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Nintendo's Reggie Would Love To See 'Bottoms-Up' Wii GTA
Posted by Brian Ashcraft at 2:00 PM on July 23, 2008
Grand Theft Auto doesn't exactly leap into mind when you hear someone say "Nintendo 2.0". But new Nintendo is getting a GTA title, Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, for the DS. Does that mean the Wii will get its own GTA? Says Nintendo of America honcho Reggie Fils-Aime:
All I can tell you is that since the day I walked in the door, I've had a very good relationship with the folks at Take Two, continue to have a good relationship. And so in our view we want just the best content coming on our platforms... You know, a GTA on the Wii is all based on what Rockstsar and Take Two want to do. And again, from our standpoint, if they build a bottoms-up game that takes advantage of what we do well, I'd love to see it on the platform.
And hey, why the heck not?
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ffmusicdj
Posted 3:37 PM 23/7/08
@Jelster: He probably doesn't even know what GTA is. He's so dumb and ugly.
ffmusicdj
DoomPlague
Posted 3:35 PM 23/7/08
I'd certainly like to see what they could do with the controls. Godfather's Wii version was, *gasp* actually a good game because of the improvements that the controls presented, particularly in aiming.
And the game could at least look better than GTA:SA.
And why are people thinking that the Wii's limited hardware would hinder gameplay? GTA:SA was made on the PS2 and it has much greater scale than GTA4, to be frank. I'd rather have scaled back graphics in a bigger game than a small game with amazing graphics. Of course, on the Wii only one of those ideas is an option.
DoomPlague
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Posted 3:28 PM 23/7/08
@munkah: Or when it was raining 12 hours ago?
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
PlayerX
Posted 3:28 PM 23/7/08
@Arsenicberyllium: Probably refers to a mini-game with the hookers.... Something about getting out a tent and some peanut butter.
PlayerX
munkah
Posted 3:25 PM 23/7/08
Wii weather channel support would be cool as well so it's raining in the game when it's raining outside.
munkah
Jelster
Posted 3:21 PM 23/7/08
@karasu is my homeboy:
Reggie has been for this for quite a while. I think people are quick to forget that while ports the Wii has seen its fair share of adult games. Godfather, Scarface, Manhunt, NMH along with Mad World which looks batshit insane.
Honestly, people seem so hung up on the perception that Nintendo is all about Casual gaming that they blissfully ignore anything that contradicts that view. The fact people assume this is damage control when Reggie was on record as saying they wanted GTA on the Wii back in 2006 is idiotic. The fact that the DS is seeing a GTA game is further proof that Nintendo are looking to address both markets (why else include it in their E3 presentation?).
Sure it's a little contradictory to protect children and then also supply games with adult content. Then again, as I said, a kid being verbally abused and threatened by another gamer is IMO far more real and damaging than content that is predictable and designed to entertain in a mature way. To draw a real world example, witnessing an murder and watching a movie with a murder in it are quite different. Nintendo are overboard in their protection, I don't think they deny that, but the intention is there to protect people (children) from the unknown and uncontrollable. That isn't really anything to do with the controllable and known content they publish in a game.
Jelster
Gomerboy
Posted 3:20 PM 23/7/08
Grand Theft Auto Wii: Rhode Island.
Gomerboy
valhum
Posted 3:18 PM 23/7/08
Say what you want but u know that it is coming eventually. A port of the PS2 more likely. It actually surprises me they have not made that already.
valhum
Talryyn
Posted 3:11 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: You are right, I forgot about that!! Thanks! Would it be called Paintball Portal or something?
Talryyn
karasu is my homeboy
Posted 3:07 PM 23/7/08
@Jelster: Have you seen GTA's press? "Kids find ways to buy it" "Targeted at teens" "Rated appropriately?" "Should be AO there's sex and you earn points by shooting hookers and driving drunk!"
And Nintendo would love to have this on their console? It's weird and silly, especially when they've been playing the safe and pleasant card this gen. One of their Wii online fears is that newcomers to online gaming would be verbally attacked and be turned off to online gaming, as I read in one of their interviews. They don't want the rudeness and racism and all that stuff, basically, they don't want Xbox Live dialog taking place.
