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Spider Vs. Snake: Everyone Wins
Posted by Brian Crecente at 7:00 AM on July 29, 2008
It looks like THQ released a trailer during last week's Comic-Con showing off one of the boss fights I described in my write-up of Deadly Creatures.
It looks like THQ released a trailer during last week's Comic-Con showing off one of the boss fights I described in my write-up of Deadly Creatures.
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jive238
Posted 9:28 AM 29/7/08
I'll also attest to the suckage of the player in this video. The Ign video is waaaaay better, it also looks like that not the last you'll see of the snake.
jive238
argh
Posted 9:10 AM 29/7/08
That was frustrating to watch. Whoever was playing really sucks.
argh
Stompy1
Posted 9:08 AM 29/7/08
Hmmm, I thought one of the strengths of the spider over the scorpion was that the spider could climb walls and whatnot. Yet in that boss fight, the spider is restricted to the flat piece of earth in front of the snake. Looks like a formulaic, uninspired boss fight from a game I thought was all about innovation.
Stompy1
Bergerac
Posted 8:53 AM 29/7/08
That spider hates those damn'd snakes on his MF'in plain.
Anyway, if this were more of a successful simulation, it'd be good. As it stands, it looks like... a video game boss fight, which is really bad.
Bergerac
cynopt
Posted 8:50 AM 29/7/08
Well, crap. Still a good concept, but that gameplay looks pretty weak; hopefully that's just the first boss, and there's some kind of learning curve beyond this advance 'n flail business.
cynopt
dry-roasted-peanuts
Posted 8:38 AM 29/7/08
@DaveB: Your sympathy is duly noted.
dry-roasted-peanuts
Benzak
Posted 8:36 AM 29/7/08
@Pezdispenser: That's exactly what happened to me.
Benzak
kojirodensetsu
Posted 8:35 AM 29/7/08
This looks like one of those things that would be awesome to watch in real life (although I don't think a spider and a snake would fight in real life though sadly) but for a game doesn't translate well.
kojirodensetsu
GyrFal
Posted 8:34 AM 29/7/08
@Reibooi: You obviously have not seen very many games.
GyrFal
Pezdispenser
Posted 8:32 AM 29/7/08
The IGN version did look much better. Just imagine how lame Halo 3 would have looked if the only trailer you saw was of someone getting lost in that first jungle section for 10 minutes.
Pezdispenser
DaveB
Posted 8:28 AM 29/7/08
I feel bad for everyone who bought a wii.
DaveB
Reibooi
Posted 8:22 AM 29/7/08
This looks like one of the stupidest games I have ever seen.
Reibooi
frostcircus
Posted 8:20 AM 29/7/08
I might have to play this game on mute. That sound design is absolutely atrocious.
frostcircus
bigman88zz
Posted 8:13 AM 29/7/08
wow. why is the gametrailers vid so much worse than the ign vid?
bigman88zz
Furysetzer
Posted 8:10 AM 29/7/08
That guy really sucked. You obviously have to dodge the strikes and then bite his rattle when it's down.
Furysetzer
dry-roasted-peanuts
Posted 8:10 AM 29/7/08
@alfredofroylan: Ok, that is a HELL of a lot better. Thanks.
dry-roasted-peanuts
Grahamunculus
Posted 8:10 AM 29/7/08
i want to play as a rabid chinchilla with a party hat on
Grahamunculus
TheGuilty1
Posted 8:09 AM 29/7/08
Man....I was sort of looking forword to the game, but that didn't look fun at all.
TheGuilty1
shichi
Posted 8:08 AM 29/7/08
i gotta say this is a pretty boring looking boss fight. the only thing you can attack is the blinking snake rattle? and since when do spiders roar? hahaha damn if a spider attacked me and roared i'd give up on the spot.
shichi
yomachaser
Posted 8:05 AM 29/7/08
It seemed pretty obvious to me that it was the first part of a puzzle/battle (bite the obvious glowing tail, then shake nunchuck to dodge the snake so it crashes into the friggin wall of cactus spikes!) and the player was just terrible at the game.
Just once it would be nice to see a vid of an up and coming game where the player was actually good at the game.
yomachaser
AcidCrownie
Posted 8:05 AM 29/7/08
@excel_excel: Yeah, that was the first thing I thought. Then I watched the video and was pretty upset that that amount of epicness wouldn't happen....yet.
Hmmm, that would make a great story for MGS 5. Kojima, make it happen!
AcidCrownie
Silent Predator
Posted 8:01 AM 29/7/08
@Dayvie: How about Baby vs. Rhino?
I really want to be interested in this game. I've read a lot of good things about it. The combat here just looks boring. Maybe part of it was the fact that the player was sucking it up.
