@Coquiton:

That is what the developers should be thinking. As far as being creative the majority of developers suck major ass.

Any moron could think of a new HALO game, be it squad based, RTS, etc. HALO is not exactly the smartest gaming cookie on the block you know..

Vanguarde

Rumor has it, this is the secret peter jackson project.

Tyrannical

wow I thought anything else that came from the Halo franchise would be a huge disappointment but this idea is looking great to me. This is what I wanted from Halo in the first place.

CrimsonShin

i always liked the squad dynamic of the halo npc soldiers. just sad that they died too easily.

lol we should have more squad games set in downtown metropolitan areas. Spread out squad we have to cover 3 square miles within the next 2 hours......

......IN SEARCH OF THE LOWEST PRICES FOR THOSE SHOES. MOVE OUT. (this does not give any company to make a squad based game based on this concept wit bratz, barbie and similar crap)

maraxusofk

@wildknight: Yes! That's what I want too. Republic Commando was a great game that should live on.

Gunloc

@Terrorsaur.: It is:
[www.merriam-webster.com]

but you'd probably say was instead of went.

wanion

@Coquiton: a Pizza Hut. One guy's the cook, one guy's the cashier, one guy's the manager, one guy's the driver.

wanion

@wildknight:
Yes Republic commando was quite fascinating but it truly went underappreciated.

IF thats even a word. According to Firefox, it isnt.

Terrorsaur.

... who is really sick of squad based games set in wars.

Where would you want them set? Rather, where else would the be set?
:D

Coquiton

Finish the Finished Fight. In Finland.

sarcasmOD

Now, if these means, "Gears with GRAW squad control," or something, then: friggan awesome. I'm sure the gameplay will be high quality, but I'm really worried about the cheese and the story... Need less of the first and more of the second.

Garro

@y2julio: Yes. Keep the colors, but add gore everywhere. Disembowelled half dead unicorns, and bunnies being eaten by the covenant! How can it fail?

On a more serious note, look at the picture of this newspost. That's the color palette I want. A realistic color palette.

Coquiton

Oh joy. Another squad based shooter.

What will they call this one?

Ghost's of Halo?

Halo Six: Earth Squad?

Halo Recon: Call of Duty?

Duty Calls: Halo Force?

Peter Jackson Presents: Halo Squad Six, featuring Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon?

Halo S.Q.U.A.D. : Cortana's Strike Force Bravo?

H.A.L.O. "High Allegations, Low Operations"?

Or how about the grand daddy of them all..

Rainbow above a HALO six: Destiny Calls/Ghost Squad Operation: HALO D.E.S.T.I.N.Y.

I just hope they set this game on a HALO that features World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and Operation whatever the fuck we are doing right now in Iraq.

Imagine the last stage of the game - each section of the HALO invades the other - with your squad caught in the middle! Watch in awe as NVA fight Japanese soldiers from WW2. Or as Desert Storm troops fight the French in the trenches in WW1!

OMFG.

This has been brought to you by Vanguarde, who is really sick of squad based games set in wars.

Vanguarde

@wild homes is a box-offfice disaster: Yeah, I kind of misguided my whole statement by saying "will be interesting" instead of "would be interesting", which is what I intended.

Also, your response to that picture is both extremely relevant and brilliant. Kudos.

Lord Thayer

If this is the direction they are taking, they need to take it easy on the bright neon colors and cheesy voice acting, from everyone. Also, they need to get better writers for both the story and dialogue, and then maybe we will have ourselves a decent game.

Sammo21

So basically they mean no more Needlers.

Len Bias Cocaine Surplus

Hope it's more Gears of War than Ghost Recon. If I want a tactics-heavy Halo game I'll wait for Halo Wars.

KaneRobot

intresting

bobdisgea

@wild homes is a box-offfice disaster: lol

y2julio

@y2julio: I know what you're trying to say, but there's no reason to post pictures of Diablo III in a Halo thread.

wild homes is a box-offfice disaster

@Coquiton: is this more of your color palette? :p

y2julio

@Archaotic: Yes we need more grittiness. I want my 360 to ooze blood and call me it's bitch..wait..that didn't come off right.

y2julio

@Lord Thayer: That's an interesting take, and obviously the rumor's not fleshed out enough to read into it, and well, it's a rumor... but Luke wrote there'd be no Master Chief. So while we might see the conflict through the eyes of regular soldiers-- and that could be compelling-- if the rumor's right it doesn't sound like we'll be getting a new take on Master Chief, from a first-person, or any other, perspective.

