Booooo. Am I the only person who likes to see some feuding?

Lixie

@Raziel Dune: Make them apologize for making crappy games.

Mr.DuckSauce

@wild homes is weathering cephalopod trouble!: So they're more miss than hit but they did make Spiderman, Spiderman 2 and Ultimate Spiderman which were all pretty good games IMO.

Mommar

Too late, guys. I'm not spending my $60 on your WWII rehash, only so that you can trash developers far more talented than you.

HaydenTenno

@DukeOfPwn:
The guy that said it was from Activision, not Treyarch.

It's good that this was written. It makes Heller look like more like a jackass, since he's got only himself to stand by the statement.
Instead of a being the head of a cocky company, he's just a prick now.

Coquiton

Activision must be feeling pretty comfortable throwing around GH games left and right.

DigiMish

Why doesn't the Treyarch team start throwing stones in the glass houses Eidos and Codemasters built with Conflict Denied Ops and Turning Point? Ah, the middle school recess session that game blog journalism can become at times!

gameware

Somebody needs to keep that moron on a leash. People are already walking into World At War with high skepticism due to Treyarch's less then impressive previous efforts on Call of Duty, and Hell's Highway already looks like a game thats going to be giving COD5 some strong competition for best WWII shooter this year; Last thing Activision needs is some dope shooting his mouth off and making people even less interested then they already were.

I hope the higher-up's put Heller in his place by putting a diaper on his mouth. Just to make sure no more bullshit will fly out of it.

KeroseneClimax

I kept thinking how Gearbox would respond. I'd like to think it'd be something like "Weren't these the guys who made a Call of Duty, and they weren't named Infinity Ward?"

...Lame. I know.

NathanX

Translation:

"Those guys from the interview might not, but we would like to let the community know Treyarch as a whole does realize we are mediocre and are in no way, shape or form in a "whole other league" than any developer. Unless a lower one. Hugs and kisses."

karasu is my homeboy

*lowers pitchfork*

Damn.

...

I mean, hugs! I want hugs!

Troubadour

The fact that Treyarch are saying nice things to a rival developer because of what was said by an Activision guy- that gives me some respect for them.

I like seeing people getting along, because we've always got the whole Itagaki thing for drama, and trash talking usually comes off as juvenile.

Krondonian

Internet drama.

Bleh

sean09

Best he never make those remarks again (not like Treyarch is even worth making them to begin with). The game community is young and only just starting out, we don't need developers shouting out who's got the bigger dick. Respect between colleagues should be the norm in all media, I'd hate to see games get worse.

Absent Blue

"...does not in any way represent the feelings of any developer at this studio..."
I doubt the guy who made the remarks doesn't feel that way, or else he wouldn't have said it.

DukeOfPwn

Damn right you better say your sorry.

Raziel Dune

Leash your damn dogs, Treyarch.

ChiChi_BBQ

Awesome. Next headline needs to read Treyarch Offers Good Game to Videogame Consumers. That'd be a fucking coup.

Hacks.

wild homes is weathering cephalopod trouble!

2 men enter, 1 man leaves! 2 men enter, 1 man leaves! 2 men enter, 1 man leaves!

THUNDERDOME!!!!!

oh? The drama is over already? NUTS.

ExistentialEgg

Yay internet drama, who has the popcorn, this is going to be goooood. :D

kumuasata

That still doesn't help that it was said in the first place.

Kaizuden

Yawn ... drama that happens in Hollywood and politics is now spilling into gaming.

EnigmaNemesis

Good. Fucking tired of seeing big-shot producers acting like spoiled celebrities.

Ashurahori

I don't even get why the producer would feel like he would have to make the remark. Brothers in Arms and Call of Duty have established themselves as the polar opposites in the World War 2 FPS genre. While one is about cinematic displays of bravado, the other delves into portraying an authentic and tragic depiction of the war. Really I don't see why either game shouldn't have a place in video games.

Iceking5

Great, now all we need is a offensive reply from GB and a tagging "I'm sorry, here is chicken soup" post.

PsycheE

Repeat after me, folks.

AN ACTIVISION GUY TRASHED GEARBOX, NOT TREYARCH
AN ACTIVISION GUY TRASHED GEARBOX, NOT TREYARCH
AN ACTIVISION GUY TRASHED GEARBOX, NOT TREYARCH
AN ACTIVISION GUY TRASHED GEARBOX, NOT TREYARCH
AN ACTIVISION GUY TRASHED GEARBOX, NOT TREYARCH

All this Treyarch hate is pretty goddamn unfair especially considering that they never even antagonized anyone. Also, they made Ultimate Spider-Man.

riffleraffle

Treyarch? lolololololololololololol...Didn't they make that POS named Call of Duty 3 that was mistaken for a video game?

