To all saying that this wont sell systems, have you all forgot the best selling title on the market? If Sony can show the SIMS fans this game and grab them then they have a hit on there hands. This is for the people who like control in their games and customization.

Sony needs to start pimping the game now... Ads should be cute little skits created with the game or levels that mimic classic game levels.

EGBTMagus

@Skychrono: And by the sounds of it you never will. Oh well, ignorance is bliss, as they say.

ƒox

@Skychrono: Yes, this game should be free. *Rolls eyes*

Maybe people care because it looks like a lot of fun? I could be wrong though.

Mpalm.

@alexander: Hah! Just this morning a friend of ours emailed me asking when she could come over again to "toss Santa's B!tch around". "Pain" also goes over well with the ladies, it seems.

TitillatedOcelot

I seriously don't understand why everyone cares. I can't believe people will pay $60 for something that is essentially four-player Mario without formal enemies.

Yes, it has "limitless potential," and you can import things and talk. You could do the same in Worms and countless other games. And is the level creator really what people focus on in Smash Brothers?

It's very cute, and the music is well done. It reminds me of Lost Winds for WiiWare in style and presentation, which is a good thing. But charging $60 for something that should probably be cheaper or free? I can't understand why this or Home are as exciting as people make them out to be.

Skychrono

@mister_shhh: korn invented ragdolls? pull your head out of your arse and think before you spew the shit from your brain.

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

@alexander: Wow, the PS3 is being bought by female, more-or-less-casuals and at that price point :o That's pretty damn impressive.

Candlejack

I remember in an earlier LBP video, the sackboys were using each other as ladders to get across obstacles and swinging each other upside down to propel themselves. What happened to that?

AngelMayLaugh

Stephen Fry? I knew that was coming...well, not that they were going to use Fry per say but I knew the training modes would have a narrator in the style of '70/80s British children's TV programs that had a kindly older voice (like Tony Hart) narrating the on-screen hi-jinx. LBP was after all inspired by stuff like Take Hart.

silkwood-scrubdown

Alright, I have a question for all of you people who claim to 'not get' LBP. That question is: when you opened up your NES (if you had one, of course) and stuck in SMB, did you turn it on, and say to yourself, 'I don't get it,'??

Christ, what's not to get? You're a running, jumping, sack thing. You run across levels and solve puzzles, a la other games in the genre called 'platformers'. And although that quick description doesn't even come close to doing LBP justice, that's the gist and I'm trying to K.I.S.S. Aside from the 'platforming' aspect, there's a fuckton of other cool things to do with the creation tools, which have been touted ad infinitum.

Plus, it's just a beautiful looking game. Lemme sum it up for you: It's Mario, except he's a sack, there's no princess to save, and it looks a billion times better graphically. Same fun, same genre, different game. The end.

h445

@AngelMayLaugh: @MSUSteve: The fact that one of them has fallen behind maybe? All footage I can recall shows all playable characters on screen together, so presumably the camera zooms out to keep everyone visible. If it reaches a certain point, it's probably safe to assume that whoever is farthest from the goal is falling behind.

@youruglyclone: Not the only person. To me it looks like a the next generation of line rider... Fun for 5 minutes, and then a few artistic types with hours upon hours to kill will make some elaborate and inventive levels that you can watch someone else play on youtube.

mfolwell

@mister_shhh:

"and they took their main character from the cover of a korn album. that's about as terrible an idea as i can imagine."

wtf?

Im gonna qoute shacknews on this:

"oh, you ignorant slop(s)"

luxusa

@TitillatedOcelot: Funny thing about that. She bought the MSG4 bundle and I'm something like 6 hours into it, but she is totally hogging the PS3 playing "Pain". She can't get enough of that game.

alexander

@ dowingba

Yeah agreed it doesnt look too fast paced, one reason why i hope it wont be a problem (im absolutely loving LBP n cant wait!). AS long as its all playtested n whatnot im happy!

lol on the plus side i guess it does mean the game doesnt stop for everyone when one person is attempting a tricky jump for the 1 millionth time lol

NovaBlack

@unleashbass:
4 player at that..

enewtabie

Even though the press conference didn,t convince me at all, this game + MGS4 on a cheap blu ray player can be enough to justify a purchase..

dmfamzo

Honestly I wasnt too excited about LBP since its announcement.

But after seeing the world and the levels Im soo getting it.

It looks like the platformer that will redefine the genre.

IM also really happy about MM releasing Ragdoll Kung fu: fists of plastic on PSN :).

I actually really liked the whole concept of it. It pleases me that this is coming to PS3 overall. PLUS more TROOOOPPPPPHHHIIIIEEEESSSSS!

luxusa

This will be the only game eva! that my misses will fight me over. It's a good job it's Co-op.

unleashbass

"The tags used to label level you create are pre-selected and were intially from LOL Cats. This has since been changed"

Aw come on. That would have been awesome. I literally groaned a huge "awwww" of dissapointment when I read that.

dantemustdie

@AngelMayLaugh: I assume the skill of the people playing together.

Hauler

@mister_shhh: the main thing you are missing its a pair of good eyes sr

mpar

Why would someone want a LBP shooter? someone correct me but there are a million shooters for every platform game.

Also when he says a higher levelled player he might just mean a higher skilled player. Creating levels will be cool but a minority will probably contribute to that aspect, then again i can be wrong as i usually am.

