2 is out this November. And LBP would be amazing even without user-created content. It has great graphics, physics and the gameplay seems on par with the rest (isn't Mario amazing?). And please don't put HS in the same basket as Lair.

FP_slomo788

I think it's funny that IGN gave Fallout 3 the best game of both PS3 and Xbox 360. Which means third party games can rule.

Looks like a multi platform game out did GoW3 and R2.

macr0planet

@IanC: Holy crap. If it takes more than that, you are seriously picky. I'm not joking. GoW3 is basically by all accounts expected to be epic and f*ckin awesome, just like LBP.

Don't know what can convince you then, however, it's also not clear what first party is here. LBP is not made by Sony's internal studios.

Candlejack

@LittleBigPlaneteer:

I think he was pointing out the fact that your name is LittleBigPlaneteer...

Ninegauger

And the $50 bill they slipped in...

Ignatius

I bet Lair's a great game... I mean, my reviewer's guide says so!

Ignatius

Silly Kaz, can't we all get along?

Wolfers

Did he hear himself state that as a fact and then as proof use products that haven't even come out yet?

And even if that were true, Nintendo had the best exclusive first party titles during the N64's run and it didn't help them.

It's all about exclusive 3rd party content (whether it be games like Mass Effect or Castle Crashers or exclusive content like GTAIV or Fallout 3).

In any case

Ninegauger

@LittleBigPlaneteer:I wish I could trust you to be unbiased, but your posting history says otherwise.

As for Kaz, oh Kaz. GOW doesn't even hit till sometime in 2009, same with R2 and LBP would largely be ignorable without it's user created content and even with all the work that went into it, if it breaks a million in sales, i'll be stunned because the bulk of PS3 owners aren't going to give a -damn- about it.

I find 'best exclusives' and PS3 to be a term that makes me arch my eyebrow as so far, only Uncharted and MS4 have really measured up and Heavenly Sword and Lair not only panned, but pity on every retailer with new copies of them. Right now there's still not enough 'exclusive' content to recommend it over a 360 Kaz and you know it.

If Microsoft had killed RROD at the factory or at least addressed it far sooner, you guys wouldn't have caught them for a long time if ever.

Foxstar Sixtail

I gotta agree with him though. Any good 360 "exclusive" shows up on the PC. It's the main reason I don't own a 360. PS3 exclusives are truly exclusive.

ƒox

@LittleBigPlaneteer: With a name like that, I'm afraid it's hard to tell people what you think. Seriously. What if I named myself Fenix360man and made comments about Microsoft always being the best.

great exclusives are all opinion based. Sure LBP looks great and fun, but it's not going to get alot of people just to buy a PS3 because of it, same goes with Halo (which I don't like).

Kaz is nothing but $$$$$$$$$$$. I'm beginning to hate 1st party games, give me the third parties that are multiplatform.

macr0planet

Kaz, I'm still waiting for PS to send my repair box!!! My piece of shit 3 can't read media on disk; therefore I can't play game discs, dvd's or blu-ray discs. I've been waiting for nearly a week for the shipping box to arrive... and nothing yet. When my 360 broke down it took me exactly 8 days from the day I made the repair claim to the day I received the refurb 360. With PS I've waited six days just to get the freaking shipping box. The only reason I want my ps3 fixed is so that i can view my BR library. At least my 360 has been running like a champ as it is my game console where as ps3 is my media (SD,BR,DVD) viewer. I think this fall I'll actually buy my first ps3 title in Little Big Planet but up until now the only game I bought for ps3 was Twisted Metal off the PSN.

RgvXavi

@baberg:

Everything is subjective, so obviously my opinion will differ from yours. You failed to give an opinion though so I don't know why I'm even replying to your useless post.

LittleBigPlaneteer

I love Kaz, he can hurt some feelings and make folks pout. Although to be fair, the behavior is hardly console exclusive. Kotaku really should just make a separate area just for corporate talk, as it's non-news a vast majority of the time.

eqhara

THE POWER OF THE CELL COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF THE CELL COMPELS YOU!