IMarcus

@Mommar: I liked the first Spider-Man quite a bit, but I found the 'open-world' approach of the second game to be neat but filled with nothing interesting to do at all. And Ultimate Spider-Man I found to be visually quite nice but the gameplay was pretty dull. Of course, we all have different opinions. Cheers!

wild homes is weathering cephalopod trouble!

@Krondonian: Realistically, developers probably talk shit about each other all the time. But I know the Europeans are way more likely to quote someone speaking 'off the record' than the US guys.

omnibot2000XL

So...

It turns out it wasn't Treyarch in the first place, and moreover, Treyarch actually have the balls to stand up to the publisher and say they disagree with the sentiments and apologise to Gearbox...

So, do you reckon we are we going to see apologies from the following people for their attacks on Treyarch in the first post???

@Tob3z:
@Raziel Dune:
@wild homes is weathering cephalopod trouble!:
@silkysm00th:
@Lackshmana:
@TOWER_JUNKIE:

Etcetera ...

FunkyJ

If this follows the typical American trend, Heller will be forced to enter 'developer sensitivity training' for his apparent mental instablity.
YAWN

BigWyrm

When did Activision get taken over by a douche squad? This really sucks for Treyarch, having the publisher drag them down with his arrogance and douche-ness. First Kotick's ridiculous pretending Rock Band doesn't exist, now this horseshit. Way to undercut your developers and gain notoriety as a dickwad at the same time.

otakuhouse

Meanwhile, Infinity Ward counts money.

The_Catalpa

@karasu is my homeboy:

this!

Pete193

@The_Catalpa: You mean Activision right?

balls187 upside yo head

@DukeOfPwn: He wasn't a dev. He was a rep for Activision, the publisher.

@FunkyJ: I apologize. I was up in arms about Treyarch shooting off their mouth without having the ammo to back it up.

balls187 upside yo head

@FunkyJ:

Nicely put.

Shabat0ge

I haven't commented on any of this yet, but I would like to say that this is really cool of Treyarch to come out from under the Activision umbrella and call them on their BS. Kudos fellas, seriously.

I'll be giving your new COD game a nice long look just for this reason. Much respect.

chuffhoncho

The damage has been done though.

ShizzleBeef

they should already know... never burn any bridges... in this small industry.. next thing u know when ur out of job, people will remember u...

darktorns

@KeroseneClimax: Agreed on all your points.

@darktorns: Like Gerstmann from Gamespot.

I usually tend to respect developers unless they develop shovelware (look at about half the Wii games at Wal-Mart), buy smaller companies to do their dirty work for them (EA), or arrogant developers who think their game is going to kick so much ass when it's mediocore at best (Ubisoft and Activision). This is a classic example of somebody putting their own foot in their mouth.

Fireblast

Oh come on, why do these things always get so huge? People need to take less offense to the littlest remark by one person.

Talleh

@Kaizuden:

Indeed!
{SLAP}
Pistols at Dawn!

Producers generally work for publishers. Don't trash the devs.

Snokie

@Troubadour: Hug!

NeVeRMoRe666

That´s not how you start a world war... :D

Akomander

Nheller@activision.com

Now, I'm just gonna stand back and let the fireworks fly....

Suckerfree

The previous comment by Treyarch team filled me with rage beyond that I have had with any EA Game Developer before it. I cannot believe a company would be so blind that they cannot realize that their greatest competition is making an amazing game so the only thing they can do is insult it. I'm glad that the company isn't full of people like that, at least the Community manager realized this and apologized.

Their last game call of duty 3 was a complete bore, i had more fun digging out my copy of Call of Duty for the xbox and playing it again.

masterhobbes

Great, now just apologise for CoD3 and all will be forgiven.

Clushje

Oh sorry my ass. They are just saying that cuz they know there games suck and they don't want more gamers to hate them. Too fuckin late.

Invert-Blu

Hell, you can tell by watching the video of that interview that the other Treyarch guy was backing away from Heller while he was flapping his prodigious jowls. His comments were way off base and really made him look like a douchebag. Worse, his comments cast a pall over the entire Treyarch team, which really isn't fair. They're now all associated with that one dick running his mouth.

MSUSteve

@Talleh:

It's not some fanboy rant on some forum. It's a representative of an entire industry. There is reason for Gearbox, and the consumers, to be a little less than pleased. I still think that guy should've been fired for those remarks.

Lazlo

ZOMG!!! NOAH HELLER UNDER PROMISES AND OVER DELIVERS!

CaptainCougar

Mahahaha classic, a big call when all you can go by is a trailer. If he's played the game fine but basing his opinions on a trailer that is funny.

For the record if you compare BIAHH and COD5 trailers, BIA has it won hands down IMO.

BenMiz