@Kanti_V2: Absolutely, because we all know how rational and humble the gentle ps3 fanboys are. You didn't by chance happen to read through the 1000 comments on the FF13 for 360 post, did you? An incredibly intelligent discussion between both sides of the fence i assure you...

No offense meant and i don't necessarily see you as being one of those fools, but lets think about this. do you really think ps3 fanboys would act any differently if they were getting halo or gears or something? fanboys act like fanboys, it does matter what flag they carry.

smuckers is good

Did MS actually pay for this? Some people are saying that they have, but I haven't seen that anywhere. While it does fit MS's diabolical business model, it would also greatly profit Square.

gamadaya

@gamadaya: Because IIRC, you only own a 360 and in the very same universe you wish for, that console would be DOA (Dead On Arrival). Nobody buys a system that has Ninety-Nine Nights and PDZ as top exclusives.

@smuckers is good: A monopoly sucks in any field and I can never be convinced otherwise. I am facing IT education that is forced to be done via Microsoft software because in this country, there are laws prohibiting the use of open-source software in educational institutions. Thus giving Microsoft the monopoly.

This effectively removes anything open-source related (Linux) from my qualifications and in an area that specializes on servers and networking, not having expertise with Linux means death. :)

So one company having the monopoly and the competitors being at the very bottom of the food chain is never good, believe me. It fucked up ATARI and the entire videogame industry once.

Candlejack

Seriously, I wouldn't mind so much FFXIII going to 360... well scratch that, I don't mind.

But what pisses me off is Tri-ace's titles (SO4 and IU, well mostly SO4) being 360 exclusives.. So much talk about, people with 360 should be able to experience FFXIII too.. I agree. But we should be able to play Star ocean 4 too, especially since been a fan since second story first came state side. Well bleh.. I just hope Sony has some trump cards tomorrow.

Kyolux

Versus is for the Wii of course. Just kidding, although that would almost make sense.

Reneg

@Kanti_V2: *Nothing* is worse than an Apple fanatic.

The thing I really want to know is how the hell MS kept this announcement secret until E3.

Hey Kotaku - did you know about this beforehand and hold back?

Just curious.

GrandfatherParadox

With third party exclusives becoming such a rarity, we really don't need 3 consoles. Sony, Microsoft, go collaborate and develop a PlayBox 460. Chop chop!

You know, pretty much what "smuckers is good" just said.

Wolfers

Ugh, that 2012 joke at the end would be funny if it weren't TRUE BLAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGG.

cowondinosaur

@Kanti_V2:
Watch your mouth! Worse than Apple fanatics! Really?

I do hate the people you describe (or at the least, attempt to describe), and a lot of the games you described piss me off to, but I have to admit, this Haloesc culture has really pushed gaming into the mainstream more than any other genre of games. It's not all bad, and the industry is bigger because of it. Also, I don't think MS paid any money for this, did they?

gamadaya

@gamadaya: Oh, indeed. Once you have money of your own you start to realize that the world is your oyster when it comes to games, but then you can either become even more discerning about your purchases (constantly reading CAG, trying out all demos before purchase, forgetting about 'owning' and just get a nice GameFly account) or you can go hog wild.

Hog wild certainly is fun for ages, at least while you have the time! Afterwards, not so much. Still, enjoy what you can when you can and never be afraid to buy a title cheap for a system you don't yet own, especially if it's one that you're dying to play. Eventually that system's price will plummet (in years, at least!) and it's better to have the game lying around rather than being hard-to-find.

And if the game does become hard-to-find, you have a cute little nest egg god forbid the unthinkable ever happens. Not a good financial gamble, of course, but an extra ace in the hole never hurts. ;)

First-Chair

I have no idea why any 3rd party publisher would want to contract their consumer base by making a platform exclusive game. More possible customers is always better then less.

skankingfool

@gamadaya: It just seems silly that i have to pay another 300-400 dollars for 2 games that im stoked about. That is what pisses me off about 3rd party exclusivity.

smuckers is good

@Candlejack: Dude, you have a point, but in my vision of paradise MS, Sony, and Nintendo, all get together to create a glorious console monopoly where there are no 1st, 2nd, 3rd party games. there are just games and a machine that plays them. Tis obviously a pipe-dream and obviously there would be major ramifications if something like this occurred (both positive and negative) but i think that i'd like to see it happen one day.

smuckers is good

Final Fantasy 7 is going to come out for ps3 because psp version said to be continued FF7.

zkotaku

It's not so much that I care at all on what or how many consoles FFXIII comes out on, but I just hate anything that gives ammo to self righteous myopic 360 fanboys. I hate seeing these annoying ignorant little trolls having anything to act smug about (as opposed to their academic pursuits, social life, or physical attractiveness). I think they may actually be worse than Apple fanatics, as far as delusion, devotion to talking points, and all around brand-whorishness goes (I hereby trademark that term by the way, it's Brandtastic!, Oh, and I trade mark that one too).

Not only is their stupidity dragging the whole game industry down (yeah, another EA movie-tie-in rehashed FPS sequel game, and it's got achievements! That's an added feature!), but in the name of fostering their retarded rah-rah attitude, MS has approached this generation of consoles as some stupid sports competition, where it's more important to score a point, like stealing an exclusive, to give their side something to cheer about, than it is to actually MAKE SOME GOOD GAMES!

That, and now I have to wait until two years before the sun explodes before I get to play the game. Thanks MS, I hope the millions you dropped on this were worth it, god forbid you should spend it developing a new IP. Assholes.

Kanti_V2

@First-Chair:
Considering I'm getting to the age where my parents aren't paying for my games anymore, that makes a lot of sense. I can't even get all of the games I really, really want, much less all exclusives.

gamadaya

Maybe next gen Fanboys of specific consoles will be a thing of the past as well....

naaaah...Who am I kidding.

