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Xbox 360 Getting a 3D Dashboard Make-Over?
Posted by Brian Crecente at 7:02 AM on July 2, 2008
The rumoured Xbox 360 Spring Update might not have hit yet, but we know something big is in the works for the console's dashboard.
How big? Well besides the gi-normous list of rumoured updates we posted about back in May we're now hearing from a number of sources that the Live dashboard is going to be getting a second interface option, one that will use the yet-to-be announced motion controller to navigate.
This new user interface, we've been told, will recreate the increasingly cluttered dashboard "blade" system in a 3D environment that will be something more akin to the Minority Report than a filing cabinet. The motion controls will allow users to sort of slide through the different levels of this floating menu system.
Sounds like a fantastic idea, if it can be implemented correctly.

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SamStride
Posted 8:30 AM 2/7/08
I think the post hinted that the old one will be retained and the new one introduced so people get to choose.
Personally i'm pretty interested in the new so called float UI and damn interested in the new controller.
SamStride
AngelMayLaugh
Posted 8:28 AM 2/7/08
@Trust me, I'm a doctor: I don't see what insulting his GF has to do with this dashboard discussion.
I've only played the X360 a few times and it does lag some, but I barely noticed it(Well I rarely went into the dashboard when I played).
AngelMayLaugh
GOD
Posted 8:27 AM 2/7/08
@Trust me, I'm a doctor: And I should trus you bacause you'r a dactor?
Sorry mate, but I though the idiot comments were just coming from sniper13x.
The point I was making...
My girlfriend, who is not a big gamer, has these opinions.
As opposed to our opinions the are the opinions of geeks.
I can safely say that I am a geek. I don't find anything wrong with that. I know how to use the Xbox live dashbord, but I also know it is a big mess when you put it in front of a pair of fresh eyes (NOT OUT GEEK EYES).
Sometimes you need to take a step back and look at what you have in front of you.
GOD
muu
Posted 8:22 AM 2/7/08
I'm used to the 360 UI the way it is; assuming this is legit I do hope classic mode is built in.
Would be really cool if it turns out to be some sort of always-on flipdown menu that you can use in conjunction w/ your controller though.
muu
HotFootMcCook
Posted 8:09 AM 2/7/08
I've never actually had a problem with any UI to date, at least I don't recall.
This would further me from my 360 though, with my new PC an all :P
HotFootMcCook
GDW1017
Posted 8:08 AM 2/7/08
@sniper13x: I know the truth can be difficult to accept, but with some therapy and a box of kittens we can get your cold, cynical heart through this here ordeal.
Anyways, on to worth while discussion, the 3D aspect could be an interesting addition (so long as I don't need the extra controller). Though, if anything I'd just be happy with load time and organization improvements. Unless there is a click-able ad you have to usually go through a couple panels to get what you want, which in the short run isn't much, it builds up after going through the motions for a while. Sometimes you'll even have to go down long and exhausting lists to boot. Still, I do enjoy the blades, I just want the trip into them to be simpler and/or quicker.
GDW1017
Elemence
Posted 8:08 AM 2/7/08
I dont understand whats so difficult about the Live interface? Personally when I navigate the Settings tab in the XMB all I find is one huge clusterfuck...aside that all interfaces work great imo...
Elemence
red
Posted 8:08 AM 2/7/08
JALLARD! WE LOVE YOUUUUU
red
TRT-X
Posted 8:05 AM 2/7/08
If the motion system is OPTIONAL (since I doubt I'll climb on board that bandwagon) it's not a problem.
If they force the new layout on EVERYBODY and make it difficult to navigate without motion...urk.
TRT-X
Parsifal
Posted 8:04 AM 2/7/08
Personal view: The XMB, at its /top tier/ is a good idea. It provides a quick way to hop from content type to type. The problem is that not only do you get tons of little options with absolutely no explanation, but when it comes to doing something like browsing your pictures of music, there is no clear organization. It's all just thrown onto the bar and you have to go scrolling up and down to see it.
With the X360 dashboard, you do have a bit more user friendlyness and plenty of explanation of what's what and chances to browse content on menus. The problems with that interface is that it is kind of slow (as has already been mentioned). Previously if you wanted to go from music to pictures to movies, you had to exit out all the way back up to the top of the tree, and then go diving back into another content area. After the last update though, Microsoft added a sort of "mini-xmb" to the tops of their menu system. While you're browsing in on content you can hop laterally to other types. This is also evident in the Live shop. Drop into icons or demos or what have you, and you can now use the bumpers to jump to another section. That was a great improvement over the original scheme of things.
Parsifal
Crab_Botherer
Posted 8:04 AM 2/7/08
You know whats wrong with the above image?
NOTHING. This image is perfect. My eyes are not worthy enough to view it.
