Uh, Diablo has already been on the Playstation, and they even made an N64 version of Starcraft. This isn't exactly unprecedented, I don't see what the big hub bub is all about.

Darlan

Theoretically can connect a Keyboard and Mouse, and theoretically nothing would need to be changed.

RaepGoblin

I would totally buy it for 360. I don't think my current PC will run it when it comes out in 2010.

Wubbytoes

The console Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance games very Diablo-esque and were very fun, especially co-op. But a lot of the fun of the Diablo games is in the ability and weapon upgrades, and that stuff tends to be a chore to manage on a console, so they end up dumbing it down.

jaz

"Can't see Mii support and friend codes really fitting with the whole gates to hell thing."

But they do fit with the rainbows.

Cho413

i think it would work better for ps3.

RabidPinata

So... when it becomes closer to becoming a reality, maybe we should speculate?

bean, bean, the musical... well, you know.

I think it could be pretty cool on a console actually, and this is coming from someone who just built a new PC 3 months ago. You can't honestly compare the Starcraft console port to Diablo. Just a slight different in gameplay styles there, and both that port and the Diablo port were done a long time ago. Tech and times have changed.

Baldur's Gate was on PS2 and it played fine. You don't need a mouse and keyboard to play Diablo. 4 player online co-op over Xbox Live and PSN would be pretty cool. Not all of my friends have PCs to play Diablo 3 with me, this would make it easier to get a fun group going.

Hmmmm....

mrmugen53

The first Diablo was on the PSOne, so it's not a terrible stretch. It was a pretty good version too, really fun multiplayer.

Nobuyuki

@gamadaya: Historically, Blizzard seems to aim their releases at mid-high range PCs. They want to make sure they can get all sorts of folks to play without shelling out for an upgrade.

...that said, I might well build a new rig to run this one maxed out.

Insomnia Bob

@N3k74r42: If you don't want her, I'll get some. You sure? jk.

Can you imagine the inventory management madness? Sometimes dealing with the mouse is shitty enough in D2, but with analog sticks?

Izkariot

The problem is they can't just make a console game and say "keyboard and mouse only" since that's optional hardware. And for every guy that says that's acceptable, you'll have 9 other lazy consolers saying that that isn't "couch-friendly". Gamepad controls would have to be compromised, as Blizzard says, with AoE spells and the like. They shoot themselves in the foot either way.

Split-screen coop would be horrible, imo. Too many windows on the screen. Plus it's an entirely new development obstacle, separate from network/online play. Better to just jump onto PSN/XBL. But then Blizzard has Battle.net, so consolidating a console version's online play is another problem you need to add to the list.

Aerundel

OMG ITS RATED T!!!! ITS CONFIRMED!!!!

madhotch

I think I'll probably stick with the PC version. They'd have to do something pretty crazy with the controls to get me to go for it.

Insomnia Bob

I had Diablo for PS1, it was pretty cool actually. Wow that was a long time ago.

KennyLanzJr

To anyone being pretentious about any game remaining PC only, but especially THIS game:

STFU, seriously. Diablo is click and slash... since when is that PC exclusive?

Get over yourselves gamers.. get over yourselves.

MrBionic

idk, ill get it for pc

TheNocturnalSun

@medik: But it still came out.

Jopan

@SaanZ: Bravo!

Malyonsus

Having sex with my mother is (theoretically) possible, but that doesn't mean I'll still do it.

N3k74r42

That's cool, but I don't think the specs of diablo 3 would be too high for most peoples' computers, would they?

gamadaya

@Lyrai: well, back then all computers could run Diablo, now not everyone will with the third game. I supose it sold quite poorly.

QC8472

@Smash88: I don't think the words "fanboys" and "owners" are interchangeable.

Lord Thayer

I can see this now...

The Miis versus hell

On the Diablo at hand; while I always think it's better to develop for only 1 of the two: PC/Mac or consoles, it could happen: EA did a good job (for the time!!) with Diablo on the PS1, it's hard to navigate the menus, but back then alot of games were like this. I still play that on my PSP.

QC8472

[kotaku.com]

Maldron

yeah, D1 on PS1 came like 100 years after PC release ^^

medik

Wasn't Diablo on the PS1 a while back? How'd it fare sale-wise?

Lyrai

Anything is possible..but is it likely?

Probably not. Don't care either way.

karasu is my homeboy

*YAWN* Don't care. It plays perfectly on PC. I think it's best it stays there. Just like Starcraft II.

banana_ridah

A console Diablo??!?! NOOOO! *Stars petition*

dowingba

You really cant put friend codes together with the gates of hell thing?

Really?

SaanZ

@Arsenicberyllium: Split screen on a Diablo game?, that makes no sense.

So, one would be farming Diablo and the other Baal?, with a line going down middle of the screen?. I don't know, sounds like a barrel full of ew.

PsycheE

@Talleh: You...you don't? My dreams have all been crushed. All three of them.

sarcasmOD

Can't say I'm a Diablo fan, but if the boxart looked that good, yeah, I'd probably buy it. That's one awfully nice mock-up there.

Xenigma

I wish. Diablo III for xbox nao kk thx bai. But really, I hope they bring it to consoles some day.

Murgatron

Ummmmm, possible yes, going to happen, no. Not to burst your bubble console fanboys, but Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 will never go on consoles. SC2 and D3 just don't seem like console games to me.

And, yes I am aware of Starcraft 64, and we all know how that turned out, and the same goes for the Diablo console version.

Smash88

It's also possible that the next president is an alien, the world will explode tomorrow, and that Shigeru Miyamoto will make Zelda: Link to the Past 2. I don't think any of it will happen though.

Talleh

I would actually play it if they brought it to consoles.