Vecha

@Candlejack:
K. Why are you sorry to break this to me? You act like I would be heartbroken without MS.

gamadaya

Hell yeah its exclusive for PS3.

zkotaku

FF on Xbox. I'm still coming to terms with it. Ever since 7 became such a mega hit, final fantasy has defined "playstation".

Sony's greatest strength from PS1 and PS2 days, their strong 3rd party infrastucture, is being turned against them. Strange how the market evolves...

creepwood

Having kept around 99% of my games growing up and amassing almost every single game I ever wanted to play thanks to the old EB, various game stores around locations I wish not to mention (hey, gotta keep the classics with those locals!), and too many online sales, I'd like to say something to the younger lads in the audience.

Missing a chance to play a game is not the end of the world. There is no need for a "one true console" or to worry about system exclusivity.

I know, I'm speaking blasphemy. At the end of the day if a game is no longer exclusive to your console, it doesn't matter. So long as it's still coming out to your system you are no worse off. If other titles hit your system of choice, even better! Unless you're missing that "oh my god, I have to play that game yesterday!!!" title for some reason or another, you will most assuredly not be any worse off for it.

Trust me on this one, from an old man (ha!) to the young and carefree. ;)

First-Chair

@gamadaya: I'm getting fucking sick and tired of all the people saying 3rd party games should remain exclusive.

In that case, the Xbox360's exclusive games would be restricted to the Microsoft Game Studios' games. And yes, they would suck as much as they do now. I'm terribly sorry to break it to you but the Xbox is dependent on third parties more than ANY other console ever in existence. MS is the only console manufacturer that has a laughable first party. There is no "2nd party". Games published by Microsoft and developed by a 3rd party like BioWare, Bungie, Epic are THIRD PARTY GAMES.

This isn't me hating on a console, it's me judging games on quality, games that I have played for myself.

Candlejack

@DigitalHero:
I don't think 1st party will matter any more than it does now. I'm definitely not against 1st party exclusivity though (I would love to see Mario on the 360, but that's asking a little much).

Also, somebody please explain to V1L3: what my point was.

gamadaya

@smuckers is good: @fulldamage: @gamadaya: I absolutely agree with you guys, although FFXIII going multiplat does not prove that it is going to end anytime soon. It just shows that M$ is going to keep buying up once PS3 exclusives while they keep their own.

ƒox

@DigiMish: Yeah lets cheer for the game being delayed again so they can start and finish the 360 version for a simultaneous release. Yeah, lets cheer for an unpolished product built on the middle ground between the consoles. //Sarcasm

I could care less about it being on the 360, I am pissed though that I have wait while the 360 iteration is made to play the fucking game.

risingphoenix

Also, despite the fact that they seem to have continued their emos in drag tradition, I am actually interested in Versus. It looks like it might be, I don't know, fun to play. My favorite RPGs all have tons of action, and this was supposed to be made by the Kingdom Hearts guys, so I'd say it has promise.

gamadaya

@DigiMish:

But...but this is still an exclusive. I think your comment would work better for the FFXIII announcement not this one for FFVSXIII

NeoAkira

FFXIII

Japan: March 2009
America: September 2009
Europe: December 2015

cos, you know French and stuff

FenderMaster

@gamadaya: "Why can't everyone play them?"

There's a law against owning more than one console...?

V1L3

@gamadaya:
1st party is what is going to matter in the future. We all know Nintendo and Sony have better 1st party developers than Microsoft.

DigitalHero

I've always loved exclusive games not because I get to brag but because they never suffer from being a crappy port. I can not count the number of times I have played a game that was multi-platform to be disappointed by the lack of features, horrible bugs, or frame rate performance.

Lets just hope that SquareENIX is spending equal time developing on both consoles and taking the hardware's weaknesses and pluses to consideration.

On a side note, that's always why I hated the argument that one console has better graphics than the other. There is no way to judge because they are two different platforms and unless the engine is developed from the ground up to specifically run on a platform you are not going to get 100% out of it.

equalsP

@smuckers is good: If others catch wind of what I've done, I'm pretty sure I made my own deathbed... haha

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

@jfm3: I think you figured out what i was trying to say.

Anyway, whats with this "correction" feature? is it Firefox3?

papero3

I've always been more interested in Versus than normal FFXIII but I think it's pretty lame that SE did this. Its ok to have some exclusive games and some multi-plat games but to change this after so long isn't right. And I hate the idea of no exclusives because we need competition between consoles and exclusives foster that competition.

donquijote23

it's an RPG, the darkest final fantasy ever made with a main character that's never been done before with amazing graphics and real time battle system. That's what versus is.

mikeevd

@Trowble (XBL/PSN): OMG DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE!! Run they'll be upon like a pack of ravenous wolves!!

smuckers is good

@smuckers is good:
Same here. It would mean that I don't have to buy both consoles. I'm getting fucking sick and tired of all the people saying 3rd party games should remain exclusive. That's just rediculous. Why can't everyone play them?

gamadaya

@smuckers is good: You are not alone. ^_^

fulldamage

A trip to the past.

How dare they release Final Fantasy VII for the PC! That's a Playstation title and only Playstation should have it! The world is ending in flames, what will we do with ourselves by having more options to play games on what we want?

What do you mean Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest are on MX2? How dare they!
Metal Gear on the Famicom/NES! Shocking! Outrageous! SNAAAAKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Agito would be nice to have on the DS or Live Arcade though. Get to it Nintendo and/or Microsoft, offer them money.

Kenofthedead

"Stay strong, console warriors. We think it'd be best to resign yourselves to the fact that third party console exclusives are but a thing of the past and that both Xbox 360 and PS3 owners will be enjoying the title by 2012."

Well, now console DLC exclusivity will be taking over for console game exclusivity.

So now one version will be worse than the other version, while before you had one version that was just good.. Like GTAIV will be fun again on 360, but will continue to be boring on PS3 (after the story is over)..

