Well I saw this coming I am still not going to pay. I dont like resistance anyway but I would like to have tried it.

sargemat

@JayD16:
Not really.It's not PSN gold.
See you have a choice and you don't have to buy the service to play anything.Want to know more(This is not Starship Trooper damnit!)about games or get a beta key,then pay.If you don't,then don't.That's choice and it's a good thing.

enewtabie

@kitsuneconundrum:
Yeah me too.

ViciousViper

count me in (if qore is actually out here by then)

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

I'm still waiting for the damn Socom beta from the first episode of Qore to be available for download. I hope it does go up eventually otherwise the $3 I spent on it was pretty worthless, all that was in it was some information I already knew about Star Wars TFU and Soul Calibur IV and some interview with the Afro Samurai guys (but who really gives a damn about that).

bkchurch

why ppl hate qoure? It is an DIGITAL MAGAZINE, it is a new way of an interactive gaming magazine. Its great.

xiked

I downloaded the first episode of Qore from the USA store. It was nice enough, but not that much content, maybe 20 mins max. BUT you have to pay for this magazine which has adverts in it. Yet Xbox Live have their own magazine 'Inside Xbox' which is weekly and free.

Considering that Qore works as a great promotional tool for upcoming PS3 games, Sony really should make it free.

Andronix

Again I say: Fuck Qore

WarlordPayne

@Talleh:
"I can pay for..."
You can but nobody forces you.

Garo

Yeah... Still no. I'm not paying for your advertising, no matter how many beta's you put in it.

PapaBear434

USD 3 for the month exlusive or beta access 1st. Pick and choose, last month the sweet deal was Naruto demo earlier. You can spend that money on a set meal burger right? Ok, some more lovely host (need more boobies shot) & some developer interview and its all set.

ahmeng

Well lets see...I can pay for videos, interviews and trailers that are all free from any number of websites, "exclusive demos and betas". If a demo is exclusive, it's a glorified beta. And unless a beta is open, it's always exclusive. Instead of charging for their online play, they're charging for something that's universally free?

Talleh

You guys know gamepro is gonna have a contest to win a beta code.The details havent been released but if you go to [www.gamepro.com] the news on the beta contest will be revieled.It online and i would guess that you dont have to buy anything so for the people who cant preorder or buy qore here ya go.

kinstinct

@JayD16: I agree. This is really the most insane concept and I wonder how many demos will be locked up in Qore eventually. Best thing is, as this ripoff service is not even available in Europe, we have no access at all to it! Now that is really great Sony, thanks a lot!

Starsky

"Sony Holding Resistance 2 Beta Keys Hostage In Next Qore Episode"

Sounds like a headline on a tabloid. :/

Garo

The Qore subscription is reasonably priced in my opinion, It costs nearly $30 for two copies of OPSM in Australia and a years subscription to Qore only costs around $28 AUD.

It may not be available here yet but I could purchase a network card and easily purchase a sub.

NickyJ

I'd like quore but ofcourse i can't have it over here in europe.

Cchrist

@JayD16: It's more like OXM. They have exclusive demos sometimes as well.

HikariOblivion

@HikariOblivion:
orz
Thank you.

Channing

I'm an avid PS3 fan but we should all despise Qore and reveal what it truly is. PSN Gold.

Something I can download that is basically 15 mins of ads. Hey, I'm fine with that.

Make me pay for it? That sort of sucks seeing as its ads but maybe some people will like the coverage.

Adding exclusive demos/betas. Now you've crossed over from adding total content to the PSN to holding demo's for ransom.

JayD16

@HikariOblivion: Err, not just subscription, you can get individual episodes as well

HikariOblivion

@Channing: It's a magazine on PSN. Paid subscription to in-depth video previews and whatnot, with a few little things like this to entice people to get in.

HikariOblivion

I am just going to preorder.

Master_Achilles

So, I'm going to sound really dumb, but can someone explain to me what a "Qore" is? You can leave a semi-friendly note on my message thingy, if you'd please.
I'm guessing this is some kind of PS3 thingy and I was sorta interested in picking one up (someday, when I have money. /sigh) so maybe this is relevant to my interests?
Thank you. :3

Channing

@theblackgate: No, you're 99% correct. They may as well drop the "beta" charade, call it an "advanced demo" or a "sneak preview"

Luke Plunkett

@jfm3: Yes, the Halo beta and all was wonderful but was I actually one of the few who bought Crackdown for the game and not the key?

From my experience, the people who join a beta are there simply to play the game early and not help out with the building phase. I'm not condemning beta players, I'm just saying that it's not fair for the game.

Wow... after reading my comment, I come off as whinny.

Installing anti-whinny patch v1.2

theblackgate

@Archaotic: thanks. sorry qore; if you can guarantee me a kz2 beta entry, then we'll talk.

gooberbaby

man i'm glad all those gaming magazines on news/bookstands aren't paid demo's like this Qore service

FP Bleentastic has cake

@gooberbaby:
[www.neogaf.com]

There ya go.