Also this has the potential to be the PS3's Mario Bros game.

gnudna

Watched the G4TV presentation with Evans... AWESOME!!!

[e3.g4tv.com]

Garo

@Jamezspot: What? There's no way this would be on the PSN, have you actually looked at the game? Anyway, it looks absolutely class and that voice chat lip synching idea is brilliant!

Polysics_2004

@tonka_92: It will be created and on youtube before the game is even released. Guaranteed.

dowingba

only thing I learned about LBP is this, Powerpoint Killer!

and also I'm the only person who doesn't "get" LBP.

youruglyclone

The first few screens of Mario 2 would be cool. You know where you fall down and then go through a door.

dowingba

@StorminNorman: "This game is why I own a PS3"

Okay, so you will never play Somethin else? :D

M.C.-Action

@mister_shhh:

Ah, Sackboy was created by one of the creator's parent I believe, and was in the game Ragdoll Kung Fu.

As for being on the leapfrog? Wow, that's pretty ignorant to what the game offers.

mrantimatter

Stephen Fry in Fable 2, Stephen fry in LBP... at this rate he's going to become the voice of ALL GAMES.

Not that thats necessarily a bad thing. But some other voices would also be good :-)

Badben

Sony should pay Miyamoto a couple hundred thousand to do his own mario level.

AngelMayLaugh

@tonka_92: I'm not even a mario fan and almost planned on making that as the very first thing I do. lol

Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.

@MSUSteve: Jedi Sackboy = MEGAWIN

TitillatedOcelot

Stephen Fry?! Holy shit, this game is going to be amazing.

Kazzahdrane

@StorminNorman:
Go!Team and Battles is part of the licensed music in game.

enewtabie

The tags used to label level you create are pre-selected and were intially from LOL Cats. This has since been changed.

ROFL. This game is made of pure win. Can't wait for it.

Candlejack

i.. just... don't... get it. this looks like a game that would be a better fit for leapfrog than the playstation 3.

and they took their main character from the cover of a korn album. that's about as terrible an idea as i can imagine.

someone please explain to me what i've been missing for the past two year.

mister_shhh

@AngelMayLaugh: I'm wondering this as well. Does each player's Sackboy level up in some way to acquire new abilities or something?

MSUSteve

@NovaBlack: Sonic 2 was really really fast paced though. It was impossibly difficult to keep tails on screen with the screen moving that fast. LBP doesn't seem like it's possible to move all that fast. I don't think it'll be much of a problem. The "going off screen and dying" mechanic seems like the only logical way to do things.

dowingba

@alexander: Dang! When a game can prompt your lady to purchase you a device that will almost certainly compete with her time-wise, that's impressive.

Although I can almost certainly see playing this with my finacee a lot, so it's not like one of us will be hogging the PS3 from the other.

This game wasn't even on the radar when I bought my PS3, but if I were still on the fence about one, I think this game would be the tipper.

TitillatedOcelot

@Captiosus: it depends on how it's marketed. More than quality marketing is king when it comes to shifting units so if Sony play it right they could well benefit from LBP considerably more than say MGS4 et al (which appeal somewhat exclusively to the hardcore gamer).

Regarding peoples constant complaints about it not seeming like a game; are you forgetting it's a PLATFORMER with CO-OP capabilities based within a physics enriched world? They are focusing on the user generated angle a little too much but it's a good way of getting across all the possibilities that will be available to you on release. In a matter of minutes you could create a simple RACE map for you and your friends, or a traditional platforming experience punctuated with scenarios that require teamwork to overcome. It's not supposed to be anything other than a platformer with user generated content and multiplayer capabilities as far as I'm aware. I think it WOULD be nice if there was a story element to it all (and perhaps there is?) but it's not essential and the graphics have enough character and charm to carry it.

Cigol

@enewtabie: To sum it up,LittleBigPlanet is the shit and you should buy it.

That's about all that needs to be said. :P

Kanik

@SSJ4_Macd:
"it looks like a standard platform game"

There you have it. standard platform game. How many of them came out in the last few years. Not enough. I liked R&C Future, but I'm really looking forward to some side scrolling platform with unlimited (ok 3 layers was it?) of creativity.

It's just that it's totally old school, meets Next-gen power. I remember having a heck of fun creating tracks for excite bike back in the NES days, and with a few other games that featured that kind of thing.

Kyolux

Titles that will be emulated within 24 hours of LBP's release:

Super Mario World(ALL VERSIONS)
Sonic The Hedgehog
MegaMan
Metroid
Final Fight
Earth Worm Jim

FrankTheCrank

Sex weeeee!

Can't wait. I'm going to make Megatron!

will

@SSJ4_Macd:
You have the single player around 50-60 levels.You also have the creation aspect that you can upload your levels,play others levels,unlock rewards trophies,etc.
You also unlock tools/components to use in the creation aspect in the single player part.You can use the eye toy to upload your pics to the creation aspect to use in game or any image you save on your hdd.You can also use the level for a chat room if you want because it has in game voice chat.
The creation tools allow you create pretty much whatever you can think of.You can go vertical,horizontal or whatever you like in your design.Setup the rewards you want on your level.You can make it a timed race level if you like.
There are logic chips in the creation tools also that allow you to give objects the ablity to move or react.