Gjerven

The very game era today makes me hate exclusivity, it only adds fuel to the fanboy-fire, but even that doesn't help when side-by-side comparisons are thrown on the table.

Exclusivity was only good in the days of graphic-bits and mascots. Now it's all about framerates, franchises, download content and innovation.

With that being said, for the sake of killing the storm (somewhat) that comes after the calm, I hope FFVs13 comes out for the 360. Hell, I hope it even comes out for the PSP, DS, Wii and even the iPhone, iPods and Zunes. I'll even make the shit hit the fan and hope for God of War and Mario across all platforms.

I think I just added more fuel to that fire I was talking about.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

@papero3: What is a president docent? The tour guide who translates what Squeenix's Wada-san is trying to say?

jfm3

@DigitalVirus: we're waiting for out press conference to pwn too..we'll have our time.

DCPlayaPride

@Libo: I seriously was on a lot of drugs at the time, im scared to play it now in case i actually do like it, in which case i'll have no more weak excuses to blame.

smuckers is good

@Spenze:
Yes it has. It's just as vague as the other. It takes place in the same universe as the other FFXIII but this one is directed by Tetsuya Nomura (FF Advent, Kingdom Hearts I & II) while the other is directed by Yoshinori Kitase (FF6,8,10, etc etc).

DigitalHero

SE may want to go that route but until Mistwalker gets off its ass and decides they actually want to make money its still a big loss.

Sparx

Go on, keep doing it. Keep waiting it out. Sit on your hands until one system has 'all the games'. Starve the install base for the other. Keep going for 'just one more' game. Keep removing reason to buy the other console. Kill off the competition.

See what happens.

Bergerac

@CapnSpank: Heh, guess which one was the last one I actually playerd. Yup, VIII. Which, coincidentally, I enjoyed more than VII. IX Completely sucked though. My roommate bought it and I watched him play it to the point I just couldn't stand the story anymore.

PissedPS3Fan

@TheIrishNinja: Seriously, people need to stop trying to win incredibly cheap "points" over a mythical population of "enemy" gamers invested in other consoles and focus on how they themselves are affected by these decisions in the long run. Being a PS3 fan, I actually would like to see FFXIII Versus on the 360, as well as the other games, to complete the experience for those who were going to get the 360 version.

When did we turn into such a mindless, media-manipulated mob happy in gaming, the one hobby we all share, to do not as well as it could? Who loses when more people can play FFXIII? Who wins when Sony sells less consoles and has to cut back on development for their own internal projects? Grow up people.

Datheron

@PirateThom: You're right! This is clearly bad for the consumers! They should be forced into a choice and be denied titles for making that choice!

Instead of Sony keeping all the money, the developers see increased revenue from cross-platforming. So, the people who actually produce the product get more money and the license/hardware company sees less. Seems fair!

SAGoon987

What is FFXIII vs. any way? It's never really been explained has it?

Spenze

@Insane: Only something like the coming Armageddon could stem this monster of a fanboy tide. "Patience!?" they'll cry, "in what beastly tongue doth this barbarian speak!", then they crucify the poor, rational, soul and set him alight with the flames of their idiocy...

smuckers is good

oh noes, now MORE people get to play the game, MORE money is made for the developer and publisher, and MORE gamers are happy.

Let's all cry for Sony. // sarcasm.

DigiMish

@smuckers is good: What were you taking at the time? LSD? Ice? You were having a hallucination, there is no other explanation.

Libo

@TheIrishNinja: I love you.
Thank you for being one of the few level-headed people on the internet.

TheCleaningGuy

@kspray-dad: Counting on the apocalypse too? xD

branny

@tsukasa1288: QFT

Just like I don't think BioShock or Mass Effect should come to PS3, Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy shouldn't come to 360.

Consoles are defined by their exclusives and bar Gears of War on 360 and Metal Gear Solid 4 on PS3, there's been nothing of note this gen so far that isn't multiplatform.

It's a sad day when people want to see games on every platform for the wrong reasons.

PirateThom

The only way Sony can save face tomorrow is by showing off the first footage of God of War 3.

Korey

@PissedPS3Fan: You stopped caring 8 years ago... I stopped caring after Final Fantasy VIII what a coincidence.

CapnSpank

@papero3: Oh, surely, he will present them. Being exclusive to PS3, too. To be released in late 2009.

Then, at E3 next year, both will be announced to go multi platform and scheduled for release in 2010.

Candlejack

Clearly that picture is fake, not enough zippers on that character.

NattyIce

@Insane: I dunno man... I can hardly think of anything Sony could announce in their Conference which would overshadow this.

iamcool388

The Xbot's may get gut punched by news at Sony's Press Event tomorrow. We all know Yoichi Wada showed up at Sony and Microsoft's Press Conference in 2005 so it could happen again. I hope to God Microsoft does not get VERSUS XIII.

DigitalHero

@kspray-dad: how old are you, 99? either that or you're infected with foxdie. :P

to be quite frank, i don't give a rat's hiney abut this FF13 news from today. was it shocking? Sure! (im a walking contradiction) . at the end of the day SE wants to print money like everybody else. at least now everyone can enjoy FF13. this gen of consoles will be defined by the 1st party offerings.

zanzibarlegend

Yesterday, though, we would've said the same things about XIII. It's all a waiting game, now.

But good on Square-Enix. More money, larger audience. Hopefully the third-party exclusive system is dead for good.

wild homes stars in "the sourceress"

@avonkalgon: um im sorry and i dont like to admit it, in fact, im loathe to admit it (but thanks to the anonymity of the internet admit it i shall), but i kinda, well, liked ffX2...there i said it...I cant be the only one...can i?

smuckers is good

Rofl. I find it funny that Nintendo stepped out of the console wars on this one. I don't know if they wanted to stand out, or blend in the background for the other demographics. No one seems to care as much about poor ol' Wii.

