Sega: The iPhone is as Powerful as the Dreamcast
Speaking with SEGA of America president Simon Jeffery earlier today he noted that the iPhone is about as powerful as the publisher's console the Dreamcast. Jeffery said the company is delighted with how their iPhone version of Super Monkey Ball has been received by the phones many owners and detailed how the developer plans to take advantage of what he calls an upcoming and potentially major new platform for gaming.



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They need Chu Chu Rocket on iPhone NOW! That's the only Dreamcast game that I can see working on it. Hell, why isn't there a DS version by now?
Placentasaurus
9/9/09 BELIEVE...
lol, why don't they just make better games on PSP, DS, and current gen systems then? Just trying to cash in on Iphone gaming it seems..
toneroni
"... and we're one of the biggest games publishers for mobile phones in the west."
[later in the interview]
"I'll never understand why people play those crappy little games on their mobile phones"
Ooooops.
Web2PointOhShit
Heres my dream (Delusion) -
Sega are making terrible games to make money for their next console, where we'll get a REAL sonic game, Shenmue 3, and all the other amazing sequels we can shake a stick at, and great new I.P. with an online service to topple Xbox Live.
Hahahahahahahahahaha! Not happening :(
GViper
@Candlejack: Hey, he did pronouce the words! I distinctly heard him say "Dreamcast 2". That's a headline right there:
SEGA's Simon Jeffery talks "Dreamcast 2"
(And then, leave it to the article to clear things up, at least you got the hits, right?)
Antiterra
SHENMUE 3 on iPhone! :p
Melsir
The iPhone's graphical capabilities exceed any other phone I've ever seen, isn't that enough for you people?
lifeMac
I love how people say that it has N64 graphics like it's a bad thing. That is AMAZING for a phone.
lifeMac
fuck you SEGA
nitram100
@otakuman5000: What killed sega was it's gross marketing incompetence and generally idiot decisions. Sony happened to add fuels to that fire but really Sega killed the dream cast no one else. They fucked their potential customers with the 32x and sega CD and some people never forgave them. I knew a dozen former sega fanboys who jumped ship after the 32x and never even glanced at the dreamcast. Retailers wanted that to die too as Sega has a really stupid distribution model which required any retailer to take a loss on the machines to be able to sell the games.
kingmanic
company president in "talking crap" shocker.
gique
The iPhone has a very powerful 600MHz+ ARM CPU, but it doesn't have anywhere near the same level of power for its graphics chip compared to the Dreamcast. I'd say the iPhone is more like an N64 in terms of graphics capability.
photoboy
So NOW can we get Shenmue? Please?
God damn I wish they could have just hired Peter Moore back.
Aresef
As an Iphone owner, i can easily say that it is not as powerful as a Dreamcast :)
This is a PR guy speaking as if he were a programmer. He knows nothing of hardware, just media relations and marketing.
DwindleFlip
I thought the iPhone was supposed to be more powerful than the PSP, so I'd think it'd be probably more powerful than the Dreamcast.
Blah8
Are you pleased to see Nozomi or is that a Dreamcast in your pocket ?
PS: Hint for the younglings who didn't experience the Shenmue glory days:
+ Watch video
Voltron
Just release SoA2 on XB360 or Wii and then port SoA1 on iPhone. Win win!
ArgentAngel
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.:
I see your Jet Grind Radio and Power Stone, and raise you a new online-play enabled Chu Chu Rocket...man those were the days.
danterandal19
Um, maybe SEGA should take a look at Monkey Ball's reviews on iTunes...tons of 1 and 2 star ratings(out of 5) due to way too sensitive controls. I want to love the game but without sensitivity settings its way too hard to control. Get on it, SEGA!
However, I would not disagree the iPhone is up there with the Dreamcast...the textures in Monkey Ball are extremely high res...can't see any pixels anywhere.
fenderfuel08
@poopdeedoo:
the dcreamcast emulator is called nullDC. be warned ur computer has to not suck to run it well.
as good as shenmue or sol cal is, i still want.........