Pretty sure the whole vocal track of GTA IV is a big verbal and racist attack. I'm not saying it's the same exact thing, I'm just saying it's kinda funny.
karasu is my homeboy
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Posted 3:05 PM 23/7/08
@Talryyn: Valve said they wanted to make a Wii game...
...for kids.
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Talryyn
Posted 3:03 PM 23/7/08
@karasu is my homeboy: But it prints money!?! And GTA prints gold bricks, so I can see why Nintendo would want some.
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: And Valve...
Talryyn
mlubczyk
Posted 3:02 PM 23/7/08
Meh. Reggie is just doing damage control. If there's a Wii GTA then it wouldn't be out till 2010 at the earliest if at all. I'm not holding my breath.
The best the Wii can cough up cueently is a over two-year old port of Dead Rising, The Conduit FPS with game design from 2001 and Fatal Frame IV and a Tenchu spin-off that hasn't been good since the PS1.
mlubczyk
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Posted 2:57 PM 23/7/08
@Stormrider: You might be thinking of Mark Rein.
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Jelster
Posted 2:55 PM 23/7/08
@karasu is my homeboy:
One involves you interacting with real people who you have no actual idea of their intentions or control over their actions. The other is a game and is rated based on unchanging content.
Although perhaps given the adult nature of the game it would perhaps be logical to waive the babysitting and allow adults be adults.
Jelster
karasu is my homeboy
Posted 2:50 PM 23/7/08
Nintendo wants to play the role of my parents and won't let me make a screen name to share online for my safety...
...but they'd love to let me play a game where I'm a criminal, sleep with hookers and shoot pimps?
I don't understand anything Nintendo does anymore.
karasu is my homeboy
Jelster
Posted 2:50 PM 23/7/08
@ffmusicdj:
Look back, he's been talking GTA for some time.
Quick googled link [www.gwn.com]
Now who doesn't know what they're talking about?
Jelster
Dtothewayneo
Posted 2:46 PM 23/7/08
i hope you can bitch slap the hoes by swinging the wii remote
Dtothewayneo
Stormrider
Posted 2:45 PM 23/7/08
Didn't Sam Houser more or less say that he thinks the Wii sucks and he's not interested in making games for it? I might be confusing him with somebody else but I think I remember reading that a while back.
Stormrider
outforprophets
Posted 2:45 PM 23/7/08
Is it rated T? Not sure how an M rated DS game would do for DS
outforprophets
FP ph15h
Posted 2:43 PM 23/7/08
I liked Godfather Blackhand... so maybe a Wii GTA might work.
FP ph15h
art_zombie
Posted 2:43 PM 23/7/08
@Monsieur Fap☆Fap!: So... Worse textures, poly count and more pop-up than the other consoles' versions with waggle controls?
I'd say make a GTA game that encourages the Wii's strengths and not compares it's weaknesses to the competition, which is pretty much what Reggie is saying by 'bottom-up'.
As long as it isn't a port.
art_zombie
Jelster
Posted 2:41 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc:
I think No More Heroes was a poor implementation of a sandbox environment. Certainly a low point of the game, I'd take it more as a warning of something done poorly rather than an indication that it's not possible.
I hope R* bring something new to the Wii and GTA if they bring it over. A new art direction would be good, but I think they'd certainly need to be nearing some of the GTA IV world features as I'd be concerned anything less now will just seem a bit dead. If that meant more top down rather than full 3D so be it. Guess we'll see what they bring to the DS as that could be a very good indicator for a follow on title on the Wii.
Jelster
Krondonian
Posted 2:41 PM 23/7/08
@Monsieur Fap☆Fap!: Not every review. I remember people said that it wasn't a true 'open world' environment, more of a hub to get to missions.
I don't have it, that's just what I gleaned from reviews.
Krondonian
PapaBear434
Posted 2:39 PM 23/7/08
This could be pretty cool, but you'd have to do some changes to the game. Instead of playing a mobster, you'd have to be something else. A tamer profession. Let's say a plumber. And the lounge lizard suits just scream "Wannabe-Scarface," so let's put him in something less threatening, or even festive. Like a red suit... NO! Wait! A red pair of overalls. And a mustache, because it just feels like it fits.