Personally I'd like Bungie to just let go of the Halo universe. They've done an excellent job with it, but I'm just not interested anymore. I'd prefer to see them do a new IP.

wild homes is a box-offfice disaster

Woo! My tip was picked up! :D

I just hope that by "darker, grittier" they don't mean "browner, grayer". I loved Halo 3's graphics in the sense that everything was vibrant. I would hate to see another GoW or Killzone pallette.

They don't have to keep the same bright pallette, but I just don't want the game to look like GTA4 just for the sake of "realism".

Halo is not Halo without the colors. :(

Coquiton

So are we going to be playing as ONI special ops or ODSTs? (yes I am a total Halo universe fanboy)

Hey Bungie, go snag some of those freshly laid off Lucasarts employees that worked on Republic Commando. God knows its the only way to get any hope of seeing that game live on in some form.

wildknight

Wicked, i hope this is true, i enjoy the halo universe and this might be one good way to keep the halo franchise going without making a bunch of prequels or sellouts like some other companies do

Scazza

I still hope this isn't true, or if it is, that Microsoft's developing it in-house. Bungie has earned their freedom, and it's high time they work on something new.

Besides, do we need MORE grittiness on 360? Really?

Archaotic

I love Halo.

But more squad-based combat on the 360? If it's still first person and still controls mostly like Halo, ok. Squad features could make that cool.

But otherwise, don't even bother. Between Gears and GRAW I have enough of that on the 360 already.

skatterfelt

"darker, grittier Halo game"
Now we're talkin'.

Konstrix

It will be interesting to see Master Chief from an outsider's point of view; perhaps it will even give him a little depth. I know I really enjoyed seeing Solid Snake from Raiden's perspective.

Lord Thayer

Fantastic!

slomo788

@y2julio: You must be the one guy who bought Daikatana. XD

Shinryoma

I'm suprised they're not just going the quakewars route and slapping a sucessful coat of paint onto the battlefiend model. (with their own random twists of course).

demonknightinuyasha

@Vanguarde:
One could just as easily say "Oh joy, another RPG," or "Oh joy, another racing game," or "Oh joy, another guitar game," or "Oh joy, another sports game," or "Oh joy, another climbing around tombs game," or "Oh joy, another ninja-ish game," or "Oh joy, another crime simulator." Shooters are hardly the only genre that's been beaten to death.

notoriousEIC

"darker and grittier."

Brown vs. Brown?

ShaggE

Having read most of the books, I'd say some of the events in the first and third books (expertly written by Eric Nylund) would make for an excellent squad-based game. As others have said, something along the lines of Republic Commando would be nice, and would fit in with the way the Spartan teams operate in the books.

notoriousEIC

*kicks in door*

WHOSAIDGHOSTRECONIHEARDGHOSTRECON.

RedRaptor

@NeoAkira: Master chief had a voice?!

Beyond-Infinity

@kryzhal: I'd be hooked for hours O_O

Beyond-Infinity

hahaha halo is feeling the burn of gears of war. halo is looking old these days. while gears is so much more badass with finishing moves. so many new things. that old halo engine is sad!

Orionsaint

I don't understand what kind of a real twist that is to not have Master Chief. (forgive me I'm not too educated on Halo's story)

Wouldn't it be exactly like regular Halo but without Master Chief's voice? I mean isn't that his only identifiable feature?

NeoAkira

@Coquiton:

i could totally for go for a squad based fast food simulation. you got your specialists for burgers, fries, shakes, and then your specialist in not speaking useable english, he's also a master of fucking up your order.

demonknightinuyasha

I'd love to play the game through the eyes of a grunt. Squad based grunt combat. I think that's what they mean by darker and grittier. As a grunt you're only bout 2 feet tall. Everything's bigger than you. Everything can destroy you easily. This can make everything scary. And by grittier they probably mean you being on the underside of master chief's shoe a lot.

kryzhal

Great.. now i might even like it.

Cosmitz

@y2julio:

that made me giggle like there's no tomorrow. thank you =D

demonknightinuyasha

@Hobbes: Played it, didn't like it (in the way that I WANT to like a tactical fps. Don't get me wrong, it was great.) I'm still waiting for a tactical fps that feels RIGHT, right in a way that I can't describe and shouldn't be asked to, lol, if that makes sense. Finding this certain something is like finding some greater truth to the world. Maybe I'm looking at this too deeply, idk.

My360broked

This is what Halo reminds of:

[www.idkwtf.com]

Seriously, put the word Halo on a piece of dog shit and IGN will give it 10/10.