DocBacca

Kaz is the best thing since Shabba-Doo.

flashtut

Ahh one thing we can always count on during expo and conference season... Each talking head from all three console companies and some of the bigger publisher start to talk out of their ass and crap from their mouth.

Tull

Resistance 2 walking right into GoW 2?

Little Big Planet being the most overhyped game I have ever seen?

God of War III not made by Jaffe?

Pass.

Anything Kaz says should be taken with many grains of salt.

hop3less

You're doing it wrong Kaz.

FP_slomo788

@LittleBigPlaneteer: Is Kaz really wrong though? I mean comparing PS3 exclusives to the competition, i'd have to agree with him.

Well, from an unbiased commenter like you, I can't help but be persuaded!

baberg

I want to know what the "Bonus content Exclusive" is, that i am getting with my ps3 games.... Is it the Bluray disks or DVD coming with games i preorder? or constantly losing of exclusives?. Then we get PR bullshit with the promise of great games 1 to 2 years down the road when we need the games now. (They were delayed again as usual) Only games i am really looking forward to are the ones named by Haz along with Naruto due out later this year. But that is kinda a long wait. And where the hell is my Battlefront 3 at?

Jopan

If I were from the USofA I would disagree with Kaz, but since I'm European and 22 years old my taste is neither Fragbox360 nor Casuii, so yeah I <3 PS3 and it's exclusives

-Shalashaska-

No.

i_9

Personally just looking at first party, I do like Sony's stuff the best so far, but what ever

djricekcn

hmmmm... it is WAY too early for him to be making claims such as this. although i am sure he knows of many upcoming titles in development that we aren't yet privy to- still not a wise statement to make only a few short months after sony's worst holiday lineup in recent memory (only Uncharted mattered last christmas).
on the other hand, maybe he means from here on out. if so then, i probably have to agree. Microsoft has hardly ANY first party games so to speak of aside from the Halo wars, gears 2, and... Lips (are they publishing Fable?). Nintendo supposedly "is working on" new Pikmin/Zelda/Mario games. i'll believe it when i see it.
Sony really has risked a lot this generation because they have invested a LOT of time and money in developing new IPs and first party development teams.
for Kaz's sake i hope for once he is right.

laser beams

God, I can't stand these PR assholes.

TheGuilty1

i bet he said the same thing a few months back, but this time around he had to leave out FFIII

F22

@kagebutsu:

I know, right?

It's funny. Because Microsoft and Wii say the same thing. So it's can't be true! It just...CAN'T!

macr0planet

"obviously platform exclusive"

No shit.

"and is the best out there"

Errrr, sorry but none of the firstp arty Ps3 games so far ahve set my world alight, and its going to take more than God of War 3 and LittleBigPlanet to change my mind....

IanC

He might be right. Just look how excited 360 fans get each time a Sony exclusive is announced for the 360.

Mitch Cumstein

Funny stuff Kaz, funny stuff.

exkon

Let me know when Kaz tells us that the PS3 isn't the greatest thing known to man. That would be news.

However, despite being a 360 owner, I do think PS3 has some good exclusive titles. In all honesty, I own very few exclusive titles for my 360. I just find the multi-platform games best on my little white prism.

guitarzan2k5

@flit:
You do realize that 2010 is only 16 months away? Might wanna re-think that metaphor.

Lazlo

Sony power, Heil Hirai!

Lootskin

Oh snap! You got served!

XeroKool

Is Kaz really wrong though? I mean comparing PS3 exclusives to the competition, i'd have to agree with him. Most 360 exclusives I wanted have either shown up on the PC, or on the PS3 eventually (except for Dead Rising).

LittleBigPlaneteer

Lets count our eggs after they hatch, shall we Kaz? As for exclusives already out, one good game does not a system make, or in the case of the PS3, a number I can probably count on one hand.

TurinTurambar

@JChaos:
Most companies would be better off if they kept their stupid executives from opening their mouths.