PORTABLE MARVEL VS FUCKING CAPCOM 2! comon if this is as powerful as dc, lets do this. hell even if u wont sega, we need third parties to emulate that bad boy on the iphone.
maraxusofk
yes...NEW console! i haven't been the same since you left...please...i promise to be a good boy!
angry_poster
Yeah, lemme just go pick some $100 bills off my Magic Money Tree and UH SIKE.
Sega, man, why? We used to be like this! *twist fingers* Please just make with the second coming so this drought could be over.
Deft_One
So then, by Jeffery's logic, that would also make the iPhone more powerful than a PS2, since (having developed on both systems I can comfortably say) the Dreamcast was the more powerful, and developer-friendly, system of the two.
It's fun when people say things.
sandwiches
@Benjammn:
Yeah, but there is not enough storage for Wii :(
Superstar90
maybe sega might team up with nintendo or something on periperals or future designs could happen?
sega must have a ton of unrelased tech toys they could colaberate with someone??
JUFONUK
Hmm DC monkeyball 60 frames vs iPhone monkeyball 30 frames... soooo.... wrong.
60Hz
@Superstar90: Or just do it through Nintendo's Virtual Console, as they have already have Genesis.
@Hulkamaniac:
Sega didn't have the resources then to compete, and Sega most definitely doesn't have the resources to compete now. Do you remember how much marketing for consoles existed at the beginning of that generation? Sega would have never made a new flavor of Mountain Dew, nor Sony nor Nintendo would have ever put an ad on the Eye in London. How ever much you want it, it will never happen. Not unless someone big (Microsoft big) buys Sega first, then funds them extremely well. With Sega's continued losses since the fall of Dreamcast, it will never happen.
Benjammn
Sega should team up with MS to bring Dreamcast Originals to 360, they aren't even big. Most demos are the size of original dreamcast games, so it shouldnt be too much of a size issue. I think dreamcast should become an online console via XBLA, and have major releases like they did on disc, except you would know what you were getting.
Superstar90
@RaepGoblin: Please refrain from the sanctimonious commentary until you have tried Puyo Puyo on the iPhone.
It's a broken piece of trash. Puyo Puyo is one of my favorite games, and the iPhone version is sluggish and unplayable. It is completely unacceptable for this game to run as poorly as it does, ESPECIALLY given that Sega is likening the power of the iPhone to the Dreamcast.
Robotube
@RaepGoblin:
hence the PS3...zing (i kid, i kid)
with no buttons at all, having only tilt or touch controls doesn't sounds good at all for gaming.
S3RV0
@Hulkamaniac:
Dude that is totally scary.
mcx
As a fan of the Dreamcast, I take offense at that statement....
William "Killer" Shatner
So Sega was lying about the Dreamcast's specs back in 98?
ila
Where is my Crazy Taxi!?
Matt Schlicht
@Hulkamaniac: It looks fake as hell... But i would love to be wrong this time...
*sigh*
Hellicus
where is the dreamcast emu ?
poopdeedoo
funny, i never remembered the dreamcast using 2d in a 3d game.
roflwaffles
speaking of dreamcast 2, check this out.
+ Watch video
This video has appeared on youtube recently, look at the reactions that its getting. Sega, we really want a Dremcast 2.
Hulkamaniac
That guy was so suavely smarmy. Easily the best interview I've seen come out of E3.
Trunks
maybe sega should make a new console finally, i know... just about everyone... who will buy it.
Hulkamaniac
Paying 85.00 per month blows, but to say the iPhone sucks is bs. The 16 gig iPod in it is worth the price alone.
JohnnyD57333
And yet, no one cares.
CCCombobreaker
Skies of Arcadia port PLEASE D:
Grahf
I thought playing SMB on it was like.. Not particularly cool.
I'm really unconvinced of the interface possibilities for mass market games. Looks like it'll be endless puzzles to me.
Sunjammer
So is the damn PSP.
Sailorcancer
Then get me my Jet Set Radio.
@malio: Oh yes, I did buy enough. I'm pretty sure I alone counted for more than 50% of SEGA's entire profits in Northern Ireland when I was a kid.
