wow... And I thought GT5 Prologue on DISC Installed too much.

I just can't believe MS would let them require HDD.
It sucks for all those little kids with no HDD 360s.
Hopefully MS won't do that too often
It's just isn't fair.

Oh well, I have 20GB 360 so...

Good thing I ordered a replacement HDD for PS3. Goodbye space shortage, Hello SoulCalibur IV

For me, It's YODA or VADER! A very hard choice if you ask me. I think I'm leaning towards VADER... but YODA... hm... I might have to get two copies... At least Soulcalibur 2 had Link to win me over on Gamecube, but this one is hard.

neo177117

@Azures: Don't care what his form is, fighting as him is boring. Much simpler and easy just to go up and slice people than jump around like a deranged elf.

Amazon_Chris

@Azures: Hate to be captain obvious, but, it's because it's a console and NOT a PC?

Hugoku

This is getting ridiculous.

hagridore

Oh great! First it was MGS4, now this? Oh well. Great game I can not wait to have my hands on it. :D

iCondemned

It's amazing what a possible typo could do.

Azures

They must need all that space for those obscenely huge breasts most of the women fighters are sporting there.

Ivy alone probably takes up half of the storage space.

Guvnah

Naturally, if X360 had anything other than a steering lock feigning to be a HDD, they'd lose their monopoly on storage to seagate and "shoot themselves in the foot".

And what's the point in shipping PS3 games with gigantic installs? Is this to say that the most powerful media whatever-it-is on earth can't handle disc streaming?

oskarkeo

so the boobs take up 8.5gb? gimme a break

shichi

Ugg... I can't wait to see PS3 installs in two years...

Mullet2000

the wii has not enough storage for ivy's bo...

mrt181

Now I Know why it didn't go to the Wii...

Megan Fox iz Hot ^-^ -ph15h

So will 360 fanboys start daning in happyness that they have manitory installs now?

Sailorcancer

I am with the what the heck could you store on 2GB side of this. I mean even if you could make a character that was customizable down to their nose hair how the heck would you play those characters online(match will start in 1 hr 30 min please wait...) that would be too much data to transfer. Maybe this is some kind of virtual pet thing Nights on the Saturn did this and it was a memory eater. "Ultra realistic build your own Dream Girl/Boy mode, you heard it here 1st".

Konchu

Wow, that's freaking awesome. :P I guess I'll be deleting a bunch of useless stuff. Gamesaves so far are only taking up like 200ish kb per save... so there should be tons of space for other crap.

I'm sure we'll all love it once we get past the Calibur-ation. <_<

MetaKz

@Azures:

"You can delete the game data installed to the hdd on games you no longer play and keep the save data. Reinstall it if you ever play again."

Sounds like the reasoning that lead to Nintendo's geeks and otaku comment. A one-time install isn't a big deal (though I couldn't imagine getting home with Halo 3 at 1AM and having to wait through 10 minutes of eternity as the game installed). Installing (or downloading) and deleting to save space over and over is a pain in the ass though.

The again, maybe I'm just getting old and surly. I don't like switching discs to play seperate games anymore.

GorbyGipper

Unless it's the most sophisticated character creation tool ever devised for a video game, 2gb of disk space sounds like ridiculously lazy programming.

exolstice

i can still remember the uproar sony made because the ps3 has the storage advantage because of blu-ray. seems the devs give a shit about blu-ray space when they can use faster hdd space. i love those sloppy devs.

has anyone tried to use one of those turbo expensive ssd's in the ps3?

mrt181

Well hey, that sealed the deal with me not buying this game. I was already not wanting to get it because of Street Fighter 4. It seems like Soul Calibur is just a gimmick of itself these days anyway.

Sollus

No. Just no. I am a huge Soul Calibur fan but I refuse to buy it if I am forced to deliver extortionate amounts of HDD space for absolutely nothing.

What did installation do for GTA4, DMC4, Vegas 2 and every other installation-required game? Not a god damn thing. The games played the same (if not worse) as their 360 counterparts. And considering us in the PAL region are limited to the 40gb model I am not pleased that I have to sacrifice my media and saves just for the liberty of playing a game.

This better be a fucking rumour.

Frequen-Z

8.5 Gigs . . . For all of that, Taki better get down on knees and do some fun stuff after losing a match. I'd also prefer that everyone sings the lyrics to "Triumph" by Wu-Tang Clan while they fight, too.

enigma89

@beem: Why did my friend have to route a 50 ft broadband cable across his house just to play Halo 3 online? Why did the 360 not come with a wireless adapter in today's world?

Strife is part of this gen, each console has its own. Unfortunately.

Azures

Good news for 360 owners. Maybe this will be the begining of the end of the whole "can't requre a hard disk" thing that only bubbled up due to production cost issues.