Silent Predator
shimage
Posted 8:00 AM 29/7/08
That was ... kind of weird. The mechanics seem a bit out of place. Why doesn't the snake just eat the spider instead of smacking it around? Why is the rattle the boss' weak point? If it were some god or monster, then I'm fine with whatever bullshit excuses they come up with. I think we have a pretty good idea of how snakes and spiders interact, though, so I have a harder time letting shit like this slide. If the mechanics are going to be the same as every other game around, I'd just as soon play one with a setting that isn't as jarring.
shimage
IndustrialJones
Posted 7:58 AM 29/7/08
They should make a Rock, Paper, Scissors fighting game with a rock character, scissor character and paper character.
IndustrialJones
CockroachMan
Posted 7:57 AM 29/7/08
Yep.. just saw the video at IGN.. makes the game looks way better than that :P
CockroachMan
alfredofroylan
Posted 7:54 AM 29/7/08
Guys, there's actually a video with the same enemy and the same scene. The problem with this video is that the tester sucks, GT testers are really bad.
[wii.ign.com]
This is good.
alfredofroylan
Kingdom Oblivion
Posted 7:54 AM 29/7/08
Wow that's realistic .. >.>
Kingdom Oblivion
Lingxor
Posted 7:50 AM 29/7/08
I've always wanted to be a spider!
Lingxor
Lazlo
Posted 7:50 AM 29/7/08
@Gravnar:
+ 5 innovation points for them!! :P
Lazlo
TRT-X
Posted 7:44 AM 29/7/08
So strafe, dodge attack, bite tail...repeat. That looked VERY boring.
Great concept...horrid execution.
TRT-X
Scuba Steve
Posted 7:44 AM 29/7/08
I was hoping this was some sort of Spider-man vs Solid Snake super crossover..
Damn you!
Scuba Steve
Mr. Mastodon Farm
Posted 7:42 AM 29/7/08
Looks like shit. Guess I can take that one off my list.
Spoiler: Both lose, the beetle wins.
Mr. Mastodon Farm
BelmontHeir
Posted 7:42 AM 29/7/08
I hate spiders and I'm still interested in picking up this game. Geez, am I that starved for a decent game on the Wii? Nah, for some reason I think this game has potential.
BelmontHeir
Dick-Ballistic
Posted 7:40 AM 29/7/08
OMG I can't wait to play this so I can run around while a snake bites me and I miss his rattler every time I try to strike back! AWESOME!
Dick-Ballistic
justhesh
Posted 7:39 AM 29/7/08
@Junker: I think what you meant to say was Jordan vs Bird.
justhesh
GrassJelly
Posted 7:39 AM 29/7/08
Meh, the player controlling the spider sucks. Why fight the snake when it has the high ground, compounded by the fact that it has a clear range advantage .....
Unless of course that's just the limitations of the game itself. =(
GrassJelly
Dayvie
Posted 7:37 AM 29/7/08
@pasquinelli:
Its a gimped version of Rhino. No tusk and 2 legs. Marvellous creature.
Dayvie
superbabyproject
Posted 7:35 AM 29/7/08
@excel_excel: I thought that too.
superbabyproject
pasquinelli
Posted 7:34 AM 29/7/08
@Dayvie: that would be awesome. what's a ryno?
pasquinelli
RaynR
Posted 7:33 AM 29/7/08
This must be the game they keep talking about for the Wii that caters to the hardcore gamers. All that the snake's tail is missing is a big flashing red light that says hit here...oh..wait...
RaynR
moutski
Posted 7:28 AM 29/7/08
@excel_excel:
Yeah, thought the same thing.
moutski
chuffhoncho
Posted 7:25 AM 29/7/08
@Dayvie: I'm pretty sure that's not what I meant. But good play. :p
chuffhoncho
excel_excel
Posted 7:25 AM 29/7/08
@hlfx: We can dream man....we can dream....
excel_excel
mistersneak
Posted 7:23 AM 29/7/08
@Jtn:
Yes, same boss fight, better quality, better player. Watch the one on IGN if you find this entertaining.
mistersneak
hlfx
Posted 7:23 AM 29/7/08
@excel_excel:
+1 on that sir......same thoughts here :(
hlfx
Aye Mak Sicur
Posted 7:21 AM 29/7/08
While I think it's a great concept, and more original than most games, that was a terrible way to show it. Maybe the guy playing it just sucked, but the controls seemed awkward and the video ended with the player dying. I don't know about everyone else, but personally a gameplay video should show more than "Here's what it'll look like when you awkwardly fumble with the Wii remote and then die.".
Aye Mak Sicur
Veloc
Posted 7:21 AM 29/7/08
Not as great as I hoped it would be.