To sum it up,LittleBigPlanet is the shit and you should buy it.

enewtabie

@dowingba: See no need for the sacrcasm my friend was a genuine question enquiring why people are really excited about it. Now what you call "infinite content" i call "a finite amount of creativity based on preset parameters", I did state it seems to have an impressive level creator, and now i know thats what peeps are looking forward, its not my bag but fair play to you all!

SSJ4_Macd

"• There are over 60 tutorials that focus on creating."

Well I know what one of the trophies are then. 60 levels just sounds insane but for something this deep I don't mind. Still I cannot wait for this game. Just like Uncharted this is one game that every PS3 owner should have

Sparx

sounds ACE

although i disagree with the game mechanic of killing a player if he/she falls behind.

I remember playing sonic 2 on the sega megadrive. If a second player played as tails the same thng happened. Tails would die if offscreen for two long n then fly back in. ONly problem was it got SO frustrating playing as tails taht after a while you'd just put the controller down n wait till sonic got to a boss fight where there was no chance you could go offscreen n die.

I dunno, i just think its gonna rub it in the players face if they arent doing well (but still learning) if you kill them and move them. kinda like saying " hey noob, god your so slow, death for you, *BOOM*, n now we'll just automatically cross that bit for you. "

I mean what if they were JUST ABOUT to cross something, n feeling a real sense of achievement, n the auto death kicks in. that would be a real kick in the teeth. N new players will just say 'sorry im not playing, all i do is sit there and die whilst the other player runs off, i cant do it'

Just my two cents.

NovaBlack

@tonka_92: Dude...no doubt!! Mario levels will be all over the place. Also, I could see a redo of Earth Worm Jim. LOL.

I can't wait to see what I'll whip up. Hopefully, mouse and keyboard will be quicker for level edits.

FrankTheCrank

This game continues to strike me as one of the most creative games we've seen in the past decade. I hope it lives up to that.

And it is one of the main reasons I bought a PS3 last year.

doubtful

@alexander: Yeah. The Sims 2 Ikea Furniture Stuff Edition is where it's at, though.

dowingba

@TitillatedOcelot: Yeah, my wife is not a gamer at all but she totally wants this game. She even bought the PS3 as "birthday" present for me. Win-win.

alexander

I want this game solely for that piece of music they've been using in some of the trailer. I think I've had it stuck in my head for six months now.

This game is why I own a PS3.

StorminNorman

@phantam: if you want a shooter version of littlebigplanet get gary's mod for HL2.

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

@CockroachMan: Yes, and we all know how The Sims was a colossal failure. I see what you mean.

alexander

@SSJ4_Macd: A sidescrolling platformer with infinite content? Nah, nothing exciting about that.

dowingba

@Danmagic: Oh, no doubt about it, this game has chick appeal all over it. My fiancee goes nuts everytime she sees ANYTHING to do with this game.

TitillatedOcelot

Agreed! I just don't see the draw of running around with friends solving puzzles. The only way this game can ROCK is if people break the mold with used generated levels. Maybe we'll be able to turn it into a shooter somehow?

www.allthumbsticks.blogspot.com

Speedbag

@SSJ4_Macd: the level creator.

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

@Jamezspot:
No,BD only $59.99

enewtabie

@Jamezspot: Why would this only be $20? It's been in development for years, has a robust physics engine, beautiful graphics, fantastic animation, unlimited gameplay potential, etc. I would LOVE for this to be a DL, but the devs have already talked about releasing LBP on a Blu-ray disc. However, I'm not sure if that's the only way it will be distributed.

I am looking forward to this as much as any of the other top-tier releases on the horizon. Creativity FTW!!1!

NoMoMoJo

i'd really like to see them really push it to like... a shooter or something not just the platform runner platform as it stands... but thats just me.. hands down it looks good im just not a platformer...

phantam

I Bought My PS3 FOR this game. It's actually coming. *almost faints*. Also does anyone think it'll be weird to see the cute little Sackboys Lipsynched to curses?

Maxyboy13

This game selling like hot cakes.. Hum lets see. Little kids nagging parents to get it, GF wants a fun simple game to play. This game seems to cater to all the demographics.

I for one am excited about this game and i never play these types of games. But trust me when i say that when the mario world comes out ;) Im on it.

gnudna

One of the reasons I bought a PS3

cant fucking wait!!!

White-Sharingan

Im@Shinamano: @Captiosus: im with you guys im not trying to start a flame or be a troll but ireally dont see why this games seems to be on every PS3 owners must (have well apart from the having no games, i joke i joke please dont lampoon me) it looks like a standard platform game with a (albeit an advanced) level creator, i'm i missing something?

SSJ4_Macd

Halo 3 sidescroller coming soon!

Scrapple

STEPHEN FRY?!?!

Pure awesome.

I figured this game was going to be a Little Big Letdown for a very long time, but the more I see and read about it, the more excited and impressed I am. Looks MM are going all out with this title. Can't wait for October!

tslothrop

@Captiosus: I'm buying a PS3 for this game and this game alone.

dowingba

@Captiosus:
My missus saw it and suddenly thought it would be a good idea for me to buy that PS3 I'd been after for a while....so it might. Although that was a year ago !

The idea of re creating levels from classic games such as Donkey Kong etc, or all of the game and watch series is intriguing for me.

