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Prince of Persia Creator Working On New Karateka Game
Posted by Michael McWhertor at 5:20 AM on July 27, 2008
While the majority of Jordan Mechner's talk at Comic-Con earlier today focused on all things Prince of Persia, some fans veered slightly off-topic, picking the programmer's brain on his other titles — Karateka and The Last Express.
The former, Mechner's first commercial game, an early 2D fighter published by Brøderbund and known for its fluid animation, is planned to get an update (of sorts). Details on the Karateka project weren't provided, but Mechner teased the crowd by saying "I can safely say it's not going to be the way that you expect". He did, however, say he would be directly "involved", a claim he didn't make about Ubisoft's recent Prince of Persia releases.
Mechner also let the crowd in on the particulars of a hilarious Easter egg in the original Karateka.
Asked by a fan about two of the game's quirks — that Karateka could be played with the screen flipped upside down if the floppy was inserted the wrong way and if the "volcano" in the background erupted randomly, killing both fighters instantly — Mechner cleared up both. No, the one-in-a-million eruption was just a rumour, he said, but the inverted floppy trick was certainly by design.
One of the Karateka programmers handling copy protection discovered a way to flip the screen with a simple change to the bit table. The was still playable, but "really hard".
"We thought it would be hilarious if we burned the flipped version of the game to the other side of the disk", he recounted, thinking that Brøderbund execs wouldn't go for it "because it would require an assembly line change to actually burn the game onto both sides of the disk, which adds however many cents". In the end, they did go for it.
Mechner said he envisioned that someone would put the disk in upside down, then call tech support and get the explanation "Well, sir, you put the disk in upside-down".
"That person would think, for the rest of their life, that that's how software works".

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axel000
Posted 9:26 AM 27/7/08
Woo hoo :) I've been dreaming of a remake of Karateka ever since Prince of Persia was remade in 3d.
Hopefully this is an enhanced and lengthened version on XBL and PSN.
axel000
Denver80203
Posted 7:53 AM 27/7/08
Apple IIc was my platform.. 6th grade. I hope this is good. You're up against childhood memories
Denver80203
undeadmachine
Posted 7:48 AM 27/7/08
@paeper: i played it on commodore 64.
great game at the time, it blew the (tabi) socks off ye-ar-kung fu imo...
anyone remember an ascii side scrolling fighter with almost full screen characters? ill be damned if i can remember the name of it...
also, anyone remember 'nemesis'? it was a non-scrolling (single screen) beat-em-up where the bodies would pile up instead of disappearing.
interesting times those were...
undeadmachine
paeper
Posted 7:29 AM 27/7/08
I must've missed this game when it came out, but it's great it brings back so many memories for everyone. You guys are gonna make me track it down. What console was it for originally?
Oh and I also think it's great the makers had a sense of humor- enough to even bump up production costs for a good easter egg.
paeper
karateka
Posted 7:26 AM 27/7/08
Woahhhh....they're remaking me!!!! yeah baby. I knew karateka would be big some day. I guess I'm going to have to get this one when it comes out. I mean I am karateka :)
karateka
GrandfatherParadox
Posted 7:21 AM 27/7/08
Wow. This really takes me back.
I could really see this being an Xbox Live/PSN title.
Normally I hate remakes of games.....but this.....this is going to get much love from me.
GrandfatherParadox
loopholezero
Posted 7:14 AM 27/7/08
@underwhelm: if this wouldn't have happened, the universe wouldn't have no sense of humour at all. i trust this is not the case.
loopholezero
Vipre77
Posted 6:59 AM 27/7/08
I've only played the NES version of Karateka and, well, it sucked, IMHO.
Vipre77
Gam3r
Posted 6:54 AM 27/7/08
Wow, I never expected anything from this game again. I own a copy of the original.
Gam3r
hastyp
Posted 6:45 AM 27/7/08
Ahh...Grade 3. Our teacher had a computer in the classroom and let us play Karateka at noon and on breaks. First game I ever saw with blood. (When the gates kill you.) Mr. P even let us bring NES to school! Grade 3 was the best. Also I think the Canadiens won the Stanley Cup that year. Hmm...also Expo 86. Great year.
hastyp
Doctor_Memory
Posted 6:41 AM 27/7/08
Heh, yeah, it took me like 3 different tries before I realized that you had to drop out of fighting stance before actually touching the princess.
Hopefully Kareteka 2009 (or whatever it's called) will continue in its nad-stomping ways.