Furude

@Solid_hedgehog:Nomura said that the main character (pictured) would be the most energetic main character ever in a FF.

So much for being emo.

libregkd

Man that's a low blow tho. Moe. fo sho.
ok i'll stop.

IntelSilver

@AznSlackerType: yea, i'm about to that point as well. if i say anything i will just be swamped by a bunch of xbox fanboys who will tell me to quit bawwing. i own all three consoles, but i still don't like the direction squarenix has went with this. games always have the potential to do better when they are exclusive.

tsukasa1288

I think we will know tomorrow at the Sony press, but if i had to guess....
If the main game "jumped in" why would this spinoff remain as an exclusive.

P.S.
If SquareEnix president docent present KH3 or FF7 on the Sony press im gonna die a little inside.

papero3

I prefer this game over FFXIII, the whole setting is much more appealing to me (maybe I'm a closet emo?). Exclusive or not, I'll be getting it either way. Ahh, the joys of owning every console, perhaps I'll get FFXIII on the 360 to make it fair. I remember the last time I neglected my 360 (MGS4), it had a fit and the drive died. It's a spoiled little brat, I tell ya.

Libo

Guys guys ...

Can't you just wait a bit ?

just till Sony's conference ?

the most retarded thing is to judge everything by everything that happened today ...

btw even the "versus" being exclusive won't calm the Fanboy Rage ! (AkA the F You SE campaing!)

i would actually understand the stupid fanboys as loads of the publishers actually including the "SE" just sent a "screw you" message to sony and all the fans

but yet again, JUST WAIT TILL ALL THE CONFERENCES END

then i'd be joining your stupid "F YOU ..." campaings :P

Insane

Well, Sony still has the exclusive on the good Final Fantasy.

Arsenicberyllium

@TheIrishNinja: If there were no fanboys, i shudder to think what might become of the internet, interesting game announcements followed by rational and intelligent discussion? I think that the universe would collapse in on itself.

smuckers is good

@TheJ3ff: Ah but competition keeps the console makers honest. Do you think Microsoft would have bothered with extending the warranty if they didn't have the fear that people would migrate to something else?

MehGinla

@DigitalVirus:
"Sony fans seem a bit quiet today? What gives? lol. "

First of all, don't ask for trouble. Second, Sony's Press Conference is tomorrow.

DigitalHero

I don't know if a console monopoly should be a thing to be wanted. And making almost every game a multiplatformer quickly resolves in making one platform utterly redundant. I'm in favor of the 360, but I certainly don't want it to be the only console on the market. Nothing good comes out of capitalistic reign without competition. Hurray for the Wii!

Rianq

I just feel bad for the people who bought PS3s instead of an Xbox 360 for this game. Missed out on a lot of great games for nothing.

Korey

I'm more interested in Versus that the normal XIII....but ive lost any confidence in that being exclusive. Nothing would surprise me now.

TriFF51

haha final fantasy XIII is being developed by the X2 team... hahahahaha we all know how "good" that was

hahahah

avonkalgon

what about the Wii, the console sold more than xbox360 and ps3, why cant it deserve some SE love...

eilegz

Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck about the "exclusivity" of the newest Final Fantasy games? I personally stopped caring about the series about 8 years ago...

PissedPS3Fan

Only Sony and MS should care if it goes to 360. Us gamers should just be happy we can play the game.

Although it does suck that some of us bought PS3s for these games and we just got kicked SQUARE in the balls.

Get it? SQUARE!? Lol omgz.

MetaKz

@kspray-dad: haha...sad but possibly true.

TheIrishNinja

@ZetaCrossfire: i hope your mom does. you see what i did there?!

as for Mcwhertor:

Stay strong, console warriors. We think it'd be best to resign yourselves to the fact that third party console exclusives are but a thing of the past and that both Xbox 360 and PS3 owners will be enjoying the title by 2012.

good advice. seriously, today's been pitiful; between x-box fanboys laughing and prodding, and sony ones crying betrayal and saying they wont buy the game now.

to the former: if you were only interested in a PS3 for FF XIII alone, that's pretty weak, but hey, congrats on saving a lot of money, seriously. that's gotta feel good.
But this "nails in the coffin" talk is ridiculous; that's like saying all MS has to offer is Halo. This fall's lineup alone looks amazing for the PS3.
unless youve got stock in MS, you should really try some of these games out..albeit, after the next price-cut.

to the latter:: you didnt "lose" anything! you're still getting what looks like an awesome game for uh, late '09 maybe? and im on a limb here, but likely the better version off the bat since it was originally built around the PS3. A great looking game's been shared, but nothing lost.

seriously, imagine, just for a minute, a world without fanboys. we'd all be universally celebrating shit like this.

TheIrishNinja

Anyone else get the feeling SO4 is going to be the next multiplat game to be announced by Square?

libregkd

Who cares? I mean really. A spin off with emo characterS? :/

Solid_hedgehog

You can't help but be disappointed but w/e, still gonna buy it and play it

Maestar

With all the crap I've read today...I'm speechless.

AznSlackerType

I'm still wondering if XIII on the 360 is possible... I mean LO looked okay... but FF... damn.... 6 disks?

Nets_Fan

Isn't this one supposed to be like kingdom hearts? if so, then i'd also like to see it come to 360.

smuckers is good

@kspray-dad: ROFL

@GLaDOS: Oh I get it. That's what they meant with market research. Well played SE, well played.

Candlejack

as a playstation owner im fine as long as it doesnt become a 360 exclusive. Im actually more excited about this one than i am about ff xiii. I personally don't really care who gets to play what game, as long as I can play it, but at the same time, Sony f'ed this one up, they should have had a contract signed to keep it exclusive. But what else is new about sony.

madbassman39

"will be enjoying the title by 2012" isn't that the truth.

drywaller79

Making people pay hundreds of dollars to play a few games is gay, there should be just one counsel so gamers can stop wasting money.