Archaotic

Sony, those sly devils. I guess I'll be buying the next episode then.

kadaj24

For some reason, just looking at the word "Qore" gives me this strange feeling...no, not THAT feeling. I don't know if there's such thing as bad aesthetics when dealing with words, but if there is, this one is up there on my list.

FlashIV

@Archaotic: i was gonna say i'm sold, but if i can preorder and still get in then i'll do that. link?

gooberbaby

Yea well its a marketing strategy but it better to know your in the beta than in the past where they randomly select you through e-mail. I hated that because their were games I want to try in the beta.

Ryosukekun

haha, was wondering what incentives they'd offer...playstation underground's not nearly as big a deal with demos up on PSN. well played, sony.

TheIrishNinja

@exprohound:
QORE is America only, yeah. Trust me, you're not missing THAT much. It's like a glorified magazine, although some of the stuff they show is surprisingly in-depth.

And I find it hard to hate Veronica Belmont, for some reason.

Archaotic

Hell no Sony!!!!
Seriously though I don't even read Game Informer because i have KOTAKU. Why would I need QORE

hk458

qores basic concept just irks me to no end

kitsuneconundrum

SWEET. preordering is a much better alternative to the crappy qore. who needs qore when u have iono THE INTERNET?

maraxusofk

Smart smart Sony!
Now at least people can tell themselves they paid for the beta key, instead of paying for Qore.
However, bragging rights for being a beta-tester are not included in this deal

sander_dutch

@jfm3:

Very true, I totally forgot about the Halo 3 beta being packed in with crackdown

Snipes424

Screw a Qore subscription... I have Kotaku to tell me which episodes to buy! THANKS KOTAKU!!! YOU'RE THE BESTEST!

gomerkyle9

Is qore only available in the US as i've not seen it in UK store

exprohound

Just a word of caution for people about to start a flame war about this.

A well-known Insomniac employee on GAF has confirmed that beta keys will also be accessible to people who preorder the game. Preorders actually get first dibs on the beta, QORE subscribers get in a week or two later.

Just thought I'd clear that up before people start whipping torches around.

Archaotic

Resistance 2 looked amazing to me, so I hate to say it but i'm in :P

Desmondia

This is the kind of stuff I was afraid was going to happen...

RTW

I'll be damned. I just checked my e-mail and saw that. I was about to send a tip in! Oh, well.
Seems like a smart move by Sony to sell subscriptions.

H3lloWorld

I already have Qore............. I would recommend it to all PS3 owners it not bad it pretty interesting. You get exclusive videos, trailers or demo before anyone else..........I got an invite to the socom on the first one. Yes there alot of ad but it aint going to kill you.

Ryosukekun

@jfm3: Cheaper than a lot of "betas" lately.

Can't wait for betas to cost as much as Gran Turismo Prologues do.

Black-Dog-Howls

Cheaper than buying Crackdown.

jfm3

Sorry to double-comment, but I am also disappointed in the way betas work. I want to be a part of a beta to help fix the game, not just for the sake of "prestige" that comes with "buying Qore" or "preordering Resistance 2" for example.

(Which I think is stupid)

When the MGO beta was out, I sent comments into Konami after almost every gaming session, for example. Didn't do much, but hey, at least I tried...

TuxBobble

So, this "undisclosed number"...

Does that mean that even if you buy Qore, you won't be guaranteed to get in? Because that's really a deal-breaker, for me...

TuxBobble

For me Qore made sense - about 25 bucks, and right off the bat I got Calling All Cars, which I'd always been interested in but never bit - - turns out it's one of the best pick-up-and-play titles for my group of friends (needs more tracks, but still a blast)..definitely worth the $10 they normally require. So now it's $15 for a years worth of magazine content...that's still pricey due to the volume of stuff, but then factor in demos like this and it's pretty reasonable.

phloog

Reminds me of Halo 3 beta and Crackdown. Equally lame.

TRT-X

Man, I'm still waiting for this Socom beta to start. That was the only reason I bought ep1.

boots555

@theblackgate: Actually I bought Crackdown because I enjoyed the demo. Honestly companies that put out betas are looking for feedback on how it plays, but very few of the people who are playing actually know where to report any problems or concerns with the beta. It seems as if companies want to give consumers the benefit of playing early so they could increase their profit margins. While that is great and all I wish they didn't add betas onto other games. Crackdown was exploited and truly was an enjoyable game. I wish more people actually played it.

NightMystic

I actually purchased a yearly subscription to Qore in June. I thought "hey, free calling all cars, and the SOCOM beta - sucks they're limiting the beta, but what the hell, I'm in."

Almost immediately after launching the June issue I felt dirty for my purchase - the videos, while hi-def, and interesting enough, were sure to show up on youtube, and the ads were downright intrusive. When you purchase the yearly subscription, it comes out to around $2 per issue, which I guess is better than a lot of magazines, however, it still feels just plain old dirty - I mean, I like burger king as much as the next guy, but don't force me to sit through a 30 second ad for it every time I want to look at content for a different game.

Furthermore, they only cover about three games per issue - significantly less than any print magazine out there.