Crab_Botherer
Nexus6
Posted 8:02 AM 2/7/08
@.endejas.: OMG you have to wait a a couple seconds !!! I WANTZ NANOSECONDZ DASHBOARD !
Nexus6
Trust me, I'm a doctor
Posted 8:02 AM 2/7/08
@GOD: Just because your girlfriend is over educated doesn't mean she has common sense, which is evidently what it takes to understand these horribly confusing pieces of technology. And since when is any degree, regardless of title, in psyche supposed to be impressive? I've known plenty of undergrad, grad, and doctoral level psyche majors and most of them are morons. Hence why psychology is their chosen field of study. Having a PhD in Cognitive and Behavioral Psychology only means she knows how to write papers on people who are messed up in the head.
Trust me, I'm a doctor
GOD
Posted 8:02 AM 2/7/08
@sniper13x: MATE! I'm an Xbox gamer I completed halo 3 on day one on Elite. I probably have a better gamerscore than most.
Unlike you i can take a step back and see the pros and cons of all three, and how easy each of them is to use.
Also. You just don't go around insulting peoples girlfriends. Just insult me. Like a the bigger boys do.
GOD
F22
Posted 8:02 AM 2/7/08
hahaha thats a great image for the header
F22
bubble-bee
Posted 8:00 AM 2/7/08
If true! if good! I'll want this!
bubble-bee
Gutter_Trash
Posted 7:59 AM 2/7/08
they seriously need to do something to make the BLADES interface faster.. it is so slow as heck, especially getting into sub-menus for XBLA games
if the 3D interface makes it even slower than it's not a good idea.
simple, fast, efficient,, that is what the need to do
Gutter_Trash
xMindPrintsx
Posted 7:58 AM 2/7/08
@Trust me, I'm a doctor: LOLOLOL
xMindPrintsx
.endejas.
Posted 7:57 AM 2/7/08
@sniper13x: You're the one that's trolling.
He's stating the opinion of someone he knew, which he happened to agree with. Then you attacked that someone, and you still can't understand, no comprehend, that someone might like another UI compared to the dashboard.
.endejas.
xMindPrintsx
Posted 7:56 AM 2/7/08
I'm just excited about the possibility of having a four person private chat! It's needed. Of course, my 360 just suffered from an E74 hardware error and will need to be sent back. . . . I guess if anything exciting happens between now and when I get it back, I'll hear about it here.
xMindPrintsx
obonicus
Posted 7:56 AM 2/7/08
Is there a source for this? I mean, we have two debunked rumors linked, what are the multiple sources for this story?
obonicus
sniper13x
Posted 7:56 AM 2/7/08
I have a PhD in random profession that makes my point seem more valid too, i got it at the university of phoenix.
sniper13x
Trust me, I'm a doctor
Posted 7:55 AM 2/7/08
If the dashboard of any console confuses you, maybe games aren't your bag. Go and get your VCR to stop flashing 12:00 instead.
Trust me, I'm a doctor
Wolfers
Posted 7:55 AM 2/7/08
@Candlejack: Right on target.
Wolfers
Klappstuhl
Posted 7:55 AM 2/7/08
NEXT GEN B*'CHES!
Klappstuhl
bubble-bee
Posted 7:55 AM 2/7/08
@nip: Yea, really a good idea... :))
bubble-bee
Amazon_Chris
Posted 7:53 AM 2/7/08
The Dashboard would be ten times better if they didn't clutter it with ads for everything that comes out on this damn planet.
Amazon_Chris
sniper13x
Posted 7:53 AM 2/7/08
@Erwin: The guy was obviously trolling. Owning both a ps3 and a 360, only a moron would think its easier to navigate through the ps3 one.
sniper13x
bubble-bee
Posted 7:53 AM 2/7/08
@everybest: I think ps3 needs better organization too. The X360 dashboard is very good, anyway. You must be familiar, and everything becomes simple...
bubble-bee
aden.exe
Posted 7:52 AM 2/7/08
The current dashboard interface is fine, design wise. Its just slow as everyone has already said. They should just focus on getting the current design to run at a reasonable speed in game, before trying to make a 3D one.
Having said that, this new controller has got to be stopped. You cannot add motion sensing to your console when its already 3 years old, you just can't do it.
aden.exe
Aion
Posted 7:51 AM 2/7/08
@excel_excel: That's right, one SPE and the 70-80 MB of memory everyone complained about are allocated to the OS. But I think the console is already fully using those; that would explain why it took them so long. But I'm not an expert, so I can only guess, really...