Lord Thayer

@sladee: Any 360 user without a hard drive probably wouldn't want Diablo 3, and keyboard support already exists in some form. Mouse support, maybe.

Jehnn

I won't care unless it has split-screen Co-Op.

This is just a hint for an Blizz devs who might be reading Kotaku.

Arsenicberyllium

It would work more easily on PlayStation 3 because it has the hard drive, keyboard, and mouse.

sladee

I am torn. I would love for more people to enjoy Diablo 3. However, I just don't like it being on a console. There is something awkward about not going through a clickfest.

PsycheE

cool

wealthyman2

Humm, doesnt sound blizzard anymore. :D

Gambly

@Aeryss: PC gaming is in no threat of dying with or with out blizz. The only thing that would happen if blizz stoped it would slow down the growth of pc game market.

taftsearlobe33

Honestly, I'm a big WoW player, but the idea of Diablo III on the PC doesn't interest me as much as it does on the console. Probably because of the different crowd that I play with on the 360.

HfAsianInvasion

Only for selish reasons. I hope it will never come to consoles. Blizzard is one of the few companies who helps keeping PC gaming alive.

Aeryss

@Does Not Equal: Compromised, and not nearly as fast as a mouse when you're mobbed by enemies, which happens a lot in D2.

@MrBionic: I don't see what's so elitist about what I said. 2 years is a huge amount of time to buy/upgrade a PC. And as for my description of PS1 Diablo - it's accurate.

Aerundel

@Aerundel: I've played both Diablo 1&2 and the Baldur's Gate games, and you can nitpick all you want but they are both very similar, and not just isometric camera angle. All dungeon crawls are basically fancy versions of Gauntlet. Doesn't matter if Baldur's Gate was originally designed for console, the gameplay style was very similar and it worked fine.

If I had to choose, I would still play it on PC, but for chrissakes people act like Diablo is Supreme Commander or something. It's really not that complex, and the transition to a console controller wouldn't be too hard as long as they put some thought into it. At the end of the day, its hammer on the attack button and pick up treasure, not rocket science.

mrmugen53

..I would really love Diablo 3 through Live.

It would be ace.

just to throw some balance in...but yes UI cant see why they wouldn't want to get more money from their product.

Rockzilla

@Black-Dog-Howls: And how.

Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.

...I would really hate Diablo 3 through Live.

It would be horrible.

Black-Dog-Howls

@argh: They'd probably make the controls different on the console. Oh wait that was incredibly obvious.

dowingba

@mrmugen53: Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance was a game specifically made for consoles. It was nothing like the PC RPGs, and neither did it play like Diablo 1/2. The only similarities to Blizzard's offerings are the isometric views and medieval themes. It's basically a upgrade of Gauntlet and every other arcade game like it.

Aerundel

@Aerundel: point missed entirely, of course. Point is, people shouldn't be elitist about this. They *can* make it work if they wanted to, and there's no *real* reason not to, except to make certain people feel superior in some way. I *have* a computer that'd play it, but I'd like to have the choice... so I don't see what the problem really is.

All I'm asking is that people stop being idiotically pretentious and elitist.

*sigh*... and yes, I know it's too much to ask, but it shouldn't be.

MrBionic

@RabidPinata: For what reasons, exactly?

Does Not Equal

@Aerundel: Easy way to correct that. Right stick moves your arrow, right-click sets for attack. Bada-boom, bada-bing.

Does Not Equal

How could you target a spell cast on the map while moving your character? You really need a mouse, the controls would be terribly awkward.

argh

@RaepGoblin:
Hey yeah! At least on the PS3. Wasn't that the case with UT3? And then wasn't it also the case that the 360 version will not have keyboard support?

gamadaya

@MrBionic: The "click" part sort of clues you in.

PS1 Diablo was lame. They basically got rid of the mouse altogether. You had to walk up and fight things instead of click on them, so you were constantly moving to stay in position to deal damage (whereas clicking would've done that automatically). And then to bandage the obvious difficulty of inventory/skill management in combat, they used weird button combinations for quickspells and items. Diablo 2 is quite a bit faster paced, as I'm sure Diablo 3 will be.

You guys probably have about 2 years to get a computer that can play the game. And from the looks of it, a computer from last year or earlier can play it, so there should be no problem meeting the hardware requirements in the future. It's Blizzard, afterall...

Aerundel

For nothing but selfish reasons...I hope it stays on PC.

bighit006

@Aerundel: truth and i do think controllers are far better then mouse and keyboard

Gypse-scum

I would love for this to come to console. I hate sitting at a desk all day clicking away. I would much prefer sitting on my couch at home in front of the tv getting my diablo on.

NeVeRMoRe666

@Gypse-scum: Lies, especially after the obvious trollpost.

Aerundel

okay, I just need to point something out to the various peeps that are chanting keyboard and mouse only and whatnot.

If you want to play like that, and there's a different control method for both, just play the PC version. Seriously, all porting Diablo 3 to consoles would do, would give options to people who don't want to play it on the PC and might want a slightly simplified control scheme.

Call me crazy, but as a general rule I think more choices trumps fewer. Just a thought ya know.

WolvenOne

@Zim: well played

Gypse-scum

@Aerundel: oh and as some one who as played D1 on pc and PS and D2 and BG:DA. they are the same game

Gypse-scum

@too-ninja: I don't think anyone's worried about the game running on consoles.

Aerundel

Grr as a consumer I would be so angry if blizzard gave me more options how to play the game and made it so more people could enjoy it. They would clearly be betraying my platform of choice.

But seriously bring it to damn consoles. I will get it on pc if I have to to. However I would much rather not play it with the worst graphics settings there are.

Zim

i think it would work better on consoles because of one simple mathematical formula that had been proven over and over again Controllers > Keyboard and mouse

Gypse-scum

@Does Not Equal: What would a direct-attack button do, exactly? That's kind of vague, and easy-mode sounding (probably because I'm assuming you mean some kind of autotargeting system)...