MykalBloom

@My360broked: The game you're decribing is Rainbow Six.

Hobbes

I'd prefer to see Bungie move away from shooters for a while, let them explore their potential.

We already know they can make a great shooter, but what else are they capable of?

Hobbes

i would kill myself for a prequel rpg where you play as a forerunner around the time of the first cleansing. it would expand the universe w/ real substance, and i'm sure john's story could be tied into it somehow.

feartheraven

I'd love to see it be some sort of uber-revolutionary tactical fps; I like the concept behind the genre, but never have I played a tactical fps where the tactical portion of it was used in a way I enjoyed. I dunno how many other people feel the same way, maybe none. But, basically, if they could nail a tactical system that I liked and basically kept the same core level design, I'd thoroughly enjoy it; It's one thing to have a set of MJOLNIR armor soaking up damage while you run in for a neck-snapping melee attack, but quite another when the opponent is much larger and stronger than you, and you have to really play your cards right. Something like that could really take the vulnerability that I really enjoyed about playing the Halo's on Legendary (and with various skulls in the 3rd installment)and put them even in a Normal difficulty. I'm just saying, there is SOMETHING there, though what is a bit of an enigma.

My360broked

I didnt think it was necessarily actually HALO branded, I thought Bungie left its partnership with microsoft to free themselves up to make other games. You know they did make games before halo came out.

TheGreySpectre

@Beyond-Infinity: Of course. How else could he whisper such sweet nothings in my ear?

Intellectualdiot

@wildknight:

Testify brother. Nice to see a couple of comments about Republic commando. I love that game.

I think this could shape up to be a great game. It would be nice to see that war from a different perspective.

Oorah!

nottsville

i know how how to make halo darker and grittier.

shove it in a hole where it belongs and let it rot like it deserves

invadrzim

"But we'll wait for confirmation before popping the champagne corks, thanks."

I have only done that about... 3 times this gen. Once I HAD to for the FIRST Condemned, which DID NOT prefer cock over Coke or Pepsi, then again for that fantastic mess of a game Mass Effect, and a third time for the contents of the Orange Box, and some cheap lager for CoD4 and UT III. The only thing that is even remotely looking to justify popping ANY cork down the road is Mirrors Edge, without. A. Freaking. Doubt. And maybe some warm whiskey for the slew of what may very well be a small streak of a few cool fighters.

@MykalBloom:

"This is what Halo reminds of:

[www.idkwtf.com]

Seriously, put the word Halo on a piece of dog shit and IGN will give it 10/10."

One of their so called "professionals"(professional dick eater's is more like it, amirite?) gave one of THE fucking coolest games EVAR created a god damned MOTHER-THREE-POINT-FUCKING-OHHH!

[ps2.ign.com]

Read the review and TRY, just TRY and fucking hold on to your brain, all I can say is, I rest my case.

Bando

@Hobbes: They made some RTS games that people liked.

dowingba

A Halo game where you play as a human is actually a really good idea. A halo game in third person with sticky-cover? Meh, I'm hoping that's not the case. I like Gears of War and all, but I also like other types of games.

dowingba

Third person is the future of shooters

Orionsaint

@NeoAkira: I guess what they are saying is that the game will not play like Halo has played so far. Maybe you die more quickly, maybe the grunts don't run away from you any more. Who knows? In any case the mere fact that MC is not there seems to have got people more interested in the game - could turn out to be a great PR stunt.

IronsUK

If I was Bungie I would definately make at least one more halo-branded game before trying out new ideas. They've just split from their parent company and could use a cash injection. Halo will guaruntee that.

After that - hopefully it's back to the drawing board.

IronsUK

@Beyond-Infinity:

my mistake then. Since there are NO identifiable features of Master Chief how does this count as a twist?

NeoAkira

@demonknightinuyasha: Actually, I think they slapped a new coat of paint on the Enemy Territory model.

I think this might be cool, as long as its not as brutally difficult as Ghost Recon is. I've never been able to play those games very long before becoming absolutely infuriated with them. Hopefully since this is a science fiction series they won't be striving for realism.

Wubbytoes

I don't like the idea of playing as someone other than master chief. Disliked playing as the arbiter, thouht it was a terrible idea. So, for now, this looks like a no deal for me.

JokesJokes

I hope the game ends up good since the third and second halo kind of failed to make the plot and levels as endearing as the first one. I don't think we need a new dark and gritty killzone copy though since it's just more shades of grey with the odd bit of lighting. That doesn't always bother me but I would like to see them move away from it in some games. Halo had a sci-fi and colourful style so unless this one brings it's own style then it'll most likely just get washed out.