GorbyGipper

Nice Ivy under-boob shot. Hopefully the space is the installation of unlockable non-exclusive Vader on 360 and Yoda on PS3... Namco is missing a lot of revenue if they don't at least allow people to buy them for a couple bucks.

zymase

Glad I bought that 320gb replacement!

Fox

@Azures:
Why should people have to go through all of that just to play a game?

beem

Which means i've got enough room to install it so everything is still okay!

weasl

Thats a big install. they must be HUGE breasts

Gypse-scum

Well
The boobs are worth it
he he he
Plus
I'm pretty sure that once people pop in the game, they'll play it obssessively for a long time. So that's a justification for the large install space.

pulyx

@Alex_Mexico: I just realized that a 8.5GB install is already another full DVD9 which makes the installation even stupider. Use the damn space you guys left unused on the Blu Ray disc!!

Alex_Mexico

8.2GB, that is overly excessive, I don't care if i do have a 320gb drive in my ps3, it seems a little too much.

Ryuujin1024

This is just a bullshit rumour to generate interest at which point they will deny it.

Cigol

@Invert-Blu: That...doesn't make sense. You can delete the game data installed to the hdd on games you no longer play and keep the save data. Reinstall it if you ever play again.

Azures

if MGS4 didnt even need 5GBs why would a st00pid fighting game that doesnt even use one layer of a Blu Ray need 8.5? That's just nuts!

Or some incredibly lazy coding from Namco.

Alex_Mexico

YES!!

Please for the love of god 360 developers...if a game you think requires an HDD PLEASE MAKE IT SO!!

exkon

It could take 20 gigs for all I care. If this means MS has changed their completely bullshit policy, then I'm all for it.

gamadaya

@Talleyrand: I've had my 20gig for almost a year, I have almost every rock band song, and often download demos, games, and anything else that's labeled "free", and I still have 10gigs free on my HD, what are you loading on your HD? Ever hear of "Delete"?

Geez, buncha girls on Kotaku.

Android8675

Jeez at this rate PS3 owners will only be able to have so many games...

Invert-Blu

Probably a rumor, but for the PS3 owners with 20gigs and 40 gigs, maybe you should have factored in a larger HDD when you were buying a PS3. I knew for a fact that a 40 gig wouldn't last me with how much gaming I do and all the music/videos I have. I spent $60 for a quality 160gig hard drive and installed it within 5 minutes.

Better to do something about it then complain, and if you don't agree, then get an xbox or wii I guess.

mfwahwah

@Terance!: I remember the first one being Football Manager 2006 over here in the UK.

GOD

I don't care how impressive your boob phsyics are, they aren't taking up 2GB worth of hdd space.

Where else am I gonna put all my Rock Band dlc?

SatansBestBuddy

I actually like the installations. There are more benefits than problems.

DigitalHero

@Thorax:

Nah, it didnt sound fanboyish to me. But factual.

MSFT's way they went about the HDD and how it is as locked down as Fort Knox is rather annoying and juvenile ever since I got a PS3 for comparison a month ago.

EnigmaNemesis

If I recall correctly, Virtual Fighter 5 required a little over 2gbs and that game didn't have much in it. I can't see 8gb but I can see 4-6.

braids

Who the hell has not got $40 to spend on a 100gig 1.5" sata drive. Bet you wish you didn't purchase HAZE now!

Kidding aside...

If you chose video games to be your hobby and you are crying about the price, I think it's time to get a new hobby!

GOD

Yeah...I'm in the "stupid unfounded rumor" camp. The 36DD install on the PS3 sounds ridiculous enough--but forcing 360 players to get a hard drive? For SOUL CALIBUR!? That's just bullshit on a stick.

gigantor21

@Talleyrand:

They dont say they require an install for 360

YourAnthony

@Amazon_Chris: He doesn't jump around to psyche people out. He is a master of Lightsaber Form IV: Ataru, which utilizes aggressive offense and very acrobatic maneuvers.

(And yes, this was planned out before they made the movie)

[starwars.wikia.com]

Azures

@npa191:

FFXI was the first, then the PSU expansion pack.

Terance!

Just looked at the official X-Box site that is linked, and it does say Hard drive required. So, maybe the 2 gigs for a save file is true.

Still...what the hell Namco? Better be a damn good reason...

Saint Anima

I for one am liking that more developers are requiring the hard drive. I don't like the amount of space I will be forced to give up on my PS3, but the hard drive is a must these days.

I wonder if Mass Effect would have required the hard drive, would we not have the texture issues that it did.

Either way, I see the utilizing of the hard drive as a good thing. Just allocate the space better.

TheAngryHeretic

That is fucking ridiculous. I just bought my 20 GB 360 and no way am I ponying up more cash for an HDD just to play Soul Caliber. My loss and theirs.

Talleyrand

We'll know by the end of July. Heh. I wouldn't be surprised if it was true though.