Mister Adequate
@malio:
Shhhhh, they don't need to hear that! The reality and truth of Sega's situation - and their roll in creating it - is as deadly as sunlight to them.
ca$h
Dear Sega faithful,
You didn't buy enough of Sega's stuff when they needed it back in the day, so they are now in 'money making mode' porting games to new (other) platforms and creating shitty/casual/easy money games for cell phones.
malio
I have an iPhone, and think most of the games suck.......BUT..... maybe a first person "touch" shooting panzer dragoon wouldn't be a bad idea.
vidgmr
Space Channel 5 and Power Stone on iPhone and a new Chu Chu Rocket that uses the iPhone's wifi/3G to replicate the Dreamcast online.... give it to me!!
... oh and Shenmue III... ::goes back to his room to cry about the never ending story of Ryu::
pashaveliki
@Robotube: Power doesn't equal fun
RaepGoblin
That's pretty damn impressive. Considering the first generation of ps2 games didn't look as good as Dreamcast games imo. The Dreamcast didn't get enough time to really bloom.
RaepGoblin
Oh really? Then why is Puyo Puyo and Colums a gigantic piece of shit on the iPhone, you jackass?
I want to punch that guy in the face for recognizing the power of the iPhone and releasing a total turdball crap-ass port.
Robotube
Hmm the iphone has better specs then the dreamcast so it is possible. remember the iphone also uses a powervr graphics chip so it is possible that its more powerfull.
majortom1029
@PixelPeZ:
Isn't it the story of pretty much everything?
Kiyosuki
FUCK SHENMUE.
Just give me a portable Soul Calibur and I'll die happily.
cYcO_pLuXxEl
just make a dreamcast 2!!!!!
mcool93
@Kiyosuki: "The iPhone isn't for everyone, but for me personally its been working out great."
oh, the story of Dreamcast...
PixelPeZ
Am I the only one who thinks it's insulting to compare anything to the Dreamcast?
Mact
He is obviously lying. Until I see someone play Samba de Amigo or Sea Man on an Iphone I will simply laugh at him. HAHA
curtisawa
The iPhone isn't for everyone, but for me personally its been working out great.
Though it is right that most phones are becoming more powerful than whole consoles themselves, that's probably going to open up a whole new can of worms somewhere down the line.
Kiyosuki
So by making this comparison is he trying to doom the iphone to failure?
Emperor_Guam
@StormdragonBlue:
$200 is hardly overpriced for a good smartphone that's also a good mp3 player.
jeembomb
Hey! the iPhone is a good device!
It beats the crap out of all previous phones I've had, and it'a as simple as shit! Just like me!
Sereously though.
I do like it so far, and monkey ball looks pretty good on it. It plays ...OK I guess.
GOD
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: Oh and by all of that, I mean in some way shape or form not iphone ports (though i would buy an iphone just to play a few of those should the stars align.
Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
How about you Give Me(Us)
Canon Spike,
Crazy Taxi,
Virtual On,
Frame Gride,
Jet Grind/Set Radio,
Plasma Sword,
Power Stone,
Project Justice,
Sonic Adventure,
Space Channel 5,
Spawn: In The Demon's Hand
and I won't bother you for another 10 years.
Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
@ninjablaze:
Yeah man, you're right!
I mean, it's not like Apple has an iPhone/iPod Touch SDK just sitting out there for free on the internet that would give every John Q. Programmer a pretty accurate idea of the platform's power. If they did then your post would come off as asinine. BUT, lucky for you, no such thing exists.
ca$h
It annoys me how the popular i-phone gets attention as being a "powerful" phone by sega, but come on...there are lots of phones that are as powerful as years old systems. Heck, I have a BlackJack II smartphone and have a NES, SNES, and Gameboy Advanced emulator on it. That means it has to emulate the hardware, plus display it on your screen. Oh, and I can also get final fantasy 7 to run on it with a PS1 emulator. So I'm all for making better games for phones, but not for just focusing on the i-phone because it's the talk of the town now. Plus, with other phones you don't need to jump through hoops or crack anything to install non-apple certified programs on it...