And you can't have guns that you could use to shoot anything other than Zombies on the Wii. Make it so you can jump on innocent civilians on the street, and just steal their money as gold coins pop out their head.
This will be the best GTA game EVER!
PapaBear434
ffmusicdj
Posted 2:38 PM 23/7/08
god, annoying, I bet he doesn't even know what GTA is.
ffmusicdj
Monsieur Fap☆Fap!
Posted 2:34 PM 23/7/08
@art_zombie:
That's silly. You can't compare a budget game like NMH to a full fledged effort like GTA (even though looking at GTA's visuals, you'd never guess it had a budget). Especially NMH, where every review savaged the game in regards to the terribly done open world sections.
I think the God Father game would be a better example of what to expect for GTA on the Wii.
Monsieur Fap☆Fap!
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Posted 2:31 PM 23/7/08
@art_zombie: Wasn't Godfather also a sandbox design and it performed fine?
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
VixDiesel
Posted 2:27 PM 23/7/08
"And hey, why the heck not?"
Really?
It would fail even if it was a great game that if it was lucky to even make it past the ESRB and the Soccer Mom Brigade.
Oh yeah, and all the pansy ass senators and congressmen with their panties in a bunch.
And the other assholes who say it mimics violence. Um, manhunt on the wii anyone?
Manhunt was ok because it's not GTA.
GTA on the Wii would be opening a pandora's box that just might crash gaming.
VixDiesel
art_zombie
Posted 2:27 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: We're talking about performance, not profits. I'm not doubting a Wii GTA being good, I'm doubting a Wii GTA can be possible using the current 3d roaming sandbox design when my Wii chugs horribly during driving sequences in No More Heroes.
It would work, they'd just have to change presentation (like Dead Rising).
art_zombie
Krondonian
Posted 2:26 PM 23/7/08
@art_zombie: He's saying the draw distance will be pretty reasonable. As the Wii is twice as powerful as a PS2, the draw distances will be longer than the already acceptable ones in San Andreas.
Krondonian
Jelster
Posted 2:26 PM 23/7/08
@kosbee:
Jesus! Because they didn't announce a DS version of GTA at E3? Sometimes you people are too fucking eager to knock Nintendo.
As long as they pick an engine that is capable to live up the the expectations of the game I'm all for it. 'No More Heroes' was let down by the open world aspect which just felt empty and broken. I'll be happy with a cell shaded/San Andreas engine with solid frame rates and details.
Jelster
wild homes desires a pudding!
Posted 2:26 PM 23/7/08
Of course Nintendo would love a GTA on the Wii. Doesn't really make sense for TTWO, as the Wii's install base smaller than the combined bases of the PS3 and the 360, and Nintendo aren't likely to pony up co-marketing or development dollars, but Nintendo would like to see it. Of course they would.
Sorry, but talk is cheap. Unless YOU take steps to create the kind of audience that would really make a Wii GTA a hit relative to the development cost, or you pony up the money to develop this title, at best you're going to see a port of a PS2 title.
wild homes desires a pudding!
dry-roasted-peanuts
Posted 2:25 PM 23/7/08
Meh. They would have to come up with a very compelling reason for me to even consider it. I liked the original GTAs and GTA3 was great, but I really started to get tired of it once the 80s novelty of Vice City wore off. And GTA4 was just more of the same, but prettier.
dry-roasted-peanuts
Altersparck
Posted 2:24 PM 23/7/08
A Wii-exclusive GTA is just a matter of time, I think. But you'd think that Nintendo might worry about its kid-friendly image if they let something as controversial as GTA onto its casual baby.
Conversely, a Wii-exclusive GTA would serve nicely as an apology to "core" (I hate that term, but I've got none better.) gamers who felt cold and left out after Wii Music.
Altersparck
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Posted 2:24 PM 23/7/08
@art_zombie: And the Wii is the top system of this generation.
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
art_zombie
Posted 2:22 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: Um... It came out on the PS2 and the XBox which were the top systems of their own generation. GTAIV came out on the X360 and PS3 which are the current generation this time around...
What are you trying to say?
art_zombie
Dr Love
Posted 2:22 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen
Logic isn't welcome here in troll-town.