Northern Cat

Hmmmmmm Thats rather robust for a fighting game. Never the less if it does come out to be true I'd be willing to bite the bullet and get it.

Stevetrop

Welcome, completely fake and soon to be disproven rumor bait.

Enjoy your short stay.

karasu is my homeboy

8gb for a fighting game? can I get a LOL?

this one is over the line ;)

QC8472

@Azures: Still a fighting game (one that looks really fun at that). I see no reason for it taking up that much space. If it truly does, I won't buy it for Vader and I already refused the 360 one's craptastic Yoda. Yoda is cool, but he sucks. His idea of fighting: jump around to psyche people out. If it does require almost ten gigs, I'll stick to 3 and 2.

Amazon_Chris

I find it quite funny that the Xbox 360 Arcade packs might not be able to play this arcade game...

Also.

I remember VF5 requiring an install for the PS3. I guess you would need it to shorten the load time to play time ratio.

GOD

@theblade: Except it didnt, seeing as MGS4's install took up around 4.6 GB.

summerdrone

Anyone who believes that a SAVE FILE could take up 2GB needs to have their head examined.

EvoAnubis

@Thorax: Wow, that sounded fanboyish.
So I guess I should say I don't anything wrong with Microsoft, I'm just a little annoyed that they make the HD optional in the first place and then charge for specifically made ones, instead of just letting us use our own.

Thorax

Wasn't ever going to buy it, and this just solidifies my apathy.

Rorschach2112

@Amazon_Chris: From what I can tell from the achievements and based on what we know the game is extensive in 2 categories:

1. Battle Tower

2. Char Creation (<--very extensive)

Azures

If the 2gb is a required save for both consoles (I'd assume the 360 version would be the same size or similar in size) it'll be like Brawl where an area is mapped out for this game, and you can't use it for anything else, despite you not using that space.

This has to be false, because that's a joke. And if it's true, wow, just wow. If games can put in game replays in games under a megabyte, how come Namco can't have custom fighters under 2 gigs?

KingBroly

That's just crazy. Do you guys remember how little Final Fantasy X's save takes? I am sitting this one out... not going to abuse my 60G over virtual boobs.

Yam

I can almost guarantee that SC4 doesn't need 8 gigs.

1) It's a fighting game. There can't be much it has to load.
2) The characters look like they will be the most detailed thing on the scree.
3) It's a ****ing fighting game.

IF it needs almost ten gigs of space, then this goes down to sloppy developers.

Amazon_Chris

Character creation or no, neither the Sims 2 nor Oblivion require anything close to that amount to save highly customizable characters.

futurebiblehero

Boobs....boobs....boobs...

Sorry, what were you saying?

In all seriousness, I'm amazed by people saying that they will not buy this game because of this. PS3 is the best console when it comes to data storage management, seeing as how you can just swap in another hard drive.

Thorax

what? are you shitting me? i have a 40gb, sony takes 10gb for god knows what, im putting my 8gb of music on there, and that will leave me with 10gb, and MGS4 is never getting uninstalled, and i have no cash for a new HDD, so dont even bring that up, and how is MS letting soul caliber of all games be the first to need a xbox HDD? shouldnt that be GOW2 to be the first or something triple A?

npa191

It's too much of a rumour to be true.
I mean, there ARE people out there with HDD-less 360s.

And 8.5GB for the PS3!? That 160GB 2.5" HDD for £35 looks so much more appealing for some reason...

But I highly doubt this is true, unless Ivy's bouncing boob physic data take up 4GB or something...

Gunmetal_Grey

@PixelRambo: Upgrading the drive is very easy and cheap.

A 120gb notebook hdd is the price of a game, a western digital drive too...the good shit.

Something to consider, especially since their are extensive tutorials on swapping out ur ps3 hdd out there.

Azures

@NeVeRMoRe666: Don't think Soulcalibur could out being multi-disc.

Round 2) Insert Disc 2.

I call bull on this. Sweet, delicious bull. Similar to the "GTA4 on 360 requires installation!" bull.

Kanik

6GB!!! now that's alot of hi-res..........textures. I'm not even surprised, looking at the screens released so far. And of course, the install is only for the PS3 version of the game. What's bizzare is that it's a requirement, since I don't see fighting games do much in the way of streaming.

Aion

Now I REALLY don't feel bad about the fact that I haven't played Soul Calibur since 2. That dev team has had WAY too much success with no real questioning...and just like Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha before it, they'll eventually realize they've created a bloated piece of shovelware that loses any fun of the original.

And then maybe they'll revamp the franchise into something more interesting than tits and stereotypical characters.

grizzlywilliam

c'mon it's obvious....8.0GB for Ivy's boobs and 0.5GB for the rest of the girls'.