Aerundel

please, please, please. I've been playing diablo (psx) on my psp, it runs fine. Diablo3 on the 360 would be awesome.

too-ninja

@Aerundel: Allow for a direct-attack button as well, for those times you're surrounded. Bada-fuckin'-bing.

Does Not Equal

didn't Diablo come out for GBA also?

Kreepman

Diablo was ported to PS1 and played ok IMO. I don't see the idea of porting D3 farfetched or absurd.

alecpyron

Only if it is on the Ps3 with keyboard and mouse support. To hell with analogue sticks, I WANT A MOUSE AND QUICK KEYS. KTHX BAI

Nets_Fan

@mrmugen53: It's not nitpicking. It's a fundamental difference made by the platform. Also, I think the comparison is flawed in the first place because we're talking about porting a game here, not basing a console game on a PC game and making something different to suit the new platform.

If you make Diablo 3 into a Dark Alliance-type game, you're making a different game. I would rather them do that then try to squeeze the PC games onto the consoles in some weird way.

Aerundel

@Black-Dog-Howls: Because? ... I don't think it would be horrible at all, in fact i'm sure Diablo 2 had 1 player being the host, in which case its very similar to Live. Unless of course your imagining a scenario where your playing with 12 year olds, in which case i'd refer you to a thing called a friends list.

Anyway. I certainly think Diablo 3 could work on consoles, i think a lot of people who say it wouldn't work just don't consider all the possibilities when it comes to how they could map the controls. Or they have no faith in Blizzard making a good control system. You know what? I'd have faith in them if they were to do it. Obviously the interface would not be exactly the same as the PC version but thats not to say it would be a bad thing.

It'll never happen of course because Blizzard don't see any importance to consoles. Activision merger i doubt will have any real impact on Bliz. Bliz will still have a lot of say on what they are going to do and with they're killer franchises like Diablo 3 i think Activision are just going to be happy thinking about all that money they can rake in.

Obviously there are a lot more computers out there than there are consoles combined but a lot of gamers buy consoles solely to play games. Its a market of specific gamers Blizzard overlooks. Not everyone who owns a computer will be a gamer. Not everyone will have a computer that can run Diablo 3. WoW is so successful because it runs on a large range of hardware. I don't think the same can be said for Diablo 3 which looked quite good graphically as well as having a lot of animations on screen and lots of AI.

I can see it selling over a million easy but they could easily sell more, as well as make more money releasing it on consoles. Having a console version won't impact the PC versions sales whatso ever because your always going to have the people who played Diablo 2 to death on PC and won'#t play it any other way.

Walker

@Jehnn: I'm an owner of a 350 without a HDD and I'd want Diablo 3. I don't see what the big deal is with the 360 HDD, why do people think it's essential when no game even requires it (as far as I know)?

Phazon

@cougar88: "I think its completely plausible for Activision to release it for the consoles, they do love money."

There's a reason the new company will be called "Activision Blizzard" =P

Aerundel

Ofcourse it can be done on a console, they haven't exactly gone graphics heavy and the game itself doesn't have much in the way of advanced AI, complex level structure and whatnot. It could probably be done on Wii if it lowered the graphics slightly.

Llost

@Aerundel: Just like other action games. If you're surrounded, you move the left stick in the direction you want to attack and hit the button. Your onscreen character would then attack in that direction. Nothing "easy-mode" about it; video games have been doing it for years.

That way, you'd have mouse-style clicking for distance, but direct-attack capability in a crunch, and still leave plenty of buttons for inventory, spellcasting, map rotation, etc.

Does Not Equal

Why do people who plan to buy it on the PC care if it comes to consoles?

It won't effect you in ANY way...I Promise.

IF it did come out on consoles and PC...I'd just get both versions...just to see how it felt.

Vecha

I might consider getting Diablo 3 if it came out for consoles. I gave up on PC gaming a long time ago. I think its completely plausible for Activision to release it for the consoles, they do love money. I would imagine that if they did decide to bring Diablo 3 to the consoles it would be after the release of the PC version.

cougar88

In theory, communism works.

foofed

@Gypse-scum: *two it's 3:40 in the morning were i am... this shit needs to get posted earlyer

Gypse-scum

@Aerundel: yes to the first too

Gypse-scum

It won't come out on 360 because XBL is completely locked down by Microsoft. It would definitely work on the open online platform that Sony offers. Bnet would work well on the PS3.

Whoaness

If this were to happen I wouldn't bother with it. To me Diablo has always been a pc series and always will be.

Stevetrop

@Gypse-scum: Ok, I will ask you a few simple questions.

Do the Baldur's Gate console games have any sort of mechanics to support such Diablo 2 skills as the Barbarian's Leap/Leap Attack? How about any of the Sorceress's AoE spells that have variable distance from the caster? Teleport? How about turret-type skills that are also variable distance, like Hydra?

Where am I going with this? The mouse unlocks the potential to act where the character is not, and act at any time the player deems necessary. If you limit/take out those skills, and you're affecting what it means to be a "click and slash" game.

Aerundel

If it comes out on consel I would be so happy...I would rush to the stores when It came out on 360! It would also make is easier on me since my computer a piece of crap and I hardly even use this for video games so It would make this Diablo game fan happy

DespisedMC

I've been thinking the same thing for sometime now. I'd welcome it, i've strayed from PC gaming over the last 10 years and its going to be powerful hard to get back into it. I'll do it for StarCraft but I dont have to be happy about it lol.

Cygnes

It's possible but the merger happened pretty late compared to how far Diablo 3 is in development. If they were to actually do a proper console port, it would probably be quite some time after the PC launch.