Aion
Cake_Eater
Posted 7:51 AM 2/7/08
I, personally, prefer the XMB not because of the organization, though that is a strength for Sony's console, but mostly because it's snappy. I'm bothered by the lag that pops up when I'm in the main dashboard screen and I'm downright frustrated by it when I'm in game trying to send a message to a friend. The consoles are just about on par in terms of hardware capability so why is it that Sony's implementation is much smoother? I don't want a UI redesign Microsoft, I want code optimization. I think Microsoft's ideals on this point can best be summed up in a quote from Bill Gates:
"The reason we come up with new versions is not to fix bugs," Gates said. "It's absolutely not. It's the stupidest reason to buy a new version I ever heard. When we do a new version we put in lots of new things that people are asking for. And so, in no sense, is stability a reason to move to a new version. It's never a reason."
I really hope that Microsoft thinks that over because it seems that every time a seasonal dashboard update rolls around I get a ton of new features that bog down the system. Maybe I'm an anomaly in that I want a video game console that will at least display my menu's quickly and smoothly as opposed to one that'll try and make me pancakes after I wrestle with the tabs for a bit.
Cake_Eater
GOD
Posted 7:50 AM 2/7/08
@sniper13x: I'll brush that comment off like it didn't mean anything.
4 points
I have one!
Her having a PhD in cognitive and behavioral psychology makes her not a moron.
I am GOD!
and...
Who are you?
GOD
ChiChi_BBQ
Posted 7:50 AM 2/7/08
The blades UI does look cluttered and perform clunky; in making this switch to the Minority Report-ish interface, performance should also be more responsive, and MS should release a first party controller with a more functional d-pad.
ChiChi_BBQ
Amazon_Chris
Posted 7:49 AM 2/7/08
Eh. Not a big fan of the Dashboard. IT feels too cluttered for my tastes.
Amazon_Chris
C22DBlueKnightOne
Posted 7:49 AM 2/7/08
Oooo. Do I get those cool half-gloves with the LED's in the fingers like in Minority Report? Does it come with opera tracks to download to the HDD?
C22DBlueKnightOne
Erwin
Posted 7:48 AM 2/7/08
@Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer: He's had plenty. Remember the immaculate conception? Oh yeah. God gets shit done.
@sniper13x: Well that was uncalled for. Really, if the average person has difficulty with a UI then it fails. Simple as that.
Erwin
Datheron
Posted 7:48 AM 2/7/08
@L337fool: The entire point of designing user interfaces is to make the task of dealing with a bunch of options earlier to manage, along with giving a nice aesthetic vibe. OSX is at least as complicated as any version of Windows, but is widely praised for having a simple and effective UI that makes tasks very easy to perform.
In short, just because you have "a lot you can do" is no excuse for coming up with a cruddy UI.
Datheron
boopadoo
Posted 7:48 AM 2/7/08
Are they porting Vista to 360s now? This sounds a lot like the Aero interface.
I'm all for it, as long as it doesn't affect game performance. The blade UI is outdated; it needs an upgrade.
boopadoo
Eon.
Posted 7:45 AM 2/7/08
I think this is a great idea, I was just thinking the other day how I hate the current dashboard. My prayers have been answered, yay!
Eon.
gamadaya
Posted 7:45 AM 2/7/08
@Candlejack:
Nothing to apologize for.
I don't know why this is necessary. The dashboard works fine as it is. I know a lot of people complain about it, but I assume that those people have never used a PC before, and if they did, their heads would explode. Seriously, compared to any computer interface, the dashboard is extremely simple.
gamadaya
Kazama Sogetsu
Posted 7:45 AM 2/7/08
New 3D dashboard? Fine. But I don't want to wave my hands in the air to navigate through it.
Kazama Sogetsu
everybest
Posted 7:45 AM 2/7/08
I don't have a 360 but I have seen the LIVE tabs and those could use some organizing. Hopefully not requiring the use of the "motion sensor" because that'd piss me off.
everybest
D3m0n1k_Ang3l
Posted 7:44 AM 2/7/08
@Atheist Jew: I actually like it the way it is, and i really dont want to have to buy a POS montion sensing controller just to navigate the damn dashboard, if its not navigational by reg. controller.
D3m0n1k_Ang3l
bubble-bee
Posted 7:42 AM 2/7/08
Interesting ideas are coming into play... lets see how everything handles... But probably everything will come for a new console...maybe not this one. They may be working in something to be released in 2011. Who knows?
bubble-bee
Datheron
Posted 7:42 AM 2/7/08
@sniper13x: Well.
Good UI is supposed to be usable and understandable to its users. If you have people confused and frustrated b/c you put too many options, tabs, and controls on your pages, even if it gives you access to some really cool functionality...it's bad UI.
There's no such thing as "UI for smart users"; it's more like "stupid UI designer".
Datheron
Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer
Posted 7:42 AM 2/7/08
@GOD: Wait...God...has a girlfriend?
Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer
GOD
Posted 7:42 AM 2/7/08
@DukeOfPwn: Candlejack does not troll. It's true. The consoles are pushed to their limits by developers. It's a tight squeeze getting extra out of your OS. Only last generation you got what you were given from the start, and you had to stick with it! (Maybe not so for the XBOX, but noone had one of those...)