Danmagic

@CockroachMan:

It's a platform game, really, it's just got an amazing amount of stuff you can do with the level editor.

mrantimatter

This game is the reason I bought a PS3! Hoy crap on a stick I can't wait for this! Most anticipated game for me since.... well probably since ever. XD

Mikit0707

My creative juices are yearning for BK:Nuts and Bolts and LBP.

Arttemis

@FrankTheCrank: maybe we should get a stopwatch and time from the exact moment of release until World 1-1 appears as a story here
I'd say a day at the most :)

tonka_92

"You might've known all of these. Heck, you might even know more. Good for you."

Every entry should end with that line. The crowd loves it.

KaneRobot

And then blizihizake totally proves me wrong.

LOL. ;)

Captiosus

You know, I never cared about Little Big Planet, but once I got a PS3 and started reading and seeing more stuff about it, my interest is suddenly jumped, especially with the 'demo' of it during the Sonny conference.

MiliardoK

The game looks impressive.. but it doesn't seem like a game to me.. just a big sandbox. Like The Sims or something..

CockroachMan

@Shinamano: Same.

I've heard people claim that LBP will push PS3 units off the shelves, but I just don't see that happening.

Captiosus

Interesting reading!

ProsaCC

Man, I might have to get a PS3. I'm really excited for LBP.

blizihizake

I'm in!!

I can't wait for someone to mock up a Mario World level...should be interesting.

Another thing....the physics in the game look sick.

FrankTheCrank

"If two players of different levels play co-op together and one falls behind, that player will instantly die and respawn so the two players can keep up."

What determines the levels of the players?

AngelMayLaugh

Wait they lipsync?

Hello Sackboy Red Vs Blue series.

mrantimatter

I'm so stoked about this game. It's not gonna be a full $60 right? Only like $20 from the Playstation Store?

Jamezspot

shweet! can't wait for this!!!

Kain The Undead

I'm not sold on this being the be all end all that everyone wants to proclaim it, but I will give it a shot when it hits.

Shinamano

Lipsynching Sackboys?! Can anyone say Puppet Show!

Can't wait to do my Dracula Sackboy Rock Opera.

Kanik

@Skychrono:
LittleBigPlanet is a fully realized 50+ level platforming game with 4 player co-op, online or off, and a storyline. I'm not pretending it's going to be an incredibly poignant story or anything, but it's there. Granted the creative tools are a big part of the sell, so if you're not interested in that aspect I can imagine you'd find the product to be undervalued.

Bottom Line:
You get the guitar and the CD.

Benzak

@Skychrono:
Not sure what your point is.You really dont' care about the game and that's fine.But,to think that people who work hours upon hours to make something very creative should be almost given away is a insult.
Your comparing games on a lesser scale to LittleBigPlanet or games made years ago to LittleBigPlanet.There really isn't a comparison along those lines.
It's cool to understand a game but you should at least enlighten yourself.

enewtabie

@Snokie: Yes, exactly. Thank you.

I think that'd make a buyer out of quite a few people. No matter how much Wii Sports is simple, there are a ton of people who are content to just play that for the system for months. This game could do the same - move systems - but it's much harder to say "$400 system + $60 game" than "$250 system, comes with game."

Please note that I'm not bashing LBP, it looks interesting and I'd play it given the chance. But I'd hesitate to pay $60 for a next-gen (read:prettier) platformer.

Skychrono

@Skychrono:

seriously?

what part of 50+ levels shipping with the game don't you understand? This will be a full scrolling platformer with enemies, basic narrative, and boss fights… plus the entirety of the tools used to create all of those levels.

"self-applied textures" I guess you missed the part about importing phots from HDD or Playstation Eye then?

Accordion

@Candlejack:

I think Skychrono's point about Wii Sports is that packing in a good game is good for selling systems.

Sure LBP is worth $60 (or more, to some), but imagine a PS3/LBP bundle. That's a system-seller.

Frankly, a PS3/LBP/Home combo might sell one to me :)

Snokie

@Skychrono: No, it's still a very poor comparison. Maybe if wii sports had any value whatsoever and had any level of customization or creation... but it doesn't.

You do realize this game comes with a pre-made single player mode right? Maybe not, because it seems you really haven't been researching this game well before judging it.

Mpalm.

When I first heard about this game, I was like, "okay, it's another platformer for the PS3," then I started seeing more screenshots and reading about what can be done with the game. I'm into action titles, sports titles (although, I'm boycotting EA Sports and Madden this year, I'm from the Chi-illa and they put a Packer on the cover), RPG's and shooters so this should be something that I can play with my young newphews and what not. Althrough, if I figure out a way to blow somebodies sack brains out, it's going to happen.

Agent X

@Candlejack: No, it really doesn't. It may not be a sequel but it's still a platformer. Besides, since when do we pay more just for innovation - was Katamari Damacy $120?

(No, it was $20)

Skychrono

I'd really had my head in the sand regarding this game. Wasn't interested at all for some reason - probably because I'm a 360 fanboy. Having just watched some videos after reading this article - WOW - can't wait to try it out.

And it's made by mancs!

IronsUK

@MehGinla:
100% maybe? Ask anyone who actually seen LBP and they say it's impressive.

enewtabie

I don't have or want a PS3

That being said, LBP looks bad ass.