Aspek

I'd buy a console version. The PS one was pretty good. I still have my copy too.

Amazon_Chris

@Neer'mo: Don't feed the fire, buddy. Besides, the first Diablo was also released on the Playstation.

Drake Lake: Formed from Arsenic and Old Lace

Why would anybody want this? First, (most likely) the computer specs will not be that high and if this was true; the combat would probably "too human" style. Well I am thinking that the only combat style that would work is that you focus on a monster (one of many) and move your cursor over it (or maybe press the joystick towards the enemy) to attack it.

I just do not see how the specs could be too high that most of the gamers would rather have a console version.

herfy

Ooo, bring one of the PC's most beloved titles to the console? No thanks, burn in hell and bastardize a new IP instead.

Neer'mo

If the console version had mouse support then I'd get it. There would just be something weird about playing Diablo without a mouse.

kojirodensetsu

@Does Not Equal: Yeah but where in that direction would your character attack? What if you're surrounded by a bunch of lame mage-type mobs slinging crap at you? Or a mix of both melee and casters? Or forget the exact creature combo - what if you just wanted to "direct-attack" while fleeing (i.e. in the opposite direction of where you're attacking)? The button just seems really inflexible, a stop-gap.

And be honest - if you had BOTH right analog "mouse" movement, and this direct-attack button for distant and not-so-distant range, respectively, would you really stop to use the former control instead of spamming the latter?

Aerundel

@Nobuyuki: I remember renting it and playing with my brother for hours on end, crazily addictive.

FlashIV

@QC8472: You say this about Blizzard, the Master of making games work on old hardware.

Of course, they do have Vista tocontend with, true.

rekenner

the last time i checked, Medal of Honor on the Wii did not use friend codes, EA took it upon them selves to create their own service. So what makes you think that the Wii would be a terrible choice if Blizzard could do the same exact thing as EA? Sure, there would be a graphical disadvantage, but there would be a Wii remote advantage which is more like a mouse then using a joystick.

tokyoshi

@TehGwan: more like slim to ask again later if you want an 8 ball reference

Gypse-scum

@TehGwan: Spoken like somebody who didn't read the above-linked article!

Does Not Equal

@Aerundel: Your character would attack in the direction you moved the stick, as I said. If they're ranged attackers, you'd either go back to right-click, or run up and smash 'em directly, depending on your character and personal play style. As for attacking directly while fleeing, it doesn't work. Fleeing means you're moving the stick away from your opponent. You'd right-click for that as well (again, assuming a ranged attack is what you were using).

To answer your final question, yes. If I wanted to keep my character alive and play to its strengths, I'd use whichever method worked best in each instance.

Look, the game's not even out yet. Blizzard might feel the interface needs a change after so many years, and their changes might allow a tweak to make it console-friendly. It's Blizzard; they won't dumb down their PC game so it can be played on console, but they haven't ruled out the possibility of making it work on console, either.

Does Not Equal

Lets say 2010 is the expected release date for Diablo 3. We might not have 360's or ps3's anymore..... or least Sony and Microsoft might be wanting us to not. It's a long time off, and everyone wants some of that sweet motion controller money..... this game could be better on consoles.

Silly people are being silly.

penty85

If done right, I could see it having better controls than the PC version. Plus it's not like it would hurt battle.net's community, which is probably already worse than xbox live anyway.

Dalren

Attention:

Regardless of your opinion on the matter, the chances of Diablo III coming to a console are slim to none. It doesn't matter how well it would or wouldn't work. There seems to be absolutely nothing pointing towards a console release, and nothing in Blizzard's recent history seems to point out the fact that it -could- happen.

This entire argument is pointless.

TehGwan

@Jopan: I know. And I had much fun playing it :)

medik

Diablo 3 comes out on consoles. Astronomical figures follow. Activision influences Blizzard enough to design Diablo 4 for consoles first followed by a possible PC port. Another franchise goes down the crapper. Gaming in general takes a hit. As a PC and console gamer I have seen my favorite PC franchises watered down for consoles. I'm talking the whole experience, not just the controls. Don't tell me this doesn't hurt anyone. How many years did we have to wait for multiplayer to be brought back to GTA?

Shinryoma

@Does Not Equal:

".... and had no plans for a console game at the moment. The decision was said to be motivated simply by PC being the most appropriate platform for the game."

"... However, asked if Blizzard could make a Diablo game for consoles, Pardo said, "I think it's theoretically possible."

The key word there is "theoretically." Theoretically, time travel should also be possible.

Don't read too much in to this. Right now, this is like Sony coming out and saying, "theoretically, we could put HDMI ports on all our phones to let you play high definition PS3 games on the go." Sure, it COULD happen, but there's no solid evidence of it actually GOING to happen.

TehGwan

Christ. You guys are a bunch of haters aren't you? I have friends who simply do not have a gaming PC (IE, pre 2003 computers) and they used to be huge Diablo fans it'd be a great way for them to have access to it as long as Blizzard has enough oversight to do a great console port.

Sure, PC version will be the norm and I'll be getting it, but I see no reason to hate on a console port. Why the hell not?

Shippoyasha

Just give it keyboard and mouse support on the PS3 and you've got a paying customer right here.

Otherwise, I can't promise anything. Sure Diablo 1 and 2 were both fun, but my computer is not built for gaming, and I don't even try to push it into that realm these days.

I guess what I'm saying is "Release it on a console and I'll be a happy camper."

PissedPS3Fan

With all the trading and interaction...I have to have a keyboard. I just do.

Wolfers

@Gypse-scum:

Then how about hypothetically? Hahah

Either way, the point that a console release is -theoretical- stands.

TehGwan

@Gypse-scum: Pfft, you mean a better interactive cutscene?

...Zing!