Doctor_Memory
SeedyROM
Posted 6:41 AM 27/7/08
F' the eagle. That is all.
SeedyROM
Synthemesc
Posted 6:31 AM 27/7/08
Karateka and Pitfall were sources of intense frustration in my childhood.
@sascha23:
I share your pain.
Synthemesc
Knoxximus (360/PSN)
Posted 6:15 AM 27/7/08
Great. Karatekaz: Martial Artz get!
Knoxximus (360/PSN)
Zorba
Posted 6:02 AM 27/7/08
Damn, those guys were fun at their job =).
I liked Karateka but didnt really finish it, always preferred Ninja Mission to it. Still, its a fun time to live in with such games remade
Zorba
KaneRobot
Posted 5:47 AM 27/7/08
A well-done, modern Karateka game would definitely interest me.
KaneRobot
Bakeroo
Posted 5:42 AM 27/7/08
Ah, The Last Express. A true gem, and a shame-- a damn shame-- that it got screwed with the advertising/publicity/Broderbund shakeup. Hell, I think I'll dig up the discs and reinstall it this weekend.
Bakeroo
sascha23
Posted 5:40 AM 27/7/08
I remember playing this on my Commodore 64 when I was a wee lad. It also makes me feel bloody old.
Ah, memories...
sascha23
banana_ridah
Posted 5:36 AM 27/7/08
A remake of Karateka?
All I remember was getting a kick in the junk from the damsel after fighting hordes of bad guys, a trained hawk, and the shogun.
Fucking bitch...
banana_ridah
Islandkiwi
Posted 5:34 AM 27/7/08
Oo, I hated that stupid eagle. Damn you, eagle!
Islandkiwi
wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
Posted 5:30 AM 27/7/08
I'd love a nice-looking remake of this. Maybe Karateka HD Remix? A boy can hope, right? Please, Jordan? This game is one of my favorite memories. I'd love to see a great-looking remake of this.
And of course, it's unrelated, but COMBAT HD Remix, too. Plaes!
wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
TackyLamp
Posted 5:29 AM 27/7/08
Putting a disk in upside-down means I can play the game upside-down?
More modern games need easter eggs like this.
TackyLamp
underwhelm
Posted 5:29 AM 27/7/08
I pray this actually happened.
underwhelm
Salen
Posted 5:28 AM 27/7/08
Hah! That's awesome. Karateka was an awesome game, and it's cool to get to hear little facts about games like that even now. Actually, I didn't know about that easter egg, except for that Princess kicks your brains in if you mess up at the end deal...
Salen
incredibilistic
Posted 5:27 AM 27/7/08
Wow. This screenshot takes me back to when I was like 12-years old and I had this game on floppy disk (the REAL floppy, black, skinny 5 1/4 disks) for my Commodore 64.
Good times.
incredibilistic
PsycheE
Posted 9:49 AM 27/7/08
One of the most played games in my "100 games in 1, but really half of them are the same game with different names" pack for some Korean rip off console.
It got as much playing time as "Antarctic Adventure". Yea, you know the penguin had some major air time.
PsycheE
ApocalypseVII
Posted 10:05 AM 27/7/08
God I hated that game. It wasn't that it was a bad game. I actually enjoyed it at first. And it wasn't cause it was ugly. It actually had some really beautiful animations which made me go "oooh!"
But the reason I hated that game...
It was impossible at times. I remember when I was younger I got stuck on some crap several screens in where something would fall on you. Yes, I could not be more vague but some memories in childhood we block out.
That's what my shrink said about my father and the naked man in the closet.
And Kareteka.
-Adam
ApocalypseVII
cihx
Posted 10:51 AM 27/7/08
frakkin' sweet! i loved this game along with all the clones when i had my commodore 64.
cihx
karl_hungus
Posted 10:59 AM 27/7/08
man, i have fond memories of getting my ass kicked in this game....i wonder if it would be one of those nostalgia influenced bad game buys (like half of my VC library), or if it would really be fun to play the original again.
im interested to see what they do with an update though.
karl_hungus
SigmundTheSeaMonster
Posted 12:57 PM 27/7/08
It was with Karateka that I soon began down the path to a potty mouth!
SigmundTheSeaMonster
jackal888
Posted 1:25 PM 27/7/08
I miss you Mariko.I saved you all those years ago. You never called, wrote, you kicked me in the head. I still miss you.
jackal888
Pornosaur
Posted 1:20 PM 27/7/08
Hardest game ever, but then again I could say the same about the original prince of persia. Maybe it was my keyboard's fault I dunno.