Take your common sense and leave, please.
Dr Love
Monsieur Fap☆Fap!
Posted 2:19 PM 23/7/08
meh. They can keep it on the HARDCORE systems, for all I care. GTA is one of those games where I suppose I'll NEVER understand the appeal. I think they're all terrible.
Monsieur Fap☆Fap!
Emiat
Posted 2:18 PM 23/7/08
@Arsenicberyllium: Reading too much into it I believe.
Emiat
Arsenicberyllium
Posted 2:13 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: Yeah, but that was in like, what?
2004?
We're over that nowadays.
Now we need a draw distance greater than in real life just to get out of bed.
Arsenicberyllium
Krondonian
Posted 2:12 PM 23/7/08
@hyakutaro ichimonji: Well it's a heckuva lot more powerful than the PS2, so think of a super enhanced San Andreas. Not so shabby.
Krondonian
shichi
Posted 2:12 PM 23/7/08
soooo how would this work? move the wiimotes up and down to signify running? a bashing move to smash car windows? will this game come with a wheel?
shichi
CockroachMan
Posted 2:12 PM 23/7/08
I enjoyed Bully a lot on the Wii.. use the same engine to make a GTA game and I'll be already happy.
CockroachMan
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Posted 2:11 PM 23/7/08
@art_zombie: Wasn't San Andreas, like, the best-selling game ever? It only had a PS2 to work with.
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
hyakutaro ichimonji
Posted 2:10 PM 23/7/08
sure, it makes financial sense for nintendo.
but with what the wii's packing under its hood, it doesn't make a single iota technologically.
hyakutaro ichimonji
Silent Predator
Posted 2:10 PM 23/7/08
Why not? Take Two hates money, that's why.
Silent Predator
Heliophage
Posted 2:10 PM 23/7/08
I'm willing to bet that any motion controlling will lead to cries of it being an anarchy simulator that teaches you how to hotwire cars and heist banks through waggle.
Heliophage
Kyattsuai
Posted 2:10 PM 23/7/08
Just what Nintendo's been waiting for - a chance to integrate both the Wii Zapper and Wii Wheel into a single game.
Kyattsuai
kosbee
Posted 2:09 PM 23/7/08
Sounds like damage control after "wowing" us with WiiMusic and another Animal Crossing at E3.
"Lemme' shovel some of this bullshit off my front porch to appease the masses. ... Guys! Guys! I like GTA! I'm pretty chummy with the guys at Take-Two as well! GUYS! Come on... Don't leave!"
kosbee
Vanguarde
Posted 2:08 PM 23/7/08
As long as I can use my Mii in the game, it's all good.
And um.. to use the Wiimote to do a thrusting motion when you hire a hooker...
Vanguarde
art_zombie
Posted 2:08 PM 23/7/08
"And hey, why the heck not?"
If they don't use a top down perspective? Two words: Draw Distance.
art_zombie
FoxyGaz
Posted 2:07 PM 23/7/08
This would sell like hotcakes.
It always does.
FoxyGaz
Yert
Posted 2:05 PM 23/7/08
I'm buying as long as you have to rough people up with the WiiMote in order to steal a car.
Yert
TheHeeyyy
Posted 2:05 PM 23/7/08
I wouldn't be surprised. A GTA for Wii could be a good enough title to bolster its "we're worth more money than what EA is offering" stance.
TheHeeyyy
Arsenicberyllium
Posted 2:03 PM 23/7/08
Great quote for the headline.
Bottom's Up!
Made me want to crack open a Coors Light.
So are you implying that GTA Wii will be a drunken experience, rather than a dedicated, well-built one, Ashcraft?
Or am I just reading way too much into that headline?
Arsenicberyllium
Krondonian
Posted 2:03 PM 23/7/08
Soccer mum comments to follow...
I think it'd certainly be a viable option, and with the problems facing Take Two (maybe less so now), another way to print money would be a Wii GTA.
Krondonian
suya123
Posted 2:03 PM 23/7/08
I also bet he would totally love more money too.
suya123
Talryyn
Posted 2:02 PM 23/7/08
Coming soon to Wii, use MotionPlus to give hookers money!