I would like to play it very much.

karasu is my homeboy

@Saint Jonah:
Yes and Yes..It's more than just create some levels.

enewtabie

@Mpalm.: Sorry, I knew someone would jump on that - I meant to say "recent videos," or at least those with real enemies. The last gameplay videos I saw were back in March, with jumping on skateboards and climbing up mobiles.

A stupid minigame fest... hm. Well, it seems that this is similar - a quick graphics engine with nice shapes that have self-applied textures (Mii faces versus the admittedly better PS3 textures), a sensible physics engine, and a simple, easy to pick up premise. Maybe the comparison is more apt than you think.

@Neo-Senku: Mario Galaxy - which wasn't $60 - is a platformer that is closer to that value than this, in my mind. It's more fully realized, and you're paying for that innovation, not the chance to create your own. In a way, it's the difference between buying an artist's CD and buying a guitar - the guitar may give me more playtime, but I'm trying to hear something good from some one else.

@Benzak: I'm sorry, I do understand what you mean, but like I said a second ago... I hesitate to pay $60 for a Click-and-Play or something akin. I don't want to buy a game to hope someone makes something fun for it.

Skychrono

@MehGinla: That is the golden question.

Kanik

Looks amazing. I'm just curious about how created content is worked into the ecosystem.

On one hand, I look at Halo 3's forge, and what a disappointment it was. In short, building and sharing levels was a bit of a bust. Everyone just wants the Bungie levels.

On the other hand, I have great hope for Spore, since the creatures "created" by the player are naturally part of the gameplay. I think their idea of sharing entire species and civilizations is brilliant, mostly because it doesn't require extra effort by the creator or consumer.

In short, I wonder where LBP will fall between those two. Great looking game, though. Enough for a little PS3 envy :)

Snokie

@Skychrono:
Wait a minute..Your comparing Mario on DS to LittleBigPlanet.You obviously haven't seen anything on LBP have you?

enewtabie

Doesn't the game have a ready-to-go single player mode? Isn't the creation aspect in-addition to that? I doubt the game would just come with nothing and you have to make something in order to play.

So I guess my point is: why are people bitching about it JUST being a creation tool? It's not. At least I don't think. The fact is, even if you're too dumb to make anything yourself you can download levels from others. The gameplay and physics look amazing, and there will be a countless supply of levels/enemies/items/whatnot. How THAT isn't worth $60 but a 10 hour shooter is...well that's just simply retarded.

Saint Jonah

@Skychrono: What I was going to say to you has been summed up nicely by other people. You do not have a point and I hope you realize this sooner rather than later. If run of the mill sequels that are spit out like crappy Hollywood movies justify a $60 price tag, then this game justifies a $120 price tag. It plays in a different league.

Candlejack

@Skychrono: You're comparing a game like LBP to Wii Sports and judging a game that you haven't seen gameplay videos of let alone played... how can anyone think you're anything but retarded?

Durrr, I can draw my own levels on a piece of paper, this game shouldn't anymore than a piece of paper and a pencil.

I wonder if there are any games that you think should retail for $60.

ƒox

@Skychrono:

The point you are missing is that the entirety of the 50+ levels that come with the game are all created from the same tools available for creating our own levels.

This isnt some basic shape editor like SSBB, this is a fully physics enabled platform engine. The creation happens in real time actually a part of the main game experience.
Every item in the game has realistic physics, every item in the game is fully customisable.

You dont need to be a level designer, absolutely anything can be created.

Accordion

I wonder what the percentage of people who don't think it's worth 60$ don't have a PS3?

MehGinla

@Skychrono:
I think you should get informed and watch some videos from E3 and some gameplay.I'd say LBP is well worth the $60 and much better than some crap shovelware game or a rebadging of a old ip.Kind of hard to judge something you haven't seen.

Check out gametrailers.com or ign.com for some videos.

enewtabie

@Mpalm.: I'd venture a game with a bunch of mini-games that only 20% of them are not groan worthy.

MehGinla

@Skychrono: Okay, I see that you don't see the value in the game, at least not as much as $60. That's great! I'm not going to go all rawr on you like others might be tempted to. But I will point out that most of your points have already been rebutted, and quite nicely, mostly because you were so busy lambasting the 'lack of gameplay' aspect that you neglected to see that you were wrong about what LBP brings to the table. Case in point:

I hadn't seen the enemies in the game, since I hadn't seen any gameplay videos

Aaaaaand maybe that's why you're not 'getting' why people are so excited for the game. Methinks you should check out some gameplay vids, and then come back and demand that LBP sell for under what seems to be a poor price point for you if you still feel that way after, you know, actually viewing the game.

h445

"There's no reason technically why not."

I love you guys already...

fuchikoma

Well, Im with the people who cant see the big deal about this. Sure it looks fun but, it just doesn't seem like a $60 game. If I had a PS3 Id be much more hyped for R&C and R2. Maybe Im under estimated the level editor. I know I did that with Forge, i thought it wouldn't be a big deal, but people do some amazing stuff on it.

KaoKing

@noliferuin (PSN+XBL): And that's without taking into account that the Korn ragdoll was made by a fan for a fan art contest.

Kyolux

@Skychrono: Well, you're judging a game that you haven't seen any gameplay videos for? Plus, you're comparing it to a stupid minigame fest like wii sports that probably took 8 minutes to create?

Mpalm.

@Skychrono: What kind of game would you justify to be worth 60 bucks then?