Pornosaur
onlysublime
Posted 1:42 PM 27/7/08
Did you play Karateka when you were 5??? It wasn't that hard. The hardest was definitely the eagle. After fighting him, the end boss was cake since he was way too aggressive and you just had to hold your ground and take him down.
But Mariko. Sigh. The first video game babe. She could take Lara Croft anytime. And that kick she did was lethal!
onlysublime
karateka
Posted 2:17 PM 27/7/08
I must say that nothing was more frustrating not even the falling gate or the eagle than mariko at the end. You make it all the way to the end only to be kick to death by that bitch... I tried many different ways to get close to her and again and again she kicked me to death. If only I could get my hands on her I would slap that bitch. In the end I got her...and let me tell you I'm the boss in the end...yeah, who's your daddy now bitch.
karateka
Iron_Cricket
Posted 3:39 PM 27/7/08
Karateka, The Last Ninja, Way of the Exploding Fist ... classic C64 stuff. It really takes me back.
... and yeah, Mariko broke more than my heart in our first meeting, too. Thankfully, the second encounter wasn't so painful.
Iron_Cricket
coladict
Posted 5:21 PM 27/7/08
Karateka is actually the very first video game to have a story AFAIK.
never managed to run it on a modern PC though...
coladict
DwindleFlip
Posted 5:29 PM 27/7/08
Great memories.
Karateka
World National Karate Champs
Bruce Lee
Choplifter
These games gave me endless fun on my atari computer.
DwindleFlip
dv8godd
Posted 9:18 PM 27/7/08
Oh hell yes... give me a new Karateka game. Ah, my teenage years.
You watch when it comes out: I'm going to go all Fallout-fanboy on it if they change anything!
"Why isn't this a side-scroller!?!? Why does it have more than 4 colors!?!? How come I can't fall backwards off the cliff!?!? Where's the eagle!?!? Intuitive, modern control scheme??? Where are my clunky keyboard controls?!? Voiced cut-scenes!?!?!? What the hell is with all this "story" and "plot" crap!?!? And why, oh why, the hell is it longer than 20 minutes!?!?"
Yeah... some good times ahead.
@karateka: I'm assuming by your name that you did eventually figure it out. I definitely shared your pain the first couple times... but it's so obvious when you finally do it right. :)
@wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!: Actually, a faithful XBLA + PSN version of the original would be quite nice, my snarky opening lines aside. I'd definitely buy.
dv8godd
dv8godd
Posted 10:39 PM 27/7/08
@coladict: Well... it's definitely not the first VG with a "story". RPGs, text adventures and the like had long preceded Karateka when it came to plot.
But it was very innovative in the way that it told it, especially considering it was an arcade-style title (not typically known for "story"): no dialog whatsoever, no text after the introduction but still a clear narrative, engaging cinematic presentation, seamless blending of cut-scenes into the gameplay that broke the game into sections without appearing to break it into "levels", etc.
Karateka's presentation of story was definitely an inspiration to the way things are done today...
... though I don't personally think any game has ever surpassed it in its ability to do so much with so little.
Anyone truly interested in videogame development/technology/history owes it to themselves to play through the game: once or twice for the pleasure, a few more times to really think about its construction.
dv8godd
Eltigro
Posted 12:08 AM 28/7/08
As long as the princess can still kick your ass, all is good.
Funny stuff about the upside down game.
Eltigro
basilafox
Posted 1:30 AM 28/7/08
Can't wait for The Last Express on DS, will finally give the game a chacne to shine.
basilafox
GOLD5
Posted 2:34 AM 28/7/08
They already made a remake of this game, it was called MK Shaolin Monks. Funny to think Karateka was the pinnacle of game graphics back then. I still remember being 'blown away' by it.
GOLD5
ManekiNeko
Posted 1:24 PM 28/7/08
I'm still wondering why the Jolly Green Giant was in a bootleg version of Karateka that I played on the X68000.
ManekiNeko
Werrick
Posted 12:06 AM 29/7/08
I loved Karateka, I played that game for hours and hours and hours. I could never get past the second stage, but it was a really fun game to play back in my boyhood.
Werrick
mariospants
Posted 2:30 AM 29/7/08
played it on my apple 2+ and on my friend's n64. I can still remember the music, the animation and the "hai!". It totally blew my mind at the time.
mariospants