Talryyn
PlayerX
Posted 4:00 PM 23/7/08
@Hyperfludd: I'll say!
PlayerX
PlayerX
Posted 3:54 PM 23/7/08
@munkah: I've always wanted a game that played in real time.
Then again, it'd always be night-time when I'm playing, but that'd still be an awesome idea. I never thought about weather, though... that's a really cool idea!
PlayerX
PlayerX
Posted 3:51 PM 23/7/08
@karasu is my homeboy: I'm still reeling from there ever being blood in a Nintendo game. Remember when Mortal Combat came out on the SNES?
PlayerX
Hyperfludd
Posted 3:50 PM 23/7/08
@ffmusicdj: Wow.
Hyperfludd
PlayerX
Posted 3:49 PM 23/7/08
@PlayerX: What the fuck was that about, eh?
It's a moot point, as I actually enjoy using the Wii Wheel. I haven't tried a Zapper, tho.
Anyway, too all the nay-sayers, I say this: GTA: SA was fantastic then, and a new GTA on the Wii with slightly better graphics and the control response/programming from GTA IV would sell like a kabillion copies.
PlayerX
Hyperfludd
Posted 3:49 PM 23/7/08
@art_zombie: Godfather: Backhand Edition was pretty a GTA clone game, and it worked awesomely on the Wii. I couldn't see how a GTA game would not work on the Wii.
Hyperfludd
PlayerX
Posted 3:46 PM 23/7/08
@Kyattsuai: "Just what Nintendo's been waiting for - a chance to integrate both the Wii Zapper and Wii Wheel into a single game."
That's a fantastic idea, and I only have ONE problem with it: GTA involves both shooting and driving, and that means a player will have to make use of both the Zapper and the Wheel, they will have to change up in the middle of the game.
It's gonna be okay; I have a solution.
Nintendo, if you're listening, this is the only solution. Trust me, I've thought about this as long and hard as a morning in the bathroom after an evening alone with an entire lasagna. Here's what you have to do: come out with a third peripheral called the Wii Collective that will mount every peripheral simultaniously. If it sounds simple, you're just fucking wrong.
It will weigh fifty times as much as the Chrysler building, and it'll only be slightly more awkward to hold than your father's testicles. It will take exactly four hours to assemble the device, and once assembled, it will cause a magnetic flux that will divert every pigeon for ten kilometers.
The Wii Collective will require the use of a harness, special shoes with grippy soles, and underpants that don't ride up. Why? Because once you're in the Collective, it takes three men a fortnight to extricate you from its clutches.
The only thing more difficult than using the Wii Collective is finding a fucking place to put all this plastic shit in the house you've collected over the last few months.
/end crazy story.
So, anyone think they'll ever use the Wii Zapper in another game? I've got a Super Scope Six sitting at home that says they won't.
PlayerX
PeteeWJ
Posted 4:23 PM 23/7/08
Is it just me or is Nintendo scrambling to satisfy the "core" gamer for their serious lack of hardcore content at E3?
PeteeWJ
Paviel
Posted 4:20 PM 23/7/08
@Hyperfludd (and everyone else, I guess): I once heard No More Heroes being described as a GTA clone. Maybe you could look to it to see how well GTA would work on the Wii.
Paviel
TheIrishNinja
Posted 4:53 PM 23/7/08
@Kyattsuai: heh, you're on fire today.
a bottoms-up game always beats a wii port.
TheIrishNinja
Plan303e
Posted 4:52 PM 23/7/08
I'd buy it as a absolutely ridiculously entertaining replacement for Wii Sports. I can do every one of Sport's game motions while beating people to death!
@Gouki4u's avatar has a severe case of Jekyll and Hyde:
Oh yes, it'd be awesome. And strangling people with the Wiimote+Nunchuk.
Plan303e
demonknightinuyasha
Posted 4:46 PM 23/7/08
"if they build a bottoms-up game that takes advantage of what we do well, I'd love to see it on the platform."
GTA: Liberty City Minigames, coming this holiday season!
demonknightinuyasha
Gouki4u's avatar has a severe case of Jekyll and Hyde
Posted 4:41 PM 23/7/08
I'm looking forward to swinging the Wiimote to pistol whip people.