TheJ3ff

Ah, i really hope that this whole 3rd party exclusive bullshit is ending soon. I really am quite tired of it. I'm heartened to see that companies like SE see the benefit in giving their fans the chance to play their games regardless of which console they choose. Now, when is FFXIII coming to wii?

smuckers is good

Versus is not even dated (there's just a possible 2009 release, whereas FFXIII is coming out in 2009). Just wait until next year's E3 and then the 'megaton' FFvsXIII coming to the 360.

GLaDOS

Thank gawd I'll be dead by then.

kspray-dad

yea.... it probably won't stay exclusive.

feartheraven

Sony fans seem a bit quiet today? What gives? lol.

DigitalVirus

What's the point in Versus being exclusive then? It was always doomed to be overshadowed by FF13 so now you make it even less likely to succeed Square? Way to go.

I say go multi on that one, as well.

Candlejack

I hope it comes to the 360

ZetaCrossfire

D'awww :(

Mearns

@donquijote23:
I see where you're coming from, and I know that this upsets a lot of PS3 buyers in the west because now it's hard to justify their choice of console, look at it this way. One side was complaining because Square wouldn't do the sensible thing and release 13 on the 360 and make more money while letting more people play the game, and the other side is now complaining because their decision is less justified. I know it sucks to make the wrong decision when buying a console. It's happened to me a lot. I fact, every generation I have bought a console except maybe this one. But the solution is to either suck it up or sell and buy the other console. Bottom line is, people who seem to complain because others are having fun kind of come off as dicks, even if they are not (entirely).

gamadaya

@gamadaya: I think its on its way though in a year or two it should probably be about as good as live. But as a college student who's only working part time it was a little much at the time to pay 600 bones. Really it was like you said, the gut feeling that a lot of the game franchises i loved on my ps2 would probably make their way to 360, so here we are and i guess we made a decent decision.

smuckers is good

@smuckers is good: Heh, if I get some of that ice cream, I'm with you :D

Candlejack

@donquijote23:

See my above post. I am always happy when more people get to play a good game. And if you are angry at someone then don't be angry at the company who made a sound business move. Be angry at the company who has let their AAA titles slip away from them this generation. Although, they are still coming out with cool new stuff as well.

LORDofDANCE

@Makidian:
I wouldn't worry about it taking more time to come out. Localization takes like half a year minimum for FF games anyway. I think they can get the 360 version done before that. If it was coming out simultaneously in Japan though, that would be a different story.

gamadaya

@ƒox:

Oh no, I got the post. And what it amounts to is childish bullshit from someone who is trying to disguise his hate of a console by changing terminology. Seriously, read his past posts. If there is one thing positive about the 360 written in there it is so hidden Sherlock Holmes couldn't find it.

I'm happy whenever good games go to other consoles. I was happy when BioShock was announced for PS3. Good...more people get to play it.

He is a little man who can't accept that a good series can now be played by more people. It is why he went on that infantile rant and why others are agreeing with him. A bullet in the PS3's arsenal was removed and now people like him are angry. They don't want to be seen as fanboys so they reconfigure their anger into something that seems mature. But it's not. It's a poor act that is childish at best, sad at worst.

LORDofDANCE

@LORDofDANCE:

And people like you make me angry for not seeing how YOU are being selfish. You are happy because YOU are getting a prize. You get to play FFXIII now. Can't you see how this hurts someone who bought a PS3 with the idea that this was one of the exclusive game for it and now find out that their decision was based on false info?

A world with one console or no 3rd party exclusives would be horrible. One console = monopoly = games all suck.
Multiple console w/o 3rd party exclusives = no personality for any consoles = HARDER choice for most consumers as only difference between consoles is manufacturer name and slight differences in tech specs.

donquijote23

@gamadaya: They are a pretentious lot of fucktwats, but i do lurve how my macbook does make me feel like im better than everyone else

(just kidding, this fuckin thing is nice but god forbid i want to do anything with 3D graphics that happened after the year 2000, fucking integrated graphics using motherfuckers *sigh*)

smuckers is good

@zanzibarlegend: I think he was talking about the whole... world ending in 2012 dealio... maybe...
or he plans to kill himself.

shade-black

@smuckers is good:
I could afford it at the time, but I just had to go with my gut feeling and not with what console I actually thought was best. PS3 does trump 360 in almost ever way imaginable hardware wise. It's just the software and online service it's lacking. Actually, PSN seem ok. Not Live good, but still great for being free.

@MentalNote:
I thought so, but a lot of people are ripping on MS for what may not be true.

gamadaya

I don't think third party console exclusives are a thing of the past quite yet. FFXIII has been in development a long time, so if Square Enix releases this game on Xbox 360 and PS3 in America, they have a much larger target audience and therefore a much greater opportunity to recoup their losses. Development isn't cheap and this game has been worked on for a really long time, so they have to turn a profit somehow. As for their other RPGs, they haven't taken as long to work on as FFXIII so there's no announced plans to port them either. If Project Sylpheed, Infinite Undiscovery, and Star Ocean: The Last Hope started to cost too much I wouldn't be surprised if they got ported to PS3 (especially for Japan) to help recoup losses and turn a profit.

It's probably cheaper and easier to develop and release a game for a single console, but potentially more profitable to develop and release for multiple consoles to target a larger group of consumers. A small cost and small profit can end up being the same as a large cost and a large profit in the long run. As long as third party exclusives can still turn a profit on whatever console they're developed on, there will still probably be exclusive titles.