GOD
GorbyGipper
Posted 7:42 AM 2/7/08
The Wii interface was really cool for me....until I realized that there wasn't much to it. It's very clean, very Mac, but devoid of much to do.
Granted, I use my 360 for streaming video and music from my PC and I don't use those functions at all on the Wii....maybe that's swayed my opinion a bit...
GorbyGipper
L337fool
Posted 7:41 AM 2/7/08
I own both consoles and I take the blades over xmb anyday. Anyone complaining about there being too much stuff to go through needs to seriously think about the fact that there is actually something to go through as opposed to the alreternative.
L337fool
excel_excel
Posted 7:41 AM 2/7/08
@Aion: There was always a PS3 core reserved exclusively for XMB, it can't be touched for anything else
excel_excel
mangajunky
Posted 7:41 AM 2/7/08
All I'd like to do is be able to search the DLC without scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and ooops I hit the left directional...good grief.
mangajunky
bubble-bee
Posted 7:40 AM 2/7/08
beautiful!!! lets see how this handles, if true of course. :) But its really a beautiful idea... would love!
bubble-bee
GorbyGipper
Posted 7:40 AM 2/7/08
Cool....UIs are fun. I loved the 360 dash when it came out, but it's starting to feel a little dated. Of course, sprucing it up with cool wallpaper and a better trim (carbon rocks) helps, but I think a totally new UI would be awesome.
GorbyGipper
sniper13x
Posted 7:39 AM 2/7/08
@GOD: Your girlfriend is a moron, sorry to break it to you.
sniper13x
GOD
Posted 7:38 AM 2/7/08
@Erwin: Good point about the media centre thing! They should have that interface. The current is a bag of messy balls. only "Leet geeks" know how to get from A-B quickly.
GOD
hagridore
Posted 7:38 AM 2/7/08
I wish they would remove the ads. At the least, they should be restricted to the marketplace blade.
hagridore
.endejas.
Posted 7:37 AM 2/7/08
Being a fan of the XMB, I'd like to have something like it on the 360. I'm also a big fan of the Zune/Media Center's Twist UI (which is basically XMB on its side).
.endejas.
kylenalepa
Posted 7:37 AM 2/7/08
I thought they canceled the Spring Update? Two updates a year, too tough for Microsoft, I guess.
/bitter
kylenalepa
0ldb0y
Posted 7:35 AM 2/7/08
Make the UI the exact opposite of Vista's, and you'll be on to something.
0ldb0y
Replica23
Posted 7:33 AM 2/7/08
The reason I like the 360 interface is because it's (more) simple and to the point. I fear Microsoft may just complicate things by trying to be too elaborate. Maybe not though.
Replica23
Gouki4u
Posted 7:33 AM 2/7/08
Um yeah... A new dashboard interface that I use a different controller for? Needing a separate peripheral for menu navigation isn't what I'd call user friendly. I know I don't have to use it since it is optional, but my question is why would anyone use it?
Either we're missing an important piece of the puzzle, or this is a colossally stupid idea. I'm betting on the former, but you never know.
Gouki4u
GOD
Posted 7:32 AM 2/7/08
The best reviewer of all the current gen UIs, I think, is my girlfriend.
- The Wii
Two thumbs up. No problems getting around and finding what you want.
- The Playstation 3
A bit difficult to start off with, but she got the hang of it pretty quick.
- Xbox 360
W.T.F. how do I load my profile. Where are all those games you were playing on the other day (XBL Arcade) Why do you need an Xbox live tab and an Xbox live Marketplace tab?
And ther you have it!
I do feel, although usefull for experienced users, the xbox blades are a big pile of mess. They all suffer from an identity crisis. New casual users can't get their heads around it.
The PSP, PS3 have It nice and simple Settings, Photo, Music, Video, Games, Network, Friends. Again, not the best, but you know what you are getting under each catagory.
The Wii has it spot on! not much to offer than what it says on the tin. You point and click on what you want.
So I guess xbox knows the issue, and might be looking to get it rectified.
GOD
YourAnthony
Posted 7:32 AM 2/7/08
@Atheist Jew:
LOL like ps3's is so much better! you have hordes of options hidden under hordes of small icons. To do one thing is a hassel.
The 360 dash is functional. It gives you everything you need, even the basics like the actual time.
YourAnthony
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 7:28 AM 2/7/08
@vega480: You whore.
XD
NeVeRMoRe666
Aion
Posted 7:27 AM 2/7/08
@Candlejack: Ya, I was really impressed the guys at SCE actually pulled the in-game XMB stunt. I wonder where they pulled the extra power from...