CecilTheDarkKnight

that is so huge if true....lol almost a joke

djricekcn

That is some massive jubblie storage!

EnigmaNemesis

2Gigs? I don't care how robust their character customization is, you could fit thousands upon thousands of possible combinations into a several KB spreadsheet or text/reader file. Either their customization allows literally BILLIONS of options, or Namco suddenly doesn't know how to program, or rumor squashed.

Tzepish

If the 2GB save file is true, I'm definitely not getting this. I don't have 2GB free on my 20GB HD. Frankly, the Star Wars tie ins have really soured me on the game, but even still - I loved the original SC, but I'm not buying a new HD for the game.

helava

I really hate these HD installs, I recently rented hot shots from gamefly and had to delete a bunch of things, since I filled up my hard drive. I have a 60gb PS3 and obviously need to upgrade my hdd.

JesseLacey

@Azures: Because the main charm of consoles was plug&play, not plug,install&play.

Maybe I am the only schizo here, but I tend to travel between my PS3 games a lot which means I need to have multiple games installed at the same time.

PixelRambo

Absolutely untrue. That is rediculous. The game looks good but come on. If this is true its not a requirement its just crappy programming.

Numlock

Meh mgs4 had a bigger install then that for one an two i could careless seeing as i had a 20gig ps3 an bought a 120gig hdd for it earlier this yr i got more then enough space.

theblade

Those must be some gigantic breasticles to take up that much space.

TrjnRabbit

8.5 underboob?! I mean GB :-x

jisf0rjosh

What the hell? Is this for all the outfits we get to wear? yay? This is ridiculous.

crazyorloco

Keeping in mind that these installs are near pointless, of all the games that might use them on the 360...why THIS?

justhesh

@RomieYO: neither do i. @D-Sovereignty: yes, lets, but the 360 part appears to be true as far as the site is concerned @drevid: how? 6.5 gb + 2 gb for saves = 8.5?

kw4k

That better be a good character creator....

shak_0

Wow.

KM91

I might as well build a new PC. If only Blizzard would announce a game worthy of such an undertaking...

Oh. Wait.

kosbee

@TheIrishNinja: silicodes.

oh oh, this is not good. 8.5 GB....sheesh. And it's official, if you got the arcade model, you're unfortunately screwed.

Jun581 likes street fighter 2 but he hates zangeif

Jesus crap. What the hell would they store in that space?

Aethyr

I know it's a lot, but is it really? Feel free to delete the game data for games you no longer play, just keep the save data and you'll be fine. You'll be amazed how much space gets freed up.

You wouldn't keep a game on your PC hdd you don't play anymore, why would the PS3 be different.

Cheers woo.

Azures

@silkylove: that's what i'd like to know. it'd be nice owning it on both consoles for the special characters, but if its too steep of a requirement on the 360, forget about it

kw4k

sounds like a typo

drevid

@silkylove: I wonder the same thing. I only have a 20GB hard drive but if anything, I figure it would be multi-disc?

NeVeRMoRe666

Lets hope this silly rumor is false...

D-Sovereignty

I'd guess the 360 would require the similarly sized save game as the PS3. The 6gb install is probably(but unconfirmed) PS3 only requirement.

Still, those are some insane HDD requirements regardless of console.

PixelRambo

I don't have that much space left.

RomieYO

@RabidPinata:

I think like 95% of Xbox owners have an HD

YourAnthony

damn. this was inevitable this gen, but for big ol' boobies? what's Itagaki's secret?!

TheIrishNinja

I was considering this game, but if this turns out to be true I won't have anything to do with it.

sarcasmOD

I frankly hope this rumor gets nuked, it's outrageous how those developers force the players to wipe almost half of their HDs (for 20gb SKU PS3) or get a HD (for the 360 Arcade owners).
For a FIGHTING GAME that is supposed to be insert disk&play too!

iceketch

So how much disk space dose it require on the 360? The same amount or does it only need access to the hardrive, but no install?

I'm buying it anyway, but I just wanna know.

silkylove

wow. i was already going to get the ps3 version. but that sucks for the xbox owners if you are forced to have a HD.

RabidPinata

man 2gb just for saving? crazyness. i expect some awesome customization options.

phrequency

What the hell? For a fighting game? I can understand for the character creation mode, but only if it is insanely deep.

Highly doubt this very much. If its true...yowza.

Saint Anima

Why does it require so much? What happens to those that own a 20gb or 40gb ps3??

Game does look amazing!

YourAnthony

PS3 users get it easier then 360 owners. The 360 hard drives are overpriced, while you can get any hard drive for your PS3, well when I say any I mean you have a larger selection and can price hunt.

ninjikiran

Why do most people not even question the validity of YesAsia and the possibility of a typo? The save file number in particular is outrageous.

Azures

@Sailorcancer: No, because they're still worthless.

justhesh

That screenshot, well... I like it very much.