I guess what I'm saying is don't buy Qore. If, despite my warning, you DO choose to buy an issue, or a subscription to Qore, just remember - no amount of showering will wash the guilt off of you.

What The Geek

@hk458:
WHOA there cowboy! While Kotaku and gaming information sites are a great place to get information (seemingly) free there's no substitute for hard-nosed journalism with articles that dig deeper and have more information in large part because they have time to build articles that offer more than 1 to 2 paragraph quick hits.

In my opinion magazine and newspaper articles are more broad and can actually be educational as they tend to use a more refined sentence structure and Harvard-quality words.

In a world filled with OMG, IMO,BFF, WTF, NSFW we are becoming a lazy generation that don't seem as concerned with quality or appreciate the time it takes to be creative.

Now, if you're looking for a magazine that offers all of this and more I suggest two magazines: Edge (published in the UK) and Play (by long time editor-at-large and resident fanboy of ALL things gaming and anime related Dan Halverson).

incredibilistic

@Garo: There's a reason for that.

Keep on reaching for those uniques, Luke.

obonicus

Qore is really great and I'll for sure get this one...

TheApprentice

@incredibilistic: Whoa there yourself. Blogging, while different from traditional print publications, is still a valid form of journalism. It's different, but still valid and extremely (not just "seemingly") useful. A print publication can't tell me what happened at 10 AM today. Magazine pages don't change minute to minute with up to date news. Don't stick your nose up at blogs because the information is presented in bite sized chunks - the information itself is still valid, and informative.

Furthermore, it's not all OMG, and WTF's. As in print publications, every writer has his or her own style. Sure, some people choose to use their voice to talk as though they were a lolcat caption, but not everyone falls into that trap. Many of the writers on both kotaku and joystiq (and many others) display excellent writing skills along with an extensive vocabulary.

Does all of this mean print mags are no good? No, of course not - but you should use the two in tandem. I'm an EGM subscriber, and a kotaku reader. They both have their special place in my gaming news intake cycle, and I wouldn't part with either for anything.

Don't be so quick to judge - it makes you sound like a Luddite.

What The Geek

I bought the first episode. Still no Socom beta invite..

fquick

I got GI for 15 bucks for a year which is cheaper than Qore. And has alot more info. plus I did check out Qore and it was okay. Anyway I was going to preorder resistance anyway this is just a reason for me to get around to it faster.

DEMAN

@What The Geek: Now that's not true at all. I've worked at newspapers, and I can tell you that newspapers are updating their websites with breaking stories whenever they're finished. No longer do you have to wait until the next morning to get your news. Granted, they don't do this with every story, but just with the important/breaking ones.

Now let's move on. Let's talk about video games! Rarararar!

notquitecenter

Qore is actually very worth the money. I purchase issues based on the content and what interests me, but they are very well done and entertaining.

sascha23

Hey guys,

James from Insomniac here. If you aren't down with the Qore, there will be many other ways to get in, including a pre-order program that will ensure the earliest possible access to the Public Beta.

JS

jstevenson

@Archaotic:
I would get Quore if it would be available over in europe, not only for the bata key, but also for her... ahem I mean for the videos

McLogo

"Please pay us to watch our ads!"
"Maybe 10 years ago, but now I have broadband."
"Heh heh... I see... We'll let you in on the beta for R2..."
"What's that? We civilians don't have anything like that..."
"C'mon! Pay attention, we're selling you stuff!"
*playing GTA4*

I used to love PS Underground. I also used to buy all sorts of magazines at $15 a pop for demo discs (gotta love Canadian book pricing!) However that stopped years ago, and not, you know, having paid for Qore to see what's inside it, it just looks like PS:U again. Not interested, I'm flooded in demos, movies, articles, and even behind the scenes stuff already. Gating it off just ensures a small audience.

@jstevenson:
That's cool. Respect to you guys. I'm just digging on Qore mostly.

---

There's only one game that would make me buy Qore to beta test it, but since I'm not here to cry out my love for the series I'll leave it at that. (It'll have me willingly buying a download though...)

fuchikoma

i actually decided to check out Qore and its pretty interesting IMO, plus at worst it would be a 3 dollar purchase, though it seems that's not the case.

demonknightinuyasha

Guys...Qore does not have exclusive demos, but advanced releases of the demos, to go along with the betas, the wallpaper themes, videos, etc. Unfortunately Naruto was the only demo in episode 2 and that was released in the store last week ( about 2-3 weeks after Ep #2 of Qore) And i'd agree that Naruto isn't worth it, nor are many demos (Battlefield: BC anyone?) when it comes to advanced showings. But Qore is still much better than the "official" PS mag which is just the pathetic PSM editors with the official PS copyrights, etc.

SonicTonic

I'll be honest, I bought qore for Veronica.

If I wasn't a Veronica fan, I'd be disappointed. I mean, the ads suck! I didn't pay to get forced into watching ads! At least you can skip them after a while.

gyoshi

Is it just one episode or does it have to be a subscription?

Frank