天雷

@smuckers is good: shit, doesn't "it doesn't matter". goddamn they really need to add an edit post button

smuckers is good

@ƒox:
Nothing's wrong with liking Apple. My first PC was a Mac, and I loved the thing. But you have to admit that Apple fanboys are among the worst and most illogical. How else would the Macbook Air have been created?

gamadaya

@gamadaya: Thats more or less why i chose 360, i actually wanted a ps3 myself, but the initial $600 price tag was out of my budget, and all my friends had a 360 anyway, so that was that. But overall i've been more than satisfied with my choice. Definitely more happy about the stuff i've been getting, than the stuff i'm currently missing out on. But once i get a ps3 it will all be mine...MUA HA HA HA!!

smuckers is good

@gamadaya: Don't get me wrong I'm just speculating

MentalNote

@Kanti_V2
Freakin' brilliantly said! Add me on PSN if you got the room, I need more people like you on my friends list.
This whole thing doesn't piss me off because it's coming to the 360, it's because the plan is pure shit. I have to wait to play it so they can make it for the 360, at least that's they way it may go down but maybe not, and vXIII isn't but it will go to 360 by E3 next year, and Star Ocean is coming to the PS3 on the same day as the 360 version, and Infinite Undiscovery is getting a Wii port. It's all so crazy I don't now up from down anymore

Makidian

@jmsalal:
That reminds me, I'm really looking forward to any possible announcements of a 360 MGS4 port. XIII will most likely be a dual layer Blu-ray, yet they can get it on the 360. Plus, with MS appearing to phase out non HDD 360s, it would be a perfect time to announce a port. And Kojima seems to like the 360 well enough too. Now they just have to find a way to get all that Sony and Apple marketing out of the game.

gamadaya

Who own an Xbox that likes FF? Probably will sell well on the system just b/c it was sony exclusive, the same thing for GTA, they buy the game, play it for a week and trade it, they are no fans. Off course some are fans, but 95% buy b/c they hate sony or they want Xbox to look good for third party developers.

jocaju

sorry for double post...

Firesoul1

how on gods green earth
is FFXIII going to fit
on regular DVDs...? wait...
scratch that... rather ask,
How many DVDs will it consume...?
i say 2 blu-rays tops...
and good luck for sony on tomorrows
presentation...

Firesoul1

@LORDofDANCE: I think the missed the entire point of his post.

ƒox

@Kanti_V2, gamadaya, GrandfatherParadox: *posts from MacBook Pro*

Hey, what's wrong with liking Apple products?

*sobs*

I agree with ya Kanti. The very first thing that went through my mind after the announcement was "Oh God, the fanboys are going to have a fucking field day with this." It's sad.

ƒox

@Candlejack: That is fucked up about the open source shit. Your probably right, (probably more than right). But since this is a pipe dream of mine, it just so happens that in my fantasy land we all still get excellent titles borne from the competition between development houses, at a fair and reasonable price, with free online, ...and a magical ice cream dispenser that follows each and every one of us, and the flavor of the day is always..WISHES!!! :)

smuckers is good

@MentalNote:
Once again, do we have confirmation that MS paid for this. I can't find this anywhere.

gamadaya

@Kanti_V2:

It's funny hearing people complain about things like this. You attack a group of people and then you call an entire company assholes because they brought a good game series to their console. WTF is wrong with you?

You still get to play the game...now grow up and act like a mature person. Or is that too hard for you and your infantile rants?

P.S.- it's not a sport...it's business.

LORDofDANCE

It'll certainly be interesting to see if future releases are multi-plat. I personally don't mind as long as this doesn't mean squeenix is gonna get slack on it's console specific scripting.

I can just imagine how the acquisition of FFXIII went down...
Squeenix: Look, it's a PS3 exclusive OK. If you want it, it's going to cost you a bazillion dollars.
Microsoft: Ok... Deal.
Squeenix: Huh... What?!?! Err Ok.

MentalNote

Squeenix really needs to kill the exclusive element of their marketing. The PS3 is a great media center, as far as a gaming console, not so much. The 360 already has essentially every franchise sans MGS (for now), and its library is certainly the healthiest. If Squeenix wants Versus XIII to be a shadow of the success of its predecessor (XIII), they really need to just go multi-platform with all of their titles.

jmsalal

how on gods green earth is
FFXIII going to fit on
regular DVDs...? scratch that, rather ask, how many DVDs...?
I say 2 blu-rays tops... and good luck for
sony on tomorrows presentation...

Firesoul1

@Kyolux:

I agree with that. It makes me angry seeing how selfish people on here are. Great games should be experienced by everyone and now, because of this, I can experience FF13 and save myself some cash from not buying a PS3.

LORDofDANCE

@Kanti_V2: Wow, I wish you could see yourself.

Guild_Navigator

@Candlejack:
Yeah, and that's why I wouldn't buy a 360 in that universe. I was originally going to get a PS3, but when I saw a lot of 3rd party titles going 360, I picked one up. I'd much rather have a PS3 with all of those titles and Sony titles as well.

gamadaya

@Firesoul1: very good point. Is ff13 for 360 going to be a 12 dvd game? at least ps3 users get bluray, right?

but why the big fuss? ps3 isn't losing FF13, it just has to share with 360.

I wonder what additional costs squenix is paying to have ff13 done up for the 360 along-side ps3. If the 360 version's sales are enough to offset the additional costs of production incurred by simultaneous 360 development, then making ff13 available for 360 will be a great decision. But will those 360 sales result in higher profits margins for the franchise? Based off the different demographics that each console sells to, I don't expect many 360 owners to buy ff13 to own. As far as I have seen, most 360 owners i know bought their console for madden, halo or EA sports 2k-something.

but can't everyone just be happy that ff13 is on its way?

kevlarkevin

@gamadaya:

I was also wondering if they payed. I think they did since there is no good reason to make StarOcean4 an 360 exclusive.(well other than MS bag of money)

And i think i came up with the best business plan for Square
(No fanboyism here, im freaking serious):
-Announce a game as a PS3 exclusive(Lets say Kingdomheart 3)
-Hype the game for 1-2 years
-1 year before release ask MS for a good 50 millions
-Enjoy 2x sales since its Multiplatform
-Everybody wins even Microsoft

What do you guys think? :D

papero3

@Amazon_Chris:
I'm not a PS3 owner and I don't care that much about FF, but I share your sentiments. It was a dick move by Square.

gamadaya

@TheIrishNinja: Great comment! /Nominated.