Mctittles
Hrm, I'm guessing the iphone isn't as powerful as the dreamcast.
That powerVR chip was fuggen badass.
balls187 upside yo head
Cool they should start porting dreamcast games to the iPhone asap.
dirkxxdiggler
@Candlejack: Haha, 'tap' into this. Get it? GET IT? jk. I hope they make some great iPhone games. Super Monkey Ball is good but I'm sure they could do better. The frame rate was great even with nice graphics.
spyker3292
Pfft, I chose the LG Dare over the iPhone, Service plan was cheaper, looks good and has the navigational in it as well, aside from talking and txting (and on the fly pics and vids) Ill keep my consoles for gaming.
shadablade
how about just a port of
Jet Grind Radio,
Jet Set Radio Future,
Power Stones (not 2, just 1, or 1 with characters from 2 <3)
Come On don't ANY of you remember POWER STONES!?!?!?!? I've not heard a single mention of it with all the sega talk lately =/
Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
Sega is full of crap. Maybe at the low resolution the iphone can render comparable graphics but i think overall the dreamcast is more powerfull than the iphone.
Sega should know that nothing is as powerful as a dreamcast!
parad0x360
Im going to get iphone.. When I can get the cash for it. Which will be.. *sigh* Who am I kidding.
Mizuki
I hate to break it to some of you, because I know how hard this may be to hear...
but I'm pretty sure the people that made the Dreamcast, and the people that actually develop and produce the games know more about the iphone's power than any of you could come close to knowing, sorry.
ninjablaze
No one's mentioned Dreamcast classic Jet Set Radio, which I think might be a perfect match for the iPhone. The cell-shaded graphics (revolutionary at the time) would probably look very sharp on the little screen, and I bet it would adapt well to tilt controls.
superannuated_grad_student
@Tepoz: Durrr! Thinking Xbox. Yeah, the bad SEGA management part killed the Dreamcast.
Tepoz
powerful? perhaps yes. as cool to control and to exchange memory cards? not so much.
PixelPeZ
Wait... srsly? We're comparing something that was as simply superb and ahead of it's time to something as shoddy and, frankly, sucktastic as the iPhone?
Y'know what, no, I could go on a rant about the iPhone loving more pole then a stripper on payday, but it's so old and over-done by now, I'll just leave it alone.
Jayl3w
I too still live in the hope that SEGA will return to former glory! BRING BACK Shizle Mizle Shenmue YA DIZLE!
Cough...Sorry...
I don't think the iphone is even close to the Dreamcast in terms of pure graphical power, but in terms of network and multimedia capabilities it might come close.
Oh!
and
I WANT TOY COMMANDER FOR MY IPHONE!
I loved that game! That shit would be awesome with the Iphone motion controlls!
GOD
@ronaldhennessy: I'm so glad you said that.
mpacuk
LMAO, Ya.....no
Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
@otakuman5000: Well, not having Madden, GTA, and about every other game that Sony made sure were exclusives to the PS2 made that possible. Of course, lets not let off SEGA's indecision on if it still wanted to be in the hardware business or just become software only. It really became a nonpoint as the in-house corporate battle for the direction of SEGA made sure no new games were being released on the Dreamcast.
Tepoz
Come on people, would you really want to play the conclusion do Shenmue on an iPhone? If they'd put I and II on it, great. But no more than that.
Valshar
When you can plug in maracas and a fishing rod into the iPhone, only then will its power even approach the Dreamcast.
Nawara_Ven
@Kaizuden: You could always get an ipod touch.
ninjablaze
Typing of the Dead is impossible on that keyboard.