Gouki4u's avatar has a severe case of Jekyll and Hyde
Fallible
Posted 5:25 PM 23/7/08
GTA virtual console all but confirmed then?
Fallible
CrazyBlue
Posted 6:03 PM 23/7/08
The best comment made by reggie recently I think.
CrazyBlue
Sunjammer
Posted 5:40 PM 23/7/08
Damn you RockTsar! The conservative proletariat will rise against you!
Sunjammer
Ampillion = That Man.
Posted 6:15 PM 23/7/08
So Reg, about that relationship you got going on with Take Two...
Yeah, what's that netted for you so far, buddy? Cause it certainly hasn't been a GTA title for your Wii system. You know, a game that probably would've shut up a lot of the 'core' gamer demographic while they go kill hookers and do drive by shootings and whatnot. If you're over smoozing up to T2 and you haven't scored a GTA... what exactly are you doing there?
Ampillion = That Man.
StrikerGold
Posted 6:07 PM 23/7/08
@ffmusicdj: Is that this generations' equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?"
Say what you want about GTA the series, but Rockstar has always put a ton of effort into each iteration. Designed with the Wii in mind, they could make a hell of a game.
StrikerGold
Bluetribal
Posted 6:32 PM 23/7/08
I'd love to see a GTA on the Wii with proper aiming controls. I think GTA IV shows that a next-gen GTA doesn't necessarily make a better and more replayable game.
I think a sequel to one of their N64 games; Body Harvest or Spacestation Silicon Valley, would be nice as well.
Bluetribal
hefferj05
Posted 6:29 PM 23/7/08
GTA has become irrelevant trash...
hefferj05
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 6:48 PM 23/7/08
Anyone see a possible controversy similar to manhunt? Okay...maybe it won't get that bad but having the ability to mercelessly beat the hell out of a police officer with waggle motion might upset a few fine folks down at the ESRB. I'm still bitter about losing Manhunt wii edition to blatant censorship and would hate for this to happen again to a great and storied franchise like GTA.
Here's hoping.
NeVeRMoRe666
tomsamson
Posted 7:37 PM 23/7/08
i think it would be nonsense if they tried to port gta IV to the Wii. A lot of what makes up the atmo in that game is based on the technical execution which just couldn´t be any close on the Wii and would always feel shallow in comparison.
They should better make an improved version of the GTA ports for the psp with better wiimote aiming added (and skip any waggle ideas right away).
Just saying..
tomsamson
Shiryu
Posted 7:35 PM 23/7/08
I quite enjoeyd Scarface on the Wii, in fact, I reckon it's the best version of the game. I predict GTA Wii won't be too far off after the DS game, since Rockstart wont be delivering any new GTA V anytime soon... well, heres to the future, we certainly need a bright one.
Shiryu
Knukleur
Posted 9:06 PM 23/7/08
Metroid uses the remote to twist and pull on door latches, I guess a friendlier version of those kinds of moves could be applied to a lady's upper chest regions in GTA.
Knukleur
BTFzor_Freestyle
Posted 9:53 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc:
I actually have the game. It's pretty good with motion control, especially during the "We're gonna kill ya if you don't give us the money" parts in shops. Nothing vents anger like grabbing a shopkeeper and slamming his head against the counter.
BTFzor_Freestyle
quen
Posted 10:19 PM 23/7/08
@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: I don't know about 'performed fine' for Godfather. Certainly it worked perfectly well and was a decent game, but the draw distance/pop-in was really annoying when driving. The graphics weren't that good either (they were okay) but draw distance was the real problem.
The draw distance also looked poor in some other cases when still (eg you would have a blank area of sky, then you walk a few paces and suddenly it's occupied by a huge distant building) but I think this may be due to dumb technology, i.e. there ought to be some way to fix that with a single polygon or whatever. Anyway that wasn't a real problem, driving fast was. (Clear road ahead... OH F*** THAT'S A T JUNCTION!)
So anyway it was absolutely playable for sure and obviously it would be equally possible to make a decent GTA game for Wii. Just saying that the limited graphical power does come with some issues. (Mind you, if they had more graphical power... would they use it to improve draw distance, or to make the close-up graphics prettier?)
quen
BtownDesignGuy
Posted 10:06 PM 23/7/08
I kind of hate to say it, but... the shooting action in Manhunt 2 is very reminiscent of the shooting action in GTA 4... the... much, much more lauded shooting action in GTA 4.