You can't just take an awesome idea and slap a half-hearted video game on top of it.
I know! Let's make a MMORPG about pirates! It will be awesome.
Wait...
Veloc
NotoriousJnX
Posted 7:20 AM 29/7/08
Where's the panda that does Kung Fu?
NotoriousJnX
Dayvie
Posted 7:18 AM 29/7/08
@chuffhoncho:
Yeah! Where is the Karate Chop or Spiral Kick?? Don't tell me they forgot the Spawn Web of Death attack as well??
Geez, I hope someone got fired in the Spider Research Department.
Dayvie
Junker
Posted 7:18 AM 29/7/08
@Dayvie:
Pfft, no way, Bird vs Airplane is what it's all about.
..
Wait, I missed the point.
Junker
excel_excel
Posted 7:17 AM 29/7/08
Cool! Better than the pre-rendered rubbish that are used to promote games endlessly
@Gravnar: You get to play a scorpion as well!
I mustn't have been the only one who saw the title of the article and thought "OMG! SPIDERMAN VS SOLID SNAKE!!"
excel_excel
Tesla7zap
Posted 7:17 AM 29/7/08
Great, it's the game version of the movie Komodo vs. Cobra if anyone heard about it... And if not, go to Youtube pronto for some hilariously bad... everything.
Tesla7zap
dry-roasted-peanuts
Posted 7:16 AM 29/7/08
You know, this video would probably be much better if the person actually controlling the spider know what the hell they were doing.
Mongo aside, it still looks pretty spiffy.
dry-roasted-peanuts
sergotron
Posted 7:16 AM 29/7/08
I kind actually dug this.
sergotron
gblock
Posted 7:15 AM 29/7/08
That looked like awkward controls, to me.
- There didn't appear to be any kind of lock-on;
- I get the feeling that the UI was trying to tell the player how to dodge, but the player wasn't having any.
Either the whole game provides heads up as to how each encounter can be played, or, more likely, this was a very early creature that was intended to teach you the dodge mechanic.
gblock
Jtn
Posted 7:15 AM 29/7/08
The guy playing sucks. There's a much better video on IGN.
Jtn
bigsamboni
Posted 7:13 AM 29/7/08
a giant enemy snake attack its weak point for massive damage
bigsamboni
Gravnar
Posted 7:10 AM 29/7/08
@Dayvie: Definitely! My money is on the hamster though, those things are vicious.
Gravnar
holysocks
Posted 7:10 AM 29/7/08
that looks worse than ps2 games
holysocks
CockroachMan
Posted 7:09 AM 29/7/08
Yeah! Take that snake!
CockroachMan
Dayvie
Posted 7:08 AM 29/7/08
@Gravnar:
Ryno vs. Hamster.
Nows thats where the moneys at.
Dayvie
chuffhoncho
Posted 7:08 AM 29/7/08
Well, it looks awesome, but the battle itself seemed a little simple. I hope there are more moves than just lunge forward and well, stand up on four legs. Also, was there a run away and sneak up on the snake option? Or a lead him to a more strategically sound location option?
chuffhoncho
Gravnar
Posted 7:08 AM 29/7/08
@Lazlo: well... you get to be a spider... not much else...
Gravnar
Lazlo
Posted 7:07 AM 29/7/08
Wow, that didn't look fun...at all. I don't know why the press has been so favorable of this game. It must have something uniquely fun about it....surely it must.
Lazlo
wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
Posted 7:07 AM 29/7/08
So, snake is Triangle Man, and spider is... anyone else, right?
I hope Sony's not too pissed. Their plan of having Kratos fight a rattlesnake in God of War III is fucked, now...
wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
mwoody
Posted 7:05 AM 29/7/08
Wow, way to take an interesting, original idea and turn it into a cookie-cutter pile of shite I've seen a hundred times before. *sigh*
mwoody
justhesh
Posted 7:05 AM 29/7/08
Man, that music is fucking awesome, so Planet of the Apes. I loved it.
justhesh
Gravnar
Posted 7:04 AM 29/7/08
I wish to see this game but with nonviolent creatures vs. really really really dangerous animals.
Gravnar
Dragoona
Posted 7:03 AM 29/7/08
it = the spider
Dragoona
bubassi
Posted 7:03 AM 29/7/08
that was desperatly awful.
bubassi
Dragoona
Posted 7:02 AM 29/7/08
The snake attacked it's weak point for massive damage.
Dragoona
akumaserge
Posted 10:01 AM 29/7/08
@excel_excel: I thought the same thing with Solid Snake vs Spiderman.
akumaserge
Toastbusters
Posted 10:31 AM 29/7/08
@BossMonk: If you watch the IGN video, you get a clearer image at what's going on; the spider isn't attacking the tail to harm the snake, but rather to aggravate it. When the player dodges the aggravated snake bite in the right place, freakin' Snake rams its face into the cactus.