Gutzman

Now, these mandatory installs have OFFICIALLY gotten out of control.

CutePuppyz

Thank God PS3 can upgrade HDD of their choice. At least it'll be cheap to replace them 40GB. But this is still insane.

ksins5

8.5GB? ...but it's on blu-ray, right? Imagine what FF is going be like when it releases..

Alicia

Also I hope everyone knows that no game will ever, ever, ever take up 8GB on a PS3...There is a Sony Standard that states a game cannot take up over a certain amount of Game Data...Im not at liberty to mention how much it is but its no where near 8GB...

Elemence

Guess I'll get the 360 version. I'm going to run out of space on my PS3. Installs are complete bullshit.

argh

This is so absurd that I find it hard to believe. I'm buying the PS3 version, and Space isn't an issue for me if this is true, but thats still damn lazy on the developers part. Do they know how many people they're scaring away with the thought of this being true? Namco Bandai needs to comment on this rumor. Fast, and soon.

KeroseneClimax

Sucks if you have to upgrade your HD, although I'd think by now there's as many 20gb PS3 owners as HD-less 360 owners. Thankfully I got the 80gb PS3 with MGS4 and didn't settle with the 40gb. Even on 40gb I'd probably end up forgoing the PS3 version for space issues.

formina

I do find it odd that it would require so much space, but I'm not too worried if it's true. One of the reasons I jumped at a 360 Elite over the two cheaper models is just in case games started to require large amounts of hard disk space for whatever reason, and I wouldn't be surprised to find such games appearing soon.

Xenigma

@Elemence:
And where do you get said information?

gamadaya

@neo177117: How much did GT5P install? Better on disk or from he PS Store

Amazon_Chris

Personally, I hope this rumor is true.

mienai

This is 100% Untrue...HDD Installation is optional (PS3)...None required for the 360...

Elemence

Boobs.

ST19AG_WGreymon

I guess those increased big boobies requires a bigger storage space as well...

alecpyron

@kryzhal:
Definitely won't require the install. It probably will require the 2gb save data for the characters, but the installs on the PS3 are due to the slow speed of it's disc reader.

gamadaya

It's a good thing that the PS3 HDD can be replaced with any.

suya123

"So will 360 fanboys start daning in happyness that they have manitory installs now?"

Then again, it never mentioned manditory installs for the 360. I wonder if disc speed comes into play here...

GorbyGipper

Didn't i read somewhere that you can make upwards of 50 characters? Also the makeable characters costumes look a lot better than they used to in 3.

also the load times in 3 really annoyed me. If they can alleviate it by installing the game that's fine by me.

Although I don't think the 360 will require the 6.5gb install, the 2gb save data makes sense if you can make that many characters. Although hopefully it doesn't require you to use it all from the beginning especially for those who travel with mem cards.

kryzhal

SHIT 8.5G !!!

lil_thugz911

@Sailorcancer:

"So will 360 fanboys start daning in happyness that they have manitory installs now?"

Which is the lesser of two evils? Mandatory installs or draconian hard disk rules?

I'd like to let the developers choose how to use their freedom (like on Sony's platform, and hopefully MS's in the near future) and the consumers voice their approval/disapproval with their spending power.

GorbyGipper

Thank goodness I bought an 80gig PS3 instead of a 40gig! I mean, there's already Metal Gear, and now this. Shit's gonna add up over time, man.

Tatsujinken

does anyone else think that screenshot is a bit ridiculous in the boob department, i mean understand some people enjoy large boobs in their games, but that just seems like a bit much to me..

pandafresh

Screw that I bought the 360 without a HDD cause I didn't see the point of owning one since I only want to play games.

Phazon

8.5 gig °_°" its nearly 1/6 of my entire HDD and i there are some othere games toom so its would be like 1/4 of my left capacity. 2gigs of all the stuff on my hdd , are just mypersonal music,pictures and a few animes.

those "install data" things are getting annoying.

ibunkun

They need the HD to hold the advanced physics model that governs the breasts and butt jiggles.

I'm sure someone already cracked this joke but I figured I'd throw it in anyway.

Guild_Navigator

@Dayhalk:
At this point, I've got no sympathy for the Arcade and Core buyers.

gamadaya

Oh man this is just hilarious! I remember a couple years ago when MS was telling everyone that sony was crazy for thinking that a single game could fill up a single Blu ray and now this happens. I'm sorry but if you still think the XB360 is the future console your a damn retard. Regardless if this is a rumor or not that fact is that at some point in the future it will come to this, where games need manditory installs. I just don't understand why people still support MS when they are charging people $100 for a 20Gb HD when I just bought a 320Gb HD for my ps3 for just $25 dollars more. For all the ps3 owners on here bitching and complaining just stop. Your all well capable of going on to newegg and getting a laptop hard drive for dirt cheap. Anyways I can't wait for this game to come out so I can woop my friends ass!

drmfreak2

If this is true, I'd say it's disgusting. This trend needs to stop, or at least minimize the install. There's no reason it needs to be that much. 2-4GB's is acceptable, but 6-9? GTFO

LittleBigPlaneteer

Funny how people complain about the PS3 needing HDD installs, then this games need a HDD on the 360 granted most people probably bought the HDD version but still sucks for the people that got the arcade version. Lets see how much space it takes up on the 360.