Covert_Knight

I don't know, I'm inclined to agree with Kaz, at least at the moment. They're looking really, really nice for the rest of this year, and the other two? Not quite as much. Of course, that doesn't make the PS3 the best, and it doesn't mean the others suck-- I like the 360 best of all, myself-- but while Kaz's tactics may be a bit tasteless, his point is well taken. I hope Nintendo and Microsoft can answer back with some quality exclusives. Microsoft-- that just means more. Nintendo-- that means, oh nevermind. Just team with Ubisoft for the next big release in their "IMAGINE" series, called IMAGINE If Nintendo Made a Game This Generation I Gave a Crap About.

I kid, I kid!

wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!

Oh Kaz, you so funny.

Loztprophet

'' I DEMAND THAT ALL OTHER CONSOLES CEASE THEIR EXISTENCE AT ONCE BEFORE THE MIGHT OF.. blu-ray.. gow III.. resistance 2.. little big planet..''

G_the_fresh

Unfreeze my Cryogenically frozen body in 2010 when God of War 3 comes out and you might have a point, Kaz.

flit

@alfredofroylan: This.

Sony would look so much better in my eyes if they could just get Kaz to shut up.

JChaos

Well, having played LBP this weekend I can say that that is pretty damn amazing and definitely smokes most the competition...
The others not so much.

Demonbird

@Boozerz: We really do need more of those.

Aflack: Likes slushies

If it's not Halo, he's wrong.

RetroBob

"not pictured". lol, are you sure?

3inst3in

Shadow of the Colossus cannot hold a candle to Wii sports.

I'm kidding, but it's the only chance I'm going to get before this thread spirals out of control when everyone begins to argue over who has the best 1st party devs.

Aflack: Likes slushies

Is there a way to keep Kaz ...... in silence?

alfredofroylan

Whatever makes him feel better!

Doctor Dentz

Dance fight!

Boozerz

Hahaha.

DaPress

Well yeah, of course he's going to say that! So will Reggie Fills and... that dude at Microsoft. I personally disagree with Kaz here, but I wouldn't expect him to say anything different.

karmaghost

I'm surprised you could hear him speak, what with his head buried so far into the sand.

Aye Mak Sicur

I love corporate bullshit.

kagebutsu

I totally agree, Kaz! That's why I sold my PS3 to buy PC parts, you effing jerk.

GrrSnort

@mpar:

NOOOOOOOOOO

Lips and SingStar: Molly Ray Cyrus Edition iz

...

FunKrusher

WII MUSIC ITS GOING TO KILL THEM ALL !!!!!!

...

mpar

@stfufools:

Hey I can respect your opinion, but I'm just glad that my gaming taste aren't as developed as yours to the point where I think Mario Galaxy is boring same old same old junk, or that ,b>Zelda Twilight Princess was "underwhelming" or that I don't care about Metroid Prime 3. Or that I'm not getting excited for a new Pikman game, or looking forward to MadWorld, or SpyBorgs, or didn't have fun with Excite Truck or Sonic And the Secret Rings (which seemed to set the quality pace for Sonic titles this gen), or Mario Kart Wii, or Zack and Wiki. And damn what's the point in looking forward to the Conduit, or Wario Shake it, or a sequel to Lost Winds, or Kid Icarus (if it ever comes out), or StarFox or any of that stuff?

FunKrusher

@baberg: no, I'm not saying a game has to use all of the features but if Nintendo was going to release a Fire Emblem for Wii, then make it a Wii game...don't bullshit the fanbase by leading them on thinking they're buying a Wii game when in fact...it's a gamecube title with a Wii pricetag. That's not fair to the fanbase.

you want to talk about evolution of franchises? let's talk about some that worked. Metroid Prime. I don't care what the naysayers think, THAT is Metroid realized in 3D and it's done beautifully. The atmosphere, the music, the enemies, the exploration...it's all Metroid but so much more. It's still the best of the three minus the control scheme.

Another evolution of a great series...Metal Gear Solid. When that came out for Ps1, gamers the wor