So, I mean... Rockstar did kind of try. Maybe Manhunt 2 was a disappointment, but it also appears to be where they prototyped the shooting / cover system that earned so much praise in GTA 4. Makes me wonder if there really, truly, undeniably is a double standard that gamers hold their games to.
BtownDesignGuy
Benjo
Posted 10:31 PM 23/7/08
Yeah, really not a bad idea. I think we'd love to see lots of games made "bottoms up" for the Wii, as a lot of what we get are ports right now.
Benjo
kylo4
Posted 10:52 PM 23/7/08
What he means by "if they build a bottoms-up game that takes advantage of what we do well" than he means Nintendo, like every major Mature game on their systems, will highly censor the game. I've never been able to picture Nintendo having GTA on their system, simply because the games aren't for that demographic and through every generation they've shown that with censor after censor, cut after cut.
kylo4
Bobby McPresscott
Posted 10:49 PM 23/7/08
How about you continue you the GTA3/Stories universe on the Wii? Certainly sounds more fun than GTA 4 looks to me.
Bobby McPresscott
Fatmumuhomer
Posted 11:11 PM 23/7/08
This could work for sure. My favorite version of The Godfather is on the Wii. The controls are perfect. Using the Wiimote and the nunchuk individually to control each hand works really well. Grabbing, punching, throwing, shooting. It's all incredibly intuitive using the Wii controls.
Fatmumuhomer
Ampillion = That Man.
Posted 11:42 PM 23/7/08
@kylo4: Right, exactly like they censored NMH's and it's showers of blood and dismembering of bodies.
Get a clue.
Ampillion = That Man.
PsycheE
Posted 12:34 AM 24/7/08
I would love to see a GTA rendition on the Wii; just to see the effects of the casual gamers and soccer moms go apeshit in the following weeks.
Reggie is trying to maintain a healthy relationship with TT for future endeavors; I really don't see Nintendo of America approving GTA.
How come I don't see activists and CNN/Fox douchery on No More Heroes?, will Madworld have to sell couple millions?.
Right, because a value of tens of thousands of children are negligent when measured against millions.
Obviously my life is far more worth then the next person, since I have superpowers and shit.
PsycheE
underwhelm
Posted 12:23 AM 24/7/08
I came into this thread to see if someone could explain what the hell "bottoms-up" means in this context. I guess not?
Should it read/did he mean GROUND-up?
underwhelm
Altima NEO
Posted 1:12 AM 24/7/08
So basically... Dead Rising with hookers?
Altima NEO
billnabors65
Posted 1:03 AM 24/7/08
GTA on GBA was alright, but didn't sell worth a damn. I can't see a DS GTA game doing any better, and seriously doubt Take Two will invest millions into a Wii exclusive or watered-down port. The system simply doesn't have the horsepower to run anything close to GTA IV (though it would be neat if they ported San Andreas over).
billnabors65
fuchikoma
Posted 1:51 AM 24/7/08
@underwhelm:
Maybe it'll look better after a few pints of beer? :p
"Alright, bottoms-up! It's time for some GTA!"
fuchikoma
fuchikoma
Posted 1:50 AM 24/7/08
Kind of like RE5 "not yet," I take this to mean basically a reiteration of "Nintendo is dedicated to fulfilling the needs of hardcore gamers."
fuchikoma
Fryfat2
Posted 2:14 PM 23/7/08
@art_zombie:
Two words: stylized graphics.
WoW and Okami have proven you don't need a monster processor for pretty visuals.
Fryfat2
Anarchist_Gamer
Posted 3:02 AM 24/7/08
My interest is a shallow puddle quickly evaporating.
Anarchist_Gamer
Jelster
Posted 4:26 AM 24/7/08
@ffmusicdj:
Sorry, I'm not sure whether you're failing to be funny or intelligent.
@Ampillion = That Man.:
I'd call GTA:China Town a GTA on a Nintendo system and perhaps something netted from that relationship. Somehow I really doubt R* would have put GTA IV on hold to release a Wii version first.