Aerundel

So then the constant clicking would theoretically become just plain ol' button mashing? I can dig it.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

Clickfest = Good.
Buttonmash = Bad.

There's no HUGE difference in activity between the two, and yet the chasm that separates them is vast!

marmidukestank

@Shinryoma: well because mgs4 will probably be a better game(all of you pc people aren't going to like me for that one)

Gypse-scum

All i have to say is "why?, money?"
For me this is a PC game, and it should stay that way but hey if you want to bring it to the 360 or ps3 or Atari I dont mind xD... I will still play the PC version...

davxx

So it's OK to buy a PS3 for MGS4 but not OK to buy a PC, which does PC things better than your current PC so it's not just a "gaming PC", to play Diablo 3?

Shinryoma

@TehGwan: i'm pretty sure time travel got deemed impossible by some science guy or something.. or made it was deemed possible... i really can't remember

Gypse-scum

@TehGwan: evolution is a theory

Gypse-scum

Just because it's possible, doesn't make it right!

Master Saji

@TehGwan: There are plenty of quotes in the article to support a stronger possibility than you're allowing for. If they weren't at least giving it slight consideration, they would have said a flat "no" already. Sure, it might not happen, but the fact that they're even talking about how it could be done says it's something they haven't yet ruled out.

Does Not Equal

it's blizzard... blizzard... so ...not possible.

infi

Anything "may happen".

Bluetribal

@Gypse-scum:

Then this is a hypothesis, if you want to get technical.

@Does Not Equal:

It says he was asked about it. It's not like he said, out of the blue, "Hey, this is possible. Think about it."

According to the article, someone asked if it could be put on a console, and the guy basically said, "yeah, I guess it's possible. It wouldn't need to be changed a whole lot."

He was responding to a question about whether or not it would be possible to put the game on a console, not about whether or not they are planning to put the game on a console. I think people are reading WAY too much in to this. There is no reason to get hopes up.

TehGwan

first off, this game will run on just about every single pc on earth, this is Blizzard folks. Everyone here now will be able to play this game just fine and look fine for that matter. There's no need for a console version that would need a whole new interface, which is a big aspect of the game, especially inventory management. This is a mouse and keyboard game all the way. put down the sticks and recognize dammit ;)

Secondly, this is a great game to get people into PC Gaming, or revive a gamer that's been away from PC gaming for a while. Blizzard is a PC shop, and that includes Mac's as well, which the Mac version will be on the same disk on day one when you buy it at the store.

Thirdly, for the simple reason of making the best game possible for PC/Mac, this is ultimate reason to keep Diablo on PC. Make the best damn game possible, period. After the fact, at a much later date if Activision want's to farm this IP out to some other developer, then so be it. But that's like waiting for Halo 3 for the PC, forget about that. There won't be a need though, Diablo 3 will sell millions and millions of copies.

Lastly, Blizzard wants 100 percent control over the mulitplayer aspect with Battlenet, Blizzard's online system. They aren't going to give that up to MS or Sony, no friggin way, nor are they going to tie in Live or PSN, that's ridiculous. This, along with all other Blizzard games, will stay on PC/Mac.

As a PC gamer and a console gamer, this is a game best played on PC, much like Madden is best played on console. Simple as that. Not to mention, high end GPU's that are overkill for a game like Diablo 3 are now selling for 199 USD, can't ask for much more than that people....

dozerking

@Whoaness:

It wouldn't be a cross platform game...

Or will it?

Codman24

What I'd prefer over having Diablo III on consoles, is having a diablo that is playable.
Clicking to move? What on earth. I simply can frigging not play any game that requires me to click to move (Well, except an RTS).. but in these old RPGs, or in a god damned ACTION GAME, hell no. I just can't do it, and I really, really, really, really, really hope there's options in D3 where I can play it like an actual action RPG, instead of just a bunch of management and clicking. That's the reason I loathed Diablo 2, and was not able to enjoy it. At all.

otimus

@Aerundel:

Wait a minute, are you complaining about having to actually play the game, instead of having it play it for you?

Is this what Blizzard fans like? Clicking and just having it all do it itself?

otimus

@Jehnn: That's pure speculation with nothing to back it up. Microsoft has said time and time again that they will not allow keyboards and mice to be used in actual gameplay control. Text typing is all you are limited to.

It would be perfectly plausible to have it on an Arcade/Core system anyway, they just wouldn't be able to get updates, which would mean that they would have to be on their own network instead of sharing a userbase (like UT3 + PC) with b.net (which is probably required anyway with Live's rigid structure).

cowondinosaur

Only console I would consider seeing that would be on the Wii where the Wiimote can replace the mouse easily.. I would still prefer to play it on PC thought :P

Anyway, the guy said it's "POSSIBLE".. same way it's possible that Aliens invade the earth, Nintendo decides to never make a Mario game again, etc.. :P

CockroachMan

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance made a top scroller RPG possible, and KOTOR menus would replace the windows.

Seriously, furiously clicking a mouse button is more annoying than furiously pressing a button. And with the new "walk over items" thing, it should be a possibility.

Ashurahori

I @Neer'mo: Hypocrite

Shinra

how much control do activision have over blizzard? all the pre-merger stuff was about how blizzard would still be able to do pretty much what it wanted.

if blizzard say "no" to a console d3, will activision just have to accept that?

shemmy

I would purchase a 360 version over a pc/ps3 version easily

Murderdolls

@Jehnn: The 360 does support a USB keyboard and mouse, problem is that most games aren't designed to support them. I don't know why though.

I could'nt imagine Diablo on console being much more harder to use than on a PC, I didn't use that many keyboard functions on the PC. One for attack, one for my special ability and another for my health potions, All I need is a movement analogue stick and three buttons lol.

If this happened it would be great.