By games that would support this, I was thinking mainly of games that would already use the controller, and take the time to implement a 3D interface.... which would be cumbersome for pretty much everybody involved IMO. This most likely won't happen but I'd love to see how it would work out (evil grin).
Aion
.endejas.
Posted 7:27 AM 2/7/08
@sniper13x: Are you saying that everytime you press the Guide button on your 360, it doesn't stutter out, stay blank for a while, then finally load up 3-4 seconds after you pushed the guide button?
Not to mention it loads with that fancy fade-in fade-out that makes the menus so fucking slow. Where it could take me up to a full minute to bring up the guide, get into the friends list, find the friend, press A on his name, press A to get to the message sending, then input the message (using my ChatPad), then press Done, then press Send then wait for it to send (1-2 seconds) then press the Guide button to boot back out to your game.
The dashboard is slow. I'm completely fine with the UI design, but it could use some simplification. Personally, a 3D interface would be cool, but I want functionality as well as awesomeness.
.endejas.
I Think We're Property
Posted 7:26 AM 2/7/08
When the dashboard or blade interface seems to chug at any given moment, its probably not really an effect of rendering it, so much as lag being induced by whatever operation you've just told it to do (or, in the case of pulling the blades up in the middle of a game, what you've just told it to put on forced pause).
But really, the thing about the possible 360 motion sensitive input device that interests me isn't its potential for me to play fishing-based minigames and Wii Golf clones, or to deal with gimmicky waggle mechanics in my action games, so much as its ability to become a point-and-click interface for the system, which is currently still stuck in joystick land. Real time strategy games, anyone?
I Think We're Property
DukeOfPwn
Posted 7:25 AM 2/7/08
@Candlejack: Would you mind not trolling a console discussion, PC fanboy?
DukeOfPwn
Thorax
Posted 7:25 AM 2/7/08
@excel_excel: I agree, but I liked the book better
Thorax
Playstation
Posted 7:25 AM 2/7/08
See this is a good thing about competition, each of them try to make things better. So it is good for us - gamers.
Playstation
Erwin
Posted 7:24 AM 2/7/08
I love these photoshops.
On topic: I would love a new interface. The only streamlining right now is hitting Y in the Marketplace to jump back to the main blade. Whoopde shit MS. The blades are fine, keep 'em if you must, just give up more shortcuts please. That Y button thing for all blades would be an instant and easy improvement.
@Atheist Jew: Hell, the Media Centre is faster and easier to use than the 360's interface. Just copy that.
Erwin
rhoq
Posted 7:23 AM 2/7/08
@Atheist Jew: Odd I feel the complete opposite. Going from the 360 Dashboard to the PS3 XMB was a culture shock for me.
rhoq
Deft_One
Posted 7:21 AM 2/7/08
Hey, this reminds me! I just got a new steering wheel for my car.
Deft_One
sargemat
Posted 7:21 AM 2/7/08
Sounds cool. I like the idea.
sargemat
excel_excel
Posted 7:20 AM 2/7/08
hey Minority Report was a good movie!
a 3-d dashboard though? the thing already chugs at times and its fucking 2-d!
excel_excel
vega480
Posted 7:19 AM 2/7/08
a new controller to drive the menu system, thats a stupid idea. I can understand a specific controller for a game, but not to navigate your system, plus will you have to switch back to a regular controller to play the game you chose through this magical gateway. not that it matters, i use that console to loan out to friends for money.
vega480
Nexus-6
Posted 7:18 AM 2/7/08
I love the idea. This is what I really liked about the old Xbox dashboard - 3D parts. The current XO dashboard looks so Windows-like.
Nexus-6
StealthMaster86
Posted 7:18 AM 2/7/08
Holy Crap it's Minority Report. I just watched that last night. It's awesome.
StealthMaster86
kryzhal
Posted 7:17 AM 2/7/08
I actually preferred the original dashboard to the one post cross media bar-izing it. I had a hard time finding stuff with the new layout. It seemed to force me to look through a lot of stuff I really didn't care about. Also they added more ads.
kryzhal
JustJake
Posted 7:17 AM 2/7/08
@DigitalHero: Oh god we are all doomed. lol
JustJake
Jeff Paine
Posted 7:16 AM 2/7/08
I'm pretty sure the "rumored" Spring Update isn't hitting this year.
Considering it's already summer.
Jeff Paine
Candlejack
Posted 7:16 AM 2/7/08
@Aion: How about no games will support that kind of thing. A fully rendered 3D interface simultaneously to a game is so optimistic that there's no describing it. Seriously. The 360 is just like the PS3 a console which has a dated graphics chip and little memory. In-game XMB is about as far as you can push it, and even that only because it doesn't cache anything (which is why you see the "loading"-circles coming back every time you switch XMB sections).