LeLoi

@eviladrian:
You'd better be crossing them pretty fucking hard for that to happen. Also, I could never get into Kingdom Hearts. It may have a great combat system, but I just can't get over the fact that you are FIGHTING alongside Goofy and Donald.

gamadaya

@ƒox: Thanks

JokesJokes

Square, stop beating around the bush! Just come out and actually tell us, straight up, no lie, no "I had my fingers crossed", no bull shit, whether this game is exclusive or not. Don't pull another FFXIII by telling us for two years that it is and then pull the rug out from under us.

Amazon_Chris

@JokesJokes: It's a seperate story that takes place in the same universe and the battle system is sorta like Kingdom Hearts.

ƒox

Wait what's the difference in versus and regular? What will you do in versus? I haven't been following the games at all because I don't care for the series because I hate hate hate random battles. Yeah,this news doesn't affect me at all.

JokesJokes

@gamadaya: Kingdom Hearts III: 360 Edition, I'm crossing my fingers...

eviladrian

@ƒox:
Don't put money on Killzone 2 just yet.

gamadaya

@eviladrian:
lol, I totally agree with you. A lot of people do like the old spreadsheet gameplay of classic FF, but I'm not one of them.

gamadaya

@mcmurder: . . . . . . .it has free online, built in wireless, exclusive PSN titles, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, God of War III, White Knight Chronicles, Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles, Final Fantasy Versus XIII and a shitload of multiplat games.

That's what you were going to say, right?

ƒox

@doing: dude i think its great and all, but there is like a thousand fucking comments on the ff13 to 360 post. Its the most goddamn craziest thing i've seen, its like more people were upset about this than the re5 racism posts. there's a lot of crazies getting their panties in a twist, though i would say you are definitely right about nobody that matters will care if SE goes multiplat.

smuckers is good

@gamadaya: It's just people pulling information out their asses. I always find it funny when people say Microsoft are up to no good, but never mention a particular person when it comes to shady affairs. "Micro$oft" are money grubbers!!!11 Really? I didn't know they were a single sentient individual. People need to take off their tin-foil hats and bring evidence before making solid accusations.

@Topic: Hashimoto can't possibly expect people to believe this after the bomb they dropped today? They sure love to tug on heartstrings don't they. Either way, I'll wait. They can take as much time as they want to potentially kick fanboys in the crotch again. I've got plenty to tide me over, and whether they decide to make this game multi-platform as well doesn't effect me.

KeroseneClimax

Well, I always thought it would've been MGS4 that made it to the 360 and not Final Fantasy for some strange reason (it having gone there already with MGS2). FF actually surprised me. I'm not against games being multiplatform, but it's BS for them to claim a game will be exclusive to one console, then decide to make it multiplatform. It screws the consumer when they make a decision based on this announcement.

Voteforme2020

This announcement is great. It makes even the calmer among us to over react.

nou_phabmixay

@mcmurder: that's what sucks about the ps3, man. if you dont bother playing any other games, you're left with ellipses.

TheIrishNinja

So is Versus the one where they make the movement and combat actually fun like Kingdom Hearts? That's the one they *should* put on 360!
Who outside of Japan still cares about all that "Attack->Kobold->Groin" crap?

eviladrian

I've got a PS3 and a 360 and personally I think it's hilarious in the most bitter way possible. PS3's a good Blu-Ray player, and MGS4 is awesome. Besides that, uh . . . . . . .

mcmurder

Looks like everything is heading in a good direction...

Maybe by the time next-gen rolls around I'll only have to buy one friggin' console.

nomadder

SE make up your damn mines up already. You are 3rd party, no ones gonna get their panties in a twist because you go multiplat in todays market.

doing

Versus is still going to ship? That would be news.

Mongoosekun

1. Good for 360 players.
2. It's frustrating to see Sony losing exclusives left and right, and hardly getting any of Microsoft's.
3. WTF is Sony doing? Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out..
4. If the next Shin Megami Tensei game goes 360 exclusive, I'll be dumbfounded. It's entirely possible, but I'll be really disappointed. Where are my Atlus games, Sony?

cio

@kevlarkevin: Yeah were all a bunch of halo breathin, nub humpin, game fuel junkies who dont have enough of an attention span to sit still for five seconds without incurring a seizure...aren't generalizations fun!

Im sure there were many ps2 fans like myself who got scared off of the ps3's gigantic price tag at launch and decided to go with something a bit more reasonable. I wouldn't be so positive that the game wont sell, capcom said DMC4 sold well on 360, hell i bought it. I know you weren't being a dick, just saying that with all the other jrpgs on 360 i'll bet SE knows that the game should put up decent numbers, otherwise whats the point? But yay like you said lets just be happy that ff13 is on the way.

smuckers is good

Some story telling, followed by a few opinions:

I have a friend that bought a PS3 during launch, only for Final Fantasy XIII. She bought it at that expensive launch price of $599.99 when it first came out, hoping that Final Fantasy XIII would warrant the purchase. She hasn't bought a single PS3 game for it, but continues to play PS2 games, convinced that she will need no other PS3 game until FFXIII arrives. I called her today and told her the news, and she started to cry... I laughed really hard when I heard her sobbing over the phone!