Sniper_Zegai

@Ariakkan:

What are your feelings on Fallout 3?

Dennen

@Domasai: Of course, unless they just allow the PS3's compatibility with Mouse and Keyboard to work in the game. It's possible, so therefore it shouldn't be a big deal.

As for the Wii. No. I have a Wii and I do have to say that I am getting thoroughly sick of Nintendo's lack of will to go HD. I hate when games are ported to the Wii from other platforms, because then - having experienced them in HD up until then - I see how terrible the graphics really are on the Wii... They shouldn't have gone 3D with the Wii and instead gone a mixture of retro with new. Think Paper Mario type games. Platform Exclusives can survive because I have not seen them in HD. But Ports always end up looking horrible.

The same goes for the DS while i'm at it. I wish they would just stop trying to release DS games that are 3D. They look freakin' awful. People kept suggesting Final Fantasy 3 to me. I love RPG's. But I just cannot stand the way they reworked it into 3D. They should have gone with a highly stylized *think artwork used in concept* RPG game that was mostly 2D Based. I would MUCH prefer an RPG that was entirely hand drawn over what they did with this =/

Returning to topic. I don't know if the port will be handed in house or not. I would say that it is. Wasn't Ghost going to be a console game? It's obvious they have the dev kits to develop for it.

As far as Civilization Revolutions... Call me crazy. I don't like that game. I love the series. I just don't like that game.

Dennen

It would be a degradation of the franchise. Diablo III or any historical PC fracnshise should remain in PC. It would not be the same, that simple.

Same way I can´t imagine playing Madden on my PC.

Ariakkan

For the PS360: A Geometry Wars approach might work. Left analog for movement, right analog for direction of attack. Shoulders handle different abilities.

For the Wii: Simple. Point, click. Same as the real thing. Only of course the graphics would be toned down.

All in all, keep it on the PC. We've all got one, and it's not like it's going to have a hard time selling on the thing. Porting it to a console likely wouldn't be handled in-house anyway, so its quality would be highly questionable. Not every game is going to translate as well as what's been done with Civilization: Revolutions.

Domasai

Weren't there big problems with porting the original Diablo to the PlayStation? On the other hand, consoles are much more advanced now than they were in the late '90s, so this could probably work out well.

WillyFourEyes

Blizzard has been notoriously slack with requirements for it's games. If you can't get together a PC to play it, then I have no sympathy, and I couldn't care less if it remained a PC only port.

//PC Gaming Fanboy elitist and proud of it.

Scuba Steve

This game will sell less then Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm. Please, pc games stick to what the pc does best, mouse click and keyboard. I have a good graphic card, but I doubt I'm that hot for Diablo game on console let alone on pc. The answer is no.

ahmeng

I would actually get it if it came to consoles. Could turn out to be a baulders gate: DA type thing which was pretty cool.

DanteIX

I was actually shocked when I heard that they had no plans on coming to the console. For sure I thought they would bring Diablo 3 to x360 and ps3. The game is VERY friendly towards a console use and honestly I would love it to come. I mean, it would almost be stupid NOT to bring it. Just imaginge all the people that don't play PC games and just console, the game would sell and break records for sure. I guess we'll wait and see. I have alot of friends that don't take the time or effort to play PC games, they would for sure pick this up. I would like to see this happen.

macr0planet

@rekenner: I meant the ps1 version probably sold poorly, not the PC one :)

QC8472

I'd prefer Blizzard to make a better game on one platform rather than an inferior game on multiple platforms.

two cans tied together and thrown down the street to wake up the surrounding neighbors with a loud annoying noise

The Dark Alliance games worked fine on consoles. Diablo 1 wasn't bad on the PS. The genre can certainly work, and I trust Blizz more than most others to get the controls really slick.

Mister Adequate

@underthechestnuttree: No, you're thinking of Starfox.

*runs*

Nereos

@foofed: Ahah, good one.

Valshar

wasnt starcraft released for the 64 at some point as well?

underthechestnuttree

I really dug Diablo 1 for the PSX. I'm sure Diablo will always be best on pc (if for no reason other than stuff like maphack), but it would be nice to be able to play D3 without having to buy a new computer... curse my AGP and bad RAM.

Anemone

I'll buy it either way, but if given the choice I'd rather play it on a console with a controller. I ALWAYS thought Diablo 2 would work better mapped to a controller so I could play it like Gauntlet. These days the Baldur's Gate series is on consoles and it works great with a controller imo.

Even if the series stays pc exclusive I'd like an option to map the commands to a usb controller, but that's probably the least likely of all scenarios.

pico77

@Scuba Steve: Yes, THIS makes sense. I too would be proud of missing out on the Zelda games, the Mario series, the Sonics, ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War, the Final Fantasies, the Suikodens, Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Chrono Trigger/Cross, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, the Tekkens, the Soul Calibers, the Street Fighters, SSB, Mario Kart, the Pokemons, Animal Crossing, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Crazy Taxi, Shenmue, GTA, SSX, Halo, Star Ocean, Dead Rising - need I continue?

Mister Adequate

The question is ... is there enough room on the 360 disc to fit all the loot sets?

:-p

I dont see it happening, unless this is Blizzards attempt to get Sony or MSFT to toss them money hats.

EnigmaNemesis

@EnigmaNemesis: True, I suppose, but the part where he was proud of being elitist suggested he wouldn't touch a console with a twenty foot pole =P

Mister Adequate

@otimus:

"I really don't get how people could find clicking to move, and clicking to attack.. and lots and lots of simply clicking to do most every god damned thing exciting.

That's a serious damper on anything that's supposedly an "action" RPG... and seriously archaic form of control for a game of that type.

Oh well! That's blizzard fans for you! Adverse to change, different things scare them, and they're all using archaic technology!"