Candlejack
sniper13x
Posted 7:16 AM 2/7/08
Damn am i late to the party yet again? I had no idea i was supposed to hate the 360 dashboard. Jumping on the hater bandgwagon now...
Damn dis crazy slow 2d dash that lets me do everything i need, i wants faster and more friendly and faster and less cluttered but i want more things, and can you make it a ps3 plskthanxbye.
sniper13x
peacefuloutrage
Posted 7:15 AM 2/7/08
I like the Grid UI. Codemasters is awesome. Oh, and an optional selection for BGM would be cool, too.
But I would settle for more search options that are easier to navigate. I have over 30 XBLA games and searching by genre, most played, or last few played by profile instead of console would be handy as well. It would also be cool if the games we have downloaded but haven't purchased were separated too.
peacefuloutrage
DigitalHero
Posted 7:15 AM 2/7/08
Interesting if true. We all know Microsoft's reputation on operating systems and interfaces though.
DigitalHero
nip
Posted 7:14 AM 2/7/08
People just hating, this sounds like a cool idea.
nip
GUILTIE
Posted 7:12 AM 2/7/08
I hate the current dashboard! It's so slowwwwwww...
GUILTIE
BryanGuitarDude
Posted 7:11 AM 2/7/08
@trelantana: But just buying it so you can just use it while your on the dashboard doesn't that make it even more gimmicky?
BryanGuitarDude
Aion
Posted 7:11 AM 2/7/08
That would be pretty interesting, but would it work during a game session? the current in-game dashboard already lags and it's 2D... I wonder how a 3D interface would behave while being rendered above other 3D stuff. I bet only certain games would support that kind of thing.
Aion
Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer
Posted 7:10 AM 2/7/08
@Atheist Jew: Very very true. The Dashboard can get really annoying if your in the settings and you want to quickly go anywhere else.
It's just slow basically.
Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer
Tietsu
Posted 7:09 AM 2/7/08
Yeah...not sure I'm liking this Wiimote add on. It feels fake...and not in the good way...
Tietsu
Candlejack
Posted 7:08 AM 2/7/08
A new interface = Win
Making it the life support of a gimmicky new peripheral = Fucking Fail
Sorry.
Candlejack
Garo
Posted 7:08 AM 2/7/08
Nice.
I'm curious if this is a part of their plan to bring "social networking" to the platform
"The social networks are something that we are very, very interested in. If there's a gaming experience that you buy in a shop and through that you log in to a universe, not an MMO but a social network, where you play games, you meet, and interact - that's definitely something we're looking at," QUOTE MGS-EU Zetterberg
[www.gamesindustry.biz]
Garo
Atheist Jew
Posted 7:07 AM 2/7/08
The best thing MS could do is mimic the PSP/PS3 menu system. Their current dashboard is clumsy, ugly, and inefficient. There's a lot they could do to improve it.
Atheist Jew
trelantana
Posted 7:07 AM 2/7/08
...Damn, now I have to get the new motion controller.
I was hoping i could skip it and just say "Meh, it's just an even MORE gimicky wii ripoff."
trelantana
hungry_for_worms
Posted 7:06 AM 2/7/08
dont really care :/ about how pretty a UI is. as long as i dont have to jump through hoops to play a game im fine.
hungry_for_worms
kommanderk
Posted 9:02 AM 2/7/08
@Trust me, I'm a doctor:
if you consider any of the menus confusing then you have to be an idiot
kommanderk
zanzibarlegend
Posted 8:57 AM 2/7/08
@sniper13x: right. well all believe you. when you get a chance fire up the scanner and show us your diploma. that way we can marvel at your PHD
in graphical interface with a minor in ass-hattery.
zanzibarlegend
Annex1
Posted 8:53 AM 2/7/08
No doubt it is hapless rumour...but if not, I am excited...in the pants.
Annex1
zanzibarlegend
Posted 8:52 AM 2/7/08
@GOD: i was gonna rail on this ignorant fool sniper, but as i read up there.. u kinda pulled a headshot from a distance. well played sir.
*tips hat off*
zanzibarlegend
yashichi8bit
Posted 8:51 AM 2/7/08
That pic is hilarious!
The blades are nice and I actually like the current dash. Never the less, I'm all for more options for the UI. Especially if they turn out to be better.
yashichi8bit
Sentry
Posted 8:39 AM 2/7/08
@Nexus6: A few seconds just to get from watching a video to changing settings? That is like a life time, on the XMB I go from listening to music, to watching a video, to messaging a buddy, to launching the PS Store, all in a few seconds. :P
OK now im just coming off as fanboy, my apologies.
Sentry
Sentry
Posted 8:36 AM 2/7/08
Using a stick (wii mote) to control a menu on the tv, is not 3D like, or minority report like.
Using the PS Eye, head tracking, and hand motions to control the XMB, is like a clone of minority report.