Dayhalk

@oskarkeo:
Blu Ray drives can leave DVD drives in the dust, but when they only run at 2X, they're pretty slow.

gamadaya

@Amazon_Chris: Obviously the complex nature of Lightsaber combat escapes you. Shame ;)

Just wanted to explain that its not as you so eloquently put it, "jumping around to psyche them out"?

Azures

@shichi: May those boobs come with uncompressed 10 megapixel textures. Bumpmapping?

neo177117

@Sailorcancer:
I will. I'm not a 360 fanboy, but part of the reason I'm not is because there were no mandatory installs before.

gamadaya

@mrt181: obs...finished that up for ya

Houjutsu

I'm sure it has to be said, but you gotta have all that space for boobs.

Eltigro

@Koolsen: Yeah, I am glad of this fact too. Yep, it's good to own land. *stretch*

Guild_Navigator

THank God for a 120GB Xbox hard drive...

Koolsen

Is this game SERIOUSLY that large? I mean, in comparison to GTA4, this doesn't seem like it would be all that heavy (In terms of disk space and hard drive space). I mean, c'mon, it IS a fighter-based game. Does it need a whole lot of space? Unless those boob freckles and pores really add up, I don't see what the need is.

UCB-Disco

@drmfreak2:

What the hell are you crowing about?

Oh, snap, once you install the game it's bigger than on the disc! Take that, 360!

Strangelove

Are they going to have zero loading times with such a large install? That'd be worth it. PS3 drives are cheap as dirt, it's the 360 one that causes a bit of concern.

Wolfers

ONe question, if you mod your 360 to expand the HD (annoying, but possible), does that get you kicked off XBL for a hacked console?

arstal

If it does these two things, I'm all for it, specs be damned

-cuts down on in-fight loading. I'll sacrifice 20 mins at launch to save 2 secs/match

-prevents graphical slowdown.

Even as a 20GB 360 owner, I'll deal. (I still have 12GB left, and I can dump some stuff if needed, and I doubt SFIV is going to have issues.)

arstal

I think I'll skip this one then...

shade-black

8.5 GB!!!???

thats the whole freaking game on the 360 version...

i have 60gb ps3, but this is getting rediculous.

as for 360 owners.. i hope it requires less space... 8.5gb is half the 360 HDD space

Papero2

This isn't a big deal in my eyes, especially since I've been looking forward to this game for so long. 8.5Gb is nothing compared to the anticipation. Then again, this is all still a rumor for now.

Elusive_Tomcat

Hopefully the 360 HDD is just the 2 GB thing. If that is the case, then those few people who have 360s w/out a HDD who want this game can get one for around $50 on ebay.

Spartan1308™

Do they really expect us to believe that they can use the 360 HDD just for caching to get it to run well but they REQUIRE an 6.5 gb install on the ps3 and 2gb save data? Wtf.

CCCombobreaker

WTF. There is no fucking way it needs that much space on the PS3 HDD. Theres just no way...

WTF.

CCCombobreaker

@CutePuppyz:

ROFL....can't wait to see your reaction to the Age of Conan install if it ever gets on the 360 (only thing I could find on it says like a year after the PC version's release). That most definitely will have an install and I have a feeling you'll blow a gasket over that one.

thor79

If it has a mandatory install I'll pass. I don't care what the game is. I refuse to ever play a console game with a mandatory install. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and I think it's a good place to draw one.

BigWeather

not cool. not cool at all.

thaKingRocka

@Sailorcancer:
Why shouldn't we? One of the biggest downsides the 360 supposedly has is inherent limitation of the data disc. It's about time they start installing crap to the hard drive. I have a 120GB HD and still have 96GB free on it. Should there be mandatory installs...no, they should be avoided whenever possible, but at least give us the fricken option.

I'm not a fan of fighting games much at all...so I won't be buying SC just because of that. I just hope that this is a sign of things to come.

Why the hell are the consoles so limited on space anyway. I retired a 120GB from my gaming PC last week, as I replaced it with a 500GB. I got that 500GB hard drive for $100 less than you can get a 120GB HD for the 360. Space shouldn't be an issue and they shouldn't be charging so much for it considering they are simply repackaged standard hard drives.

thor79

@Alicia:
I wouldn't worry. See @gamadaya:

gamadaya

Wow . . . after reading through the comments, I've decided that while a few of you are intelligent, the overbearing majority of you are idiots.