I told her that it was still coming out to PS3, but she's about to sell her PS3, and buy herself a 360, and PS2. This is what I probably should of done, because now after buying the Gun Metal PS3 just to play MGS4, that's pretty much all I have for the system, aside from a few PSN titles. If it had the backwards compatibility, I'de probably be playing it all the time, because I love PS2 games. I was very anti Microsoft before the PS3 came out, but then after looking at the games that came out over the next 6 months, and seeing all my friends and family playing 360 games, I picked up a 360 and couldn't be happier. My Xbox 360 has actually brought myself closer to family members I hadn't seen in awhile. My father, brother, cousins, and myself can all enjoy a game of CoD4, GTA4, or whatever game is our flavor of the month. I picked up a Gun Metal PS3 because I really wanted to play MGS4, and Hideo Kojima himself signed it. I've bought Heavenly Sword, Resistance, and Uncharted. I traded in all those games within a week to get Ninja Gaiden 2, Devil May Cry 4 (360), and Arcana Hearts, for when I purchase a PS2 again.

You can argue Blu-Ray HD movies, you can argue free online play, you can even put backwards compatibility for the PS3s that support it, but I do regret owning a PS3, and after hearing about the news today from E3, it seals the deal for me at least. I don't recommend people that already have PS3s get rid of them just because of this announcement, if anything, get rid of your PS3 because none of the games appeal to you, or because it's time to move on. Get whatever system suits your taste, but also be aware of what games are available for it, and if they aren't available at that moment, take a note of when they will be. Gaming isn't the cheapest hobby in the world, so also take that into consideration.

Square-Enix is also probably doing what's best for their company as a whole. I'm sure the company is probably aware that there is alot of fan-backlash right now, but in all honesty, they have a product that people are going to buy either way, so screw the minority of people that are upset about this! Final Fantasy XIII has been talked about and worked on for several years now, and during this time, they have had many chances to watch how the console war has been going. Porting the game to 360 for EVERYONE to buy and enjoy their game. And anyway, I highly doubt people over at Square-Enix are going to like the possible idea of having to downsize the company, because the game they've put so much money into has a low install base for said console. They have all their bases covered for right now, so if any of you were true Final Fantasy fans, knowing that the game would reach more people who never would of otherwise seen it should be good news.

I'm hoping not all of you are too young to remember about the days when people used to argue about SNES and Genesis exclusives. I'm kinda starting to miss those days now, and i'm only 23...

And IMO, The only Final Fantasy game that SE needs to worry about remaking, is Final Fantasy VI, and that's it! Final Fantasy was alright in the beginning, but I preferred imagining what happened between those 500 years in between the time that the Meteor was supposed to hit.

Sorry, I didn't mean to make this a long wall of text, or a blog, it just happened. If you reached this point of the post, thanks for reading.

IDS3

* quite a few discs you'll need to change out

PlasmaMachine

Trying to decide which version to get.. on one hand there's the 360 version which will have quite a few you'll need to change out. And on the other hand you have the PS3 version which will probably just be on one Blu-Ray, but just as frequent installations (i.e. MGS4) Soo Multiple discs, or multiple installations? Seems like the same thing to me. I tend to favor the 20 seconds it takes to get up and change a disc over the 3-5 minute installs.

PlasmaMachine

I'm more interested in versus XIII too, only because the directors said it wouldn't follow the typically RPG happy happy traditions...

Ah well, port in 2 years or PS3 if i'm rich enough

Ultrasinc

@TheJ3ff:
You're a complete idiot.

sean09

@kevlarkevin: by far im a final fantasy fan. im not mad that its on 360, but wouldn't
you think its a bit too inconvenient for the costumer
to have that many disks for just one game...
and besides the 360 is in dire need of help in japan...

just one more question, what about tri-ace...?
do they have anything for the ps3 yet...?

Firesoul1

@doing: 100% agree with you there. SE had no reason to hold back this info for as long as they did, and im sure there were plenty a SE fan on the fence (like myself) who were basing at least part of their console choice on that game. But like i said there are plenty of games on both systems that any reasonable gamer who wants to buy a single console should take into consideration before taking the plunge. Thing is, if you really wanted the games on 360 and just decided to buy a ps3 only for ff13 then your priorities might have been misaligned, and if you bought a ps3 for the 1st party ps3 games and ff13 you should still be stoked about your decision. But i understand what you're getting at, and like you said with so many companies going multiplat this gen they should have been straight with their fans from the get-go. Whatever, im just glad that i'll be able to play one of the games that i did not think would be coming to the 360. With this and chrono trigger its like they've been probing my innermost desires.

smuckers is good

@doing:
well said

donquijote23

@gamadaya: I loved that game, then i quit getting high all the time and thought jesus christ why the hell are donald and goofy in my party. Though, the actual gameplay and combat was pretty money.

smuckers is good

@smuckers is good:

Yeah there are quite a few upset people.

The console fanboys are nuts but really there is no reason or logic with that group so a lost cause.

On the other hand there is the SE fans who might feel lied to after listening to SE tell them FF13 is PS3 exclusive for awhile. But really they would have been more then understanding had SE just announced FF13 as multi plat because as a 3rd pary developer in the current economics, it allows them to maximize market penetration and profit.

Then there is me. I don't feel much anger but eye rolling annoyance by the fact they are pussy footing around like this.

I mean all this sinanigan for attention whoring.

doing

@Korey: That kind of talk is pitiful. You think maybe some of us didnt get an Xbox because of the fact we didnt want one. Jesus christ i can't stand retard fanboys that lay out the flamebait.Like everyone el;se is saying Multiplat games are seriously downgraded to perform "well" on all plats not "great" and exclusive would have made the game much better what ever side got it. Sure the storyline is there but the graphic won't be just look at GTA4 for an example it looks flawed as hell glitchy. So there is your LOLOL looky its going to xbox too thanks from everyone who give the fanboys the finger and tells them to get back on the shortbus.

Jopan

Well, the big thing is unless SE region locks it themselves PS3 owners can buy the japanese version, which could be why they are worried about less Western Market share.

But I see why they aren't releasing it for 360 in JP, look at the 360 numbers :(

gpturismo