Neo-Senku

For everyone who doesn't "get it" by now, you probably won't until you get your hands on the game.

A couple of things:

Yes, you can create your own stories (the latest video on GT shows a boss battle with dialogue).

You can create your own enemies, contraptions, background objects, textures, and even include pre-made objects as rewards for completing your level. They're basically handing us a simple to use physics based platform creation tool that is only limited by the user's imagination.

If you're not a visually creative person this game must look awfully boring, and I'm sorry.

If you think it should be a shooter you must not have noticed that every other game that comes out nowadays is a SHOOTER, unless you mean a shmup, in which case every other game that comes out on Xbox Live is a shmup!

Either way I'm sure it will be possible to at least make something that resembles Super Turrican.

Benzak

I was at first slow to warm up to this game… but now that I have seen and read a little more on it - I'm totally psyched and can't wait!

Office Ninja

Does that not beat "Im in some Crappy Movie"

rexor0717

@CockroachMan: Isn't the Sims one of the best selling franchises in history?

MehGinla

All this with youtube recording which they said they would do if the community wants it means that there will be full LBP movies. It would be so easy too.

rexor0717

@Skychrono:

nice

Accordion

@Skychrono: I also don't see this as a full price title at all. It might be ok for 30 bucks on PSN but other than that?
I personally don't care about creating anything because I won't be able to. I am not a level designer or an artist of any other sort. So what stays in it for me is a rather rudimentary (though fantastic looking) platformer which still has not sold me on the actual fun of playing it.

Starsky

@Captiosus: I am buying a ps3 for this...

Durid make hibernate

@Candlejack: Seriously, what's with people on this forum? Most of you are saying that "well, it's impossible to talk through this, so this guy must be functionally retarded."

I hadn't seen the enemies in the game, since I hadn't seen any gameplay videos - I'm glad that I was wrong about that. But art assets alone do not justify a price tag like that. New Super Mario Brothers was, what, $35 on release? $30? It comes with tools to make your own game, but that isn't what you pay for.

The next-gen of platforming games really should have something more than Castle Infinity did in 1997.

The reason I think it should be free is to attract people, like Wii Sports did, as you may have skimmed over. Perhaps Nintendo was doing it right.

Skychrono

@Skychrono: So the game isn't out yet and you are already judging that it's not worth 60 dollars. Interesting.

Mpalm.

@Candlejack: Yeah! She had been pushing us getting it for a while and she just used my birthday as an excuse. Now she is pushing for the surround sound.

@TitillatedOcelot: Pain is a fun game. So cool that is was included for free with the bundle. My wife is all into grabbing the old lady and tossing her ass in the subway!

alexander

I guarantee I'll get many more hours out of LBP then most games that fall under a $60 retail, that you can complete in 6-8 hours.

ƒox

So about the multiplayer, is it going to have a matchmaking system? Or will I finally be forced to make some friends so I can invite them to a game?

PissedPS3Fan

This is the only game my little sister has been looking forward to and thus I must buy it for her. Looks like a good multiplayer game tho

silentknome

i will be buying a ps3 for this title alone

crobar

@Skychrono: Are you crazy or something? It's a modern day platformer - dare I say it - the next-gen of platforming games. And you say it doesn't justify a full retail price tag with all the stuff it comes with? So every old-day platformer should have been free as well I guess. Nintendo must have been doing it wrong.

Thank god there are enough people in the world that think straight about it and thus warrant a game like this being made.

Candlejack

@Mpalm.: Ah, your chilling rhetoric. I apologize.

Of course games cost money, and resources, but this would be a good app to put with a system to bring gamers in - like Wii Sports did for the Wii. Instead, PS3 is getting Home for free, which is a lot less interesting.

It looks like fun, but not $60 worth. And, like someone said above, it seems like it could be the next Line Rider. I hope the included stuff is good, and not just whimsical, or else it will get boring quickly and we'll have to hope someone creates the next Tower Defense with the in-game tools.

Skychrono

@Skychrono: You don't get it.. and it sounds like you never will. Its ok we forgive you.

Rabidsquirrel

@Skychrono:
It has enemies and mini bosses and bosses.I don't think you really comprehend what goes into producing a game like LittleBigPlanet by your last comment to say it should be cheaper or free.If you have a PS3,give it a try in October.I think you'll probably change your mind.

enewtabie

It's astounding to me that anything that's not a 3D shooter is labeled "kiddy", "for girls" or "casual".

Is that what you "hardcore" gamers have turned gaming into? If that's the case, I think I hate hardcore gamers.

Saint Jonah

@Mpalm.: Just as interesting as you (and the others saying they'll buy a PS3 just for this) judging that it is made of "pure win" before it's even out yet.

I'm sorry, but as cool as this game looks, it's not enough to sell massive amounts of systems. It's a $560 game that way, when all you have are a niche game and a few shooters to accompany it.

I'll save the $560 and watch the funnier user-created levels on youtube.

Farlander29

@thegunshow: ...what? Are you consciously saying these things? Just, out of no where?

Money for games for any system, if you own them all or just one of them, comes from the same wallet. You make budgeting decisions and measure worth. I'm doing that, whether or not you agree with the judgment. Please do grow up.

@enewtabie: That's pretty cool.

SomethingAwful WILL penis-up this game very soon.

Skychrono

@KaneRobot: I agree, awesome ending line.

gipmah

I hope there's a special edition...with a little Sackboy plush.