But of course, the jerk playing the game clearly sucks, and didn't even attempt to dodge the following attack.
I really like that the Snake isn't actually beaten - it gives you a huge feeling of proportion and taste for food chain.
It's a shame this video make it look so terrible and gimpy - the IGN playthrough is so slick, it's practically moist.
Toastbusters
King Seafoam
Posted 10:24 AM 29/7/08
stepped* sorry.
King Seafoam
King Seafoam
Posted 10:23 AM 29/7/08
This one time, I steeped on a Rattle snakes tail- and then there was an earthquake.
King Seafoam
BossMonk
Posted 10:18 AM 29/7/08
wow, you would have thought that the bundles of dead skin that make a rattler's tail would also be its weakest point for venom based attacks!
About as unlikely as using a mostly unexplored setting to make the most uninspired gameplay imaginable. Might as well replace the spider with a space marine, it would sell better that way.
BossMonk
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Posted 10:59 AM 29/7/08
@Toastbusters: Might also be a change made since the build IGN played.
Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc
Toastbusters
Posted 10:36 AM 29/7/08
Also, it looks like the guy is playing on easy or something, since the tail in the IGN footage didn't glow like mad.
Toastbusters
Orionsaint
Posted 11:39 AM 29/7/08
everyone wins except the spider. it's getting pwnd by the snake! do something already!
Orionsaint
Shabat0ge
Posted 12:07 PM 29/7/08
ehhhh meh beh thq
Shabat0ge
parazen
Posted 12:39 PM 29/7/08
I can't decide what is more retarded:
1) The idea that the rattlesnake's rattle would be its weak point (rattlesnake rattles are essentially thick clusters of dead skin cells; in reality, that is a rattlesnake's least vulnerable point. Even worse, they grow back!)
2) How many times did that snake have to bite that tarantula before it croaked? Fifteen? Jesus, have the creators of this game ever heard of venom? I mean, even without all the cytotoxins, neurotoxins and haemotoxins a snake like that would deliver with each bite (a couple of which would be lethal to a tarantula in molecular doses), getting repeatedly impaled on those fangs would be pretty awful, too.
That was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
parazen
chaos_isnt_here
Posted 12:59 PM 29/7/08
hehehehe
that was terrible.
really now, whose gonna buy this game?
chaos_isnt_here
Thedavid
Posted 5:45 PM 29/7/08
Why does the snake sound like a lion? And the spider a tiger cub?
Anyway, it would take only one or two bites from a snake for a large spider to be done for. Still interesting though.
Thedavid
ThursdayNext
Posted 6:23 PM 29/7/08
@alfredofroylan: Thanks for the link. Much better when the tester is not a trained chimp minus the training.
ThursdayNext
ThursdayNext
Posted 6:54 PM 29/7/08
@parazen: It's. A. Game. It's not a Discovery Channel documentary. Games have the same requirement as movies and comics to be enjoyed; that you suspend your disbelief. Do you dislike COD4 because you can take an infinite number of bullets without dieing provided you have a breather in between getting shot at? Does it bother you that in any game, you may run out of ammo but your enemies don't? Do you really hate extra lives because we only have one life? Gameplay mechanics, like health bars are used to make games entertaining and...well...not impossible.
Calm yourself, and if you find you get upset because a game about being a spider isn't realistic enough convert to Budhism, you never know, you might get lucky and be able to try the real thing!
ThursdayNext
Ptolemy
Posted 10:13 PM 29/7/08
@chaos_isnt_here: I'll be buying this game.
Not an FPS - check
No buzz cut space marines - check
Not a minigame collection - check
Not a sequel - check
Good looking Wii game - check (search on youtube, I'm impressed)
Ptolemy
Arkos
Posted 12:34 AM 30/7/08
The person playing during the demo is an idiot. "Uh, lets just stand there when the snake lunges at me. Then I am going to do a forward attack from 20 feet away. Oh, the only way to hurt the snake is to hit its tail, well I think I will just stick to my strategy of getting my ass beat"
Arkos
s0nlxaftrsh0ck
Posted 2:12 AM 30/7/08
Can I at least ONCE JUST ONCE! Have a normal battle with a fucking snake?! Is that too much to ask?! Why does he always have to be bigger than me!
Though...i guess in RE1 and RE4 you kinda did...so i guess i have. But ARRGHH Big snakes...::stabs at thee::
s0nlxaftrsh0ck
glutto
Posted 7:33 AM 30/7/08
Can you play as a badger?
glutto