Sorry just had to bring that up. :P It's gonna happen eventually, mind you.
Sentry
Talleyrand
Posted 8:35 AM 2/7/08
That is a great picture!
Talleyrand
GOD
Posted 8:35 AM 2/7/08
@GOD: Unlike me and my ability to type...
GOD
TheLegendof_Erick
Posted 8:33 AM 2/7/08
I'm just pondering what they do with existing files on the marketplace and/or custom pics saved on the hd for backgrounds/themes
TheLegendof_Erick
Wouldyoukindly
Posted 8:25 AM 2/7/08
anything closer the Ps3 interface is good with me
Wouldyoukindly
Blues
Posted 8:07 AM 2/7/08
Microsoft shouldn't be copying the Wii remote for this, they should be copying the Power Glove.
Blues
MordecaiX7
Posted 8:00 AM 2/7/08
I would much rather have a true redesign than a different way to navigate the blade interface. Stop trying to cash in on the whole motion control thing!
MordecaiX7
adamr999
Posted 7:40 AM 2/7/08
I like the dashboard and guide button the way it is dunno why people say its laggy i dont get lag and its never longer than 2 secs to bring it up you only get lag if u start trying to many things at once. But it looks cool aslong as the controller isnt a full requirement because i dont care for motion senser wii crap ok thx bye
adamr999
Devil240Z
Posted 7:36 AM 2/7/08
The blade system is fine the way it is. I dont think a crazy VR makeover will make it better.
I really hope that this isn't MS's attempt at 1 upping the XMB. On the eve of 2.40 I wonder if MS has anything to worry about regarding PS3s UI.
Devil240Z
eeryee
Posted 7:34 AM 2/7/08
"floating menu system", isn't that just like "Vista Aero" or Apple manual bar?
eeryee
KnuckleKnuts
Posted 7:12 AM 2/7/08
Sure it sounds great on paper, but adding a new controller is yet another way in which Microsoft can splinter their user base. Keep it inexpensive and maybe this can succeed.
KnuckleKnuts
Br00klyn-Grenade
Posted 9:36 AM 2/7/08
Pretty cool. Would be even more awesome if they announced and discussed at their E3 showcase, then release right after, one can only dream...
Br00klyn-Grenade
GOD
Posted 9:23 AM 2/7/08
@EnigmaNemesis: You, my good man, are the voice of reason!
GOD
EnigmaNemesis
Posted 9:21 AM 2/7/08
Didnt Sony show off concepts with the Cell and 3D desktops/dashboards for the PS3 and PCs 2 years ago?
I love the PS3 UI and Store ... VERY organized ... I also dont mind the 360's, though they can organize the marketplace better IMO.
EnigmaNemesis
neo177117
Posted 10:02 AM 2/7/08
Wouldn't be difficult for them to change GUI to 3D as in storage? How in the world people without HDDs will get this? Just curious.
neo177117
tr67
Posted 10:49 AM 2/7/08
I'm starting to wonder if stories like this are leaked out to the press w/the sole purpose of polling the public.
- Microsoft considers concept.
- Microsoft marketing research needs numbers to justify implementation.
- Kotaku comments equate to numbers?
- Money saved on polling!
- Ill-received ideas scrapped; Kotakuites never hear of them again.
- Well-received ideas go on to further research; story may yet be confirmed!
tr67
PsycheE
Posted 10:46 AM 2/7/08
The only time I wanted to be Tom Cruise. Looking badass making jazz hands in the air. I am all for a Samus-helmet type interface.
PsycheE
shade-black
Posted 10:42 AM 2/7/08
but.... why? it seems like a waste of money to me... time an research as well.
what are microsoft doing for their 360 customers? making new silly ways to control your ui. great?
shade-black
Marund
Posted 11:05 AM 2/7/08
I've never had a problem with any systems' UI. However, I do definitely have a preference.
I do have a disdain for the PS3's XMB, simply because it's a poorly organized piece of crap favoring style over usability. Why is PlayStation Network and Network two seperate things? Why aren't all my options for X function in X category? Why are all my friends spread out in a tab along with other stuff, instead of their own 'friends folder' or something similiar? I can always find what I'm looking for, but the organization Sony did just doesn't make any sense to me.
The Wii's is too limited in what it can do.
The 360's is a little slow to navigate, but it makes the most sense to me and offers the most options. It's my preference.
However, I will agree with some previous commentors. If you have trouble, real trouble, with any of the systems' navigation... you have bigger problems than a faulty UI. And no, a UI is not bad because a few people can't figure it out. If you can't figure out the UI when most others can, the problem is with you.
Marund
kojirodensetsu
Posted 11:05 AM 2/7/08
I love the power glove. It's so bad.
kojirodensetsu
ReconToaster
Posted 12:20 PM 2/7/08
Is this really necessary? We really do not need an interesting way to navigate through the dashboard. you hardly ever use in anyways. What I want is for the friends list to say what movie you are watching, rather than saying that you are "on the dashboard."