Llost

@Orionsaint: ... ehh, no, not really.

Pablos102030

I hope this is true. The fictional universe that Halo is set in... one in which humanity fights a losing battle against an enemy that has them beat on numbers, technology, and resources, is very compelling. But throughout the Halo series, it never got a very good treatment. Even the 'core' story, that of Master Chief's saga was a bit hard to comprehend... not because it was overly complicated, but because things were NOT EXPLAINED TO THE PLAYER.

A little more down and dirty, WWII style sci-fi shooter sounds right up my alley. (Republic Commando, anyone? It was Star Wars + Normandy.)

Playing as a new hero, with a new, sympathetic cast of characters who actually do more than provide the occasional plot device and then DIE sounds like a good deal to me.

Insomnia Bob

@JokesJokes: You know, you're tough out of luck if you won't play a game without Master Chief ;) Even if MS would pump out Halo 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, X and XI online, that's barely a fraction of all games ever released. If these rumors are true, then it's not a Halo 4 at all, but a different gamer using an already created universe. It would be like dissing Dark Forces because you didn't play as Luke Skywalker or flew an X-Wing.

The Whaleman

ODST squad based shooter = win.

Maybe it'll be something like the landfall short

+ Watch video

Burguois

Halo is a big deal to a lot of people, Microsoft included. Perhaps that it's a relativly young franchise it's suseptable to becoming a easily tainted franchise in the minds of gamers. That said Microsoft better be damn sure, that whatever Halo game comes out, it is "mostly" universally acclaimed or it could very well be the end of the Halo money machine for MS.

Now I can understand the need for MS to release another shooter with the Halo name on it, as MS tends to struggle with creating a good first party library and having released most of those franchised games MS really needs this game at this point in the canosle race.

Are they milking it? Maybe.

SAKY

@y2julio: Holy crap that is funny did you draw that?
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Well ummm I will most likely hate this new halo game. I don't feel like playing another squad based game. So yeah... I will buy it but not enjoy it...

Gravnar

I don't see why playing a game without Master Chief in it would be a bad thing. It's like saying that a Metal Gear game without Solid Snake in it would be rubbish!

Erm.....hold on a minute.....

nottsville

@NeoAkira: Spartans are the results of a very extensive super soldier program. There's only about 7 active spartans (6 now that Chief is gone), each of which is essentially an army in and of themself.

The majority of the UNSC is made up of regular soldiers, Spartans are very rare and few and far between.

A game without the player in direct contact with a Spartan would be pretty interesting as the perspective of Halo is very skewed as you're viewing it as an incredibly strong, very large Spartan so the average enemy is not as much of a threat or deterrant as they would be to, say, a 5ft, 6in soldier.

Burguois

@Gravnar: Nope, I didn't draw it. It's from an old kotaku article.

y2julio

i highly doubt it has to do anything with bungie, as frankie flew the coupe to follow his beloved halo franchise and keep it on check.

karmakid

There's still time to open up the cryo chamber for Captain Price and let him have a grand new adventure with Sgt Johnson.

I'm curious about this "grittier" Halo though? What does that mean? More brown and grey?

Salen

@Vanguarde: Well, when else would they set them? Squad based games during peaces?

"Alright, guys, objective is in vegetables and juices aisle. Move in undetected and then retrieve the package, and exfiltrate via the cash registers."

"Sir, may I ask, what does the Pentagon need from this Price Chopper?"

"Pam oil, Briggs. A fuckload of it."

Polterg3ist

Interesting. People are upset that Master Cheif might not be in Halo, yet some of these people are the same who want Link removed from his own series.

People are so weird.

EmeraldDragon

can you believe that Halo is almost 10 years old? The first demonstration of it was at an Mac Expo in 1999.I wouldn't doubt there being a new halo game, thats all that bungie does anyways. Do you think Bungie is going to sit on there ass and do nothing? Halo is the testicular fortitude of Bungie. Here check out this awesome halo review.

+ Watch video

tokyoshi

This is exactly what I was hoping they'd make.

belo

@y2julio: Well considering we have that in Diablo 3 where it's even more out of place I was expecting a master chief riding a my little pony and farting butterflies to *knock out* the enemy.

I wish D3 and this halo game would go the other way but it's going to be fun none the less.