Kanik

@NovaBlack: Nothing stopping the more experienced player to stop and wait for the other guy. How I understand the game play some levels need teamwork so they'd have to stay together.

Anyway, if the lesser player gets stuck at an obstacle or keep getting left behind the better player would probably drop the connection outright, no fun in that.

Starcraft2008

@bobtheduck: Hehe, I liked when people lambasted Insomniac for implying that Shiggy may have borrowed the ideas from Ratchet and Clank for Super Mario Galaxy.

Showed me how truly vicious those Nintendo Fanboys are. /shudder

Aex

i bet anything Micro$oft is waiting, tiger-like in the shadows, with truckloads of cash, ready to pull another "Final Fantasy" style swipe :) god that would kick mountains of ass!!

F22

@enewtabie:
That sounds very assholish of me..Sorry
I'm just a big supporter of LBP:)

enewtabie

Blah blah blah. This, this is the reason I'll pickup a PS3.

suntorytime

@keyrat:
You can also take the 50 levels in game and redo them however you want.

enewtabie

@Skychrono: Now I see where you're coming from. You just can't understand the fact that this is a PS3 game and not Nintendo so you're forcing yourself to just hate on this game. Give it up man, you know just because you own a Wii doesn't mean you can't buy a PS3. I think you're just arguing just to get attention and guess what, you got it. Now GTFO.

thegunshow

@Skychrono: Yea. Okay. But LBP will never be the "pack-in" collection of mini games that should appeal to your grandparents. Is Gears packed with every Xbox? Halo even? No. But they still sell/sold remarkably well and drove console sales and marketing campaigns for the console.

I'm only bringing up that comparison so that you might understand how excited people for LittleBigPlanet are. Yes, it's that awesome, accept it. :)

Candlejack

@ƒox: Sorry, I meant "are people who don't generally like creating things."

ƒox

@ƒox:
agreed..stick to something else.Like rolling a ball of junk around.

enewtabie

Why the game is worth $60:

-It has a full featured single player with more than 50 levels.

-It has the kind of graphics you would expect of a fully featured next gen game; this doesn't look like a Pixel Junk game (which are good too).

-4 player offline co-op.

-A level editor that virtually guarantees that those 50 levels that come included will only be the tip of the iceberg of what you can download to expand the experience.

-A level editor which works in 4 player co-op.

keyrat

Sackboy lip-synching? *Fap. Fap. Fap.*

Jimbuck

@bobtheduck:
If Nintendo did that..Mario fans would shit a brick and doves would fly out.It would be spectacular.

enewtabie

@bobtheduck: This game is a spiritual successor/cross between Castle Infinity and Second Life, all considered, with a single-player game added.

Skychrono

I think the people who don't get it aren't people who don't generally like creating things. I could (and probably will) spend countless hours creating my own levels in this game. As someone (who's currently a design major) who grew up playing with Legos and K-nex and doodling all sorts of schematics for various things in notebooks just for fun, there is a lot of appeal and value in a game like this to me (even more when you add in the multiplayer aspect). If you can't possibly see in fun in this, you probably never will and this probably isn't the right game for you.

ƒox

@Candlejack: I don't think that we could argue on that stance without more data - I feel like offering it for free with a new advertising campaign for the PS3 would pay for itself. I don't think you do. Difference of opinion that we could never solve.

I feel like Wii Sports sold enough Wiis that the Wii Sports team not making as much money per sale was very, very quickly justified.

Skychrono

@Skychrono:
Yea,I've played it then. Different is right...lol

enewtabie

@enewtabie: Wouldn't be the first time Nintendo did that... Crush had one mechanic that made it what it is, and that's switching between 2D and 3D... After it was announced, they showed off the 2D 3D mechanic in Super Paper Mario...

I laugh when I hear people say Nintendo innovates and everyone else steals... Everyone steals... Except Apple, though sometimes I wish they did because "innovation" only gets you so far.

bobtheduck

@Snokie: A bundle with console is different from selling the game on PSN for sub-£30, is it not?

And a bundle doesn't mean that the game is for free, either...totally besides the fact that a good bundle like the MGS4 one was sold out instantaneously and then went over the retail price of $499 on every occasion.

@Skychrono: I don't pay more for innovation. What I was trying to get across is that fresh and unique ideas deserve more attention than all those sequels. Platforming or not, LBP is a game that reinvents the dying genre, a bit like Mirror's Edge. I do understand what you meant now. But LBP is far from a title like WiiSports. FAR from it. A bundle would only make sense in the way that MGS4 had one. To spike console sales a bit additionally to the increase just from the game.

Candlejack

The more I see and read about this game the more I want it. I would love to wow my boss with a LBP presentation at work, then go home and play some remade Mario levels :)

ichiban1081

@Skychrono:

Just like to reassure you that those who reply with all the great points about this game are doing so because you dont understand it.

I am replying because you are talking absolute chocolate coated bollocks about something you have no interest in

Accordion

@enewtabie: Yes. It also "plays in a different league."

@Accordion: Ah, so the $60 difference in price is the layering, to you?

Skychrono

@Skychrono:
Maybe I'm wrong but Katmari is where you try to roll up as much junk into a ball in a certain time period?

enewtabie

Mario Paint was worth $60.

Just sayin'...