Len Bias Cocaine Surplus
While they're at it, Sega needs to start working on another Jet Set Radio game.
ronaldhennessy
you what now, my iphone keeps crashin and the games dont work....more like as powerful as the 360
invictus2006
Phantasy Star Online for the iPhone and i'll buy one RIGHT now.
hamandcheeseUK
iphone sucks, no one cares. dc2 pls, cmon sega you can do it.
krokounleashed
I hate phones with too much on them. I use my phone for talking and texting, my PS3 for gaming, and when I get my PSP I'll use that for portable media/gaming.
mfwahwah
Bangai-O, Chu Chu Rocket, SEGA Swirl, English Of The Dead, Crazy Taxi, SEGAGAGA, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online (hell, if a MMO worked for NGage, why not?), and many many more.
Do it SEGA, use this "as powerful as the Dreamcast" device and give us the games. I would buy a iPhone/touch for that.
Kenofthedead
Okay I'm tempted to get a iPhone.. but the service is still way too expensive for my tastes. Plus when gaming takes a full force into the iPhone I'll then highly consider it when my contract expires. But for now all these games seem gimmicky with tilt and whatnot.
Kaizuden
We have a dreamcast 2. It is called the xbox 360. Think about it. Peter Moore, Online right out of the box. Universal appeal with gamers. Come on. The 360 is SEGA's revenge for the sheet of paper that had the PS2's specs on it.
Because let's face it that is truly what killed the Dreamcast. Sony's smoke and mirrors. Promises that ever 9 years haven't been realized yet.
otakuman5000
I was gonna say Shenmue, but you people covered it up for me.
I love you, guys. ;_;
Ashurahori
Come on sega, dreamcast was a great system for games.
Mr.DuckSauce
He's right about most of the stuff he says, but this is the same dude who completely trampled my emotions by confirming that Shenmue 3 is dead as shit.
And Seaman 2 was pretty much snubbed out with a simple "no." Oh Sega, I used to love you so..
cornunderscore2x
New Dreamcast! or a new console.
Mr.DuckSauce
So Sega's going to be pushing crappy Sonic games on iPhone users too?
Quilt
@geo1378: I hope I'll never ever be part of that 50 million. Apple can keep it's over hyped and over priced devices.
StormdragonBlue
Dreamcast 2 please! I was a sega fanboy for as long as i could remember till the dreamcast died and sega studios started making the worst games ever. The dreamcast was my most beloved console. Part of the reason i still hate EA even though theyre pretty cool right now is cause they were part of the reason the dreamcast died.
snakepliskin
Shenmue 3 please :) PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON??? :(
It disgusts me to see sega like this, i mean LOOK AT THEM< they are trying to back themselves up in the begging of the video with comments such as "we are good in the XBLA, top at iPhone etc etc THESE GUYS use to be in the console market and they are talking like BAD 3rd party companies.
I will make this statement now, and when i say it i mean it deep within my heart........I HATE SEGA, no shenmue, the bugger off!!! >:O
FlagshipFighter
Super Monkey Ball's monkeys look really 2d. I wasn't impressed by that. But they would know, so I believe them.
I'd rather he compare the power to PSP.
@dynendal: lmao.
karasu is my homeboy
Yet nowhere near as entertaining.
KaneRobot
Sega has a master plan. I just feel it. They're waiting for the right moment...
Saint Anima
I want Sonic Rush iPhone, Kthxbai.
rubbad
Dreamcast 2? DREAMCAST 2? CONFIRMED! Joking.
It's cool that SEGA can tap into this but it's a shame they can't seem to get console games right. Ever.
Candlejack
4 cries for shen mue in 7 responses...
bobtheduck
It sounds like Sega's still got that first party ambition.
Buried deep, and repressed...just waiting for the right moment.
Kiyosuki
Wait a second...
PatMan33
...too bad your not making a Shenmue 3
:(
Ricksterlau
I have the new iphone and even though monkey ball is hard to control i see tons of potential for the iphone. graphics on monkey ball look like the wii version. crash nitro looks like a psp game so there is tons of potential here, not to mention 50 million will have a ipod touch of iphone eventually.
geo1378
@dynendal:
We're on the same wavelength.
Heliophage
I'll go ahead and ignore the other post so I can dream of Shenmue Tilt.
Heliophage
THEN PUT SHENMUE ON IT YOU RETARDS
You're breaking my heart!
dynendal