Are you really stupid enough to believe that a save file can take up 2GB? Really? Actually, just tell me that some of you will simply use anything, no matter how absurd, to blast the PS3. Tell me that you know it's bullshit, but you don't care because it's negative against the PS3, so you're going to ride this for all it's worth to blast the PS3.

Just don't expect me to believe that you dumb enough to actually believe that a save file could take up 2GB. No one is that stupid.

EvoAnubis

@Alex_Mexico:
No, it's actually not Namco's fault at all. The only reason MGS4 took up so much space was because of the hours and hours of cut scenes. The install for it was smaller probably because there was less data that needed to be accessed on a regular basis. For SCIV, there's probably more data that they need to access quickly, but since there is no way to increase the retrieval speed on a Blu Ray disc without increasing the rate at which it spins, they need to save it to the drive. 8.5 gigs is still a lot though.

gamadaya

If these numbers are accurate I would not be surprised in the least. The textures in the screen shots seem pretty high resolution. If there is a large amount of custom content I would think with online play, it would be quicker to load that from the HDD thank disc seeking for each different person you play online with a unique look. That is just a guess though.

Halaster

Bullshit rumor is bullshit. The sheer concept of a 2 gigabyte save file is utterly and completely retarded, and no amount of custom variables relating to a custom character could ever rival even a few megabytes if it was a collection of things a player could actually do with a series of sliders and items. You would literally have to have over 700,000 player adjustable variables of 32 bits each in order to even come close to 3 megabytes of data. And the alternative? The player would have to create his own textures and various shader maps in order for a single custom character to hit even in the 50 megabyte area. Even if the player had to do all of this (fat chance in hell) and make his own models and animations, the idea of a single character requiring more than 70 megabytes is flat out absurd.

And 2 gigabytes? It'll be a cold day in the center of the sun when that kind of space is required for a saved game... at least if it's a saved game that doesn't require the complete storage of the character's human-equivalent genome.

DimensionWarped

Well, big boobs need big space after all.

Darth_X

my 360 doesent have a hard drive. why? I figured drop the cash for a ps3 and get one build in with a built in wifi and free online.

cluster1990

the boobs better be good

and that it matches the large hdd requirement

Leepox

@thor79: But the installs aren't doing anything for the limited space of the disc, because that stuff is still on the disc itself. Installs are only for loading and things like that, and so far they've proved to have little noticeable difference. It'd be one thing if it was merely a cache use, but large installs don't really pay.

justhesh

Sony only allows a max of 5GB for installs and Xbox.com isn't the most accurate place on the internet: [www.joystiq.com]

Barnolde

Boob physics tend to take up lots of harddrive space.

//Not really, just wanted to make that joke

Scuba Steve

its not about not having a HDD its about the space required on the small ass 20 GB XBox 360. I have a 250 GB on my PS3 so if it's big the choice is made.

Strider-No.9

it's amazing that people seem to think just because a game is a 'fighting' game it doesn't require horsepower or drivespace to run.

a fighting game can just as easily tax a systems resources just as much as any other title. don't be so easily misled.

i'm sure the install size is probably correct, but the save file size is probably 2mb-4mb, not 2gb.

kneehighspy

Good lord, is this going to have unlockable 1080P animated porn cutscenes in the install?

1080P Hot Coffee Mod - SC4 style

PipTheLip

You know, I was considering getting this for the 360, but if it requires an HDD, I don't think I'll be getting it.

Ashkihyena

@Berith: I second that O.o

Gillian Seed

Ugh.. this shit is seriously getting annoying guys, really. Enough with the damn mandatory installs.

Shin_Ein

Who cares.. -stares at the screenshot-

Berith

Wouldn't that be "hard drive requirement hell"?

Interstella5555

wooww... um... wow? i usually defend having installs in PS3 games because that's really why the HDD is there, but there's a limit. I mean, I'll put up with a 5 gig installation, maybe even a six, but 8.5? that's nearly 1/4 of my hard drive. No way. If it requires that on PS3, I don't even know if I'll buy the game, because I really want Darth Vador, but I'm not putting up with an 8.5, no siree. Maybe I'll consider getting the 360 version if it's less problematic... but I really wanted the Darth...

tehflyingwombat

Xbox.com says a lot of things, including "Ninja Gaiden 2 demo coming in June!" and that DDR Universe would be compatible with the songs downloaded from the DDR Ultramix series.

By the way, where are you people getting the impression that the 360 version of SCIV would have a mandatory install?

josh924

I think there is some misreading going on...its probably 2 gb of installation for probably quick access of data (2 gb on top of the allocated save data). Anyway, I will be playing that game.