Saint Jonah

well if it comes with

"fully realized 50+ level platforming game with 4 player co-op, online or off, and a storyline"

im in, SONY needs to show this part of the game more

scdnyc

I bet Nintendo copies this with a newer Mario.It would be better than all the other stuff hitting the Wii.

enewtabie

@Skychrono:

Alright, i agree JKKDRK. The Mii creation system is extensive enough to create thousands upon thousands of multi layered characters as well as thousands upon thousands of entire platform games…

…how do i access that part of the Mii creator again?

Accordion

@enewtabie: But Katamari Damacy came out when other games were $50-$55! It wasn't like games of the era were $20.

And other free software that people use that required teams: Wii Sports, Paint.net, GIMP, Linux, HOME...

@Benzak: That's a pretty good analogy actually, nice. I agree that it's overpriced to me, but having the guitar is nice because... others will use it I suppose.

I don't think that people realize that I KNOW it has a single-player, but that I was underwhelmed. Like I said, the videos I saw were from the skateboard/mobile days.

Skychrono

@Skychrono:
ah,I think I see what you are saying..but it doesnt really come across like that.It looks like your saying LBP isn't worth $60.

I imagine a LBP bundle is almost a certainity at this point.

enewtabie

@StorminNorman: The Battles track? Go get Mirrored. >_>

Hello fellow hyperino btw! >_>

Mamba

My most anticipated game of 2008 (yes, including GTA4)

magictroll

I'm with the "I do not get it" people

there is never any info on the single player part of the game, More and more it sounds like a big online map editor - and a hint of a social network - at 60 bucks thats a no go for me either.

If they come out with some single player story mode info, I'm back onboard (I thought thats what this was going to be)

scdnyc

This game is going to provide hours of entertainment. Even for those that don't own it!

Thanks YouTube

Aex

LBP is quite possibly, the cutest video game ever made.

PrivateJ0ker

@Accordion: Self-applied = applied by the user. Either through the Mii creation system or through HD/PS Eye.

I didn't miss anything, sir.

Skychrono

@Snokie: You might see that..

enewtabie

@Farlander29:
Ok so you being wrong in your numbers makes me a fanboy how?

Kyolux

@Accordion:

Thank you very much for the info! I'm looking forward to this game much more, as a result. Could I implore anyone to make a Toejam and Earl level? ;D

c0rnpwn

I preordered from EBGames like a month ago. I don't even own a PS3 yet! It actually wouldn't surprise me to see a LBP bundle with an 80GB PS3. If it shows up then I'll just get that instead.

ReadNLearn

@rhoq: Thank you! :D

Kanik

@c0rnpwn:

Levels can be uploaded, linked to create continuing stories or collections. Objects that feature in a level can be awarded to players meaning you could create a simple trophy for others to collect, or give away a gameplay item you made such as a cannon or level structure.

Levels can also be rated so people who dont feel confident about creating themselves can always have access to the best of the community

Accordion

@Farlander29: Wait. So you don't like Halo, a game which has sold a ton, but then say that poor PS3 game sales = bad games...so therefore good sales = a good game...but again, you don't like halo...

I just got a nose bleed.

Kanik

@Farlander29: You've apparently confused "truth" with "your opinion". Or tossed a little of one with whole bunch of the other into a blender until it was the consistency of lukewarm barf. Thanks for that.

TitillatedOcelot

@Farlander29:
Yes,it sales were lackluster..lol 1.3million in a week is lack luster.God the fanboys are getting dumber these days.

enewtabie

@thegunshow: In the same way that bundles always generate interest? Mario for the NES? Pictochat for the DS? Demo disks for the PSX? Solitare for the PC, even? Free stuff never hurts, as c0rnpwn thankfully pointed out.

I didn't demand it be free, but that would make it SO MUCH BETTER. If the biggest draw of the game is the user-added content, giving it to the users, like Second Life or something, would only be helpful to the community.

@jpneiswi: Thank God. I would never, EVER pay for *that*, even if it were cheap.

Skychrono

ok how cool wuold it be to have A Little big planet PS3 with some awsome like painting on it or have it be green or some realy cool texture?

Rage142

Well. This may very well be the best thing that mankind has ever done. Closely followed by air conditioners.

DarkGildon

@Kyolux: Oh, only $460, that makes it all better. fanboy..

Farlander29

@Skychrono: Someone on the first page of comments had a link to a g4 video that has a sweet level, so at least you can see what an updated level with enemies looks like

The explosions at the end are great!

jpneiswi

@Candlejack: The truth, eh? Ok, then.. the niche game I was referring to is MGS4. Yes, it's niche, because it's sales are lackluster and the only vocal supporters are those who want to have Hideo's babies. If Halo 3 (a game I neither own nor like) can blow your 10+ year old franchise out of the water, you have fucking problems.

As for the rest of the games, it's a fucking wash, and the sales numbers prove that as well. "2008 is the year of the PS3", HAH!

Farlander29

@Farlander29: $560? More like $460..? (that was probably already pointed out too)

Kyolux

Wow...seeing the number of folks who bought or are planning to buy a PS3 based on this game, Sony would be batshit insane to not do a LBP bundle. They'll make an adorable SackBoy KILLING!

TitillatedOcelot

@Snokie: Home is free, so if they have a PS3/LBP bundle, you'll get Home too (whenever it comes out).

jpneiswi