Never played WoW. I actually haven't played any Warcraft since the first game. I never got into Starcraft. I didn't much like Diablo 1 (online play was a mess with cheating).

Diablo 2, though. For all the "just clicking" that the game is, is a classic. I don't know that they'll capture that with Diablo 3. You never can tell how a loot game will turn out until you play it. Diablo 2, though, made monotonous clicking an AWESOME experience that I could play for hours on end day after day.

GorbyGipper

I'd love a decent console port. I'd much rather play on Live with my friends than have to convince everyone to get it for PC, set-up chat, etc.

Yeah, it would be weird controlling the game with an analog stick or control pad. It worked okayish in the PSOne version of Diablo, I guess...

GorbyGipper

I really don't get how people could find clicking to move, and clicking to attack.. and lots and lots of simply clicking to do most every god damned thing exciting.

That's a serious damper on anything that's supposedly an "action" RPG... and seriously archaic form of control for a game of that type.

Oh well! That's blizzard fans for you! Adverse to change, different things scare them, and they're all using archaic technology!

otimus

This lush does realize, that music was once blamed for violent tendencies ... so why make a comment to another form of entertainment?

EnigmaNemesis

@darkmyst932: Because console versions usually dumb down the game for both parties. For reference see any game released on both consoles and computers.

Jindujun

I think I can hear microsoft loading their cash catapault.

fadecy

@Ariakkan:

1) That's silly logic

2) Most every madden has been on PC since the beginning.

otimus

@Mister Adequate:

To be fair, he never said he doesn't play console games, just that a calculator can run most of Blizzards.

:-p

EnigmaNemesis

why does it matter for pc gamers if it also comes out on consoles? share the game.

darkmyst932

Mmmm... I can't imagine, personally, picking the console version over the PC version. Unless they somehow change the combat, because if they simply map the left mouse button to one button on the pad, you've got yourself an annoyingly simple and boring button masher on consoles. What works great on the PC doesn't work great on consoles sometimes.

Also, by the time it comes out, I'll have upgraded my rig absurdly (Nehalem *smile*) so I'll want to max this beast out.

Then again, the larger screen and surround sound hooked to my PS3 are important, too...I'll have to wait and see if they make a port at all.

Candlejack

No the console playing peasants cant have Diablo 3 for starters they would need to give a mouse and keyboard away with the game. Thats my main problem with the consoles not being able to use a mouse and keyboard at least Sony can see that and FPS need it and allow it and I find it ironic MS couldn't do the same.

Centy

@Coquiton:

True Story!

EnigmaNemesis

I really, really, really don't see the problem here. This shouldn't pose any kind of concern to the people who want to play it on PC. Just go play it on PC. The people who neither have the time or money to buy/build a computer, and those who wouldn't really be good at it on a computer could buy it on a console.

I don't know much about this game or anything like that, since I've never PC games since any computer I've had was always a piece of schmidt, but I'm sure that if Blizzard chose to, they would be competent enough to make a decent control scheme.

And don't say "Oh, that's so easy-mode sounding." What the french toast does that even mean? I didn't know we all had to play games on extreme hardcore leet mode. Sorry if everyone doesn't have that kind of time or skill, but still want to try something new.

You know, I thought gamers could be cool, because maybe, just maybe it would be nice to let some more people in on the fun, but I guess not.

I may like just peanut butter on my sandwich and hate jelly, but just because some people have the choice of jelly doesn't mean it's defiling anything.

ChiltonGaines

What is so bad about PC gamers wanting an exclusive?

I mean, almost all console games are console exclusives. And yet, PCs get this one, and all of a sudden people are elitists and fanboys if they want the game to stay on PCs.

PCs get their exclusives, and consoles get their exclusives. Just deal with it, people!

Coquiton

@smuckersisgood:

Very true ... considering they merged with Activision now ... who is all up in the console scene, signs would point to yes for being on consoles.

And a merger with the leading console publisher now, would make the transitions much smoother ... and I think they knew this.

EnigmaNemesis

@smuckersisgood:

Holy shit ... thanks ... that is my stupid of the day!

ROFL!

/slapself

EnigmaNemesis

@GorbyGipper:

/agree

Feelings are shared on everything you said.

My only concern is no Bill Roper and team. When he left we get 1.10+ and it killed Diablo 2 for a ton of people.

WoW loot styles are more monotonous as well.

So I dunno if it will recapture the same magic like Diablo 2 did, since the mastermind is gone.

EnigmaNemesis

Given Blizzard's track record, i wouldnt be surprised if we're on the next round of consoles by the time this game is released (not that its a bad thing, i'd rather have a highly polished game than one that ships broken). My point is that this may be a moot discussion

smuckersisgood

@EnigmaNemesis: Wrong post friend

smuckersisgood

@Phazon: Oblivion: shivering isles needs an hdd, Just sayin

smuckersisgood

It's 'theorectically possible' that I'll end up in a threesome with Jenna Jameson and Carmen Elektra, but that doesn't make it worth discussing.

Lemming

@WatchAndWarrant:

I can see a Wii port.

I cant!

*tries to see it again*

Nope, cant, I got nothin'.

EnigmaNemesis

@Coquiton: Im not a fan of exclusives, console, pc or otherwise. But i understand how you feel, and that fine you know. We're all entitled to our own opinions. But what pisses people off are posts like this Centy Just because i choose to play something on a console doesn't make me a retard. I dont go: "fuck those dumbasses with a pc. who the fuck wants to play super mario sunshine with a mouse. Those r-tards must be smokin rope if they think its even possible to bring that shit to pc." Im not saying you're like that, but thats the reason some of us "console-tards" feel that some pc gamers have an elitist attitude towards gaming.

smuckersisgood

I can see a Wii port.

Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 on the Wii has online play without friend codes. It uses something called "EA Nation". If EA was allowed to do that, then I would think Nintendo would let them integrate Diablo with battle.net.

I'm not so sure MS would let Blizzard bypass Live and use battle.net.

Plus, judging from the clips shown so far, Diablo III doesn't seem like a super graphically intensive game.

But I'll be happy if with any console. I really, really, really don't want to spend the money to build a game-worthy PC again.

WatchAndWarrant

@Mister Adequate: I'm not sure I understand your post. I do indeed own all 3 next gen consoles, a Dreamcast, a Saturn, and can emulate anything older than that. I enjoy the exclusives that all the systems present, and find that multiports generally aren't as good as the focused, exclusive version.

Do I wish there was a ICO or Chrono Trigger for the PC? Not really.

Blizzard has a good handle on Piracy, you have to run a private server to get the most out of the mulitplayer aspects of their games, and most people aren't willing to do that.

Scuba Steve

I think it would work well on a console. It just wouldn't be the 'click to move' nonsense the PC version uses.

Instead it would control more like Dark Alliance or Galaxy wars. ps3 version would retain the mouse/keyboard support though.

The added 1080p/720p widescreen support, 5.1/PCM surround sound, rumble, etc, could actually make for a better game in some ways than the PC version.

mrantimatter

@Coquiton:

You've got a point. It's better when people have those (good points) instead of being trolls, which I might have slightly come off as in my previous post.

@Centy: Like you. Don't be a troll. Please?

ChiltonGaines

@Centy: lol PC uber geek here, talking like hes king shit (what PC fanboy doesnt?) talking like he owns the damn publishing rights to the game. "Nope sorry, not coming to consoles"

Scott3D

lol I love how they say theoretically like it would be some epic task. Its a top down adventure game much in the vain of Baulders Gate and Champions of Norrath its more or less a porting job, any current gen console can handle this game im sure.

Scott3D

@Domasai:

The ballgame is and will be changed, since the Activision merger. They now have the resources for console development. Especially with the signs pointing to more money, since the PC is riddled with piracy, that cut huge into profits.

And we all know Blizzard likes money.

Mark my words. Every merger we have ever seen in any industry, never resulted in two separate entities operating ... money talks, bullshit walks.

EnigmaNemesis

Given the Diablo II never made it to consoles, I wouldn't hold my breath. But if D3 is out for a while and Blizzard isn't getting the sales numbers it would like, I could see a port to consoles.

Strangelove

If and I do mean IF it was to come out on Consoles, I could only see it going as far as the PS3. We already know why it couldn't possibly go on the Wii so I won't get into that.

Let's face it, the 360 has never been kind with end-user peripherals and the HDD ain't exactly cheap. The chatpad would work but unless your going to use the analog stick as a mouse, I can't see that going over too well.

The PS3 would realistically speaking be the only way to go. Relatively cheap HDD's, Support for pretty much any USB Keyboard / Mouse combo you throw at it. From a business standpoint to cut down on production cost because I know damn good and well how much extra it would cost to stick a "licensed peripheral" keyboard and a mouse in a box for persons to use (which in turn would drive up the cost of the product - Remember Final Fantasy XI on the PS2?), I'd personally go with a PS3 release coinsiding with a PC release.

Hell to save all problems, I'd just go with a PC release and be done with it. It's worked for Blizzard so far for the past.... 15 years? Why change whats working?

Papa Midnight

Dennen: "Of course, unless they just allow the PS3's compatibility with Mouse and Keyboard to work in the game. It's possible, so therefore it shouldn't be a big deal."

Why bother though? That's my point. The PS3 doesn't run like your average PC, at least not nearly as similar as the 360 does. I personally think Diablo 3 would sell like crap on the PS3, since console gamers aren't always PC ones. My point wasn't that it was impossible, just that they should direct it towards the audience most geared for it - which are PC gamers.

"As for the Wii. No. I have a Wii and I do have to say that I am getting thoroughly sick of Nintendo's lack of will to go HD."

Yes, it was lack of will that caused them to make that decision, not the insane rise of development costs and time that made them think, "Hey, maybe we should hang back a bit and not rush headlong into an unsustainable business plan." Besides, they couldn't have given the Wii a $250 price point if they had.

"I hate when games are ported to the Wii from other platforms, because then - having experienced them in HD up until then - I see how terrible the graphics really are on the Wii..."

The only reason they look like crap on the Wii is that devs are lazy and are using PS2 assets for the thing when they should be downporting from the PS360 ones. The Wii isn't as graphically weak as these early games make it out to be.

"Returning to topic. I don't know if the port will be handed in house or not. I would say that it is."

First of all, I doubt there will be a console port of Diablo 3. Nobody tells Blizzard what to do, not if they want to keep the talent there.

Secondly, there is no way Blizzard would do a port for consoles internally. It would be a waste of their talent and resources, as they could be directing their focus to their other properties and hopefully some new ones. If they want to work on consoles, they should develop a new IP specifically built from the ground-up to exist on them.

"Wasn't Ghost going to be a console game? It's obvious they have the dev kits to develop for it."

And how did that turn out?

Domasai

@EnigmaNemesis:

Acti has a say in this now.

You're telling me you can't see a Wii port, let alone 'Diablo III: On Tour' for the DS and 'Diablo III: Morebadguys/Aerosmith' as an expansion pack? You can waggle a wii-mote about as furiously as you can click a mouse. You just end up with a busted wrist instead of an index finger this time around.

Maybe Im just bitter about having an exploded computer right now.

Komrade_Kayce

@Drake Lake: Formed from Arsenic and Old Lace: So was Starcraft, so don't get too hot, or cold.

artofwar420

i don't understand why pc gamers would care if it came to consoles? if you don't like it, don't buy it or play it?

obelisk