ReconToaster
Candlejack
Posted 12:17 PM 2/7/08
@DukeOfPwn: PC fanboy? Haha, I've never been called that before. Awesome. You do know that I have a PS3 and PS2 on my TV stand and previously a 360 and GameCube, yes?
@Aion: Indeed, I was as well.
@gamadaya: Cheers ;)
@GOD: Thanks for that mate.
Candlejack
AL7AIR
Posted 12:07 PM 2/7/08
Both UIs have their pros and cons - some of the labels on the guide are misleading as well as some categorizations the XMB makes.
I designed a couple of web interfaces - but I wouldn't call myself an expert - but answer me this: If you push the guide button and take a look at the first box. What do you see? Gamertile, Gamerscore and online status. Where do I change my online status then? I would have placed that option inside the menu you get when you highlight this box and push A, therefor linking the box to all the options of its displaying infos. But no, Microsoft decided to put it under personal settings along with other more "long term" persistent settings like voice, vibration, notifications and themes, which is a menu a couple of clicks away from where my status is displayed. And this is just one of the "you could get there quicker and/or easier" - nice to have updates on my little wish list.
And as Marund stated the Network and Playstation Network splitting is unnecessary - at least in my humble opinion, too. As well as some options under system settings which could be combined or at least rearranged because some of the more frequently used are way down in the list.
AL7AIR
Gestahl
Posted 11:54 AM 2/7/08
There's a reason why the Wii one is so easy.
It doesn't have any options or features.
Gestahl
M-26-7
Posted 1:14 PM 2/7/08
I kind of feel like the only person who feels the dashboard is fine and largely doesn't care about it. I've had my 360 since launch date. So i'm pretty experienced with it. I'd never have thought people would think it unuser friendly. Also whatever happened to popping a disk in the drive aand playing it and completely forgeting about the dashboard?
M-26-7
IntelSilver
Posted 1:05 PM 2/7/08
@DigitalHero: Sadly we all know their reputation on the hardware side as well :S
IntelSilver
LORDofDANCE
Posted 2:10 PM 2/7/08
Anyone who can't figure out the 360 dashboard doesn't use it enough to make full use of it anyway.
Anyone who uses it enough learns it quite quickly.
I think this update sounds cool but is incredibly unnecessary.
LORDofDANCE
Dai
Posted 3:52 PM 2/7/08
I really dont understand why people love to hate so much *sigh*, no-one has even seen the concept in action, shouldnt we be promoting people trying new things as its the only way something can get better.
As for the dashboard being slow how quick does it really need to be? I can honestly say if I am taking time out to play some games a second to switch blades doesnt really eat into that time.
Dai
Byakko
Posted 4:48 PM 2/7/08
@GOD:
Your girlfriend is an insult to my gender *readies crossbow* This is for the good of the gene pool.
And back on-topic. I don't see what's wrong with the 360's current UI. It's flashy, but usable, never had problems navigating it except for having too many hops between point 1 and point B.
As it is, from the current description, I have completely no idea what this 'new' UI is supposed to be like.
But if it includes Tom Cruise I'm fine with it. Can prolly sell him on Ebay or something.
Byakko
Doug
Posted 4:42 PM 2/7/08
A motion controller, a fancy dashboard update, all kinds of LIVE additions, and STILL no ability to fast forward or rewind AUDIO (according to the list referenced in this article).
Come on.
Doug
dowingba
Posted 5:35 PM 2/7/08
@GOD: The Wii's dashboard is truly a mess. That's all I've got to say about that. Ask one of those people who've filled up all the spaces for channels.
dowingba
dowingba
Posted 5:34 PM 2/7/08
It's getting a bit late for a Spring Update. Seeing as how it's July.
dowingba
okrangerbob
Posted 5:42 PM 3/7/08
God I dont care just give me my updates MS. Group chat plz.
okrangerbob
genbeef
Posted 11:55 PM 3/7/08
@Atheist Jew: ...WOW, can that get any more fanboyish? if it's anything, it's to AVOID the psp/ps3's UI
genbeef
smuckersisgood
Posted 1:56 PM 4/7/08
Im fine with the ui as it is. If they want to change it, well, more power to 'em. But i aint buying a motion controller just to navigate menus.
smuckersisgood
GrYnder
Posted 1:48 AM 6/7/08
That sounds cool. But I don't know how many motion controlled games I'd actually get on 360, which would mean I wouldn't get the controller.
GrYnder
Kortir
Posted 11:44 AM 7/7/08
Keh, new Xbox 720 (or whatever) will be out in a year and a half anyways. I doubt I'll see a reason to bother throwing more money at the system for an entirely new control schema.
Kortir