@tomsamson:
Isn't that kind of aiming low, ready for disappointment? Why not look for an improvement on GTA:SA rather than expect a PSP port.
Jelster
Ampillion = That Man.
Posted 5:16 AM 24/7/08
@Jelster: Right, but the DS isn't really where the concern is nowadays. Sure there's plenty of casual software on it, but there's a ton of good games there already. Third parties have already been stepping up there. On the Wii, not so much, and who's to say how soon that'll improve? Hopefully the developing community wakes up soon enough and works with it like they do on the DS.
I don't really mean for them to have delayed a game that they desperately needed to get out the door so they could make their bank, but really all they'd of needed was a little running demo of something they could've easily pulled from a PS2 build, shown off some waggle, maybe some virtual hooker-beating with the Wiimote, and then built something for a Wii version down the road.
Ampillion = That Man.
Canadiankid
Posted 3:00 AM 24/7/08
It's amazing to me to see Nintendo Squirm so much. I can't remember a time when they basically went on the offensive after bombing so hard...
Here's a hand to the PR people who obviously spewed some of the bial of the internets at the Ninty higher ups to show just how much some of us hated there E3.
While I still don't expect line-up changes in terms of Wii titles this year I think we will see a definite fan service for the next while in regards to Wiiware and the VC.
They can't expedite game development that fast but if they gave us Mother and a slew of other greats...that might reduce the urge to kill....
Canadiankid
Jelster
Posted 7:16 AM 24/7/08
@Ampillion = That Man.:
Well I mention the DS because you're calling specifically the relationship of Reggie and T2 into question as far as support. He is after all a VP at Nintendo not Wii. But regardless, the DS is a concern because it faced the same criticisms at launch and took some time to get that third party (quality) support. I'll also note that the DS still has a large share of terrible shovel ware, much as the lauded PS2, so lets not use that as a measuring stick of where quality titles will fall.
The Wii likewise is hardly bereft of non-casual games, many of which are worthy purchases. What annoys me is that every attempt by Nintendo to present something non-casual is met with disinterest. Where were the hardcore masses buying Zack and Wiki or NHM? People sit and cry that Nintendo ONLY caters to casuals and yet their more traditional games on the platforms fail to grasp any major retail success. Anyone would think people were whining for the sake of whining. Crying because so and so has their toy and they want it back, but when they get it back they're not interested. It's typical selfish gamer "want, want, want" attention grabbing with little actual conviction behind it.
Hang on, you wanted them to throw together some PS2 port and roll that at a high profile media event!!! If GTA footage on the Wii was anything but stunning (for the Wii) it'd be shat on from all angles before the video had even finished playing. Lets not encourage the exact kind of sloppy development that was the favorite criticism of the Wii until everyone latched onto the "wahhh I'm uber hardcore but Nintendo they like the casual gamers now" whinefest.
Jelster
LosCakes
Posted 9:07 AM 24/7/08
Hahahahaha.
I can always count on reggie to brighten my day with a good chuckle.
LosCakes
TF2Soldier914
Posted 1:05 PM 24/7/08
I would love it too. So make it happen!
TF2Soldier914
Ryodestined
Posted 1:45 PM 24/7/08
Wii doesn't have the audience right now for a GTA to be really successful, IMO. I think it could be a great start for attracting the core gamer to Wii, but perhaps not right now. No reason Take-Two shouldn't help with an original IP for now.
Ryodestined
Ampillion = That Man.
Posted 1:54 PM 24/7/08
@Jelster: I meant as far as having something to show PRIOR to the release of GTa4, instead of wanting in on some part of that title. No way in hell I want more ports, I meant a PS2 build for a simple display of 'Hey, we're making a Wii GTA.'
The rest of the statement I agree with. Heck, I think I've even said a lot of it myself!
Ampillion = That Man.
Espeon200
Posted 11:21 PM 23/7/08
What about those of us who grew up playing "Final Fantasy" on a Nintendo? Who the hell are we supposed to buy the game from?
Espeon200
Oggy
Posted 2:02 PM 23/7/08
And why couldn't he have said this during the conference?
Oggy