Llost

@Aye Mak Sicur: Like an Oni 2? Actually, I wouldn't mind that, if the combat and shooting and running and jumping were better. But seriously, an Oni 2 would be a good start. It would be like Ghost in the Shell with some Assassin's Creed-style running along the rooftops of a modern civilization.

Salen

Bungie already mentioned they'd be making an announcement at PAX. This does sound awesome, but I'd really like to see Bungie spread their wings from Halo. God knows they can do (and already have done) so much more.

Aye Mak Sicur

"This game will be a "darker, grittier" Halo game, featuring a squad of human soldiers and gameplay that's "a cross between Ghost Recon and Gears of War"." If this is anywhere remotely true. Bungie, you have an instant buy.

Quicksilver4648

I for one will welcome the tone change as Halo has truly become Gaylo over the past years. Let's not run the series into the dirt, keep it fresh. Can't wait to see what this "Halo Blue" is really all about ;0

iNime

@TRT-X: Pretty much every Spartan looks exactly the same. The only real difference between Spartans in the UNSC is their armor models, which vary slightly depending on their class.

They're an army with their own uniform, after all.

Burguois

There will be no Master Chief, but I assure you there will be a Spartan that looks like a dead ringer for MC.

See: Dead or Alive 4.

TRT-X

@Strangelove: People just seem to want change, and then when they want more change they'll go back and keep swapping thinking it's new.

Llost

@Orionsaint:

What? First of all, third person is actually the past for shooters, since that is how shooters evolved. Secondly, FPSs sell like crazy. I love Gears as much as the next guy, but that's a hell of a conclusion to jump to.

Strangelove

I'd love a new Full Spectrum Warrior game....can't some sort of agreement be worked out here?

CanaryWundaboy

That.Sounds.Perfect.

Hobb3z

I thought Bungie wanted to get away from the whole Halo thing, expand their horizons, and yet they are right back where they were.

Scott3D

Without being Master Chief, you lose that "one man army" style of approaching a situation, which I hope brings some freshness to a series that, sorry to say, got repetitive by the time Halo 3 rolled around. I've loved the series from the day I picked up my launch original fat-box, and I love it enough to actually be interested in other perspectives.

The Halo series has always had a good feel to the control scheme and the overall combat, but I would absolutely love a FPS with that same Halo feel, but as a UNSC Marine controlling a squad with Full Spectrum Warrior type squad controls. Telling your guys where to stack, what to fire at, etc.

Bruce Skillis

I've thoroughly enjoyed all 3 Halo games. This, though, doesn't interest me. Its just not DIFFERENT enough from this description.

I'll wait for a confirmation and more info first, but I'm pretty much "meh" for now.

DARTH_TIGRIS

I think they should let the series die. They had a fantastic run at it and there is nothing worse than a series that feels forced. However, what if they remade Halo 1 in all its original glory, yes with health and fall damage, but with shiny new graphics? Interesting...

Dr.Fondler

@Lord Thayer: You just liked naked cartwheels...

Helioz

so....a halo game without master chief? is that even a halo game at all? they would just use the name to get people to buy it. My problem is now instead of cashing in on the Halo name they are cashing in on the Halo name AND the success of gears of war style gameplay. The word that comes to me is sellout...its time to move on

robokasey

So will it be in 3rd person? God damn this will be so unbelievably epic

Foreign-Contaminant

If you remember it was announced almost a year ago that Christian Allen, the senior designer and creative director of the Ghost Recon series left Ubisoft and joined Bungie. Also, there is a new Halo novel coming out this Fall called Halo: The Cole Protocol, which is about a squad of SPARTAN-IIs who were on an isolated mission during the events of the Halo video-games.

They are definitely priming this game.

ekeown

I read that as "Master Chief" ... "Free Halo Game"...

It must be late but if it was free that would be awesome!

TurtleSoup

It'll be nice to have something new. GTA 4 was uneventful and an easy beat, CoD4 multiplayer is getting a little boring, and SSBB, well, it's only fun now with 4 people that are as good as you. Rock Band is still going good though, besides of the broken drum set that I don't want to replace until Rock Band 2. Not a Gears fan tho, really really short story line, and you can't jump...So let's just hope this will pull me out from under water that is filled with games that have gotten really boring.

EvilTim102

A thought that I had: Could it be a rescue mission, specifically the rescue of a certain green-armored cyborg and his blue hologram girlfriend? There WAS that whole ending with the rear half of the Forward Unto Dawn drifting toward some planet that had obviously been colonized.

My360broked

Got me interested.

EditorinChief

Now this sounds like it could be fun!

Cheroro

Halo Six - Vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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