ChuckNorrisKommando

maybe the game saves everyone you meet online so you can oplay agisnt their character is some sort of special arcade mode like in VF4 (maybe 5, havent played that)

kommanderk

Error for sure. Unless there is an option for full install that we don't know about.

But the 2GB save file should be a hint. The 360 HDD requirement is likely for online and customization data, and nothing more.

SG79

April Fools you suckers !!! Oh wait? it's only July 1st ...

EsCO823

guys,

big tits means big save files

get over it

Mr.Sad

Oh well, I guess having Linux installed on my 40gb PS3 AND playing games on it was just not to be.

Gestahl

What the hell is wrong with Ivy's boobs in that screen!? BREASTS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

Rebochan

2 gigs of save game data? Bullshit.

Laxcat

Wait for it....wait for it....

I'd like to put my 8.5 GB in her Disk Space.

/feels the cool chill of the Ban Hammer looming overhead. Eep.

Proto_Man

It's not that hard drive installs are bad, it's that developers can make better use of them.

Virtua Fighter 5 has an OPTIONAL install. Ninja Gaiden Sigma had an OPTIONAL install. These games were fine.

MGS4 had a mandatory install: No one fucking complained, because it was obviously worth it and made good use of the HD.

But Soul Calbiur? A fighting game that looks (in my opinion) only average, and broke it's combat quite severely with character creation last time? Any fighting game will at MOST have 30-50 characters and 40 stages, and those are crazy numbers. Then I could see a 6gb install maybe. But from what I know and I've seen, I just see a fucking laser-show version of SC3 with more boob physics, and combat as broken if not more.

Baikenator

I don´t have an hd but I´ll buy one until there.

lucasreis

The issue here for 360 owners is more than just having an HDD or not - it's the fact that there's only two sizes: 20 and 120GB, so people who either didn't buy an Elite or aren't wanting to buy a $120+ HDD are going to face some serious storage problems. Really, though, the people that are going to feel the hurt the most are those at Bandai Namco if the sales start to suffer as a result.

Blah8

@mx5:
Then how the hell does anyone expect Age of Conan (as far as I know the 360 version hasn't been canceled yet) to run off the standard 360 DVD when the standard PC install is 24GB+. If any game will get a mandatory install it's that game. That pretty much applies to any MMO due to the nature of the constant patching process they have. At the minimum you'll have a basic install and patches get downloaded and the game starts to run more and more off of the hard drive as more and more files get patched after it's release. If not a full mandatory install it'll at least be a partial mandatory install.

thor79

@CecilTheDarkKnight: now that makes sense. phew {^_^}

and here i was planning to upgrade the hdd to 250 GB on my 60GB PS3. this game better have some of the best character customization evar. i better be able to make Brian Crecente, with long sleeve button down with tribal designs,stonewash jeans, complete with long lock of hair. now if you'll excuse me......

*opens up tab in safari to newegg.com to search for HDD*

zanzibarlegend

having installs like some PS3 games now have (so you have to wait 10-20 minutes first time until you can play) is what I meant

mx5

@Sailorcancer"So will 360 fanboys start daning in happyness that they have manitory installs now?":

I doubt Microsoft will allow that on the X360 ever (having an install like the PS3). It is most likely just internet urban legends ...

mx5

By now, I believe most people's PS3 are full of installs

mcool93

@thor79: Some 360 games already do that (caching stuff to HDD in background), you just don't notice it cause the do it transparent. Even good old Halo 3 looks/feels different depending if you play with our without HDD - Microsoft just keeps hush-hush about that feature. Transparent caching to HDD in background is cool thing (360 games already do it, the DVD disc reads are much faster than Blu-ray so you can manage to both play game and cache), having to wait 20 minutes until you can play your new game is not a cool thing (slow PS3 blu ray drive speed suck big time). I can mention other titles and details but enough developer inside info for now ;) :P

mx5

That picture would get you loads of points in Dead Rising.

Shinryoma

Its not them, its you. These girls just prefer a larger disk space. What can they say?

King Seafoam

@oskarkeo: i don't know which sands my teats more, sony's arrogance that with 1PS3 (+1ps2, all 3controller configurations, a ps2 memory card 500GB PC hard drive, you can finally play all your old games as promised
or Microsoft's frankly "Pokemonesque" approach towards building a working console.

oskarkeo

That's it 360, with your 4GB game discs and your absence of HDD we ought to see some really spectacular gaming innovations this generation. Thanks for pushing things forward.

GogolGants

man these screen shots are distracting

Dimipapa

@Northern Cat:
Yes we will and I wouldn't be surprised either. That is rediculous about the possible HDD thing on the 360 and an 8.5 free space for install? WTF! That's gonna take a while to download.

MGSchick

if this is true, too bad there's not going to be a pc port. on pc who gives a shit about 8gb, but on console that's 7-10% of what people have available.

cephun

Do people really believe this?

Asriel